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2023/09/07
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2026/10/15
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If you want to succeed in the mortgage industry, then there's no better starting point than picking up tips and guidance from your fellow professionals - and there's no better place to do so than Australian Broker Talk. The mortgage industry podcast, brought to you in association with Australian Broker, shines the spotlight on the biggest names across the mortgage sector, shares their stories and examines the hottest trends and issues in the market.
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Complex Lending: Before You Rule Out the Deal
2026/10/15
When a lending scenario doesn't service or falls outside standard policy, does that mean the deal doesn't work – or does it simply need a different approach?
In the fourth episode of the Wave Money and Australian Broker podcast series, Wave Money Founder and Managing Director John Flavell joins Wendy Robertson, Head of Marketing, to explore the complex lending scenarios brokers encounter every day – and why some may deserve a second look.
From servicing and self-employed income to trusts, joint debts and changing borrower circumstances, John explains how looking beyond a standard servicing calculation or policy checklist can lead to a very different lending outcome.
The conversation gets practical as John and Wendy work through real-world broker scenarios, including self-employed borrowers without completed financials, business owners looking to purchase their commercial premises, ATO and business debt consolidation, refinancing private lending, cash out, and borrowers navigating separation or divorce.
They also explore why direct access to experienced credit decision-makers and a willingness to understand the complete borrower scenario can make all the difference.
In this episode:
• Why different servicing methodologies can change a lending outcome
• How Wave Money assesses existing debts, investment properties and credit card commitments
• Recognising sustainable income from self-employed and PAYG borrowers
• Alternative income verification using Accountant's Declaration, BAS and business banking
• Navigating trusts, company structures and joint debts
• Identifying commercial lending opportunities within an existing client base
• Refinancing ATO, business and private lending debt
• Cash out for business, investment and other legitimate purposes
• Finding lending solutions for borrowers navigating separation or divorce
• Why complex scenarios benefit from a conversation with Credit
The message for brokers is simple: If you have a deal on your desk that makes sense but doesn't fit neatly within another lender's servicing model or policy, talk to your Wave Money Broker Relationship Manager and workshop the scenario before you rule it out.
Featuring:
John Flavell – Founder & Managing Director, Wave Money
Wendy Robertson – Head of Marketing, Wave Money
About Wave Money
Wave Money is an independently owned, broker-exclusive non-bank lender built to deliver flexible, common-sense lending solutions for borrowers whose needs may not be met by traditional lenders. With a strong focus on broker partnerships, Wave Money provides direct access to credit decision-makers, scenario workshopping, and a relationship-led approach to lending.
Connect with Wave Money
www.wavemoney.com.au
linkedin.com/company/wavemoneyaustralia/
Turning Existing Clients into Commercial Opportunities
2026/09/14
Could your next commercial lending opportunity already be sitting in your client book?
In this episode of the Australian Broker Talk podcast, produced in partnership with Wave Money, Mark Petterwood of Astute Financial Geelong joins Wave Money Founder and Managing Director John Flavell and Head of Marketing Wendy Robertson for a practical deep dive into Small Ticket Commercial lending.
Rather than talking theory, Mark takes us inside two recent client scenarios.
First, a successful self-employed business owner who had been renting his business premises for years gets the opportunity to purchase the property from his father.
Then, a 19-year-old apprentice takes his first step into property investment by purchasing a tenanted commercial property.
John and Mark unpack how the deals were approached, the challenges that emerged and why commercial lending doesn’t always need to be as complicated as brokers might think.
They also explore the opportunities that may already exist within brokers’ client bases – from small business owners looking to purchase the premises they operate from to residential investors considering commercial property.
In this episode:
• Two real Small Ticket Commercial deals
• Finding commercial opportunities within existing client relationships
• Helping business owners move from renting to owning
• Commercial property opportunities for existing investor clients
• Full Doc, Alt Doc and Lease Doc options
• Why workshopping a scenario early can make a difference
• Building commercial lending confidence without becoming a commercial specialist
Featuring:
Mark Petterwood – Astute Financial Geelong
John Flavell – Founder & Managing Director, Wave Money
Wendy Robertson – Head of Marketing, Wave Money
About Wave Money
Wave Money is an independently owned, broker-exclusive non-bank lender built to deliver flexible, common-sense lending solutions for borrowers whose needs may not be met by traditional lenders. With a strong focus on broker partnerships, Wave Money provides direct access to credit decision-makers, scenario workshopping, and a relationship-led approach to lending.
Connect with Wave Money
www.wavemoney.com.au
linkedin.com/company/wavemoneyaustralia/
MFAA CEO Anja Pannek on why brokers keep gaining market share
2026/09/06
MFAA CEO Anja Pannek on why brokers keep gaining market share
AFG's Chief Distribution and Marketing Officer Them Lam on the group's 39% profit surge
2026/08/25
From AFG Securities to AI to new products, the executive explains what's driving the growth
Wave Money: Extending Complex Made Simple into SMSF & Commercial Lending
2026/06/01
Complex is no longer the exception – it’s the norm.
In this episode, we explore how brokers are navigating increasingly nuanced lending scenarios and why more are partnering with Wave Money to get deals done.
In this first episode of the Australian Broker & Wave Money Partner Profile Podcast Series, we explore a key shift shaping today’s lending landscape, the rise of more nuanced and complex borrower scenarios.
From self-employed income and trust structures through to multi-entity investors and evolving borrower profiles, brokers are increasingly navigating deals that require a more flexible, common-sense approach to credit.
Hosted by Wendy Robertson (Head of Marketing), this episode features a conversation with John Flavell (Founder & Managing Director) and Adam Robson (Senior Broker Relationship Manager).
Together, they unpack:
Why borrower complexity is becoming the norm, not the exception
How Wave Money approaches credit differently through context and conversation
The role of broker-lender partnerships in delivering better client outcomes
Real-life scenarios where flexible thinking made the difference
How brokers can navigate servicing challenges and maximise borrowing capacity
Why trust lending and structured lending solutions remain a key focus
About Wave Money
Wave Money is an independently owned, broker-exclusive non-bank lender built to deliver flexible, common-sense lending solutions for borrowers whose needs may not be met by traditional lenders. With a strong focus on broker partnerships, Wave Money provides direct access to credit decision-makers, scenario workshopping, and a relationship-led approach to lending.
Connect with Wave Money
https://www.wavemoney.com.au
linkedin.com/company/wavemoneyaustralia/
Connect with the Speakers
John Flavell – https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnflavell/
Adam Robson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-robson
Wendy Robertson – https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-robertson
Partner Profile Series | Inside Wave Money: A Partner for Complex Lending
2026/04/01
Complex is no longer the exception – it’s the norm. In this episode, we explore how brokers are navigating increasingly nuanced lending scenarios and why more are partnering with Wave Money to get deals done.
In this first episode of the Australian Broker & Wave Money Partner Profile Podcast Series, we explore a key shift shaping today’s lending landscape, the rise of more nuanced and complex borrower scenarios.
From self-employed income and trust structures through to multi-entity investors and evolving borrower profiles, brokers are increasingly navigating deals that require a more flexible, common-sense approach to credit.
Hosted by Wendy Robertson (Head of Marketing), this episode features a conversation with John Flavell (Founder & Managing Director) and Adam Robson (Senior Broker Relationship Manager).
Together, they unpack:
· Why borrower complexity is becoming the norm, not the exception
· How Wave Money approaches credit differently through context and conversation
· The role of broker-lender partnerships in delivering better client outcomes
· Real-life scenarios where flexible thinking made the difference
· How brokers can navigate servicing challenges and maximise borrowing capacity
· Why trust lending and structured lending solutions remain a key focus
About Wave Money
Wave Money is an independently owned, broker-exclusive non-bank lender built to deliver flexible, common-sense lending solutions for borrowers whose needs may not be met by traditional lenders. With a strong focus on broker partnerships, Wave Money provides direct access to credit decision-makers, scenario workshopping, and a relationship-led approach to lending.
Connect with Wave Money
www.wavemoney.com.au
linkedin.com/company/wavemoneyaustralia/
Connect with the Speakers John Flavell – www.linkedin.com/in/johnflavell
Adam Robson – www.linkedin.com/in/adam-robson
Wendy Robertson – www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-robertson
Riding the asset finance wave: COG's Damian Mantini on industry growth
2026/03/11
Riding the asset finance wave: COG's Damian Mantini on industry growth
Inside small business lending: Bizcap Deputy CEO Rebecca Del Rio reveals what brokers need to know
2026/01/27
Inside small business lending: Bizcap Deputy CEO Rebecca Del Rio reveals what brokers need to know
NAB's Chris Thomas talks commercial lending and broking opportunities
2025/12/16
NAB's Chris Thomas talks commercial lending and broking opportunities
Three months in: Mark Woolnough on leading MyState’s broker channel
2025/10/02
Australian Broker talks to Woolnough about what’s happening in the broker channel and how he’s settling into the new gig
Multifunds' Andrew Beaumont unpacks the private lending opportunity for brokers
2025/08/15
As private lending takes off in Australia, Andrew Beaumont, director at Sydney-based Multifunds, dives into what's driving the growth, and what brokers need to know to capitalize.
Six months in: CommBank’s Baber Zaka on shaping the future of broking
2025/07/02
Commonwealth Bank's Baber Zaka, general manager, third party banking, chats with Australian Broker about redefining the broker-lender dynamic, the evolving lender role, tech's shake up of the industry, and the market forces driving change.
How the Broker's Bible guides you to success
2023/11/24
In this episode of Australian Broker Talk (AB Talk), Ryan Johnson interviews Katherine Persoglia, Managing Director of Property Before Prada and founder of The Broker's Bible. Persoglia discusses her experience in the mortgage broking industry and the inspiration behind her new resource, The Broker's Bible. he primary goals of The Broker's Bible are to: Educate brokers on industry trends and best practices Provide brokers with practical tools for business success Foster strong broker-client relationships Make a positive impact on the lives of Australians Persoglia is confident that The Broker's Bible will significantly impact the mortgage broker community. She envisions it becoming an invaluable resource for brokers seeking to enhance their skills, knowledge, and business practices.
Lessons from a 4-day work week
2023/10/26
In this episode, we'll interview Ryan Watson, CEO of Tribeca Financial. Two years ago, Tribeca Financial made the bold move of implementing a 4-day work week. Now Ryan’s here to share the challenges, benefits, and how to implement it in your brokerage.
How brokers can diversify while remaining specialised
2023/09/22
As the saying goes, wisdom comes from those who have seen the mortgage industry from both sides of the fence. Wiser still are people like Chong who have experienced three different perspectives – as a business development manager (BDM), a broker, and a business owner. Listen to Yuan Chong's journey and how he built Sqale to help brokers diversify through leveraging partnerships.
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