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In Episode 87 of Lifting, Running, and Out Here Living, Kelly shares updates from race season, including her most recent mile race, and previews upcoming races. She also recaps an adults-only all-inclusive trip to Mexico with Ty and a friend (the reason why this episode is a week late). JK discusses a screenless-meals weekend challenge with clients and his “one in, one out” rule for apps/subscriptions to reduce distraction. They debate the HYROX Beijing incident where a competitor defecated, continued racing, and won, questioning hygiene and rule gaps. They close by noting September as a “new January” for fitness goal-setting. 00:00 Welcome And Agenda 01:18 Kelly Mile Race Recap 03:29 Upcoming Races Schedule 04:49 Mexico Trip Highlights 15:09 Introverts And Social Success 19:31 Screenless Meals Challenge 23:51 One In One Out Rule 28:01 Hyrox Poop Incident 41:45 September Is New January 46:25 Wrap Up and Where to Find Us Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

Kelly and JK share birthday and training updates, including Kelly’s track workout, new home-gym equipment, and a creatine formula change, plus JK’s TrainHeroic program soft launch. They discuss an Edmonton Marathon course that was measured too long and what that means for Boston Marathon qualifying. They also cover HYROX’s updated 2026–27 media policy restricting professional filming and wearables, and the broader influencer-related controversy and safety concerns. 00:00 Welcome and Episode Preview 00:54 Birthday Track Workout 03:55 New Glute Ham Glider 05:51 Creatine Formula Change 16:02 JK Birthday and Aging 19:03 Training Program Soft Launch 21:42 Edmonton Marathon Course Mixup 26:14 Official Times vs Watch Times 26:41 Boston Qualifying Reality Check 32:45 Why Hyrox Bans Pro Media 35:05 Influencers vs Race Logistics 45:53 Meta Glasses and Privacy Debate 50:36 Running Influencer Bans 53:22 Gatekeeping and Growing Sports 56:27 Final Wrap and Signoff Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In episode 85 of Lifting, Running, and Living, Kelly and JK share updates, including Kelly’s 15-day GoWOD mobility streak and installing AC, and JK’s busy-work schedule disrupting meals, his body recomp progress, and a trip to Washington University in St. Louis for a groundbreaking of McLeod House. They discuss a new study comparing treadmill running at 1% incline versus outdoor track running in 12 competitive young male runners and discuss if how this study might be useful, if at all. They close with a conversation about social-media “flexing,” reacting to a Threads post claiming superiority and discussing pride versus talking down to others. 01:19 Kelly GoWOD Streak 08:42 Home AC Upgrade 10:17 Storms And Work Meal Chaos 16:10 Family Trip WashU Groundbreaking 19:01 Birthday Plans And Baseball Talk 22:04 Outdoor vs Treadmill Running 41:54 One Percent Rule Myth 47:33 Treadmill Transferability 50:54 Social Media Flexing 59:16 Celebrate Wins Outro Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In Episode 84 of Lifting, Running, and Living, Kelly recaps her first one-mile race of the season and discusses trying the GoWod mobility app. JK shares month-one results of a yearlong body recomp. Then, they debate a Threads post about men losing weight easily and whether JK’s comment was misplaced, then briefly cover Garmin’s new Cirqa screenless smart band as a Whoop-like device with a $200 one-time cost. Enjoy! 00:58 Episode Agenda Preview 01:51 Kellys Mile Race Recap 10:06 GoWod Mobility App Tryout 18:42 JK Body Recomp Month One 31:00 Threads Post Sparks Debate 46:45 Garmin Cirqa Smart Band Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

Kelly and JK share updates and discuss running and gym trends. Kelly sets a summer/fall race schedule with two road mile races and three 5Ks. They discuss Garmin’s acquisition of TrainingPeaks/TrainHeroic, including UI preferences, data/privacy considerations, and potential future integration or AI-driven analytics across platforms. Kelly recaps Josh Kerr’s London Diamond League performance breaking the men’s mile world record. JK observes more brick-and-mortar gyms closing post-COVID due to costs, competition from studios and low-cost chains, and shifting membership behavior. 00:00 Welcome and Episode Intro 01:38 Kelly's Race Schedule 07:42 Garmin Acquires TrainingPeaks 18:47 JK's Training Update 24:04 Brick Phone Check In 29:26 Josh Kerr’s World Record Attempt 42:13 Local Gyms Closing Watch the 1 mile race: https://youtu.be/eYi2f4ONEDg?is=QNKDjsgTlrr-M1K0 Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In Episode 82 of Lifting, Running, and Living, it’s an update episode! Kelly recaps the July 5 Vail Hill Climb weekend and her recent binge reads. JK shares his training split shift and recent trends regarding creatine on social media. He also addresses concerns around the death of college football player Nolan Wells and cultural differences regarding friends leaving someone behind. 00:00 Show kickoff updates 00:28 Vail hill climb recap 12:31 JK’s training update 28:45 Fourth Wing books 41:43 Creatine Claims Debunked 48:07 Nolan Wells Perspective 01:01:00 Wrap Up and Where to Find Us Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In episode 81 of Lifting, Running, and Living, Kelly shares “Brick” updates while traveling to Chicago and attending a Rockies game. JK recaps a trip to Omaha for the College World Series and gives an update on his no-complaint challenge. They then discuss how to prioritize lifting, cardio, mobility, and steps when there isn’t enough time for everything, share their current routines, and talk about guilt and low motivation versus relying on habits and responsibility. 00:00 Welcome and Updates 00:55 Brick Basics Refresher 03:21 Brick Travel Lessons 15:24 JK Omaha Trip Recap 25:02 No Complaint Challenge Check In 27:46 Too Much Fitness To Fit 31:01 Kelly Weekly Routine Breakdown 33:41 JK Current Training Split 37:20 Why This Routine Works 46:43 Exercise Guilt and Gaps 50:28 When Fitness Shows Up 54:10 Seasonal Priorities Mindset 59:20 Motivation Versus Habits 01:03:55 Wrap Up and Outro Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In episode 80, JK describes starting a 30-day no-complaining challenge after noticing how easy it is to “cosign” others’ complaints, and he’s traveling to Omaha for a 14U baseball tournament and a College World Series game, while Kelly is traveling to Chicago, increasing running volume, lifting twice, and monitoring a heel issue that’s improving. They then talk about “health maxing,” reacting to a resurfaced Diary of a CEO clip where Steven Bartlett said three glasses of wine led to worse sleep, eating, gym performance, and podcasting for days, debating wearables, optimization culture, and checking in with yourself before device metrics. 00:00 Cold Open and Intro 00:33 Today’s Topics Preview 01:26 Kelly’s Chicago Update 05:06 JK’s No Complaining Challenge 13:50 Omaha Travel Baseball Plans 16:10 Courtesy Plates Gym Etiquette 21:25 Health Maxing and Viral Clip 25:03 Critiques of Optimization Culture 28:34 Recovery Time Skepticism 30:10 Bad Optimization Example 34:13 Sobriety vs Fun Debate 39:18 Wellness Surveillance Culture 42:46 Wearables Help or Harm 44:49 Metrics Anxiety in Training 49:55 HRV and Zone Two Hype 52:09 Actionable Takeaways 55:30 Wrap Up and Plug Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

Kelly and JK start with both sharing updates on using Brick, a physical device that blocks apps/websites until you tap the phone to it. JK also announces Help Me Understand will relaunch in July back to broader topics while he starts a new fitness-focused podcast, Make Fitness Make Sense. They then discuss the Enhanced Games and debate whether coaches/influencers should disclose use of PEDs, HRT, fat burners, peptides, or GLP-1s, referencing a GLP-1 disclosure controversy and advising people to look for long-form content to vet consistency and context. 00:20 Episode 79 Topic Tease 01:11 Kelly Brick Explained 07:21 JK Brick Review 15:05 Podcast Relaunch Plans 19:19 Enhanced Games Overview 25:53 Enhanced Games Reactions 33:39 Can Drugs Break Records 36:11 Optimization Manosphere Angle 37:14 Disclosure Rules For Influencers 45:53 Coaches PEDs And Trust 47:10 GLP-1 Controversy Case Study 50:23 How To Vet Fitness Claims 52:08 Wrap Up And Contact Info Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

Kelly and JK open with quick life and training updates, including a recent track session that turned into a hard mile effort and early impressions of using the Brick device to curb phone and social-media habits. From there, they introduce a broader conversation about what it means to be in a “good place” with fitness and discuss how different environments and platforms can shape self-perception. They close with a few practical ideas for keeping comparison in check and building a clearer personal definition of progress. Timestamps: 01:45 Chicago Trips and Heel Rehab 03:03 Birthday Mile Time Trial 11:37 JK Update The Brick Device 24:14 Main Topic What Is Fit Enough 26:07 When Fitness Feels Enough 26:34 Defining a Good Place 34:55 Fitness for Real Life 37:41 Strava Comparison Spiral 40:23 Exposure Changes Standards 48:13 Practical Tips and Wrap Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In episode 77, Kelly recaps a short Chicago work trip, says she’s pausing Runna for at least a month due to slow-healing heel/Achilles pain, and shares that keeping her phone “bricked” during travel felt helpful. JK updates on a week in Alabama, including a stop at Buc-ee’s, training at well-equipped Armor Gym, and accidentally switching to a lower/upper split. The main topic is sprinter Abby Steiner’s April 2026 lawsuit against Puma and Mercedes, alleging carbon plate and Nitrofoam footwear altered her biomechanics, led to repeated foot injuries and surgeries, and may have ended her career, prompting discussion of super shoes, injury risk, and what evidence could surface via discovery or settlement. 01:13 Chicago Trip Recap 06:40 Runna Break and Heel Pain 14:46 Alabama Trip and Brunch 16:42 Why Buc-ees Rules 22:44 Gym Gear and Training Split 27:31 Steiner Lawsuit Overview 29:20 Timeline And Stakes 31:17 What Are Super Shoes 32:34 Injury Patterns And Training Load 43:29 Defect Claims And Reporting 01:00:32 Wrap Up And Sign Off Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In episode 76 of “Lifting, Running, and Living,” Kelly and JK share updates and discuss two topics: Nike’s marketing backlash and recovery versus active recovery. Kelly reviews the “Brick” and mentions an upcoming work trip to Chicago and debates whether to bring the Brick. JK shares an “April Unplugged” community challenge to eat at least one screen-free meal daily and describes a 14-day dopamine detox aimed at reducing consumption and improving content creation. They then cover Nike’s Boston Marathon-adjacent “Runners welcome, walkers tolerated” sign and similar UK messaging, and finally debate what truly qualifies as active recovery, emphasizing scheduled rest and avoiding “active recovery” as an excuse to skip real days off. 00:00 Welcome and agenda 01:07 Brick phone blocker explained 05:00 Chicago work trip plans 12:15 April Unplugged challenge 15:55 Dopamine detox for creators 20:25 Quick extra update niece birthday 21:26 Nike Boston sign backlash 27:34 Is Nike shifting its culture 30:15 Nike Runner Image Shift 32:00 Nike Controversy History 37:14 Parkrun Billboard Backlash 38:49 Defining Active Recovery 41:40 Rest Day Versus Movement 44:31 Strava And Rest Guilt 50:26 Scheduling Recharge Days 55:54 Earn Your Rest Mindset 01:00:05 Kids Never Stop Playing 01:04:06 Wrap Up And Contact Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

Kelly and JK celebrate episode 75 and share training updates: Kelly recaps a March 28 two-mile race and  notes issues with the Runna app. JK reports recommitting to priming and short recovery circuits after lifts, reframing rest days as “recharge” days, and separating recovery as part of training strategy rather than sleep. They then discuss controversy around marathoner Emma Bates being dropped by nutrition brand UCAN after revealing she was pregnant, including disputed contract/negotiation timing, reduced offers, PR implications, contractor protections, and whether sponsorship type affects pregnancy support. 00:00 Episode 75 Kickoff 01:29 Updates And Controversy Tease 01:54 Kelly Two Mile Race Recap 11:19 Runna App Frustrations 16:51 JK Recovery Work Recommitment 28:22 Courtroom Streams And Lunch Breaks 32:06 Unedited Reality Moments 32:35 Desensitized To Crime 34:57 Living Abroad Perspective 37:35 Pivot To Fitness Talk 37:58 Emma Bates Sponsor Dispute 43:43 Brand Nuance And PR 51:29 Contract Terms And Workload 01:00:49 Contractor Protections And Abercrombie 01:07:02 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

Kelly and JK start episode 74 after switching podcast platforms and share updates after several weeks. Kelly mentions her husband Ty’s birthday, reviews her first month using an Oura Ring, and describes adding regular after-work “evening commute” walks. She also gives a brief running update ahead of an upcoming two-mile race. JK shares a short training update about lifting and cardio. They spend the rest of the episode discussing a Threads post claiming recreational runners don’t need strength training, walking through common arguments and their thoughts, and close with where to find the show online. 00:51 Episode 74 Updates Return 01:35 Birthday Shoutout and Lifting Seeds 03:02 Oura Ring First Impressions 07:03 HSA Approval and Cost Comparison 09:33 Evening Commute Walk Habit 15:25 Running Training and Achilles Flare 19:37 JK Training Remix and Consistency 27:18 Threads Take Runners Stop Lifting 32:29 Debate Begins Specificity Argument 34:27 Specificity Versus Strength 36:11 Survivorship Bias Reality 38:30 Periodize Your Training 39:33 Time Recovery Tradeoffs 46:08 Recreational Runner Myths 49:04 Running Is Not Strength 52:38 Anecdotes Aren't Evidence 56:57 Soreness Fear And Context 59:58 Gym Judgment Thread Story 01:05:54 Social Media Fills Blanks 01:08:54 Lift Weights Touch Grass Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

In episode 73 of Lifting, Running, and Living, Kelly and JK skip updates to jump right into topics, starting with Minimus Flow augmented reality sports sunglasses that combine watch/phone/bike-computer features for about $699. They then recap the 2026 LA Marathon men’s photo finish and discuss a heat policy allowing runners to stop at 18 miles and still get a medal. Finally, they cover the US Half Marathon Championships in Atlanta, where top women were led off course after cones were moved during a police-officer emergency and what has ensued since. 00:00 Episode Kickoff 00:58 AR Glasses Explained 06:06 Would Runners Use It 09:48 Market Fit And Price 17:21 LA Marathon Photo Finish 23:46 Heat Policy Medal Debate 28:48 US Half Champs Controversy 34:34 Finish Line Chaos 35:15 USATF Statement Fallout 37:31 Why Not Fix Results 40:18 ATC Explains Misroute 40:43 How Cones Got Moved 50:46 Who Should Know Course 54:31 Honorary Podium Update 56:28 Precedent and Legal Fears 57:13 Sports Call Comparison 01:00:23 World Team Stakes 01:05:14 PR Spin and Wrap Up 01:07:09 Final Sign Off Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠ Email us at ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠ Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠