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(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) Jon Absey joined the Frankie & Jess Podcast twice, and both conversations are available in their entirety. 🗓️ January–February 2024 Jon’s first appearance was a two-part conversation where he shared his life story, his 25 years as the Utah Jazz Bear, and the personal journey behind one of the most iconic mascots in professional sports. 🗓️ May 2025 Jon returned for an incredibly honest and moving conversation, opening up about his cancer diagnosis, how he was facing it, and what life looked like in that moment. All episodes can be found in full on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. We’re grateful to have shared these moments with Jon Absey, the forever bear of the Utah Jazz. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) In this episode of the Frankie & Jess Podcast, we welcome Ed Harrold—breath coach, author, and creator of Breath AS Medicine—for a conversation that unfolds slowly, intentionally, and right where it needs to. Ed shares his journey from growing up on the East Coast to eventually finding his way to Utah, drawn by space, nature, and the ability to finally breathe—literally and mentally. What began as a love for movement and athletic training eventually led him to a deeper realization: slowing down the body and breath unlocked something far more powerful than pushing harder ever did. We talk about rock bottom as a starting point, ego and competitiveness, sensitivity as a strength, and how breath became the shortcut that helped Ed rebuild his life. He breaks down the science behind breathing—why mouth breathing signals panic to the brain, how nasal breathing calms the nervous system, and why the speed of your breath often mirrors the speed of your thoughts. Ed also explains the difference between stress-based breathing practices like Wim Hof and more functional, everyday breathwork you can actually use in real life—at work, in traffic, or standing in line. We dive into brainwave states, the role of the lungs in regulating emotion, why slowing your inhale can help you become the “CEO of yourself,” and how simple awareness can shift how you show up in the world. To learn more about Ed, his work, and his breath training programs, visit: 👉 https://linktr.ee/edharrold This episode is part science, part story, and part reminder that maybe what we’re all really searching for… is space to breathe. Take a breath—and listen. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) This episode takes us through a wide range of emotions—and real life. We begin by honoring and remembering their dear friend Jon Absey, the original Utah Jazz Bear, who passed away peacefully in his sleep after battling pancreatic cancer. Jon was only 58 years old, and to know him was to love him. He was one of the kindest, most selfless people you could ever meet, and his impact on this community runs deep. We reflect on who Jon was, the love he gave so freely, and the sadness of losing someone far too soon. From there, the conversation turns personal as we talk about tattoos—why Jess has several, why Frankie only has two, and the deeper meanings behind each one. We also discuss the concerning and ongoing situation involving Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy Guthrie, who has gone missing in Tucson, Arizona. At 84 years old and of sound mind, the circumstances surrounding her disappearance are troubling, especially as her home has become a crime scene. We talk through what’s known so far and why it’s weighing so heavily on so many people following the story. And yes—we also touch on some lighter moments, including thoughts on the Grammys, because sometimes that’s how real conversations go: grief, concern, reflection, and moments of pop culture all living in the same space. 🤍 For Jon. Always loved. Always remembered. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) She’s back — and this one feels extra special. We’re talking with the real Sundance Lisa — and yes, we’re having a little fun with that. 😉 While Lisa Barlow jokingly dubbed herself “Sundance Lisa”, our Sundance Lisa has been doing this for 16 years, first coming on our radio show back in the day and becoming a true Sundance staple ever since. This year hits different. It’s the final Sundance Film Festival in Utah before it heads to Boulder next year — and Lisa absolutely went out with a bang. From celebrity encounters to behind-the-scenes stories, she shares what this closing chapter feels like after so many unforgettable festivals. And then there’s life. It sounds like Lisa may have found romance — and not the messy kind. The way she talks about it, it feels healthy, kind, and genuinely good. We couldn’t be happier for her. Lisa is hilarious, quick, warm, and just plain fun — which is why we’ve loved having her on the radio show and Frankie and Jess Podcast for nearly two decades. An era ending. A new chapter beginning. And one incredibly fun conversation with the real Sundance Lisa. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) The old narrative says that once kids hit their tween and teen years, they pull away — and parents just have to hope they come back around. But what if that’s not actually true? In this episode of the Frankie & Jess Podcast, we chat with Susan Caso, a licensed therapist, author, and mom of three with a 14-year age gap between her oldest and youngest. She’s parenting in real time through two completely different eras — and she’s seeing firsthand what’s changed. Susan is the author of The Parent‑Teen Connection: How to Build Lifelong Family Relationships (SusanCaso.com), a practical guide for building trust, connection, and emotional safety in families navigating the complexities of modern childhood and adolescence — and you can check it out on her site at susancaso.com or grab a copy here: The Parent‑Teen Connection on Amazon. You can also follow her insights on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/susan.caso/‍ — she’s sharing great resources and moments for parents there.  We talk about: Why teens still need their parents — maybe more than ever Why parents don’t need to “back off,” but rather pivot How one-word answers aren’t rejection — and why we shouldn’t take them personally Why timing matters (car rides vs. play vs. late-night chats) Phones, social media, and the pressure kids feel to not be “less than” Why vulnerability can actually feel risky to kids — and why emotional safety matters more How fear of disappointing parents can quietly shut kids down This episode is for parents who care deeply, feel unsure at times, and want to build a foundation their kids will actually come back to. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) Sometimes the magic happens when you stop worrying about how things will work out. Nashville trips, good food, ice cream stops, candle-making nights, and friendships… to the moments that remind us how fragile and meaningful life really is. We talk about the importance of community and connection (especially for men), why we’re not meant to do life alone, and how energy—good or bad—has a ripple effect on the people around us. Frankie opens up about a scary few days when his mom was hospitalized with COVID, the fear that comes with watching a loved one struggle, and the gratitude that follows when things turn around. We also share some good things: home updates, hockey games, and Axel scoring his very first game goal—plus a real conversation about parenting, pressure, and letting kids love what they love without forcing the outcome. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) From a truly unbelievable school story involving raisins (that absolutely were not raisins), to navigating how much fear is too much when warning our kids about the world, to why a sweatpants proposal might actually say more about love than a perfectly staged one. If you’ve ever questioned whether something “wasn’t good enough,” this conversation might hit closer than you expect. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) This Showpourri episode features a mix of past conversations that stuck with us. ✈️ Pilot Jason (Originally published Feb 13, 2025) A fascinating conversation about aviation and the air-disaster stories in the news. Jason has even piloted the very aircraft involved in a recent DC incident, offering rare firsthand insight into what really happens in the cockpit. 👟 Jonathan Millar – Sneaker & Cleat Designer (Originally published Feb 26, 2025) An inspiring conversation about turning passion into a business. Jonathan shares his journey in design, creativity, and men’s mental health — even if you’re not a sneakerhead, this one hits. 🧠 Brian Morris (Flight Deck) (Originally published Mar 12, 2025) A true mod-podge episode covering fear of flying, panic attacks, sugar addiction, OnlyFans, Shark Tank, Naked & Afraid, beardaments, and more — honest, funny, and unexpectedly deep. 🏁 Lori & Scott – The Amazing Race (Originally published Mar 19, 2025) Ever wonder what it’s really like to be on The Amazing Race? Lori and Scott share behind-the-scenes stories and everything they’re contractually allowed to tell from their season. Different conversations. One Showpourri episode. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) This episode is a little bit of everything... We dive into reality TV chaos abroad, Stranger Things theories that have our minds spinning, and a listener email that reminds us why this podcast exists in the first place. We talk about being “gone” without being gone, finding your people again, and how word of mouth (and Reddit) can still be powerful. Plus, DoorDash stories ranging from spilled milkshakes to standout humans, parenting through senior-year emotions, and an Am I the A-Hole? that hits anyone who’s ever had a roommate who didn’t respect boundaries — especially the fridge kind. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) Frankie and Jess react to a moment that sparked a lot of conversation online — Cher appearing on Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard and Kristen Bell. During the episode, Cher made a comment suggesting she didn’t see what Kristen sees in Dax — and that she thought Kristen could “do better.” Frankie and Jess unpack why honesty without boundaries can still be hurtful, the difference between private concern and public commentary, and why saying something out loud — especially in front of a spouse — hits differently than simply thinking it. They also explore power dynamics, age, protectiveness, addiction recovery, and why being blunt doesn’t automatically mean being right. A conversation about respect, accountability, and knowing when something crosses the line. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) Some people don’t change — they just get a new environment. In this episode, we sit down with Keirstyn and Tiffany from The Relationship Recovery to unpack their real-life proximity to Candace Rivera, a woman whose public image, influence, and storytelling convinced an entire community — and left real damage behind. They walk us through: How manipulation doesn’t end with arrest What it looks like when someone never takes accountability The abuse cycle playing out in friendships, nonprofits, and communities — not just romantic relationships Love bombing, power, influence, and emotional coercion Why good people miss red flags when real good is mixed in with real harm This conversation includes firsthand observations, moments that didn’t feel right at the time, and reflections shaped by listening to Unicorn Girl — where even they learned new, disturbing details. This isn’t about diagnosing anyone. It’s about recognizing patterns, protecting yourself, and understanding how charisma and mission-driven work can be weaponized. https://www.instagram.com/therelationshiprecovery?igsh=ZHljeW52dG5rcTA3 @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) This episode is a little bit of everything — the way real life is. We kick things off with one of the best mindset reframes we’ve heard in a long time: when your heart starts racing before trying something new… maybe that’s not panic. Maybe it’s inner applause — your body cheering you on. From there, it’s a classic catch-up: a (minor) “no spoilers” slip-up, what they’ve been watching lately, and a rundown of life happenings — including a fascinating breathwork session that dives into why how we breathe matters more than we think. Frankie shares a parent moment from Axel’s hockey game: unfair calls, confusing whistles, a talented kid on the other team… and the reminder we all need — you can’t control every call, but you can control what you bring next shift. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) In this end-of-week episode of the Frankie and Jess Podcast, we dive into listener questions, honest confessions, and the kind of real-life advice most of us wish we’d heard sooner. We talk about social anxiety and small talk exhaustion, the fear of being alone, and what it really takes to put yourself out there — especially when vulnerability feels risky. From dating later in life and coffee-first meetups to understanding where fear comes from, they unpack how self-awareness and timing play a huge role in relationships. The conversation also covers practical advice around money and adulthood — saving early, compound interest, buying real estate sooner, and learning not to let fear stop you from taking smart chances. Frankie shares lessons passed down from his dad about missed investment opportunities and why those stories shaped how he approaches risk today. They also touch on college costs and resources like BookSprice.com, a tool for finding cheaper textbook rentals using ISBN numbers, and why small decisions can add up to big savings over time. A reminder that most of us are just figuring it out as we go. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) In this episode of the Frankie and Jess Podcast, we dive into one of those conversations that quietly stays with you long after it ends. We talk about energy — how everything carries it, how clutter affects us, and why you don’t need a new life… just more presence in the one you’re living. From powerful reminders about being kinder to yourself to small resets that actually make a difference, the conversation naturally unfolds into something deeper. The episode takes a meaningful turn as we share a list of things to do with your mom while she’s still alive — from recording her voice and laughter, to learning the little habits she passed down without even realizing it. Frankie shares a simple moment he still does every time he buys eggs at the grocery store — something his mom taught him years ago — and why those small memories end up meaning everything. They reflect on aging parents, grandparents, the reality that there are no warnings when time starts running out, and why capturing voices, stories, and moments now matters more than we think. There’s laughter, emotion, TV talk (Landman, Billy Bob Thornton), life advice they wish they could give their younger selves, and a simple truth that keeps resurfacing: One day, you’ll miss this version of you. @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(Disclaimer: Adult language and content.) Happy New Year — and welcome officially to year two of the Frankie & Jess Podcast. In this episode, we reflect on how this podcast began as an audio diary during one of the biggest transitions of our lives — and how simply talking things out became therapy in real time. We get honest about growth, accountability, and the difference between going to therapy and actually doing the work. We talk about: Why checking the box isn’t the same as real change “Wearing therapy like a badge” vs. seeing real growth Watering your tree — and why growth always shows fruit Accountability, patterns, and pointing the finger back at yourself Why age isn’t the excuse we think it is when it comes to health and self-work We also shift gears into something a little lighter (but just as meaningful): the Stranger Things series finale. One of us watched it on the big screen in a packed theater on New Year’s Day — crowds, reactions, emotions and all. The other watched it quietly at the cabin, late at night, the way it’s always been: just us, no distractions. We talk about: Theater vs. couch viewing Why crowd energy can change the experience Family traditions tied to long-running shows Nostalgia, series finales, and letting characters win Why some stories are better watched at home @listentofrankieandjess on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/listentofrankieandjess?igsh=MXhmam9maWJ5emczdA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr @listentofrankieandjess on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@listentofrankieandjess?_t=ZT-8xrjEduwb6r&_r=1 @Frankieslc on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/frankieslc?igsh=MWl4NjVubHZ0MTN2Zw== @jessfergie14 on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jessfergie14?igsh=dWhnMzBkdWludGVl @frankieslc on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@frankieslc?_t=ZT-8xrjZu12GVB&_r=1 @jessfergie14 on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@jessfergie14?_t=ZT-8xrjeo4YzAz&_r=1 Thanks to Salt Lake's own Super Bubble for the music on The Frankie and Jess Podcast! SuperBubbleBand.com Please Support Our Sponsors: Tell them, Frankie and Jess sent you! vwsouthtowne.com softminkyblankets.com (FrankieandJess50 for 50 percent off regular priced items) utahfacialplastics.com lifetime.com cottonwoodgarage.net redriverhealthandwellness.com gohebervalley.com fearfactoryslc.com connecthomeservice.com Mention FrankieandJess to save 10% mintmadeskincare.com mintsushiut.com justingredients.com FrankieandJess10 code to save 10% modernandchicboutique.com use our code frankieandjess (all lower case) beehivedisastercleanup.com flydancefitness.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices