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Ep 178: They Love Your Work. So Why Aren't They Hiring You?
2026/10/19
If you want to improve your interior design sales process, you need to understand what your prospective clients are thinking before they decide to hire you. Because loving your work and being ready to sign a contract are two very different things.
I talk to designers all the time who assume a client’s hesitation means their fee is too high, their portfolio isn’t strong enough, or something went wrong in the consultation. But what if there’s a whole lot more happening behind the scenes? I want you to look at your sales conversations from the other side of the table and get curious before you start making assumptions.
I recently wrapped up a launch for my Luxury Client Academy, and the experience reminded me of how much we can learn by paying attention to our own buying decisions. In this episode, I’m sharing how you can apply those lessons to your interior design business.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
How to communicate what matters to prospective clients instead of simply listing your services, credentials, and experience.Why an enthusiastic inquiry doesn’t necessarily mean someone is ready to hire you, and the questions that can help you understand where they are in their decision-making process.How to uncover what’s behind a client’s hesitation before assuming the problem is your fee, your portfolio, or your process.Why questions about design fees and project costs are often reasonable requests for clarity, not automatic objections to your services.How to use questions and concerns from past clients to make your sales process easier to understand for the next person.Why silence, delayed responses, and a lack of engagement aren’t a pass-fail test of your talent or your business.Remember, your job isn’t to drag everyone across the finish line. It’s to communicate clearly, listen, follow up appropriately, and help the right people feel confident about making a decision. Sometimes that decision is yes, sometimes it’s no, and sometimes it’s just not right now.
Related Resources
If you’re ready to look more closely at how prospective clients make decisions, these resources are a great next step.
When They Love You But Don't Book: https://pamela-durkin.com/marketing-by-design/when-they-love-you-but-dont-book/
The Art & Science of Selling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F26Q_TfsqwQ
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 177: What I’d Want to Know Before Joining The Luxury Client Academy
2026/10/05
Before joining a coaching program, you need to know whether it will actually help you make better decisions in your interior design business—not just give you another pile of information.
If you’re considering the Luxury Client Academy, you probably have questions. Is this really different from another course? What if you already have a coach? Can you afford the investment? Where will you find the time? And maybe the bigger question underneath all of those: “Am I actually ready for this?”
I want to answer those questions honestly, because joining a nine-month coaching program is a real commitment. I’m not interested in convincing you that you need more information. I want you to think about whether you need help applying what you already know to the actual proposals, clients, pricing decisions, projects, and problems sitting in front of you.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Why collecting more information can become its own form of procrastination—and why personalized support can help you turn information into decisions.What to consider if you already have a business coach, including whether that person understands the specific ecosystem of an interior design business.How to look beyond the cost of coaching and consider what undercharging, poor-fit projects, and missed purchasing opportunities may already be costing your business.Why being busy doesn’t necessarily mean you need more capacity, and how 20 smaller projects can create a very different business than one full-scope project.How to recognize whether “I’m not ready yet” is really about experience, clients, pricing, or the question underneath it all: “Do I belong in this room?”Why qualification matters and how asking better questions earlier can help you stop taking projects you already suspect are a bad fit.What actually changes when you have stronger processes, clearer decisions, and more confidence leading your business.
The Luxury Client Academy isn’t about becoming someone else’s version of a successful designer. We start where you are and work on what your business actually needs right now.
Related Resources
If you’re still wondering whether coaching is the right kind of support for you, this conversation is a natural next step.
Ep 121: Worried? Will the LCA work for you?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7v2vIAJrwI
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 176: 5 Business Mistakes I’d Fix Before Chasing More Clients
2026/09/28
Before chasing more clients, I want you to look at what’s already happening inside your interior design business. Because adding more work to a shaky foundation can make the problem worse.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
How taking whatever shows up can leave you building a business around work you never wanted in the first place.Why a full calendar does not automatically mean a profitable project mix, and how too many small projects can block better opportunities.The difference between a fee being wrong and a fee simply feeling uncomfortable, and why you need to price the project instead of the fear of the price.Why your designs can be custom while your business needs a repeatable process for pricing, communication, purchasing, scope, and delivery.How stopping networking, follow-up, and visibility when you get busy creates the feast-or-famine boomerang later.The five questions I want you asking before deciding that more clients are the answer.
The goal is not to stay busy. It’s to have enough of the right opportunities that you can choose the projects that fit, hold the fees that make sense, and protect the process that allows you to do your best work.
Related Resources
If you’re wondering whether you actually need more clients, or need to fix what’s happening underneath the inquiries, this is a natural next listen.
Ep 172: Do you really need more clients? [Try this first]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM1VzNEEJOw
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 175: She 5X’d Her Fee: $17K → $96K. What Changed First?
2026/09/21
If you’re an interior designer who keeps hitting the same comfortable design fee, this episode is for you. I’m sharing Tina’s story of going from a $17,000 design fee ceiling to a $96,000 fee and the shift was not that she suddenly became five times better at design.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Why your historical design fee may not be relevant to the opportunity sitting in front of you.What needs to be underneath a higher design fee, including time, talent, expertise, responsibility, value, and the financial impact on your business.Why confidently communicating your value matters when a client starts asking hard questions about your fee.How your own pricing mindset can become the biggest thing standing between you and a bigger opportunity.Why a bigger fee does not automatically make a project a better fit and the questions I want you asking before you say yes.How one breakthrough fee can change your reference point and expand what you believe is possible for your interior design business.
Related Resources
If you’re working through your own fee ceiling, these are natural next steps for thinking differently about pricing and the opportunities you choose.
Your Highest Design Fee Starts Before the Proposal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSfLsKWptE
Overcoming Fear Increasing Rates Designers: https://pamela-durkin.com/marketing-by-design/overcoming-fear-increasing-rates-designers/
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 174: The Design Fee Dilemma
2026/09/14
If your interior design fees go down when you really want a project and shoot up when you’re hoping a client says no, the fee may not be the real problem.
I see designers shaving down fees because the project would look great in their portfolio or because they’re afraid the client will walk. Then, there’s the “make it worth my while” fee, hoping the project will disappear.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why lowering your design fee to win a project can perpetuate the false belief that you simply need more clients.
• How a suspiciously high fee can be an avoidance strategy.
• Why a bigger fees don't magically turn a bad-fit project into a good one.
• How to separate project fit from interior design fee
• The one question I want you to ask before you hit send.
Related Resources
If this episode hit a nerve, these are the natural next step for getting clearer about pricing and saying no without asking the fee to do the dirty work.
Blog: Pricing Process Power of No: https://pamela-durkin.com/marketing-by-design/pricing-process-power-of-no/
Podcast Ep 143: Pricing, Process & the Power of No: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00lGOKfpKcs
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 173: Are Smaller Projects Just Keeping You SMALL?
2026/09/07
If your small interior design projects are supposed to lead to bigger work, the question is simple: are they actually doing it?
A lot of interior designers keep smaller services on the menu because they seem like an easier yes. A paint consultation, a decorating-only service, or a one-room package can feel like a smart way to get a client in the door, build trust, and eventually move into a larger project.
But here’s the rub: if that next step is not actually happening, you may not have a strategy. You may just have more small projects
.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
How to look at the actual data and see how many small interior design projects have really turned into larger jobs.Why a smaller service needs a clear purpose instead of simply sitting on your website and hoping someone finds it.The question I want you to ask yourselfWhy smaller projects can take nearly the same communication, scheduling, attention, and mental bandwidth as larger ones.How to tell whether your small offer is a real stepping stone to bigger work or simply a safer-feeling way to avoid selling the larger project.Why your time, marketing, and attention should support the kind of work you actually want more of.
I’m not telling you to eliminate every smaller service. I like having one available when business is slow, you need a fill-in, or the right client needs a smaller starting point. But you need to know what that service is there to do.
Related Resources
Flexibility in Service Offerings Designers: https://pamela-durkin.com/marketing-by-design/flexibility-in-service-offerings-designers/
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 172: Do you really need more clients? [Try this first]
2026/08/31
FREE WORKSHOP 9/30: From Scrambling for Clients to In Demand. Grab your seat >> HERE
https://luxuryclientacademy.com/free-workshop
If you want better clients for your interior design business, taking every project that lands in front of you may be the very thing keeping you stuck. In this episode, I’m challenging the automatic “I need more clients” response and asking you to look at whether you actually need more work, or better opportunities.
This is for interior designers who are busy, tired, and still wondering why the calendar isn’t translating into enough profit. When opportunities feel rare, it’s easy to talk yourself into projects that are too small, poorly matched, underpriced, or loaded with red flags. But when you have a steady rhythm of inquiries, you get something most designers don’t think enough about: choice.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why “more clients” can simply create more of the same problems
• How to tell whether small projects are actually leading to larger, better-fit work
• Why inconsistent inquiries make you more likely to chase, discount, or ignore warning signs
• How a steadier flow of opportunities can change the way you price and evaluate projects
• Why project fit, profitability, and creative satisfaction matter more than filling every open spot
• The question to ask before saying yes just because an opportunity is in front of you
Related Resources
If this episode hit a nerve, these two resources will help you keep thinking about fit instead of sheer volume.
More Referrals Aren’t the Answer If They’re Not a Good Fit: https://pamela-durkin.com/marketing-by-design/more-referrals-arent-the-answer-if-theyre-not-a-good-fit/
Ep 109: How to sign more GREEN FLAG clients!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwzSlOYYJ4Y
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 171: A Client Brought AI Images to the Interview. Now What?
2026/08/24
A potential client walks into your consultation with AI-generated images of exactly what they think they want. Do you get defensive? Feel like you need to prove your value? Start explaining all the reasons AI can’t replace a designer? In this episode, I’m talking about why that reaction is probably getting in your way, and why the bigger issue has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with how well you qualify your clients.
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 170: Does Your Interior Design Business Have Hot Potato Syndrome?
2026/08/17
Have you ever noticed how quickly you start backpedaling when a conversation gets even slightly uncomfortable? In this episode, I’m talking about “hot potato syndrome” ,that reflex to soften the ask, explain the fee, loosen the boundary, or offer another option before anyone has actually said there’s a problem. Sometimes the rejection hasn’t even happened; you’ve simply sensed the possibility of it and started reacting.
We’ll look at how this shows up around money, boundaries, referral relationships, and asking for what you really want. Because growing into the business you want isn’t just about better strategy. It’s also about becoming the designer who can state the fee, hold the boundary, make the ask, and stay there long enough to let the other person respond.
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 169: 4 Business Lessons I Learned From a Puppy
2026/08/10
Apparently, all I needed to sharpen a few business lessons was a puppy who had never seen grass, hated his harness, and needed to be taken outside approximately 700 times a day. In this episode, I’m sharing four surprisingly useful reminders our new puppy gave me about business.
If you’ve been feeling buried under everything you still need to fix, learn, or figure out, this is your reminder that growth rarely happens all at once. Sometimes the smartest move is to stop looking ten steps ahead.
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 168: The Best Project I Never Took
2026/08/04
On paper, it looked like the perfect project.
An 8,000-square-foot home, a major renovation and all new furnishings. Exactly the kind of opportunity most interior designers dream about. But I walked away.
In this episode, I'm sharing the story behind one of the most important business decisions I ever made and why saying "no" had nothing to do with the budget and everything to do with protecting my process.
If you've ever been tempted to bend your pricing, skip steps, or change the way you work because you're afraid to lose the project, this conversation is for you.
You'll learn why the projects you decline can shape your reputation just as much as the ones you accept, and why becoming a sought-after designer starts with trusting the way you do your best work.
In this episode, we discuss:Why not every dream project is the right projectThe red flags I recognized before saying yesWhy your process is one of your greatest business assetsThe mistake so many designers make when they're afraid to lose an opportunityHow protecting your process builds trust, confidence, and a stronger reputationThe mindset shift that helped me stop chasing projects and start choosing them intentionally
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 167: Why Inspiration Isn’t Enough: The Business Conversations Designers Need
2026/07/27
In this episode, I’m joined by Jen Atkinson, founder of NEDCON, to talk about why designers need more than inspiration to build strong, sustainable businesses. We discuss the conversations our industry often avoids: money, profitability, sales, leadership, and implementation, and why Jen created a more intimate conference experience centered on practical education and honest business growth. I’m also sharing why I said yes to speaking at NEDCON and what I hope designers take away from my session, Money Lessons I Wish I Knew Sooner.
To get all the info and tickets to NEDCON, visit www.nedconference.com
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 166: Is Your Website Sending the Right Signals to Luxury Clients?
2026/07/20
Your website may be beautiful, but is it actually making affluent clients feel confident enough to take the next step? In this episode, I’m joined by Robyn White of RDW Design Studio to talk about what luxury clients are really looking for when they land on an interior designer’s website and why trust, clarity and a sense of safety matter more than words like luxury, bespoke or elevated.
We also discuss how to position your portfolio for the work you want next, create a dedicated page for referral partners, and make your inquiry page feel like the beginning of a personalized client experience, not just another contact form. This episode will help you look at your website with fresh eyes and identify the signals that may be building confidence or quietly creating doubt.
Robyn is offering to provide those interested with a free Luxury Client Website Appraisal! You can sign up here: https://rdwdesignstudio.com/luxury-client-website-appraisal/
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 165: Did the Nonsense Sneak Back In? The Mid-Year Reset for Designers
2026/07/13
At the beginning of the year, we talked about doing things differently, creating space, getting lighter, and deciding what no longer deserves access to you. But halfway through the year, it is easy for the old ways to sneak back in. In this episode, I’m talking about the mid-year reset so many designers need, especially when you are tired from being “on” for clients, contractors, vendors, family, and the business itself. This is not about creating a massive new plan but taking a breath, looking honestly at what is working, what needs to be refined, and what needs to be removed before you carry it into the second half of the year.
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
Ep 164: More Referrals Aren't the Answer if They're Not a Good Fit
2026/06/22
In this episode, Pam closes out the V.I.P. Method series by explaining why more referrals are not always the answer if they are the wrong fit. She shares how designers can have referrals coming in and still feel frustrated when those opportunities are too small, too vague, too late, or not aligned with the level of work and fees they want. Pam explains why referral quality matters more than referral quantity, how past clients and industry partners may need clearer language about what kind of work to send your way, and why better-directed referrals can lead to stronger opportunity conversations, better proposals, and higher design fees. This episode leads into Pam’s free live workshop, The V.I.P. Path to Your Highest Design Fee, happening June 24th at 12 PM Eastern.
If you’re tired of chasing leads, talking people into your value, or saying yes to projects that make you question your life choices, Luxury Client Academy may be your next step.
It’s my private 1:1 coaching program for interior designers ready for better projects, higher fees, and less nonsense.
Inquire about coaching here>> https://pamela-durkin.com/contact-us/
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