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"Everybody says we want more affordable housing... at the same time, they don't want to see anything new." On this episode of Most Modern - a podcast about the built environment - Alex talks with Jesse Batus, Senior Vice President of Real Estate Development at The Community Builders (TCB), one of the largest nonprofit developers in the country, building across 15 states and Washington, DC. We get past the buzzword and into the machinery: the real definition of affordability (no more than 30% of income), why construction now runs "upwards of $500,000 per unit," how NIMBYism and delay quietly drive up costs, and why "time kills all deals." Jesse walks through the ground game - from a food-desert grocery store and hundreds of new apartments in Schenectady's Hamilton Hill, to the desegregation history behind Yonkers, to transit-oriented projects like Park Haven in the Bronx (with BronxWorks and a FRESH grocery store) and a childcare-anchored development in Far Rockaway. We also cover the plumbing nobody sees: the 10-11 layer capital stacks behind a single deal, the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit, the starvation of public housing, resilient design in a flood zone, and why good affordable housing should be indistinguishable from market-rate. The throughline: housing is the platform everything else - childcare, school, work, stability - is built on. Chapters: 00:00 - "Affordability is not a dirty word" 00:14 - Who is TCB, and what does a nonprofit developer do? 02:02 - What "affordability" actually means (the 30% rule vs. the human version) 04:49 - Affordability = stability: staying in your school district, near work 05:32 - The headwinds: construction costs, inflation, interest rates, NIMBYism 07:00 - "City of Yes" and unlocking supply through zoning 08:11 - How delay and sentiment get baked into the final cost per unit 10:55 - Turning detractors into participants: the Yonkers "Show Me a Hero" story 14:32 - Building on the edges: Park Haven (Mott Haven, Bronx) and Far Rockaway 17:46 - Where affordable housing belongs: transit-oriented development 18:43 - Build everywhere, or build thoughtfully? The abundance question 21:01 - Why a unit costs $500,000: land, electrification, prevailing wage 22:58 - The 10-11 source capital stack and the LIHTC explained 26:20 - Why affordable housing is so hard to create, in four forces 26:43 - Public housing, HOPE VI, NYCHA and the PACT program 30:39 - Design: what should affordable housing look like? 32:44 - Resiliency, healthy materials, and the "wow factor" 34:27 - TCB's "secret sauce": the Community Life department 36:31 - The future: from NIMBY to YIMBY, and "a rising tide lifts all boats" Key takeaways: - "Affordability" has a technical definition (30% of income) and a human one - groceries, a modest vacation, better schools for your kids. - Housing is the platform - stability, childcare, and proximity to work all flow from it. - Cost, not intent, is the hardest constraint: ~$500K/unit in dense, electrified, high-code markets like NYC. - Time kills deals - delay and duplicative studies compound into real dollars. - Good affordable housing should be seamless with market-rate. People should be proud to live there. About the guest: Jesse Batus is Senior Vice President of Real Estate Development (NY & NJ) at The Community Builders, where he has worked since 2007. Web: https://tcbinc.org/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-batus-766739b/ About the show: Most Modern is a podcast about the built environment - the people, economics, and design shaping how and where we live. #AffordableHousing #BuiltEnvironment #RealEstateDevelopment #Housing #UrbanPlanning #YIMBY #Architecture

Small multifamily housing is illegal and too expensive to build. Architect Sam Naylor breaks down the building code reforms that could unlock the "missing middle." We know zoning blocks housing. The quieter, equally powerful force is the building code. the invisible rulebook on stairs, sprinklers, and elevators that almost nobody outside the trade ever reads. When a project crosses from two units to three, it leaves the residential code and enters the "commercial" code, where a triple decker answers to nearly the same rules as a skyscraper. Sam Naylor, co-founder of the design firm Nominal, practicing architect, and adjunct faculty at the University of Minnesota, returns to walk through his new report with Boston Indicators (with support from the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies). It's a working map of why three-to-twenty-four-unit buildings stopped getting built, and a menu of fixes. What you'll get: Who this is for: architects, planners, housing advocates, and small developers who keep running into the same invisible wall and want to know where to push. Chapters:00:00 - Meet Sam Naylor and His Code Report00:59 - What "Small Multifamily" Really Means03:14 - Building Code vs. Zoning Code06:00 - The Sprinkler Requirement Problem08:12 - How America Ended Up With Two Codes13:01 - Missing Middle: Everyone's Missing16:05 - Why We Only Build Five-Over-Ones18:08 - The One-Third Cost Jump21:32 - Code Hacking Around the Rules24:17 - Syncing Zoning and Building Code29:12 - Digging Out: Sprinklers and Elevators39:51 - A Vision for Shorter, Denser Cities Resources:

Los Angeles urban development faces severe housing scarcity and bureaucratic strain while pioneering polycentric node architecture across 88 cities.Los Angeles attracts creative talent with its promise of personal reinvention, yet physical boundaries and rigid municipal codes hold its built environment static. Developers face multi-year entitlement delays and fractured county leadership while trying to expand housing and fortify against rising wildfire risks. Resolving this urban dilemma requires moving past single-family sprawl toward large-scale destination planning.Architect Alex Yuen and co-host Libo Li examine the physical and administrative friction blocking Los Angeles urban development with guest Sam Pepper, principal at Padaro Development Group and host of the Building LA podcast. Designed for practicing architects and architecture students, this episode evaluates how LA can transition from car-centric sprawl into a network of high-density destination nodes.### Key Takeaways* Spanish-style courtyard apartments and bungalow courts offer manageable middle-scale density without destroying single-family neighborhood character.* Administrative fragmentation across 88 distinct cities in LA County creates conflicting zoning interpretations that stall entitlement processes for years.* Los Angeles operates as a coarse-grained polycentric matrix where real estate value concentrates in destination nodes rather than continuous walkable streets.* Cohesive commercial nodes require single-developer anchors or unified property ownership, whereas fragmented parcel ownership leads to retail corridor decay.* Building along urban-wildland interfaces requires structural fortification against inevitable wildfire threats rather than attempting complete hazard elimination.### Who This Is ForArchitects, urban planners, real estate developers, and architecture students analyzing municipal housing policy, polycentric master planning, and climate-resilient design.### Episode Chapters00:00 - Why Los Angeles Resists Transformation01:03 - From London Architecture to LA Development04:53 - Hollywood Cachet and South Bay Aerospace07:43 - Physical Constraints and Byzantine Bureaucracy12:38 - County Governance and 88 Competing Cities18:11 - Managing Encampments and Wildfire Threats19:55 - Courtyard Apartments and Manageable Density22:38 - Polycentric Nodes Versus Jane Jacobs Walks27:27 - Single-Developer Anchors and Asian Urbanism33:21 - Personal Expression and High-Wire Nature40:41 - Padaro Group's Destination Development Model44:47 - Optimism for Los Angeles's Urban Future ### Resources Mentioned * [Sam Pepper](https://www.linkedin.com/in/samhpepper/) * [Building LA Podcast](https://www.buildinglapodcast.com/) * [Padaro Development Group](https://www.padarodevelopment.com/) * [Norman Foster's Gherkin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gherkin) * [Lincoln Property Company](https://lpc.com/) * [The Grove](https://thegrovela.com/) * [The Row DTLA](https://www.rowdtla.com/) * [Larchmont Boulevard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larchmont,_Los_Angeles) * [Third Street Promenade](Third Street Promenade) * [Hudson Yards](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards,_Manhattan) ### Subscribe & Connect Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrp Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164 Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodern Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/most.podern LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/most-podern #LAArchitecture #UrbanDevelopment #MostPodern #UrbanPlanning #HousingDensity

Zoning codes run to 3,000 pages, contradict themselves, and change without warning — and right now, they're the single biggest reason most housing projects never leave a napkin. Recorded live at World of Modular 2026, this episode brings in Avi Kaufman, co-founder and Chief Real Estate Officer of FutureLot, to unpack what it actually takes to answer "what can I build here?" across 30,000 US jurisdictions. Avi started with a light-bulb moment during refugee resettlement — a carriage house behind a main house, housing a family no one knew could be housed there — and built a platform to make that question answerable at scale. **What we get into:** - The pre-feasibility gap: more housing projects die from discouragement than from bad economics — nobody's counting the permits never filed - Massachusetts alone has 200+ definitions of "gross floor area." Multiply that across 30,000 jurisdictions and you understand why builders stall - FutureLot's traffic-light system (green/yellow) tells builders whether a project clears each zoning criterion before a dollar goes to plans - Why the homeowner-builder conversation is broken — and how a shared interface changes "let me drive by" into a real-time answer at any US address - The tension between local zoning control and the tyranny of whoever has time to show up to meetings - What a customer who lives in the tool 4–5 hours a day looks like — and why that feedback loop is the product **Chapters:** - 00:00 — Intro: What FutureLot does - 00:50 — Origin story: Afghanistan, carriage houses, and untapped housing potential - 02:01 — Why zoning data, not building? - 03:35 — What real estate taught Avi: visuals and ease of use aren't nice-to-haves - 04:30 — Product walkthrough: the builder experience - 07:14 — The homeowner interface and what 8 minutes of dwell time means - 09:10 — Connector, not replacement: the role of FutureLot in the stack - 10:38 — 30,000 jurisdictions and the data complexity behind one screen - 12:11 — Two years in: the regulatory maze is worse than you think - 14:00 — Should we standardize zoning? The tension between local control and paralysis - 15:19 — AI + human review: how the sauce gets made - 16:28 — Trust mechanisms: overrides, alarms, source citations - 18:42 — The customer as collaborator: ground truth flows both ways - 20:30 — Roadmap: 50-state coverage, multifamily, lot splits - 21:07 — The inflection point: why now feels different - 22:18 — Find FutureLot **Find FutureLot:** - [futurelot.com](https://futurelot.com) — free account, 3 property searches - [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) - [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@FutureLot) - [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/tryfuturelot) - [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/company/futurelot) - [X / Twitter](https://x.com/futurelot) - [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/futurelot/) **Most Podern:** - [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrp) - [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164) - [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/most.podern) - [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodern)

The housing crisis is real. So why isn't modular construction fixing it? Dwayne Torrey is the Director of Construction and Infrastructure at CSA Group — the organization that writes the standards every builder, regulator, and manufacturer in Canada has to follow. He's been working at the intersection of modular construction and policy for seven years, and his answer might surprise you: the technology isn't the problem. The rulebook is. In this episode we get into how consensus standards actually get written, who's fighting in the room when they do, and why a 1972 document about school portables is still shaping how Canada builds homes today. 🔗 CSA Group: https://www.csagroup.org/ CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro1:20 What is CSA Group?3:45 Standards vs. regulation — what's the difference?6:30 Who sits in the room when the rules get written10:00 The modular construction problem nobody talks about14:15 CSA A277 — the standard that's been around since 197218:00 What the new structural design standard actually covers22:30 Certification — what it means and why it matters27:00 Why building officials are nervous about modular31:00 The education gap — who needs to learn what35:30 "Inflection point" — what this moment means for housing #modular #housingcrisis #construction

What happens when an architect stops designing one-off buildings and starts designing a system? Justin Brechtel is a licensed architect in California, principal of Iterate Architecture, and VP of Architecture at West Modular — and he's making the case that the way we deliver buildings is broken. Architects have spent decades reinventing the wheel on every project, slowly ceding their leadership role to developers and contractors. Justin's answer: treat architecture like a product. Build the bones once. Refine them like an iPhone. In this episode we get into what it actually looks like to embed architects on a factory floor, why talking to a modular manufacturer early can save your entire project, and why "slow is responsible" has quietly become one of the most expensive ideas in American cities. Links: Website: www.iterae.com Instagram: @iteraearchitecture https://www.westmodular.com/

Have you ever walked through a city and felt, almost physically, that it was too much or not enough? That feeling has a name. Alex Yuen, architect, urbanist, and host of Most Podern, calls it density appetite and it might be the most fundamental idea in urbanism that no one is talking about. From the way Tokyo reinvents itself decade after decade to the way San Francisco has quietly frozen itself in place, the cities we live in are a direct reflection of how much growth we're actually willing to stomach. This conversation unpacks how density works not just as a planning metric but as a deeply personal, political, and cultural force, one that shapes your rent, your commute, your neighborhood, and your quality of life. Whether you're a lifelong city dweller or someone who just moved out to the suburbs, you probably already have a density appetite. You just didn't know what to call it. Read the original essay that sparked the conversation on Alex's Substack, Dust to Density: https://www.dusttodensity.com/p/density-appetite Subscribe to Most Podern on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrpApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodernInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/most.podernLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/most-podern Keywords density, urban density, density appetite, city planning, housing policy, housing crisis, urbanism, urban design, NIMBY, NIMBYism, urban growth, zoning, ADU, accessory dwelling units, urban metabolism, Tokyo housing, San Francisco housing, Los Angeles housing, built environment, walkability, public transit, housing affordability, mixed-use development, floor area ratio, FAR, population density, city development, city life, suburb vs city, urban planning podcast, urban culture Chapters 00:00 Understanding Density Appetite03:02 Density in Urban Environments07:07 Comparing Density Appetite Across Regions10:12 California's Evolving Density Policies11:34 Metabolism of Urban Density14:48 Challenges of Density in American Cities18:27 Cultural Influences on Density Appetite19:33 Cultural Perspectives on Public Spaces21:24 Understanding Urban Density and Infrastructure23:38 The Complexity of Density Appetite25:39 Leadership in Urban Planning27:36 The Role of Architects in Politics28:24 Personal Experiences with Density32:14 Future Directions in Urban Density Discussions

If your city, office, or retail district feels emptier than it used to, it’s not just “remote work” or “online shopping.” It’s a deeper problem: digital convenience is quietly fueling loneliness—and the built environment is being forced to evolve. Winston Fisher argues the next era isn’t virtual-first…it’s a renewed fight for real-world connection. Winston (Managing Partner at Fisher Brothers, CEO of AREA15) breaks down why the future is physical—and what developers, operators, and city leaders get wrong when they treat real estate like a spreadsheet instead of a living platform. You’ll hear how AREA15 was designed as “real estate as content,” why programming is the true moat, and how brand + technology + operations can turn a space into an “always-on” destination. He also goes deep on authenticity, uncompromising standards, and why playing it safe is the real risk. https://www.fisherbrothers.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/winstonfisher/ https://area15.com/ Chapters00:00 – Programming as the Cure for Loneliness00:28 – Why the Built Environment Matters More Than 20 Years Ago01:56 – The “Future Is Physical” Moment (and Why Zoom Isn’t Enough)03:54 – Physical + Digital: The Overlay That Actually Works04:41 – “Real Estate as Content”: What Great Space Feels Like06:17 – Profit vs. Purpose: The Honest Economics of Real Estate08:47 – How Developers Decide the “Qualitative” Choices10:28 – Inside AREA15: The Original Bet and the Creative Thesis12:24 – The 30-Acre Campus: Art-Forward Entertainment as a New Category13:16 – Concrete Examples: Meow Wolf, John Wick, Barbie Cafe + More14:23 – The Big Surprise: Scale, Stitching, and Diversified Entertainment15:47 – Why Programming Became the Secret Weapon17:08 – Owner-Operator Advantage: Owning the Guest Journey18:15 – Brand as Real Estate’s Hidden Multiplier19:39 – From Box to Platform: Tech + Ops + Real Estate Working Together22:18 – Taking the Model to Other Cities (and What Must Change)24:18 – Why Being a Conformist Is the Real Risk29:28 – Authenticity Is Hard: The Internal Fight Against “Shortcuts”32:21 – Can AREA15 Work Outside Vegas (or Go Vertical in Manhattan)?37:10 – Fixing Downtowns: Cities Need a Vision Big Enough to Anchor41:09 – 30 Years From Now: A Healthier Relationship With Technology44:13 – The Algorithm of Humanity: Why Live Experiences Will Surge46:13 – Where to Find Winston + AREA15

Every year, 12 million tons of architectural glass from skyscrapers and office buildings ends up in landfills. Even though you diligently put your glass bottles in the recycling bin, only 30% of collected glass actually gets recycled back into glass. Sydney Mainster, VP of Sustainability at The Durst Organization, is on a mission to change that. After watching hundreds of tons of perfectly recyclable glass from a 40-story building go to waste, she pioneered a partnership to recycle skyscraper windows across New York City. In this episode, Sydney and David Entwistle (Director of Major Projects at Saint-Gobain Glass) reveal: - Why glass is the ONLY material recyclers lose money on - The hidden contamination problem that shuts down $40M furnaces - How "sneaky sustainability" is making glass recycling standard practice - Why interior office glass is the secret to scaling this solution - The roadblocks preventing this from going national Sydney and David are completely reimagining how we handle one of our most valuable building materials. 🔗 Connect with Sydney Mainster: https://www.linkedin.com/in/smainster/🔗 Connect with David Entwistle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-entwistle-b51b2531/ Chapters 00:00 Circular Economy in Glass Recycling00:37 Roles and Responsibilities in Sustainability00:54 The Glass Recycling Challenge07:37 Understanding Architectural Glass vs. Container Glass16:15 Origin Stories of Glass Recycling Programs27:03 Collaboration and Learning in the Industry31:30 The Journey of Deconstruction and Sustainability33:37 Overcoming the Status Quo in Construction35:12 Convincing Stakeholders for Sustainable Practices38:40 The Role of Case Studies in Advocacy40:19 Scaling Challenges in Sustainability43:46 Looking Forward: The Future of Sustainability

What if a powerful climate solution in cities isn’t a new building, but the roof that’s already there? As heat waves intensify across Europe, architect and MIT-trained educator Olivier Faber explains how his firm, Roofscapes is transforming overlooked rooftops into cooling, accessible, green infrastructure. Starting with Paris’s iconic zinc roofs, the conversation unpacks why existing buildings are misaligned with today’s climate, how shading and vegetation can dramatically reduce indoor temperatures without air conditioning, and why renovation and adaptation may matter more than new construction in the decades ahead. Along the way, Olivier reveals the political, technical, and cultural battles behind testing climate solutions in historic cities, and why climate adaptation is about changing how we value the buildings we already have. Thumbnail Image courtesy of Roofscapes Subscribe to Most Podern on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrpApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodernInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/most.podernLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/most-podern Keywords architecture, climate change, renovation, urban design, sustainability, Roofscapes, green roofs, preservation, adaptation, building practices, Paris, urban design, heat island effect Chapters 00:00 Background and Journey into Architecture 00:51 Exploring Alternative Architecture Practices 03:52 Introducing Roofscapes and Its Mission 06:17 Physical Adaptation: Before and After 07:16 The Challenges of Zinc Roofs in Urban Design 10:29 Innovative Solutions for Urban Heat Management 11:34Pitching Green Roof Solutions to Building Owners 14:08 Navigating the Complexities of Building Regulations 17:14 Measuring the Impact of Climate Adaptation Projects 24:09 Future Directions for Climate Adaptation in Architecture Links Olivier Faber - https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivier-faber Roofscapes - https://www.roofscapes.studio/MITx - https://mitxonline.mit.edu/

The American suburban dream is unsustainable—but we're not giving up on it. David Kooris, Executive Director of the Connecticut Municipal Development Authority and lecturer at Yale, explains why sprawl no longer works as an economic engine and how we can retrofit existing suburbs to be more prosperous, walkable, and sustainable. In this episode, we explore:✓ Why the suburban development model is fiscally unsustainable✓ How to transform aging strip malls into thriving town centers✓ The art of community engagement that builds consensus (not opposition)✓ Why making car-dependent places walkable has more impact than you think✓ Planning concepts everyone should understand about their built environment https://www.wearecmda.com/ Chapters 00:00 The Impetus for Urban Planning00:00 Understanding the Role of Municipal Development00:00 Examples of Community Engagement00:00 David Kooris's Background and Insights00:41 The Importance of Long-Term Planning00:41 Retrofitting Suburban Landscapes00:41 Strategies for Community Improvement00:41 Engaging Future Residents in Development Conversations00:41 The Importance of Diverse Stakeholder Engagement00:41 Overcoming Community Resistance to Change00:41 Planning 101: Essential Concepts for Community Engagement00:41 Understanding the Complexities of the Built Environment00:41 Streamlining Community Engagement in Planning00:41 Innovative Approaches to Municipal Development00:41 Reflecting on the Current Era of Urban Planning

What hidden design choices make a 125,000-person festival feel effortless—and what happens when being off by just one foot throws everything into chaos? Why do some festivals become cultural icons while others collapse spectacularly? And how did one architect watching the Fyre Festival documentary suddenly realize, “I could do this a million times better”—and then actually go do it? In this episode, Reiko Wei, design production manager at Goldenvoice (the team behind Coachella & Stagecoach), pulls back the curtain on the invisible systems, political negotiations, spatial puzzles, and human-centered decisions that shape the world’s most iconic music festivals. She reveals how a show built on 1200 acres needs precision down to a single foot, why the fire marshal has the ultimate power, how Gen Z is reshaping festival culture, and why physical spaces for real connection matter more than ever in a post-COVID world. If you’ve ever wondered how a “giant party” becomes a safe, seamless, deeply human experience—or why these events still matter—this conversation will change how you see every festival you attend. https://goldenvoice.com/ https://www.coachella.com/ https://www.stagecoachfestival.com/ Chapters 00:00 Understanding Coachella: The Festival Experience03:19 The Role of Logistics in Event Planning06:41 Reiko's Transition from Architecture to Event Planning10:10 Collaboration with Authorities and Stakeholders13:35 The Evolution of Coachella: Adapting to Change17:00 Designing for Experience: The Importance of Flow21:15 The Art of Curation in Festivals25:02 Shifting Audience Dynamics Post-COVID27:11 The Importance of In-Person Connections30:43 Navigating Loneliness and Community31:51 Reflections on the Current Era

How do we build faster, smarter, and more affordably in a world running out of patience and running short on skilled labor? Tom Hardiman, Executive Director of the Modular Building Institute, joins Alex Yuen and Libo Li to explain how modular construction can reshape the built environment. From cutting construction timelines in half to reducing waste and expanding access to housing, Tom shows why modular is not a trend but a practical tool for a more sustainable, efficient, and inclusive future. The conversation unpacks the realities behind factory based building, the politics that slow adoption, and how modular can help cities facing affordability and capacity challenges. Subscribe to Most Podern on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrpApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodernInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/most.podernLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/most-podern Keywords modular construction, prefab housing, offsite construction, Modular Building Institute, MBI, Tom Hardiman, affordable housing solutions, housing crisis, construction technology, manufacturing in construction, sustainable building, prefabricated buildings, industrialized construction, factory-built homes, housing innovation, construction efficiency, future of construction, how to build faster, Most Podern podcast Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Modular Construction 00:53 Defining Modular Construction 02:02 Benefits of Modular Construction 04:59 The Ecosystem of Modular Construction 06:51 Coordination in Modular Projects 08:20 Cost Considerations in Modular Construction 09:53 The Importance of Time in Construction 11:30 Architects and Modular Construction 12:53 Successful Modular Projects 14:38 Addressing Design Concerns in Modular Construction 17:32 Standardization vs. Customization 19:45 Regulatory Challenges in Modular Construction 20:50 Education and Resources for Modular Construction 21:13 The Role of Education in Modular Construction 24:27 Attracting Young Talent to Modular Construction 28:32 Barriers to Adoption of Modular Construction 30:56 Navigating Politics and Labor Relations 34:51 Integrating Traditional and Modular Construction 37:52 The Future of Modular Construction 40:12 Upcoming Events and Community Engagement Links Tom Hardimanlinkedin.com/in/tomhardiman Modular Building Institute (MBI) https://www.modular.org/ World of Modular Conference https://www.modular.org/wom/ MBI Research and Resources https://www.modular.org/resources/

Why does building “affordable” housing cost so much in the built environment? From land prices to loan rates, construction inflation to endless permitting, Alex and Libo break down the true costs of creating homes and why the system often works against the very people it is meant to help. They unpack how financing, regulation, and risk collide, what makes America’s housing model unique, and what simple reforms could unlock more livable and affordable cities for everyone. Subscribe to Most Podern on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrpApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodernInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/most.podernLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/most-podern Keywords affordable housing crisis, built environment, housing policy, real estate development, construction costs, architecture, urban design, cities, zoning reform, housing finance, interest rates, pro forma explained Chapters 00:00 Understanding Affordable Housing Costs02:29 The Role of Pro Forma in Housing Development05:49 Financing Affordable Housing Projects09:58 Impact of Rising Costs on Housing Development16:18 Government's Role in Affordable Housing20:29 Streamlining the Permitting Process23:13 Changing Perspectives on Housing Development

What happens when you run an architecture studio inside a refugee settlement — and let refugees lead it? Scott Key (founder/CEO of Every Shelter) is back to break down how a 10-week “design school” in Nakivale turned buzzwords like “co-creation” into actual, working solutions — cow-dung bricks that survive soaking, shelter-wide mosquito netting, and quality water that families can afford. Why it matters: Refugees are displaced for 20+ years — which means they need permanent, local, extremely affordable building solutions. This episode shows how design unlocks what’s already on the ground: clay, ag waste, community trust, and good design. LinksDonate to Support Every Shelter’s WorkEvery Shelter Our Last Episode with Scott Youtube*:* https://youtu.be/60d198yrKcY?feature=shared Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3iVzLi6aF5SV1K7WaVayT4?si=P2-DFU3_QNKP9c_XFxUEFQ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/designing-dignity-how-scott-key-and-every-shelter-are/id1725756164?i=1000702692254 Chapters 00:00 Running an Architecture Studio in a Refugee Camp02:53 Pitching the Idea to Students and Stakeholders02:53 Introduction to the Program and Partnerships05:13 Setting the Stage: The First Day of Design School07:54 Curriculum and Transformation: Learning by Doing10:20 Innovative Projects: Cow Poop and Mud Bricks12:41 Community Engagement: Addressing Local Needs15:30 Water Quality Solutions: BioSand Filters18:18 Empowerment through Entrepreneurship: Offer Letters and Business Models20:39 Feedback and Iteration: Learning from the Community22:51 The Role of Donors and Future Directions25:08 Looking Ahead: Optimism for Human Connection