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(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) SHOWPOURRI #3 Originally aired March 19 & April 23, 2025. What REALLY happens behind the scenes of The Amazing Race? And how do you recognize narcissistic behavior in the people around you? We’re wrapping up Week Two of Showpourri with two fascinating conversations that take us from reality television to the complexities of human behavior. First up, THE AMAZING RACE! Our friends and longtime listeners Lori and Scott Thompson join us to share their experience competing on CBS’s hit reality show, The Amazing Race! What’s it really like racing around the world with cameras following your every move? What happens behind the scenes? And what are contestants actually allowed to reveal? Lori and Scott give us an inside look at their incredible adventure, sharing stories and experiences you don’t always get to see on television. Then, we’re talking NARCISSISM! Our good friend and dream expert Lauri Loewenberg is back! But this time, we’re not interpreting dreams. We’re diving into narcissism, recognizing troubling behaviors, navigating difficult personalities, and understanding what to watch for in relationships. We also revisit some of the celebrity behavior making headlines at the time, including discussions involving Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, Blake Lively, and Meghan Markle. And somehow, we even get into sugar hangovers! Two very different conversations filled with fascinating stories, insights, and plenty of the unexpected. It’s the perfect way to wrap up another week of Showpourri! CONNECT WITH OUR GUESTS Lori & Scott Thompson — The Amazing Race Lori on Instagram: @lorisfablife Scott on Instagram: @sigmanuelder Find more from Lori through Lori’s Fab Life on YouTube. Lauri Loewenberg — Dream Expert Website: lauriloewenberg.com Instagram: @lauri_thedreamexpert Facebook: Lauri Loewenberg TikTok: @laurithedreamexpert Instagram: @pinups_by_lauri Website: youasapinup.com Lauri’s son’s music group HILYTe:soundcloud.com/hilyte FOLLOW FRANKIE AND JESS: Instagram, Facebook & TikTok: @listentofrankieandjess Frankie: @frankieslc Jess: @jessfergie14 Listen and subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. www.listentofrankieandjess.com Frankie and Jess PodcastReal talk. Real laughs. Every week. Disclaimer: Adult language and content. Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) SHOWPOURRI #2 Originally aired February 26 & March 12, 2025. From designing custom sneakers for Justin Timberlake to overcoming the fear of flying, this Showpourri takes us in a couple of completely different directions. And we love it! First up, we revisit one of Frankie’s favorite conversations with sneaker and cleat designer Jonathon Millar, the creative mind behind JSM 801 Customs. Jonathon shares how he turned his passion for sneakers into a business, the challenges along the way, and why men’s mental health is such an important part of his story. And did we mention he designed custom sneakers for Justin Timberlake? Yep! Justin even wore them during his Salt Lake City concert. Then, our buddy Brian Morris from Flight Deck joins us for one of those conversations that goes absolutely everywhere! We get into the fear of flying, panic attacks, sugar addiction, OnlyFans, Naked and Afraid, Shark Tank, Beardaments, and a whole lot more. Some fascinating insights, some serious moments, and plenty of laughs. Two great conversations that remind us why we love doing this podcast. CHECK OUT OUR GUESTS: Jonathon Millar — JSM 801 Customs Instagram: @jsm_801_customs Website: www.jsm801.com Brian Morris — Flight Deck Fear of Flying Flashcards and resources: www.flightdeck365.com Instagram & TikTok: @flightdeck365 Follow Frankie and Jess: @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) Two powerful conversations. Two very different perspectives on life. Originally aired February 6 & February 13, 2025. What happens when the life you imagined suddenly takes an unexpected turn? We revisit our heartfelt conversation with author Wendy L. Hooten, who shares the emotional journey of teaching her newborn son had Down syndrome. From the uncertainty and fear of those first moments to discovering a different kind of beautiful, Wendy opens up about motherhood, expectations, acceptance, and the lessons she never saw coming. We also revisit our fascinating conversation with pilot Jason, who gives us an insider’s perspective on the aviation disasters making headlines in early 2025, including the tragic midair collision near Washington, D.C. Jason had actually flown the same type of aircraft involved in the crash, bringing a unique perspective to a conversation we could have continued for hours. Two conversations that remind us how quickly life can change and how much we can learn from the people who’ve lived through extraordinary experiences. Learn more about Wendy L. Hooten: Book: Big People Don’t Pee in the Park: A Mother and Son’s Journey with Down Syndrome wendylhooton.com Follow Frankie and Jess: @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) We’re back with Frankie & Jess Showpourri #3! We’re revisiting two more meaningful conversations from the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives. This time, we’re talking about navigating the challenges of blended families, finding support through grief, and why none of us should have to figure everything out alone. FIRST UP: MINDY KYLE — STEPMOM COACHING Ever heard of a stepmom coach? Neither had we until we met Mindy Kyle! Being a stepmom can be an incredibly rewarding experience, but it can also come with complicated emotions, difficult family dynamics and expectations that nobody really prepares you for. Mindy Kyle helps stepmoms navigate those challenges through coaching, understanding and a much-needed support system. We have an enlightening conversation about a role that doesn’t always get the recognition or support it deserves. What happens when you’re trying to find your place in a family that already has its own history, relationships and routines? Where do you turn when you’re struggling, and how do you know you’re not alone in what you’re experiencing? Whether you’re a stepmom, know a stepmom or may someday find yourself in that role, this conversation offers valuable perspective. Sometimes just knowing that someone understands what you’re going through can make all the difference. Want to hear Mindy’s complete interview? Originally aired December 11, 2024. Find our episode featuring Mindy Kyle and stepmom coaching in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives. Connect with Mindy Kyle: Instagram: @mindykylecoaching Mindy Kyle Coaching:https://search.app/Rd425wQtu1ebXKAj7 Original episode contains adult language. NEXT UP: JASON & KIRSTEN — LIGHT AFTER GRIEF Have you ever felt completely alone in your grief? We sit down with Jason and Kirsten, a therapist and certified grief coach duo who have taken their own experiences with loss and turned them into a mission to help others. Together, they support people navigating some of life’s most heartbreaking experiences, including the loss of a spouse, parent or child. We talk about the loneliness that can accompany grief, the importance of connection and what it means to find your way forward when life will never look quite the same. Grief doesn’t come with an instruction manual. There isn’t a universal timeline, and there’s no single right way to experience it. But there can be comfort in hearing from people who understand that pain and have dedicated themselves to helping others through it. Moving forward doesn’t mean forgetting the people we’ve lost. And healing doesn’t mean we stop loving or missing them. This is a conversation worth hearing and sharing with someone who might need it. Want to hear Jason and Kirsten’s complete interview? Originally aired December 18, 2024. Find our episode featuring Jason and Kirsten from Light After Grief in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives. Connect with Jason & Kirsten: Instagram: @lightaftergrief Original episode contains mature content and language. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) We’re back with Frankie & Jess Showpourri #2! We’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from the Frankie & Jess Podcast. And this time, we’re bringing you two discussions about relationships, healing, family and finding your way through some of life’s most challenging chapters. FIRST UP: TIFFANY DENNY & KIERSTYN FRANKLIN — THE RELATIONSHIP RECOVERY How do you begin healing after a relationship has left you questioning your own worth? Our friends Tiffany Denny and Kierstyn Franklin from The Relationship Recovery return to the show for an important conversation about relationship trauma, emotional healing and rediscovering your sense of self. What makes their approach especially meaningful is that they’ve walked through difficult relationship experiences themselves. They’re also specifically trained in relationship trauma and understand how difficult the healing process can be. We talk about rebuilding confidence, recognizing your worth and finding the strength to move forward after a painful relationship. Because healing isn’t just about getting past what happened. It’s about rediscovering who you are and remembering what you deserve. Whether you’re recovering from a difficult relationship or know someone who is, there’s a lot to take away from this conversation. Want to hear the complete interview? Originally aired January 23, 2025. Find our episode with Tiffany Denny and Kierstyn Franklin in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives. Connect with The Relationship Recovery: Website and coaching: https://www.therelationshiprecovery.com/coaching Schedule an appointment: https://app.acuityscheduling.com/schedule.php?owner=21110050 NEXT UP: SARA COOK — RAISING AGING PARENTS This is a conversation that almost everyone will face at some point in life. What happens when the people who spent their lives taking care of us begin needing us to take care of them? We sit down with Sara Cook, a Certified Occupational Therapy Assistant (COTA), to talk about one of life’s most emotional and sometimes uncomfortable transitions: navigating the changing needs of our aging parents. How do you start those difficult conversations? How do you balance their independence with concerns about their safety and well-being? And how do you approach the subject with compassion and respect? It’s a discussion about the realities of aging, the importance of communication and the conversations families often put off until they’re forced to have them. These conversations aren’t always easy. But having them before a crisis can make a world of difference. Whether you’re already caring for an aging parent or know that chapter may be ahead, this episode offers valuable perspective. Want to hear the complete interview? Originally aired January 29, 2025. Find our episode about aging parents with Sara Cook in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives. Connect with Sara: Instagram: @raisingagingparents Helpful resources: Canyon Home Care: https://www.canyonhomecare.com/ Salt Lake County Aging & Adult Services: https://www.saltlakecounty.gov/aging-adult-services/ Care.com: https://www.care.com/ @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) We’re kicking off Frankie & Jess Showpourri #1! We’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from the Frankie & Jess Podcast. Two different guests, two completely different stories, and some fascinating takeaways! FIRST UP: FILMMAKER & PRODUCER CELENE BETH OLSEN Celene Beth Olsen is a Salt Lake City-based filmmaker and producer specializing in true crime documentaries for film, television and podcasts. Her work includes productions for Investigation Discovery, Hulu, Oxygen, CBS, Peacock, Paramount+, Max and ABC. She also received recognition as a podcast host for Conveyor Media’s The Chosen Ones, which provided real-time coverage of the Lori Vallow Daybell investigation. We first had Celene on our radio show years ago when she began working on a documentary about Ted Bundy called Killing Theodore. What started as a filmmaking project turned into something much more complicated as Celene confronted the trauma, exploitation of victims and dehumanization of the people at the center of Bundy’s crimes. We talk about where the documentary stands, the difficult realities of telling true crime stories, and a question we’ve always wondered: How do you spend years immersed in some of humanity’s darkest stories without bringing that heaviness home with you? If you’re a true crime fan, this conversation is for you. Want to hear Celene’s complete interview? Originally aired September 19, 2024. Find the episode featuring Celene Beth Olsen and Killing Theodore in our podcast archives. NEXT UP: SANDI HENDRY, FOUNDER OF MINKY COUTURE What an incredible story of entrepreneurship, determination and passion! We sit down with Sandi Hendry, the founder and owner of Utah-based Minky Couture, to hear how the company came to be and what helped turn her vision into such a successful brand. Sandi’s enthusiasm for what she does is absolutely infectious. We talk about building a business, the importance of relationships, and something that really stands out about Sandi: her ability to make the people around her feel good. It’s no wonder Minky blankets make people feel good. When you’re in Sandi’s presence, she has a way of making everyone feel valued. Whether you’re a business owner, an entrepreneur or someone looking for a little inspiration, there are some great takeaways in this conversation. Want to hear Sandi’s complete interview? Originally aired October 3, 2024. Find the episode featuring Sandi Hendry and Minky Couture in our podcast archives. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) In PART TWO of our conversation with intuitive medium Chauncey Ellis, things get personal. After spending Part One learning about Chauncey’s journey into mediumship, this time she turns the reading toward us — and we had no idea where it was going to go. Chauncey explains what she calls “piggybacking,” when messages can seemingly move between different people and loved ones. Connections begin coming through for both Frankie and Jess — butterflies that immediately make Frankie think of his late mother-in-law, Dixie; sunflowers, You Are My Sunshine and jewelry that connect with Jess’s family; and other little details that begin adding up. Then the reading turns toward Frankie’s dad, Ray — and his 88-year-old mom, who is currently in a rehab and care facility. Frankie opens up about watching his mom change, wondering whether she may already be connecting with loved ones who have passed, and feeling his dad’s presence more strongly as he navigates this chapter. One message from Chauncey keeps coming through: comfort. Keep her warm. Be present. And don’t let worrying about what will eventually happen rob you of the time you still have with her now. The conversation also turns toward Frankie’s son, Axel, and the importance of the time he still has with his grandma. It leads to an honest conversation about anticipatory grief — knowing what may eventually be coming while still trying to stay completely present for the moments happening right now. Then Chauncey says something Frankie wasn’t expecting. She hears his dad call him “son.” That hits immediately. It’s what Ray used to call Frankie. And then comes another message: “You’re doing the right thing.” Chauncey talks about the “juggle and the struggle” Frankie has been carrying and says his dad wants him to know that he sees it. She also picks up on a gold pinky ring — Frankie’s dad’s wedding ring, which Frankie now wears as a way of keeping him close. But one of the most unexpected moments comes through music. Before arriving at the studio, Chauncey says she inexplicably felt compelled to turn up music in her car — something completely out of character for how she normally prepares for a reading. Sitting in the studio, she begins sensing a strong connection between Frankie, his dad and music. That opens a story Frankie has carried most of his life. When Frankie was six or seven, his dad would dim the lights, have him close his eyes and introduce him to the old-time radio programs he’d grown up listening to before television — Dragnet, The Green Hornet, The Lone Ranger, Superman and more. Years later, Frankie knew he wanted to work in radio. It wasn’t until he was in his 30s that he realized his dad had planted that seed. Before Ray died, Frankie was able to tell him: “You’re the reason I got into radio.” And sitting in the room where Frankie and Jess now record their podcast, surrounded by old radios, cassette tapes and pieces of a career that began decades ago, Chauncey offers another way of looking at it: every time Frankie sits down behind a microphone, he may be connecting to his dad all over again. It’s a conversation about mediumship, grief, caregiving, signs, family, music, being present — and the ways the people we lose can continue to be woven into the lives we’re still living. Whether you believe in mediumship, are curious about it, or simply wonder what might exist beyond what we can see, PART TWO gave us plenty to think about. 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(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) What happens when the voice in your head doesn’t feel like it’s coming from you? In PART ONE of our two-part conversation, we sit down with Chauncey Ellis, an astrologist, psychic and intuitive medium who says she connects with loved ones who have passed and helps others learn to trust their own intuition. Chauncey takes us back to being just five years old when she remembers seeing her first spirit — a woman carrying a baby through her childhood home. But it wasn’t until about four years ago that she began to understand that some of the thoughts, feelings and images she’d experienced throughout her life might be something more. We talk about the difference between being psychic and being a medium, what a message from the other side feels like to her, how she separates those messages from her own thoughts, and the vulnerability of wondering, “Is this actually coming through…or is this just me?” Then we get into a story that stopped us in our tracks. While staying at the Peppermill in Wendover, Chauncey says she walked into her hotel room and immediately felt that someone had died there. Strange things began happening — lights flickering, electronics acting up and a fire alarm going off. She eventually searched the history of the hotel and discovered that a woman named Bonnie had died there years earlier. Chauncey began sharing what she was experiencing online and trying to learn more about Bonnie. Six months later, Bonnie’s family contacted her. What began as a paranormal mystery suddenly became something very real: a daughter who had lost her mother, a family that still carried questions, and a woman Chauncey felt deserved to be remembered. Chauncey shares what she believes she received from Bonnie, what the family told her resonated with them, and why that experience changed the way she looked at the entire story. And somehow, we also manage to get into runaway pugs, whether Frankie would ever sleep in a haunted hotel room, and why Chauncey — whose name apparently came from a dog in a book — doesn’t even like dogs. This is PART ONE. Part Two continues our conversation with Chauncey Ellis. Connect with Chauncey:Instagram: @chaunceyellis⁠Facebook: Chauncey Ellis⁠TikTok: @chaunceyellis⁠YouTube: @chaunceyellis⁠Bookings & more: Chauncey’s booking page⁠ Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) What if failure isn’t something to avoid, but something to welcome? We kick off our first episode of the week talking about rejection, persistence and why sometimes one yes can change your entire life. Frankie shares the rejection letters he collected trying to break into radio, the interview that eventually brought him to Utah, and a milestone that’s hard to believe: October 6 marks 29 years since his first day on the air in Salt Lake City. The conversation gets deeper as Frankie talks about visiting his mom in rehab and what he’s witnessing there — aging, isolation, the residents whose faces have become familiar, and the special people who care for them every day. There’s also that complicated push and pull of sometimes wanting to get out of there as quickly as possible, while knowing someday you might wish you’d stayed another ten minutes. We also hear from “Miss X,” a listener starting over after unexpectedly losing the career she gave ten years to, and longtime listener Julie Smith, who says hearing our own story of losing the radio show and rebuilding helped give her the courage to bet on herself and launch her own business. Plus, Hollywood Sleaze is back! We explain why management once made us change its name to Hollywood Headlines — and, of course, get into some of the sleaze making news. COMING UP THIS SUNDAY: Julie Janke from Millcreek City Lifestyle invites you to Sip & Savor Millcreek — Utah’s Premier Dine-Around Finale Festival, Sunday, October 11 from noon–4 PM at Log Haven in Millcreek Canyon. The 21+ event features 35+ participating establishments, curated bites, seasonal drinks and live music, while supporting WasteLess Solutions and a $20,000 food-rescue refrigeration fundraiser. Parking is at Skyline High School with shuttle service to Log Haven. Failure, reinvention, aging, community and figuring out how to keep moving when life doesn’t go according to plan. Sometimes the no isn’t the end of the story. You just haven’t reached your yes yet. Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) Twenty years changes you. Frankie and Jess end this week with a question that stopped both of them for a minute: What do you miss about the person you were 20 years ago? Jess misses some of the innocence—the rose-colored glasses and not knowing what was coming. Frankie misses the lightness of life before losing his dad, watching his mom get older, and carrying some of the things that simply come with another 20 years of living. But before they get there, there’s a LOT to unpack. They talk about healing even when it doesn’t feel like healing, teaching your kids the difference between attention and love, recognizing patterns in people, learning to tolerate disappointment, and why loyalty shouldn’t require sacrificing yourself. Sometimes choosing yourself isn’t selfish. Sometimes it’s overdue. Jess also opens up about missing Coop since he left for college and realizing why people sometimes reach for something to numb themselves instead of sitting with what hurts. That leads to a conversation about walking, nature, getting quiet—and the idea of a weekly “three-hour disappear”: no phone, no Wi-Fi, no people. Just enough silence to hear yourself again. Plus, a frightening Airbnb break-in story leads to a bigger conversation about travel safety, they talk about reports of drink spiking and the importance of looking out for yourself and each other, Jess nearly ripped Frankie’s pants off on a roller coaster, chickens apparently aren’t chickening, and somehow airplane masturbation makes the show. Growing older may take away a little of the lightness. Maybe the challenge is figuring out how to find some of it again. Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) Caleb Chapman is back in the music room, and this time he brought some pretty incredible news. Caleb is the founder of Caleb Chapman’s Soundhouse, where young musicians get the opportunity to learn, perform and share stages with some of the biggest names in music. He’s also the co-founder, along with Adam Reader — the Professor of Rock — of Utah’s People’s Music Hall of Fame. After honoring Huey Lewis in 2025 and Kenny Loggins in 2026, the next inductees are legendary: Earth, Wind & Fire. Caleb tells us how a friendship with Earth, Wind & Fire musical director Myron McKinley helped open the door, why he initially thought there was no way it would actually happen, and what happened when he sent the band his dream list of everything he hoped they’d agree to. They said yes to all of it. On January 23, 2027, Philip Bailey, Verdine White and Ralph Johnson will be at the Eccles Theater in downtown Salt Lake City for the People’s Music Hall of Fame induction ceremony, sharing stories from their career and ultimately taking the stage with Caleb’s young Soundhouse artists. We also get into the music that shaped Caleb — from getting Journey’s Frontiers for his 10th birthday to eventually becoming close friends with Journey drummer Steve Smith — plus Huey Lewis, Kenny Loggins, Sting, The Police, backstage stories, crazy concert riders and why sitting with an album and reading every liner note was such a big part of falling in love with music. And there’s another Utah connection. Caleb will be performing with David Osmond and the Osmond Chapman Orchestra at The Christmas Box International’s 30th Anniversary Black & White Pearl Gala. Oh, and apparently when you perform at an aquarium, the sharks have a rider too. 😂 🎶 People’s Music Hall of Fame: Earth, Wind & Fire January 23, 2027 • Eccles Theater • Salt Lake City Caleb says tickets are expected to go on sale at the end of October. People’s Music Hall of Fame / ticket information: https://www.ccsoundhouse.com/events/scholarship-concert-y39ft-hw3fx 🎵 Caleb Chapman’s Soundhouse: https://www.ccsoundhouse.com 🖤 The Christmas Box International — 30th Anniversary Black & White Pearl Gala: https://secure.qgiv.com/event/2026blackwhitepealgala/ Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) Sometimes life hands you a whole pile of emotions and says, Here. Hold all of these. This week, Frankie and Jess talk about the childhood stuff we carry into adulthood—and the responsibility we eventually have to heal it so the people around us don’t become collateral damage. Frankie opens up about getting closer to bringing his ma home, navigating Medicaid and New Choices, and realizing there are some parts of caregiving you simply can’t prepare for until you’re living them. And then there’s Mike. After five years in Utah, Frankie’s brother is leaving for New Jersey to start a new career and be closer to his sons. Frankie is genuinely excited for him…and genuinely sad to see him go. Those five years gave two brothers who had spent most of their adult lives apart a chance to become friends. They gave Axel an uncle nearby, his ma more time with her son, and Mike a chance to get back on his feet. Both can exist at the same time. Plus, Jess checks in on Coop’s first weeks of college, a weekend of weddings and celebrations, Frankie and Tammy play tourist in their own city, a listener discovers the podcast at Costco, and a message from one of Frankie’s longtime radio mentors brings things full circle. Life is messy. Good things can hurt. Hard things can hold silver linings. And sometimes all you can do is take the next thing as it comes. Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) At this point in life, Frankie and Jess are getting a lot more intentional about who gets their time, their energy, and their peace. It starts with a quote that opens up a much bigger conversation: “You owe no one forgiveness who refuses to acknowledge how they hurt you.” A listener question takes Frankie and Jess back to some difficult chapters from their radio years—and former coworkers they rarely talk about. They open up about forgiveness, accountability, being made the villain in somebody else’s story, and what it was really like showing up every morning and putting on a show while some pretty painful things were happening behind the scenes. Looking back, they also realize something else: through all of it, the listeners were their constant. The relationship went both ways. Frankie and Jess may have been helping people through divorces, births, deaths and hard seasons—but that community was helping carry them, too. Then comes a heartbreaking Southern Utah story about a family whose dog was mistakenly euthanized during what was supposed to be a routine allergy-shot appointment—and a conversation about how something so devastating could happen. From there, things get personal again. Jess talks about protecting her energy, stepping back from one-sided relationships and discovering JOMO—the joy of missing out. Frankie, ironically, is going the other direction. After decades of saying no because “it’s a school night” and morning radio controlled so much of his life, he’s trying to say yes more often. Maybe protecting your peace doesn’t always mean staying home. Sometimes it means making sure you don’t miss your life. Plus: Were you named after a celebrity, song or TV character? The surprisingly perfect reason Axel got his name, Tammy’s connection to Debbie Reynolds, the child Jess never had named Canton or Cohen, a possible Italian mob connection 😂, and why Frankie says one of the biggest differences between their old career and life now is simple: “Time is part of our paycheck now.” And Jess tries to create a family meal while Coop is home from college… only to have the grocery delivery arrive with one steak and a whole lot of creamer. Real talk, old wounds, getting older, protecting your energy—and figuring out when to say no and when to say yes. Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) Monica Garcia: “I Lost Everything and Gained Everything” Monica Garcia walked into Season 4 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and became one of the most talked-about Housewives in the franchise. But what happened when the cameras stopped rolling? Monica joins Frankie and Jess for a raw, funny and surprisingly emotional conversation about what RHOSLC gave her, what it cost her, and what she wishes viewers had seen. Nothing is really off limits. Monica opens up about her complicated relationship with her mother and what it was like watching that dynamic play out on television. She explains why seeing it from the outside ultimately gave her the strength to say “no more,” set boundaries and stop patterns she didn’t want passed down to her own daughters. Then we get into Housewives. Monica takes us behind the scenes of the Season 4 reunion, what she says viewers didn’t see surrounding Reality Von Tease, where she stands with Mary Cosby, Meredith Marks, Whitney Rose, Lisa Barlow and Heather Gay today, and whether she would actually return to RHOSLC. Her answer might surprise you. She also talks about the side of reality television viewers rarely see: what happens when your life suddenly becomes public property. The DMs. The judgment. The online hate. The impact on your children and relationships. And why telling someone, “You knew what you signed up for,” doesn’t begin to capture what it actually feels like. When Jess asks Monica what she lost from the experience and what she gained, her answer says everything: “Everything and everything.” Monica also talks about therapy, chosen family, breaking generational cycles, the people who showed up during her darkest moments, whether she’d ever do The Traitors, and why she believes reality TV can burn your old life to the ground while simultaneously giving you the chance to build a new one. And there’s a full-circle moment at the end that caught Frankie and Jess completely off guard when Monica reveals what listening to them on the radio meant to her years before any of them knew one another. KEEP UP WITH MONICA Instagram & Threads: @monicanikigarcia Monica also appears with Carlos King on Reality with the King, where she’s currently recapping The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.  She previously returned to reality TV as the voice of EVA 2.0 on Season 2 of House of Villains.  And listen for Monica on Celebrity Weakest Link, which she told us about during our conversation. Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content) Frankie and Jess start with a conversation about the power of our internal dialogue—and how the stories we repeat may affect the way we move through stress, fear and even pain. Frankie shares the story of crushing four fingers in a dog crate and the words he repeated to himself for nearly 25 minutes, while Jess remembers her grandfather’s lifelong mantra: “I’m fantastic and getting better.” And then… life starts lifeing. Jess shares a weekend that didn’t go remotely as planned, including Kevin’s back going out, having to cancel a wedding trip at the last minute, heartbreaking news about someone deeply connected to their family, and another big change in Coop’s life. Frankie is meanwhile learning firsthand just how complicated it can be to navigate Medicaid, New Choices and the maze of caring for an aging parent. Then comes the late-night phone call nobody wants to get: his mom has fallen at the care center and is headed to the ER. And somehow, that’s only Tuesday. By the end of the week, Frankie and Axel are trying to make it to a wedding in Southern Utah through torrential rain, a closed interstate and more than a few moments when turning around seemed like the obvious choice. They kept going. And on the other side was a beautiful wedding, an hour in a slot canyon with Axel, time with Tammy and a reminder that sometimes the moments you almost miss are exactly the ones you needed. It all leads to a bigger conversation about being present for the messy parts of life, allowing yourself to actually feel what you’re going through, and why Frankie and Jess are more grateful than ever to be where they are today. Life is lifeing. Choose your words wisely. Feel the feels. And sometimes… just keep going. Frankie & Jess Podcast — Real talk. Real laughs. Every week. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! rigbydental.com kengarffvwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) odysseydance.com/thriller https://linktr.ee/snappopparty?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=20cc5532-145f-4781-997b-f40dfc75d353 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices