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Ross and John are back to break down all of the recent Saints moves, whether it be restructures, re-signings or the Davon Godchaux trade. We'll give some insight on what we got from Kellen Moore's coaching staff on Monday afternoon, as well as discuss the impact of losing Will Harris and Paulson Adebo. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

Can the Saints afford to keep Chase Young, Paulson Adebo and Juwan Johnson or will they have to pick and choose? Ross and John break down what New Orleans could do ahead of the new league year and how active the Saints could be in free agency. We touch on big names that have become available recently and then talk about the Derek Carr plan. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

Ross and John are back with all the biggest tea from the NFL Scouting Combine. What we're hearing about the Saints, Derek Carr, Taysom Hill and much more from Indianapolis. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

Ross and John talk about the state of the Saints head coaching search, which has taken a bit of a turn with some key candidates not even interviewing with New Orleans. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

John and Ross are back to rank a list of potential head coaching candidates for the Saints. Where do they all fit in the tier maker and why? Plus, what to make of some of Mickey Loomis' comments from his end of the year presser. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

The Saints played good football for 30 minutes, but that's about it. New Orleans lost control of everything in the second half, and it was on both sides of the ball. Ross and John put the season to bed and break down the season finale against the Bucs, future opponents and much more. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

It's the regular season finale for the Saints, as they put a disappointing season to bed in Tampa. Ross and John discuss things to look for, Spencer Rattler's final start and if New Orleans even has a chance for the upset. Also, we tackle the head coaching rumors, with Aaron Glenn being at the center of it all. Is Mickey Loomis is the one to lead the charge? Here's what we think. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

If the Saints needed any further evidence of what is wrong with their team, then they got in the Superdome finale. The Raiders came to down and were supposed to be the inferior opponent. However, New Orleans took down that trophy with ease. Ross and John break down the bad from Week 17. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

The Saints are in the Superdome for the final time in 2024, and they host the Raiders in Week 17. What does New Orleans need to do to beat an inferior opponent? A lot of it centers around Spencer Rattler and how comfortable Klint Kubiak can make him. Ross and John also talk about the Saints coaching search, the previewing candidates and what likely happens for them. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

The Saints might have turned in their worst performance in years in the national spotlight. Nothing went right and they looked abysmal. Remember when New Orleans was a team that wouldn't get shut out? Ross and John break what little action went down and then hit on the many things that went wrong. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

Spencer Rattler leads the Saints into a frigid Green Bay and looks to upset the Packers. Can New Orleans pull it off without Alvin Kamara and the rookie leading the charge? Ross and John preview what has to go right for Darren Rizzi and company in all phases of the game, plus some big updates on players. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

The Saints were two totally different teams in each half, and the second half one nearly pulled off the upset against the Commanders. Join Ross and John as they talk through what went wrong for Jake Haener and what went right for Spencer Rattler. All that and plenty more from an interesting Week 15. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

Jake Haener will make his first start of his young career, and the Commanders are undoubtedly a tough draw. However, Haener is confident and looks ready to lead the Saints here. What does he need and New Orleans to do to help upset Washington? Ross and John dive into a Week 15 game preview. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

It wasn't the prettiest win or most convincing, but the Saints were able to escape the Meadowlands with a win over the Giants. There's plenty of questions for New Orleans following Week 14, mainly what the future of Derek Carr is going to be. Ross and John break it down, talking about what we liked, didn't like and what we want to see going forward. Oh, and Bryan Bresee saving the day to put some more Darren Rizzi magic in play. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle

The Saints had their first loss under Darren Rizzi, and it was a tough one. Now, we're curious to see how the team rebounds with a very favorable opponent at hand. What's the formula for New Orleans to win? How will they cope with no Taysom Hill? Can the run defense be better? Ross and John break it all down for Week 14. Twitter/X Follows Second And Saints Ross John Want to support the show in the easiest way? Use our Amazon link when you shop! https://amzn.to/4foxaEo Subscribe to Our Second And Saints YouTube Channel! Thanks to Our Sponsor Go to UnderdogFantasy.com, sign up with promo code SECONDSAINTS, and Underdog will give you a FREE PICK to use on your first cash Pick’em entry PLUS up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit. Must be 18+ (21+MA & AZ, 19+ AL, NE) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Void in CO. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; AZ: 1-800-NEXT-STEP (1-800-639-8783) or text NEXT-STEP to 53342; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369). Promotions FOCO is the official partner of Second and Saints. Get all your Saints gear here at 10% off using the code SNN10: Save $20 on your next sports event outing on SeatGeek with the code HENDRIX, good for your first purchase. BetMGM has you covered for all of your sports betting needs. New customers can use the code LAGNIAPPE or SECONDANDSAINTS to get $150 in free bets after your first $5 bet. Please gamble responsibly. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. CO, DC, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA) 21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (NV), 1-800-BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI), 1-800-981-0023 (PR). In partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. Visit BetMGM.com for Terms & Conditions. US promotional offers not available in DC, Kansas, Nevada, New York or Ontario. Buy 3 Months, Get 3 Months FREE with Mint Mobile: Special thanks to Videndum for providing the following audio equipment: JOBY GorillaPodJOBY Wavo PODJOBY Wavo AIRJOBY Wavo Boom Arm Get our episodes wherever you go! Don't forget to hit that subscribe and like button. Follow the Pod: Apple | RedCircle