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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.

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Ep 202 — From Atari to NVIDIA: We Don’t Care, We Don’t Have To!
2026/02/06
Andrew flies solo on today’s show, which… coincidentally features a bunch of law from the 1980s. Learn how a 1981 advertisement for a soon-to-be defunct video game system shaped the law of copyright into what it is today after Atari sued Magnavox to pull a Pac-Man clone off the shelves. In the second story, we talk about the death of antitrust law. What once broke up the phone company’s monopoly is now so defanged that just two companies control almost all of the components that go into your PC. Oh, and the phone company basically reassembled itself. The computer graphics monopoly set us on the path where computer are rented, not owned. And taking advantage of that was a company that targeted teenagers who want the latest and greatest gaming rig (but can’t afford it). Learn about the consumer fraud lawsuit, potential settlement, and the future of computers. Have we gone backwards since the 1980s? (Yes.) Check out the independent reporting of Steve Burke at GamersNexus. Atari, Inc. v. North American Philips Consumer Electronics Corp., 672 F.2d 607 (1982) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16433139020722034724 Burns v. Fragile, Inc. [docket via CourtListener] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.454102/ Steve Burke, GamersNexus YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@GamersNexus Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 201 — Ed Martin, Don’t Let That Doorknob Split Ya!
2026/02/03
DOCKET ALERTS: We bid a fond goodbye to Ed Martin … well, fond-ish. Liam Ramos, the little boy kidnapped by ICE in Minneapolis along with his father is back home after a judge in Texas granted his habeas petition. Read the scathing order here. Judge Jia Cobb re-imposed a temporary restraining order barring DHS from excluding legislators from immigrant detention facilities.  Two immigrant rights groups challenged ICE’s homebrew arrest warrants. The Trump administration finally got that perp walk of Don Lemon. Two weeks ago, a federal magistrate refused to issue an arrest warrant for Lemon, Minnesota journalist Georgia Fort, and three others who were present at the MLK Day protest at a church whose pastor David Easterbrook is an ICE supervisor. Now a grand jury has indicted all eight of the DOJ’s original targets. Chief Judge Jeffrey Sutton of the Sixth Circuit dropkicked the DOJ’s judicial ethics complaint against Chief Judge James Boasberg of the US District Court in DC. The complaint is based on leaked notes from a closed judicial conference in March, which Law and Chaos is suing to kick loose under FOIA. The Signalgate administration says it has no idea how this judicial record wound up on its servers.  Liz and Andrew sound off on Chief Justice Roberts forcing SCOTUS employees to sign NDAs. Donald Trump sues the IRS — it’s like suing himself, but you get to foot the bill. And we ponder whether Trump can legally burn down the Kennedy Center Make the Kennedy Center Great Again. Plus for subscribers: Andrew’s got a deep dive into the Death on the High Seas Act and the lawsuit filed by survivors of two men murdered in the Caribbean boat strikes. Justice Dept. demotes Ed Martin, stripping Trump ally of most authority https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/02/02/ed-martin-demoted-justice-department Liam Ramos Habeas Order https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172886492/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172886492.9.0_3.pdf TRO Enjoining DHS from Excluding Legislators From Immigration Facilities https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.283200/gov.uscourts.dcd.283200.52.0.pdf The Perp Walk Is The Point https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/the-perp-walk-is-the-point US v. Armstrong [Don Lemon Indictment] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.231103/gov.uscourts.mnd.231103.39.0_1.pdf DOJ Attacks Judge, Claims Judicial Immunity For Itself https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/doj-attacks-judge-using-leaked-doc Judge Sutton Dismissed DOJ Complaint Re Judge Boasberg https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/internet/judicial_complaints/files/2025/06-25-90173(Chad.MO.pdf Res Ipsa Media v. DOJ [L&C FOIA suit] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71236135/res-ipsa-media-llc-v-department-of-justice How the Supreme Court Secretly Made Itself Even More Secretive https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/02/us/supreme-court-nondisclosure-agreements.html Trump v. IRS https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172.1.0_4.pdf Boat Strike Complaint https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mad.294916/gov.uscourts.mad.294916.1.0_1.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 200 — JGG + CASA = CHAOS
2026/01/30
Docket Alerts: Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard led a raid on the Fulton County Election Hub and Operating Center in Atlanta. ProPublica got the warrant. Mo Ivory, a Democratic commissioner for Fulton County, breaks it down on Instagram. In Chicago, Marimar Martinez has moved to unseal evidence from DOJ’s failed effort to prosecute her for getting shot by ICE. Reuters reports that Marcos Charles, the top official in ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations division, issued new guidance instructing ICE to target only immigrants who have been arrested or convicted of crimes. This would be a huge improvement, but DHS won’t comment. Main Show: Once again, this is all the Supreme Court’s fault. Specifically, its rulings in J.G.G. v. Trump and Trump v. CASA led directly to the mayhem in Minnesota. First the Court forced immigrants challenging their detention to file thousands of individual habeas cases. And then they drastically limited the power of federal judges to issue relief when it “discovered” that nationwide injunctions are illegal.  The Trump administration took this as an invitation to break the law, irrespective of how many courts tell them not to, on the theory that CASA means precedent doesn’t count any more. DHS dummied up a memo saying that actually everyone without a green card must be held indefinitely. This is a gross misstatement of the law, as literally hundreds of courts have already ruled. But the Trump administration says because of CASA, they can continue to lock up people who’ve lived here for decades, checking in with DHS, working, paying taxes, and taking care of their families. Judges are deluged with habeas petitions, which differ from each other only in the particulars of the cruelty being visited upon the individual immigrant. After ICE failed to obey a court order to release a habeas petitioner, Chief Judge Patrick Schiltz in the District Court of Minnesota ordered Todd Lyons, the Acting Director of ICE, to either release the guy or show up and explain why he shouldn’t be held in contempt of court.  ICE released the petitioner, but Judge Schiltz was still furious. He published a list of 96 violations of court orders in January alone — and that’s only in Minnesota! Thanks, Chief Justice Roberts! On the plus side, Judge Schiltz’s colleague Judge John Tunheim issued a TRO ordering ICE to release every refugee detained under the erroneous memo and quit kidnapping them and spiriting them away to Texas. And for subscribers, we’ll discuss the Ninth Circuit’s ruling that bars Kristi Noem from unilaterally canceling temporary protected status for a million Venezuelans and Haitians. Hundreds of judges reject Trump’s mandatory detention policy, with no end in sight https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/05/trump-administration-immigrants-mandatory-detention-00709494 Fulton County Election Hub Warrant https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26513986-1-28-26-fulton-warrant/ Marimar Martinez Motion to Unseal https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ilnd.487595/gov.uscourts.ilnd.487595.100.0.pdf Exclusive: ICE officers in Minnesota directed not to interact with 'agitators' in new orders https://www.reuters.com/world/ice-officers-minnesota-directed-not-interact-with-agitators-new-orders-2026-01-29/ J.G.G. v. Trump https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf Trump v. CASA https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a884_8n59.pdf Tobay Robles v. Noem https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72120823/tobay-robles-v-noem Judge Tunheim TRO https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230526/gov.uscourts.mnd.230526.41.0.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 199 — Minnesota Nice Is Stronger Than ICE
2026/01/27
Hats off to Minnesota! The Twin Cities kicked Greg Bovino’s a** so hard he’s limping back to California and then retiring altogether. We’ll discuss the Trump administration’s apparent pivot on the invasion of Minneapolis and the many legal cases pending there. First up, Minnesota v. Noem, where the state is trying to convince Judge Katherine Menendez to order DHS out of Minneapolis. Their Tenth Amendment argument got a big boost from Attorney General Pam Bondi, who actually sent Governor Walz a letter offering to pull back ICE’s goons if the state would surrender its legal rights. Then we’ll discuss Minnesota’s lawsuit to preserve the evidence from the murder of Alex Pretti. The FBI says they’ve got it locked down, but Judge Eric Tostrud isn’t so sure. Finally we’ve got a deep dive into the DOJ’s effort to turn a protest at a church into a criminal conspiracy to oppress Christians. Show Links: Minnesota v. Noem  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72132615/state-of-minnesota-v-noem/?order_by=desc Bondi-Walz Letter https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230268/gov.uscourts.mnd.230268.114.1_1.pdf Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension v. Noem https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72185880/minnesota-bureau-of-criminal-apprehension-v-noem/ US vs SEALED [Nekima Levy-Armstrong] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72181995/united-states-v-sealed/?order_by=desc https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 198 — Kristi Noem’s Lawyers Are Making Sh*t Up
2026/01/23
An ICE whistleblower reveals a secret memo where DHS lawyers say agents can arrest people in their homes without a warrant. The Fourth Amendment says otherwise! And the Supreme Court’s conservatives were extremely unimpressed with Trump’s plan to fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook on Truth Social. We’ll break down Wednesday’s oral argument in detail but first, we’ve got approximately one million ... DOCKET ALERTS (Dun dun DUNNNN): Former Special Counsel Jack Smith testified before the House Judiciary Committee. Watch it for yourself here. The Justice Department arrested three people in relation to the protest on January 18 at Cities Church in St. Paul. Nothing has appeared on the docket, but the DOJ claims to have charged them under the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of 1994, meant to protect women seeking abortion care. The Eighth Circuit administratively stayed District Judge Katherine Menendez’s preliminary injunction barring DHS goons from brutalizing protesters. A jury in Chicago took just three hours to acquit a man of trying to hire someone to murder CBP’s head thug Greg Bovino. Don’t drunk text!  Donald Trump’s latest trollsuit targets JP Morgan Chase and its CEO Jamie Dimon. It’s filed in state court in Miami and seeks $5 billion for tortious debanking. Washington Post reporter Hannah Natanson secured a standstill order barring the government from looking at the computers and hard drives it seized from her house in Virginia as part of its investigation into classified leaks by government contractor Aurelio Luis Perez-Lugones.  The Fifth Circuit, sitting en banc, reheard a challenge to Louisiana’s HB71, which required every public school classroom to display the Ten Commandments. Background here. Judge Paul Engelmayer rebuffed a request by Reps. Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna to enforce the Epstein Files Transparency Act and order the government to disclose all materials on Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Remember this next time you hear some rightwing pundit railing against “activist judges.” And we bid a fond farewell to Lindsey Halligan, who finally quit trying to pass herself off as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. Well … fond-ish. After getting benchslapped by a federal judge and seeing her job posted online by the chief judge in EDVA, she finally took the hint. Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 197 — OBBBA the Hut
2026/01/20
Breaking! The president is bugf*** insane! But first … docket alerts. Dun-dun-DUNNNNN. We’ve reached the “yelling at chestnuts for being lazy” stage of the presidency, as Trump barks out ever-nuttier orders.  Meanwhile in Texas, Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk managed to moot the appeal of an LGBTQ+ student group at West Texas A&M which sued in 2023 to enjoin their school’s ban on drag shows. All he had to do was rush out an opinion in 48 hours saying that drag shows are not expressive conduct covered by the First Amendment. And lie about Fifth Circuit precedent! TG we have at least one good legal development, this time out of Minnesota! For the main show, we’ll break down the legal implications of Elon Musk building a chatbot in his own abusive troll image. Will the Take It Down Act put a stop to AI generation of deepfake CSAM and NCII?  Meanwhile over at the Department of Homeland Security, Secretary Kristi Noem and her minions are a wee smidge confused about the Fourth Amendment. If you can even believe it! But even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while. DHS wins a round against legislators seeking to inspect ICE detention facilities thanks to some creative accounting. But the victory may be short-lived.] And subscribers will get another visit with that Overstock.com weirdo Patrick Byrne, who managed to lose a defamation case against the most defamation-proof defendant in America. Guest starring: Stefanie Lambert. Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 196 — None of this sh*t is legal!
2026/01/16
The Trump administration’s war on Minnesota continues, and now the president is threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act. Clearly he thinks that is synonymous with declaring THE PURGE. But he’s wrong, and we’ll tell you why. Plus we’ve got good news(!) on California redistricting, green energy, and voting rights. Links: Tangipa v. Newsom [CA gerrymander] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.994285 The Atlantic Monthly v. Google [Google ad antitrust] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72135468/the-atlantic-monthly-group-llc-v-google-llc/ US v. Oregon [DOJ demands OR voter rolls] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71363789/united-states-v-state-of-oregon/ US v. Weber [DOJ demands CA voter rolls] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71452580/united-states-v-shirley-weber Minnesota v. USDA  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72074911/state-of-minnesota-v-united-states-department-of-agriculture/ Minnesota v. Noem https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72132615/state-of-minnesota-v-noem/?order_by=desc Tincher v. Noem https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72047643/tincher-v-noem/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 195 — Protect Jerome!
2026/01/13
Markets are freaked out about the DOJ’s threats to Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. And so are we! We’ve got a deep dive into a court order barring Trump from adding an extra-legal proof of citizenship requirement to voter registration forms and a breakdown of Illinois and Minnesota’s respective lawsuits against ICE and CBP. And for subscribers, we’ll explain why JD Vance’s claim that “Every president, Democrat or Republican, believes the War Powers Act is fundamentally a fake and unconstitutional law,” is utter BS. Links: Kelly v. Hegseth https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72131361/kelly-v-hegseth/ Neguse v. ICE https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70964222/neguse-v-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement New York v. Burgum [Nichols] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72126766/state-of-new-york-v-burgum/ New York v. Burgum [Lamberth] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72126847/state-of-new-york-v-burgum/ Federal prosecutor in Virginia fired after refusing to lead Comey case https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/12/us-attorney-virginia-fired-j Trump DOJ fires prosecutor who declined to pursue James Comey case https://www.ms.now/news/trump-doj-fires-prosecutor-who-declined-to-pursue-james-comey-case Washington v. Trump [Election EO] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69845185/state-of-washington-v-trump/ Illinois v. DHS https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72131845/state-of-illinois-v-department-of-homeland-security/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 194 — Justice For Renee Good?
2026/01/09
Congressional Republicans defect to support two Democratic resolutions. It’s not exactly a show of spine — maybe a vertebrae — but is it the beginning of something? Yet another US Attorney gets disqualified, this time in New York. Meanwhile Judges in Virginia wonder how it’s remotely ethical for Lindsey Halligan to present herself in court filings as a US Attorney. The DOJ is violating the Epstein Files Transparency Act. And what legal recourse is there for the family of Renee Good, who was executed by ICE officers in Minneapolis. Plus for subscribers: Dominion tries to get Mike Lindell and Patrick Byrne to STFU long enough to wind down their litigation. Links: War Powers Resolution https://www.kaine.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/dav25m71.pdf Massachusetts v. NIH [Indirect Costs] https://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/sites/ca1/files/opnfiles/25-1343P-01A.pdf American Hospital Association v. HHS [Drug Rebates] https://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/sites/ca1/files/opnfiles/25-2236O-01A.pdf In Re Grand Jury Subpoenas to the Office of the New York State Attorney General v. US [Disqualification US Atty NDNY] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71844954/in-re-grand-jury-subpoenas-to-the-office-of-the-new-york-state-attorney US v. Jefferson [Halligan signature challenge] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.586310 US v. Comey [4th Circuit appeal] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72065969/united-states-v-james-comey-jr/?order_by=desc US v. James [4th Circuit appeal] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72065734/united-states-v-letitia-james/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 193 — The Fog of War … Crimes
2026/01/06
On our first show back after the holidays, Brian Finucane, a senior advisor at the International Crisis Group, explains the legal ramifications of invading Venezuela and kidnapping its leader for “law enforcement.” We’ll break down the Supreme Court’s ruling eviscerating Trump’s effort to conscript National Guard troops to terrorize cities. And for subscribers, Justin Baldoni will once again teach us (how not to) CivPro. Links: Trump v. Illinois [Supreme Court] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a443_new_b07d.pdf Brian Finucane, Presidential War Powers, the Take Care Clause, and Article 2(4) of the UN Charter, Cornell Law Review (2020) https://live-cornell-law-review.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Finucane-final.pdf 1989 OLC Memorandum https://www.justice.gov/olc/opinion/authority-federal-bureau-investigation-override-international-law-extraterritorial-law US v. Commonwealth of Virginia [In-state tuition for immigrant children] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72085714/united-states-v-commonwealth-of-virginia/ JGG v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/?order_by=desc Lively v. Baldoni https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 192 — 2025 — It Was A Lot!
2025/12/23
We come full circle, discussing the most important cases of the year and what we expect to happen in 2026. Kilmar Abrego Garcia is home with his family. The Epstein files are out … sort of. Lindsey Halligan is out … again, sort of. And the Alien Enemies Act case that started it all, J.G.G. v. Trump, comes roaring back to life.  Links: US v. Abrego Garcia https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70476164/united-states-v-abrego-garcia US v. Dugan https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70255703/united-states-v-dugan US justice official leading prosecutions of minor crimes pleaded guilty to DUI https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/23/doj-official-dui Billups v. Louisville Municipal School District [Grok can make it worse!]  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68658788/billups-v-louisville-municipal-school-district US v. Abrego Garcia https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70476164/united-states-v-abrego-garcia/ J.G.G. v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/ Epstein Files Transparency Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 191 — Legal Journalism in the Age of Trump
2025/12/19
Liz and Andrew discuss the state of legal journalism. Trump is attacking the judiciary in the media — sometimes both at once. How is covering Trump different this time around? And what gives us hope for journalism and democracy? Plus: what’s going on in the trial of Wisconsin judge Hannah Dugan? Links: AllRiseNews.com US v. Dugan https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70255566/united-states-v-dugan/?order_by=desc America First Legal Foundation v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69924761/america-first-legal-foundation-v-roberts/?order_by=desc US v. James [Yet another botched no bill] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72052126/united-states-v-james/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 190 — How Many Things Did Chief Justice Roberts Break Today?
2025/12/16
What do the National Labor Relations Board, Blake Lively’s lawsuit against Justin Baldoni, and Lindsey Halligan have in common? They’re all swimming in the chaos soup cooked up by a Supreme Court that engages in motivated reasoning and jettisons precedent whenever it gets in the way. Eat up! Links:  Richman v. US https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71982634/richman-v-united-states/?order_by=desc Corporate Union Busting in Plain Sight, Economic Policy Institute, January 28, 2025 https://www.epi.org/publication/corporate-union-busting/ Amazon Services LLC v. New York State Public Employment Relations Board (New York Litigation) [docket via CourtListener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71421477/amazoncom-services-llc-v-new-york-state-public-employment-relations-board/ National Labor Relations Board v. State of California (California Litigaton) [docket via CourtListener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71657795/national-labor-relations-board-v-state-of-california/ National Trust for Historic Preservation v. National Parks Service https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72028010/national-trust-for-historic-preservation-in-the-united-states-v-national/ List of Trump Clemency Grants https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-donald-j-trump-2025-present US v. Abrego  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70475970/united-states-v-abrego-garcia/?order_by=desc Abrego Garcia v. Noem  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71191591/abrego-garcia-v-noem Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 189 — Who’s Suing The Government Today? EVERYBODY
2025/12/12
Today the government is getting sued by an app developer, Capitol Cops, FBI agents, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, California, Daniel Richman, Mike Flynn, and a boatload of January 6 rioters — although those last two are basically sham lawsuits seeking to raid the US Treasury with the help of President Treasonweasel. Two judges in DC seem perilously close to holding the DOJ in contempt. And for subscribers, the unbearable cognitive dissonance of Tina Peters. Links: NRSC v. FEC [SCOTUS Docket] https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-621.html Does v. Patel [wrongfully fired FBI agents] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72004388/does-v-patel/ Aaron v. Bondi [ICEBlock] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72003579/aaron-v-bondi/?order_by=desc Flynn v. US https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66930673/flynn-v-united-states/?order_by=desc Trump Pardoned Them for Jan. 6. Now They Want Millions of Dollars https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-10/trump-pardoned-them-for-jan-6-now-they-want-millions-of-dollars Richman v. US https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71982634/richman-v-united-states/?order_by=desc Newsom v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70496361/newsom-v-trump/?order_by=desc J.G.G. v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ep 188 — Habba Quits Job After Getting Fired In July
2025/12/09
Alina Habba has finally tapped out. No more cosplaying as US Attorney for New Jersey for her! Attorney General Pam Bondi promptly declared victory and vowed to appeal. But strangely that vow was not followed by any federal filings. Subscribers will get a deep dive into the Supreme Court’s wild hearing in Trump v. Slaughter, as they gleefully contemplated a world where the president staffs his entire administration with hacks. Links: Halligan Continues as U.S. Attorney, Prompting Criticism From Judges https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/05/us/politics/halligan-us-attorney-judiciary.html Oral Argument, Supreme Court, Trump v. Slaughter https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/25-332_p8k0.pdf J.G.G. v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/?order_by=desc Escobar v. Molina v. DHS https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71452519/escobar-molina-v-us-department-of-homeland-security/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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sirdonato 2025/07/25
Per se v per quod
I generally like this program. I listen regularly and followed it under its previous title. That said I feel like the explanation of “per se” and “p...
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Itinerant Botanist 2026/01/10
Excellent review of current events
I find Liz and Andrew’s coverage of topics superb. Yes, they are unapologetic lefties (as am I) so their opinions are left leaning. But what I appre...
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lying app 1 2025/12/23
I listen to every episode and read Liz’s posts between episodes
I listen to every episode and read Liz’s posts between episodes. I tried to become a member and my bank account was deducting the monthly fee for memb...
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elliemental 2025/12/10
So informative!
Liz and Andrew break down the week’s legal news, accessible to both lawyers and non-lawyers. It’s a clear and conversational approach to the critical...
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Sallyd1010 2025/08/20
Excellent and addictive
Liz Dye is a queen. Andrew is brilliant (They both are) and I throughly enjoy this podcast. But it’s really for intelligent folk. If you don’t like it...
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heumans 2025/05/27
A Must Listen
There are only 3 branches of government, so with a defenestrated Republican Congress it is up to the Judicial branch. This podcast keeps me up to date...
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Meredithium 2025/07/06
Law and Legal Analysis from an Unrepentant Sex Pest and His Enabler
Law breakdowns but AT did his victims and former cohost waaay dirty, and LD is fine with sweeping it all under the rug. Instead, go listen to Openi...
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Taralainee 2025/05/02
My fav
Liz Dye is a national treasure! Together, these two have the best law show! They’re wonderful!
FloraSara 2025/05/27
Sex Pest
Andrew Torres is a sex pest. Liz Dye is an enabler.
Blaseking 2025/05/25
Sex Pest
Andrew is an unrepentant sex pest and Liz is his enabler. Don’t support this pod.
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