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Faith Through Every Season: Trusting God When Life Changes | Bobbie Houston In Episode 158 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane welcome Bobbie Houston, author, speaker, and longtime Christian ministry leader, for a conversation about faith, perseverance, and holding tightly to Jesus through life's changing seasons. What does it look like to remain rooted in Christ when the road ahead looks nothing like you expected? How do you continue trusting God's goodness through disappointment, uncertainty, and seasons of transition? Bobbie Houston has spent decades encouraging women to grow in faith, discover their God-given purpose, and build lives centered on Jesus. In this episode, Jamie and Jane sit down with Bobbie to explore the importance of staying connected to God, finding strength in His Word, and remembering that our identity is ultimately found in Christ—not in our circumstances, accomplishments, or the opinions of others. Drawing on the themes of surrender, spiritual growth, and God's faithfulness, this conversation invites us to consider what it means to walk with Jesus when life is both beautiful and difficult. Whether you're navigating change, seeking renewed purpose, or simply needing encouragement to keep moving forward, this episode offers a reminder that God's presence is not limited to the easy seasons. Grab your coffee, pull up a chair, and join Jamie and Jane for a meaningful conversation about faith, hope, and the God who remains faithful. You belong at the table. Reflection Question: When God's plan doesn't look the way I expected, do I respond like Peter and try to take control, like Judas and turn away, or like Jesus and surrender to the Father's will? ____________________________________ Connect with Bobbie: Website: https://www.brianandbobbie.com/ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Where Do Your Loyalties Lie? Choosing Jesus When Faith Gets Tested | John 18:1–14 In Episode 157 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane continue their journey through the Gospel of John with John 18:1–14, where the story takes a dramatic turn. Jesus enters the Garden of Gethsemane, Judas arrives with soldiers to betray Him, and Peter reaches for his sword in an attempt to defend the One he loves. But in the middle of betrayal, fear, and chaos, Jesus remains completely surrendered to the Father's plan. This passage raises a question we all need to wrestle with: Where do your loyalties really lie when following Jesus becomes uncomfortable? Together, Jamie and Jane explore the contrasting responses of Judas, Peter, and Jesus. Judas betrays Jesus with those coming to arrest Him. Peter tries to take control of the situation with a sword. And Jesus willingly steps forward, knowing exactly what is about to happen. What happens when our desire to protect ourselves conflicts with God's plan? Can we be passionate about Jesus but still respond in ways that don't reflect His heart? And what does genuine loyalty look like when obedience requires surrender instead of action? John 18 reminds us that following Jesus isn't simply about standing up for Him when it's easy. It's about trusting Him when His ways don't make sense to us. Whether you're facing a difficult decision, navigating disappointment, or learning to surrender control, this conversation will challenge you to examine where your trust and allegiance truly rest. Grab your coffee, pull up a chair, and join Jamie and Jane as we discover what it means to remain faithful when everything around us feels uncertain. Because loyalty to Jesus isn't just revealed in what we say. It's revealed in whom we trust when the pressure comes. You belong at the table. Reflection Question: When God's plan doesn't look the way I expected, do I respond like Peter and try to take control, like Judas and turn away, or like Jesus and surrender to the Father's will? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Before the Cross, He Prayed for You: Jesus’ Final Prayers – John 17:6–26 In Episode 156 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane continue their journey through the Gospel of John with John 17:6–26, where we are invited into one of the most personal and powerful moments in Scripture: Jesus praying for His disciples—and for every believer who would come after them. With the cross just ahead, Jesus doesn't pray for an escape from suffering. Instead, He prays for protection, unity, holiness, and a love that reflects the very heart of the Father. And then something extraordinary happens. Jesus prays for us. Together, Jamie and Jane unpack what it means to know that Jesus was thinking about future believers before He went to the cross. They explore His desire for His followers to be united in truth, set apart for God's purposes, and rooted in the same love the Father has for the Son. What does real Christian unity look like? How do we live in a world that often rejects God's truth without becoming disconnected from the people we're called to love? And how does knowing that Jesus interceded for us change the way we pray, love, and live today? John 17 reminds us that we aren't simply followers of Jesus—we are people He loves, protects, and prays for. If you've ever felt alone, divided, or uncertain about your place in God's story, pull up a chair. This conversation is a beautiful reminder that before you ever spoke a prayer to Jesus, He had already prayed for those who would believe in Him. You belong at the table. Reflection Question: If Jesus prayed for my protection, unity, and relationship with the Father, how should that change the way I live, love others, and approach God in prayer? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Lift Up Your Eyes: Jesus’ Prayer Before the Cross – John 17:1–5 In Episode 155 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane enter John 17, one of the most intimate moments in the Gospel of John. With the cross drawing near, Jesus does something powerful: He lifts His eyes toward heaven and prays. In John 17:1–5, we get to listen as Jesus speaks directly to the Father about glory, purpose, eternal life, and the work He was sent to accomplish. Together, Jamie and Jane explore what we can learn from the posture of Jesus when pressure is at its greatest. Instead of looking around at the circumstances or inward at the fear, Jesus looks up. What could change in our own lives if we did the same? This conversation is an invitation to shift our focus from what is happening around us to the One who is above it all—to lift our eyes when life feels heavy, remember our purpose when circumstances become distracting, and discover that eternal life isn't simply about where we're going someday. It's about knowing God today. Whatever you're carrying right now, John 17 offers a simple but powerful reminder: Lift up your eyes. Reflection Question: What have I been staring at that God may be asking me to stop focusing on—and what would happen if I lifted my eyes toward Him instead? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

You Are Not Alone: How the Holy Spirit Guides Us – John 16 In Episode 154 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane continue their journey through the Gospel of John with John 16, where Jesus prepares His disciples for what life will look like after He leaves—and gives them an incredible promise: the Holy Spirit is coming. Jesus tells His disciples that the Spirit of Truth will guide them, teach them, reveal truth, and point them back to Him. What feels like Jesus leaving is actually the beginning of something new: God's presence dwelling within His people. Together, Jamie and Jane unpack what it practically means to be led by the Holy Spirit. How do we recognize His guidance? How do we distinguish His voice from our own thoughts, fears, and desires? And how can we trust His leading when we don't know what's coming next? John 16 also reminds us that following Jesus doesn't mean avoiding difficulty. Jesus tells His disciples plainly that trouble will come—but then gives them a promise we still desperately need today: “Take heart! I have overcome the world.” If you're facing a decision, walking through uncertainty, or simply longing to recognize God's voice more clearly, pull up a chair. You don't have to figure everything out on your own. The Holy Spirit is still guiding. Reflection Question: Where am I trying to figure everything out on my own instead of slowing down and allowing the Holy Spirit to guide me? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Joy in the Resistance: Loving Jesus When the World Pushes Back – John 15:13–27 In Episode 153 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane continue through John 15:13–27, where Jesus moves from one of His greatest statements about love—“Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends”—into a difficult truth about what it means to follow Him: not everyone will understand or accept you. Jesus calls His disciples friends, commands them to love one another, and reminds them that they have been chosen to bear lasting fruit. But He also prepares them for resistance, rejection, and persecution. So how do we hold onto joy, love, and faith when following Jesus becomes difficult? Together, Jamie and Jane explore what it means to love sacrificially without needing the approval of the world, how to remain rooted in Christ when your faith is challenged, and the role of the Holy Spirit—the Advocate—who empowers us to testify about Jesus. Following Christ doesn't guarantee an easy road. But Jesus never asks us to walk it alone. This conversation is an invitation to stay rooted in love, remain faithful under pressure, and choose joy even when following Jesus comes with a cost. Reflection Question: Can I remain joyful, loving, and faithful to Jesus even when following Him costs me the approval of others? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Abide: Staying Connected to Jesus with Jeannie Cunnion – John 15 In Episode 152 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane welcome back author and Bible teacher Jeannie Cunnion for a powerful conversation about one of the central invitations of John 15: Abide in Me. What does it actually look like to abide in Jesus—not just during quiet time or Bible study, but in the middle of busy schedules, difficult seasons, relationships, parenting, work, and everyday life? Together, Jamie, Jane, and Jeannie explore the difference between striving for God and staying connected to God. They unpack Jesus’ picture of the Vine and the branches, why fruit is the result of abiding rather than performing, and how we can recognize when we've begun trying to produce in our own strength. They also talk honestly about pruning, surrender, intimacy with Jesus, and learning to remain in His love when God seems to be cutting away things we thought we needed. John 15 reminds us that Jesus isn't asking us to manufacture more fruit. He's inviting us to stay close to the Vine. If you've been tired from striving, questioning a season of pruning, or simply longing for deeper intimacy with Jesus, pull up a chair. This conversation is an invitation to stop performing—and start abiding. Reflection Question: Am I trying to produce fruit for Jesus—or am I staying close enough to Him that fruit becomes the natural result? ____________________________________ Connect with Jeannie Cunnion: Website: https://www.jeanniecunnion.com/ ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams ____________________________________  Get Jamie’s Newest Book: Living Loved: An 8-week Journey to Living Fully Loved

Stay Connected: The Vine, the Branches & the Purpose of Pruning – John 15:1–12 In Episode 151 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane dive into one of Jesus’ most powerful pictures of our relationship with Him: “I am the vine; you are the branches.” In John 15:1–12, Jesus teaches that a fruitful life doesn’t come from striving harder—it comes from abiding deeper. But He also introduces something most of us would rather avoid: pruning. Together, Jamie and Jane explore why God prunes even the branches that are already producing fruit, how seasons of cutting back can actually prepare us for greater growth, and what it practically looks like to remain connected to Jesus when life feels uncomfortable or uncertain. What if the thing God is removing isn’t punishment? What if it’s preparation? Jesus’ invitation is simple: Remain in Me. Because apart from Him we can do nothing, but connected to the Vine, our lives can produce the kind of lasting fruit God created us to bear. And at the center of it all is love—remaining in His love and learning to love others as He has loved us. Reflection Question: What if the thing I’ve been asking God to restore is actually something He’s pruning so I can grow? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Peace the World Can’t Give: The Promise of the Holy Spirit – John 14:15–31 In Episode 150 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane finish John 14 with one of Jesus’ greatest promises: we will never have to walk alone. As Jesus prepares His disciples for His departure, He promises the coming of the Holy Spirit—the Advocate, Helper, and Teacher who will remain with them and remind them of everything Jesus has taught. Then, in the middle of uncertainty about what comes next, Jesus gives them something the world cannot manufacture: His peace. Together, Jamie and Jane explore what it means to recognize the presence of the Holy Spirit in our everyday lives, how love for Jesus shapes our obedience, and the difference between temporary peace based on circumstances and the lasting peace that comes from Christ. Jesus never promised His followers a life without trouble, questions, or uncertainty. He promised something better: His presence in the middle of it. If your heart has been anxious, overwhelmed, or searching for peace, pull up a chair. John 14 reminds us that we have a Helper, we have His presence, and we have a peace the world cannot give. Reflection Question: Am I looking to my circumstances to give me peace—or am I learning to receive the peace Jesus has already given me? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Ask, Believe, Dream Bigger: The Greater Things Jesus Promised – John 14:12–14 In Episode 149 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane slow down and dive into just three powerful verses—John 14:12–14—where Jesus makes an astonishing promise about faith, prayer, and the “greater works” His followers will do. What did Jesus mean when He said, “Whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these”? And what do we do with His invitation to “ask me for anything in my name”? Together, Jamie and Jane explore the difference between dreaming with God and simply asking Him to bless our plans. They talk about bold prayers, surrendered dreams, expectations, and what it means to believe that God can accomplish more through our lives than we could ever manufacture on our own. Maybe we've been praying too safely. Maybe we've allowed disappointment to shrink what we're willing to ask God for. John 14 invites us to believe again, ask boldly, dream with God—and remember that ultimately, it is all for the glory of the Father. Reflection Question: Have I allowed fear, disappointment, or past unanswered prayers to make my prayers smaller—and what might God be inviting me to ask Him for again? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

The Way, the Truth, and the Life: Knowing Jesus with Kristin Nave – John 14 n Episode 148 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane welcome Bible teacher and author Kristin Nave for a powerful conversation centered on John 14 and one of Jesus’ most defining declarations: “I am the way and the truth and the life.” Together, they unpack what these words mean for us today. What does it look like to follow Jesus as the Way when we don't know where we're going? How do we anchor ourselves in the Truth when so many voices compete for our attention? And what does it mean to experience Jesus not simply as part of our lives, but as the Life itself? Kristin brings her passion for Scripture and practical Bible study into a conversation about knowing Jesus personally, trusting Him in uncertainty, and allowing God's Word to shape how we live. John 14 isn't simply giving us directions for finding our way to God. Jesus makes an extraordinary claim: He is the way. If you're searching for direction, wrestling with truth, or longing for a deeper relationship with Jesus, pull up a chair. This conversation is for you. Reflection Question: Am I simply asking Jesus to show me the way or am I trusting that Jesus Himself is the Way? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams Connect with Kristin Nave: Website: www.abidingfree.com Website: www.shelovesbible.com Instagram: @shelovesbible ____________________________________   Get Jamie’s Newest Book: Living Loved: An 8-week Journey to Living Fully Loved

Troubled World, Untroubled Heart: Trusting Jesus When Life Feels Uncertain – John 14:1–11 In Episode 147 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane step into John 14:1–11, where Jesus speaks some of His most comforting words to His disciples: “Do not let your hearts be troubled.” Jesus knows what is coming. The disciples are facing uncertainty, confusion, and fear—yet He doesn't promise them an easy road. Instead, He gives them something greater: Himself. Together, Jamie and Jane unpack what it means to have an untroubled heart in a troubled world, why trusting God doesn't require understanding everything He's doing, and the hope found in Jesus' declaration: “I am the way, the truth, and the life.” When the world feels uncertain, our circumstances don't have to determine the condition of our hearts. Jesus invites us to trust Him, know the Father through Him, and find peace in the promise that He is preparing the way. If your heart has felt anxious, overwhelmed, or uncertain about what's ahead, John 14 is an invitation to remember who Jesus is—and why you can trust Him. What is troubling my heart right now—and what would change if I trusted Jesus with it instead of trying to control the outcome? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Faithful Through Betrayal: Love, Loyalty, and the New Commandment – John 13:18–38 In Episode 146 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane continue through John 13:18–38, where the final hours before the cross reveal both the beauty of Christ's love and the heartbreak of human failure. Jesus foretells Judas' betrayal, predicts Peter's denial, and gives His disciples a new commandment that will forever define His followers: "Love one another as I have loved you." Together, they explore how Jesus responded to betrayal with compassion, why our identity is rooted in Christ rather than our failures, and what it truly means to love others with the same grace we've received. Even in the face of rejection and abandonment, Jesus remained faithful to His mission—and He invites us to do the same. This episode is a powerful reminder that while people may disappoint us, Jesus never will. His love is stronger than betrayal, His grace is greater than our failures, and His call to love remains at the center of the Christian life. How can I reflect the love of Jesus toward someone who has hurt me, disappointed me, or failed me? ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

The Towel and the Basin: The Heart of a Servant – John 13:1–17 In Episode 145 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane begin one of the most intimate and transformative sections of the Gospel of John. In John 13:1–17, Jesus—the King of kings—kneels to wash the feet of His disciples, revealing that true greatness in God's Kingdom is found in humble service. Together, they unpack the significance of this unforgettable moment, exploring what it means to love sacrificially, lead with humility, and serve others with the heart of Christ. Peter's struggle to accept Jesus' act of service also reminds us that following Jesus means learning both to receive His grace and to extend it to others. This episode is an invitation to exchange pride for humility, status for service, and self-centered living for the example Jesus modeled on the night before the cross. As followers of Christ, we're not just called to admire His example—we're called to live it. Who is Jesus inviting me to serve with humility this week, and am I willing to lay down my pride to love like He loved?____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Website: www.janewwilliams.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams

Love, Community, and Truth: A Conversation with Natalie Runion In Episode 144 of Divine Table Talk, Jamie and Jane welcome Natalie Runion—USA Today bestselling author, speaker, worship leader, and founder of the Raised to Stay community—for an honest conversation about love, biblical community, and living in truth. Drawing from her experiences in ministry and the messages of her bestselling books Raised to Stay and The House That Jesus Built, Natalie shares how believers can pursue healing without abandoning the Church, embrace authentic Christian community, and hold tightly to truth while extending grace. Together, they discuss the beauty of imperfect people pursuing a perfect Savior and why healthy relationships are essential to spiritual growth. Whether you've experienced church hurt, are longing for deeper community, or simply want to love people more like Jesus, this conversation will encourage you to remain rooted in Christ and committed to building His Church. Learn more about Natalie, her ministry, speaking events, books, and the Raised to Stay community at: NatalieRunion.com ____________________________________ Connect with Jamie: Website: www.jamieklusacek.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamieklusacek Connect with Jane: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janewwilliams ____________________________________   Get Jamie’s Newest Book: Living Loved: An 8-week Journey to Living Fully Loved