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Hey horse fiend. What if your rides were more magic than mystery? What if your relationship with your horse was more magnetic than electric? This podcast isn't about training harder, riding better, or drilling more. Here, we explore what happens when you choose allowing over controlling. It’s about what unfolds when you soften, listen, and let your horse want you back. Between power and patience lies a place your horse is waiting to meet you. This is where your story begins and your partnership grows.
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81. Beyond the Bit: Slow Down to Learn Faster with Daniel Dauphin
2026/10/16
Could you ask your horse to walk exactly seven steps—and stop on the seventh? It sounds simple, but Daniel Dauphin explains why slowing down can reveal the gaps we rush past.
In Beyond the Bit: Slow Down to Learn Faster with Daniel Dauphin, I’m joined by the horseman, clinician, and host of Adult Onset Horsemanship for a conversation about better learning at both ends of the reins. We explore what bits can—and can’t—do, why the walk deserves more attention, and how stepping outside our horse-world bubbles can make us more thoughtful riders.
Daniel also shares his vision for the Best Horse Practices Summit and discusses Buck the Trend, a mental-health initiative supporting people in the horse community. Along the way, expect a few dad jokes and practical exercises for this episode’s ten-minute experiment.
Explore Daniel’s work and the organizations mentioned:
• Dauphin Horsemanship: https://dauphinhorsemanship.com
• The Bit Course: https://thebitcourse.com
• Best Horse Practices Summit: https://besthorsepracticessummit.org
Content note: This episode includes discussion of suicide and mental health.
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You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
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Happy Riding!
80. What’s the Mission? Adam Trenk on Horses, Leadership & Rebuilding Genuine Billy Cook Saddles
2026/10/08
What happens when the plan falls apart?
In this episode of The Thinking Horse and Rider, Anna Fox talks with Adam Trenk, CEO of Genuine Billy Cook Saddles, about horses, leadership, pressure, resilience, and rebuilding an iconic Western brand.
Adam shares the story of acquiring Genuine Billy Cook after years of decline, slowing production down to restore craftsmanship and quality, and then rebuilding the company again after a devastating tornado destroyed the factory in Sulphur, Oklahoma.
But this conversation goes far beyond saddles.
Anna and Adam explore the parallels between horsemanship and entrepreneurship: taking small wins, rebuilding trust, staying patient under pressure, learning from failure, and knowing when to adapt instead of forcing the original plan.
They also talk about saddle fit, Western versus English riding, leadership, nervousness, and one of the most important questions we can ask before working with a horse:
What’s the mission?
Because the right tool, the right amount of pressure, and even the right plan depend on the horse, the situation, and what you’re actually trying to accomplish.
In this episode:
• The rebirth of Genuine Billy Cook Saddles• Rebuilding after the 2024 Sulphur tornado• Why patience and small wins matter in horses and business• Using the least amount of pressure possible• Saddle fit and choosing the right tool for the job• What horses teach us about leadership• Failure, resilience, and getting back on• Situational awareness and knowing when to change the plan
Whether you ride Western, English, dressage, hunters, jumpers, or just want to become a more thoughtful partner for your horse, there’s plenty here to take back to the barn.
🎧 Listen now and ask yourself: What’s today’s mission?
Learn more about Genuine Billy Cook Saddles at genuinebillycook.com.
Want to go deeper into awareness, trust, timing, and communication with your horse? Find Reconnect, Rebuild & Ride with Heart in the show notes.
Find Genuine Billy Cook Saddles @https://genuinebillycook.com/collections/saddles
or on Instagram @genuinebillycook
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
79. Ride Easier, Help Your Horse Move Better with Mary Debono
2026/09/29
Can changing the way you move help your horse move with greater ease?
Feldenkrais Method practitioner and Debono Moves creator Mary Debono joins us to explore how a rider’s balance, breathing, tension, and movement habits shape the horse–human conversation. We discuss why familiar patterns aren’t always comfortable, how curiosity can be more effective than correction, and why trying harder can sometimes make movement more difficult.
Mary shares a gentler approach to rider pain, horse stiffness, compensatory movement, and nervous-system learning. She also guides us through a short seated movement experience designed to increase awareness, ease, and choice. Please wait until you are seated somewhere safe—and not driving, riding, or operating equipment—to try it.
Learn more about Mary at marydebono.com.
Get your free videos here: https://www.marydebono.com/rider
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
78. Does Your Horse Owe You Obedience? | Trust, Control & True Partnership
2026/09/24
We pay the bills. We buy the feed. We schedule the vet. We rearrange our lives around our horses. It’s easy to start feeling like the horse should give us something back. A good ride. Good behavior. Effort. Compliance. But horses don’t think about relationships that way.
In this episode of The Thinking Horse & Rider, we’re talking about relational tension—the tension that develops when expectations, control, trust, communication, and partnership all collide. We’ll explore why “my horse should do this for me” can quietly change the way we ride, why compliance is not the same as partnership, and what happens when we stop asking whether the horse was “good” and start asking how the horse actually felt that day.
We’ll also talk about:
• Why caring for your horse does not purchase obedience
• The difference between compliance and true partnership
• Why horses need clear communication, not constant management
• How predictability builds relational trust
• Why agency, choice, and control matter to horses
• How entitlement can creep into horse training without us realizing it
• Why a “good horse” is not always a happy horse
• How to redefine trust so it doesn’t mean “my horse will never surprise me”
• What it means to listen without immediately trying to control the outcome One of the biggest questions in this episode is: Can you allow your horse to make a small choice without treating that choice as a threat to your authority?
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Walk to Partnership Meditation
https://assets.cdn.filesafe.space/9ckgbm3alzfPQK2HDqho/media/6aac819d867721cb57117360.mp4
Reference Articles
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/11/6/1798
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/11/10/2782
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/animal-welfare/article/opportunities-for-agency-in-domestic-horses-applying-the-behavioural-domain-to-increase-equine-welfare/B79F7F53E2E15FE65DF4EEC3D078C58D
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
77. Why Trying Harder Makes Riding Harder | Emotional Tension & Better Feel
2026/09/18
What happens when trying harder actually makes riding harder?
In this episode of The Thinking Horse & Rider, we’re digging into emotional tension—the pressure riders put on themselves to do everything correctly, remember every instruction, fix every mistake, and manage every part of the horse at once.
That tension doesn’t just make riding feel harder. It can also make your cues less clear, your body less sensitive, and your horse less certain about what you’re actually asking.
We’ll talk about:
Why emotional tension often looks like overthinking instead of obvious fearHow too many simultaneous cues can confuse the horseWhy rewarding the right answer matters just as much as asking the questionHow pressure, release, repetition, and pauses affect learningWhy “more” is not always betterHow tension narrows attention and reduces your ability to feel subtle informationWhy curiosity is more useful than immediately labeling something right or wrongHow to stop correcting every little thing before your horse has a chance to respondYou’ll also get this week’s 10-Minute Experiment: a simple walking exercise where you count the horse’s footfalls, quiet the noise, and start developing better feel.
The goal isn’t to ride perfectly.
It’s to become quiet enough—physically, mentally, and emotionally—to actually hear what your horse is already telling you.
Sometimes your horse isn’t ignoring you. Sometimes they just can’t find the question in all of your noise.
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Articles:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1558787807001359
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1558787810000626
https://www.equitationscience.com/ises-training-principles?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Walk to Partnership Meditation
https://assets.cdn.filesafe.space/9ckgbm3alzfPQK2HDqho/media/6aac819d867721cb57117360.mp4
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
76. Your Horse Can Feel Your Anxiety | Here’s What to Do Before You Ride
2026/09/03
If your brain is already rehearsing everything that could go wrong before you ever reach the mounting block, this episode is for you.
This week on The Thinking Horse & Rider, we’re continuing the conversation from Episode 75 and digging into mental tension and anticipatory anxiety—the fear of what might happen before anything has actually gone wrong.
You’ll learn why your thoughts and body can start rehearsing fear before you ride, how that changes the way you show up around your horse, and why your horse may notice those changes even though they have no idea what story is running through your head.
We’ll also talk about how to separate what’s actually happening from what you’re predicting, why present-moment narration can help interrupt anxious thought patterns, and how to start practicing the mental patterns you actually want to keep.
In this episode:
Why your thoughts are always practicing somethingHow anticipatory anxiety affects your brain and bodyWhat your horse may be picking up from your fearWhy “don’t be afraid” usually isn’t useful adviceHow to name anxiety without letting it run the rideA practical 10-minute experiment to bring yourself back to the presentHow to tell the difference between a real warning sign and a fearful predictionThe goal isn’t to convince yourself that nothing bad could ever happen.
It’s to become more aware, more present, and better able to respond to the horse you actually have—not the horse you’re afraid you might have.
And remember:
Your thoughts are always practicing something. The question is whether they’re practicing the pattern you want to keep.
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
Walk to Partnership Meditation
https://assets.cdn.filesafe.space/9ckgbm3alzfPQK2HDqho/media/6aac819d867721cb57117360.mp4
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
75. The Hardest Part of Riding | How to Stay Relaxed on Your Horse
2026/08/25
In this episode of The Thinking Horse and Rider, we're talking about something almost every rider experiences but few people know how to work through: fear and tension in the saddle.
After an unexpected run-in with a wasp (and a horse standing nearby), I realized just how quickly our brains jump into survival mode—and how similar that feels to what many riders experience before they even get on their horse.
We'll explore:
Why staying relaxed is the hardest part of riding
The difference between physical and mental relaxation
The four types of tension that affect riders and horses
Why "just be confident" and "push through it" often make fear worse
Simple exercises to build real balance, body awareness, and confidence
How breathing, visualization, and nervous system regulation can improve your riding
Why confidence is built through successful experiences—not by ignoring fear
Whether you're nervous about cantering, worried about your horse spooking, struggling with self-doubt, or simply want to become a calmer, more connected rider, this episode will give you practical tools to help both you and your horse stay in a learning mindset instead of a survival mindset.
Practice the standing exercise at the halt to improve your balance, body awareness, and confidence. Start with a helper if needed, focus on slow, controlled movement, and notice how learning to recover can change the way you ride.
💛 Join The Happy Horse & Rider Lab for more conversations, experiments, and support from riders learning to think differently about their horses.
If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the podcast, leave a rating or review, and share it with another horse person. It helps these conversations reach more riders who want a calmer, more connected partnership with their horses.
This Week's 10-Minute Experiment
74. The Horse Training Mistake Almost Everyone Makes (Without Realizing It)
2026/08/18
The Horse Training Mistake Almost Everyone Makes (Without Realizing It)
What if one of the biggest mistakes we make with our horses isn't what we teach...it's what we stop teaching?
When a horse becomes buddy sour, pushy for treats, anxious at the mounting block, spooky on the trail, or difficult to canter, many of us instinctively remove the problem. We stop taking them to horse shows. We stop feeding treats. We stay in the arena. We avoid the situation altogether.
Sometimes that's smart management.
But management isn't the same thing as education.
In this episode, Anna explores what she calls "The Keep Away Game"—our tendency to avoid the very situations that could help both horse and human learn and grow. Inspired by her recent conversation with animal communicator Ginny Horton, she challenges listeners to rethink whether they're solving the problem...or simply postponing it.
You'll learn:
Why avoidance is a management strategy—not a training method.
The difference between stopping a behavior and teaching a new skill.
How punishment and education create very different outcomes.
Why well-taught boundaries actually create more freedom for horses.
How to know whether your horse isn't ready—or you simply need a new way to teach.
What to look for when choosing the right trainer or coach for a specific problem.
Why the skills you build at home determine what happens under pressure at a horse show or on the trail.
If you've ever found yourself avoiding a situation because it feels easier than working through it, this episode will give you a new way to think about training—and remind you that every challenge is also an opportunity to learn.
Choose one thing you've been avoiding with your horse.
Then ask yourself:
Am I removing the opportunity because my horse isn't ready yet...or because I don't know how to help them become ready?
Spend ten minutes researching a new approach. Talk to your trainer. Read a book. Watch a video. Explore a different training modality.
Don't just keep the problem away.
Start educating yourself—and your horse.
If this episode resonated with you, follow The Thinking Horse & Rider Podcast, leave a review, and share it with another horse person who's ready to replace avoidance with education.
This Week's 10-Minute Experiment
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Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
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Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
73. How about Animal Communicator Ginny Horton: What Horses Really Need From Humans | Soul Sketches
2026/08/10
What do horses really need from humans?
In this episode of The Thinking Horse & Rider, Anna talks with animal communicator Ginny Horton, author and illustrator of Soul Sketches, about what horses may be trying to tell us about community, choice, safety, connection, and belonging.
Ginny shares how she became an animal communicator, how remote animal communication works, and some of the common themes she hears from horses during her sessions. The conversation explores why horses may struggle when their social needs are limited, whether humans can truly be part of a horse’s community, how horses experience our emotions and intentions, and why some behaviors we label as training problems may actually be relationship or environment problems.
They also talk about horse welfare, independence, competition, listening to subtle signals, and the importance of asking “why” before trying to correct behavior.
Plus, Ginny shares the story behind Soul Sketches and how the book brings together real animal communication stories and her illustrations of the emotional messages she receives from animals.
If you’ve ever wondered what your horse might want you to understand, this conversation will give you plenty to think about.
Find Soul Sketches: Sketches from the soul of real communications from real animals and their humans by Ginny Horton on Amazon https://a.co/d/0gDOah5c
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
72. Heart Centered Horsemanship with Stacey Carter
2026/07/27
Should you lead your horse with your heart or your head?
In this episode, Anna talks with Stacey Carter, founder of Heart Centered Horsemanship, about moving beyond dominance-based training to create safer, more cooperative relationships with horses. Stacey shares how therapeutic horsemanship, nervous-system work, yoga, and Debono Moves shaped her mindful approach.
They explore why non-dominance doesn’t mean weak boundaries, how horses respond to what we’re actually communicating, and why doing less can create greater clarity and connection.
For this week’s 10-minute experiment, Stacey invites you to practice “going back to nothing”—releasing unnecessary tension, finding relaxed awareness, and noticing how your horse responds when you stop micromanaging every moment.
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart in the Skool Classroom
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
71. Why You Miss the Signs Before Your Horse Spooks (And How to Change It)
2026/07/19
Did your horse really spook, buck or bolt “out of nowhere”—or did both of your nervous systems miss the quieter signals leading up to it?
In this episode of The Thinking Horse and Rider, Anna explores how stress, information overload and a high baseline level of anxiety can limit a rider’s ability to feel what is happening in their own body and recognize subtle changes in their horse. You’ll learn why regulation does not mean being sleepy or emotionless, why a calm-looking horse may still be dysregulated, and how nervous-system state affects learning, confidence, safety and responsiveness.
Anna also challenges common ideas about getting a horse “forward.” Forward is not miles per hour—it is availability. A responsive horse can go, slow down, rebalance and remain mentally present without the rider constantly nagging or applying conflicting aids.
This week’s Ten-Minute Tuesday experiment will help you notice the first signs of tension, pause before either of you enters survival mode and practice returning to relaxation before trying again.
Join the free Happy Horse and Rider Lab community and learn more about Reconnect, Rebuild and Ride With Heart on Skool.com https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart
https://equusenlightened.com/reconnect-rebuild-horse-human-partnership
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
70. Are You the Person Your Horse Needs You to Become?
2026/07/06
We spend so much time chasing outcomes in the horse world. We celebrate ribbons, scores, smooth rides, and milestones. But what if those aren’t the things that truly shape us—or our horses?
In this episode of The Thinking Horse & Rider, I explore why the process matters far more than the outcome. Your horse isn’t simply learning from you; they’re revealing who you already are. Every ride exposes your patience, clarity, consistency, emotional regulation, and compassion, giving you an opportunity to grow into the horseman your horse truly needs.
We’ll talk about why visualization is only the beginning, how daily execution creates lasting transformation, why some of the best horsemanship happens when you’re nowhere near your horse, and how creating clarity in your practice leads to faster progress for both horse and rider.
Because your horse isn’t the project. The relationship is.
And relationships are built through process—not outcomes.
In this episode:
Why goals provide direction but process creates transformationHow horses reveal our habits, emotions, and mindsetBecoming the person your horse needs instead of trying to “fix” your horseWhy daily habits matter more than big breakthroughsHow clarity reduces decision fatigue and accelerates learningThe difference between riding consistently and practicing consistentlyA simple three-question experiment to transform your next three weeksTimestamps
00:00 Why our culture celebrates outcomes instead of the process
02:15 Your horse reveals who you already are
05:15 Becoming the person your horse needs
08:20 Visualization is helpful—but execution changes everything
12:45 Why some of the best horsemanship happens away from your horse
16:15 Clarity creates speed: reducing latency in learning
21:30 Decision fatigue and creating a daily training plan
26:00 Why great coaching is about clarity, not more exercises
28:45 Falling in love with repetition
33:00 Every interaction trains two nervous systems
35:45 Consistency is practicing principles—not just riding more
38:10 Your 10-minute experiment: three questions to change your partnership
42:15 Final thoughts: Train yourself, and the horse will follow
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
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You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart
https://equusenlightened.com/reconnect-rebuild-horse-human-partnership
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
69. BONUS When is it too Hot to Ride?
2026/07/04
Is it too hot to ride your horse? The answer isn’t as simple as checking the thermometer.
As a former collegiate athletic trainer, I learned that heat safety isn’t about comfort—it’s about physiology. In this episode, I compare modern sports medicine protocols used by the NCAA, NFL, Olympic athletes, and the military with the way we think about heat in the horse world.
You’ll learn why temperature alone doesn’t tell the whole story, what Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) is, why humidity, sun, wind, footing, and workload all matter, and how to recognize the early signs of heat stress in both horses and humans before they become emergencies.
We’ll also discuss:
Why horses and humans overheat differentlyHow fitness, breed, age, and equipment affect heat toleranceWhy behavior is often your first warning signThe importance of measuring core body temperatureWhy “cool first, transport second” saves livesHow to make informed decisions instead of relying on arbitrary rulesThe best horsemen aren’t looking for a number—they’re looking for information. By understanding the physiology behind heat stress, you’ll be better equipped to protect both yourself and your horse during hot weather.
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart
https://equusenlightened.com/reconnect-rebuild-horse-human-partnership
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
Keywords: horse heat stress, riding in hot weather, horse safety, equine health, WBGT, wet bulb globe temperature, heat stroke, heat exhaustion, horse training, equestrian, horse welfare, sports medicine, Thinking Horse and Rider.
68. The Biggest Myth in Horse Training: Dominance
2026/06/30
What does it really mean to be a leader for your horse?
For decades, riders have been taught that safety depends on being the “boss”—that horses need a dominant leader who controls every situation. But is that how horses actually live?
In this episode of The Thinking Horse and Rider, I sit down with Kim Hallin of Unbridled LLC, author of Horse Wisdom, to explore what horse ethology tells us about leadership, dominance, and the complex social lives of horses. Together, we discuss why wild horse herds don’t operate the way many of us were taught, how fear and control have shaped traditional horsemanship, and what we can learn by observing horses with curiosity instead of judgment.
We also explore how our relationships with horses often mirror our relationships with ourselves and others, why autonomy and emotional regulation matter, and how true leadership is built on trust, clarity, and connection—not force.
If you’ve ever questioned the advice to “show your horse who’s boss,” this conversation will challenge you to think differently about partnership, leadership, and what horses have been trying to teach us all along.
In this episode you’ll learn:• Why dominance theory doesn’t accurately describe horse society• How wild horses share leadership and adapt to changing situations• The difference between leadership and control• How fear influences both riders and training methods• What horses can teach us about relationships, community, and living with greater awareness
Chapters and Timestamps
00:00 Welcome Kim Hallin of Unbridled
01:05 What “Unbridled” Really Means
03:10 Horses, Humans, and Domesticated Beliefs
05:35 Are Humans Still Learning From Nature?
08:20 Where Dominance Theory May Have Started
10:15 Why Horse Herds Aren’t Dominance Hierarchies
13:35 Resource Guarding vs True Leadership
16:20 Why Riders Cling to Control
19:10 Fear, Trauma, and “Get Back On” Culture
23:40 When Riding Stops Feeling Joyful
27:30 How Fear Affects Horse and Rider Safety
30:45 Are We Rebranding Control as Leadership?
34:10 Boss vs Leader in Horse-Human Relationships
37:30 What Wild Horses Teach About Cooperation
41:05 Why Force Is Rare in Natural Herds
44:15 Stallions, Fighting, and Misunderstood Behavior
48:20 What Changes When Horses Aren’t Confined
51:10 Scarcity, Hay Piles, and Domestic Herd Stress
54:35 Shiloh the Mustang and Herd Education
59:45 What Young Stallions Actually Need to Learn
1:04:20 The Myth of the Alpha Mare
1:07:15 How Herds Help Raise Foals
1:11:10 Why Autonomy Matters for Horses
1:14:25 Micromanagement and Learned Helplessness
1:18:40 Naming Hard Truths Without Shame
1:21:15 10-Minute Experiment: Watch Spinal Alignment
1:26:30 Kim’s Retreats and Online Community
1:30:10 Horse Wisdom, Ownership, and Consent
1:34:45 Holding Complexity Without Getting Triggered
To learn more about Kim Hallin’s work, visit kimhallin.com, where you’ll find information about her immersive retreats, online courses, membership community, and her book, Horse Wisdom: Life Lessons for Humanity. Kim also shares thoughtful essays exploring horse behavior, relationships, and the wisdom of nature through her Substack, My Unbridled Life. Whether you’re looking to deepen your understanding of horse ethology or explore the parallels between horses and human relationships, her work offers a unique and thought-provoking perspective.
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
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Happy Riding!
67. We're All Traumatized. Now What?
2026/06/22
We’re all traumatized. Now what?
After a question at Happy Horse Camp about what “trauma lens” I work from, I found myself reflecting on my childhood, my years as a 911 dispatcher, and the many theories I’ve studied—from learning theory and neuroscience to polyvagal theory and psychology. What I’ve learned is that no single framework explains every horse or every human.
In this episode, we explore why life leaves marks on all of us, why trauma doesn’t mean broken, and why I believe awareness—not labels, dominance, or even trauma itself—is the foundation of growth.
We’ll talk about post-traumatic growth, the danger of labeling horses and humans, the two extremes horse people often fall into, and why I teach awareness before technique. You’ll also walk away with a few simple practices to help you observe with more curiosity and less judgment.
Because behavior is information, not identity.
And maybe the question isn’t “What happened to us?” but “What is possible next?”
✨ Want to dive deeper? Awareness is the first Seed in Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart. You can also access my free Awareness workshop on my website or inside the Happy Horse and Rider Lab community on Skool.
Get the FREE Awareness workshop www.equusenlightened.com
Find me on social media as @equusenlightened.
Join the Horse and Rider Lab on Skool. It’s free!
https://www.skool.com/equus-enlightened-8966/about
You can also view videos of the riding episodes or listen to all of them on YouTube under Come Ride with Me Riding Videos. My channel is https://www.youtube.com/@equusenlightened
Read blogs or find more links @ https://linktr.ee/equusenlightened
Find out more about Reconnect, Rebuild, and Ride with Heart
https://equusenlightened.com/reconnect-rebuild-horse-human-partnership
Email me at [email protected]
Happy Riding!
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