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The Trade Den

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This podcast has
141 episodes
Language
English
Publisher
Pravar Group
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No
Date created
2024/03/04
Latest episode
2026/10/21
Average duration
38 min.
Release period
7 days

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If you’re a tradie and you’ve gone out on your own you’ve probably done it because you want more out of your life… to earn more money, build wealth, have more free time with your family and live a great lifestyle.  But for so many business owners they end up working long hours, not generating enough profit and ending up tired, stressed and with no time to connect with the very thing that matters to them most … their families.  In The Trade Den Podcast, we pull back the curtain to share the same tools, stories and strategies that have helped hundreds of businessmen in the trades and construction industry transform their businesses and reconnect with their families.  If you’re ready to take back control of your business and life you’re in the right place, click follow so you don’t miss a single episode and head to The Trade Den to join our Facebook Community.  Ready to get off the Hamster Wheel and take your Business and Life to the next level? Book a Chat here  Find out more about Pravar Group at pravargroup.com or @rob_kropp

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138. How Chris Escaped a 100-Hour Week to Build a $3M Business
2026/10/21
At his lowest point, Chris Miller was working close to 100 hours a week, missing the first two years of his daughter's life, and had no real separation between work and home. He hated it, but he didn't know another way to run a business.  Running Sydney Metro Decking out of a container at home, Chris believed the only path forward were more hours, more hustle, and doing everything himself because no one else could do it as well as he could. The turning point came when he realised he was a housemate, not a husband, and refused to let more time slip by in the same way.   In just 12 months, Chris restructured the business from the ground up, hiring a second crew, bringing in admin support, and separating home from work entirely. The business nearly doubled to a $3 million run rate while his hours dropped by half. More importantly, he got his family back, with regular trips away and the kind of presence he once thought was out of reach.  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Hiring a second tradesman was the easy, obvious first move. 🔨 Admin support freed up more time than any other hire. 🔨 Quoting went from a late-night task to a daytime priority. 🔨 Revenue nearly doubled while working hours were cut in half. 🔨 Letting go of control meant trusting others to do it well. 🔨 Presence with family became the real measure of success.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
137. Don't Let Christmas Wreck Your First Quarter
2026/10/14
Christmas feels close, but for trades businesses it's not holiday season, it's the season that decides the next six months. Get the lead-up wrong and the cost isn't a quiet January, it's a lost quarter of recovery.  Three levers separate a strong finish from a brutal restart: pipeline, cash, and resources. Selling into Q1 while everyone else focuses only on finishing Q4 jobs. Turning probable work into secured contracts before customers vanish for the break. Chasing invoices and payments before doors close, not after. And locking in people and materials so January starts with momentum instead of scrambling.  Nail this window and the new year opens with work booked, cash in hand, and crews ready. Miss it, and you're not starting fresh, you're digging out. In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Sell into January now, even while Q4 is already fully booked. 🔨 Move work from probable to secured with signed contracts and deposits. 🔨 Invoice early, since payments stall badly once Christmas holidays actually begin. 🔨 Getting jobs fully finished matters more than starting many at once. 🔨 Lock in staff leave dates and supplier lead times before shutdown. 🔨 Poor Q4 planning can cost a business its first quarter's profit.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
136. The Customer Is Not Always Right – Fire Your Worst Ones
2026/10/07
Bad customers don't just cost money, they cost margin, morale, and headspace. Most trades business owners have never done the maths on it.  Every customer carries a real cost beyond the invoice: rework, chased payments, unrealistic site visits, and discounts handed out just to keep the peace. Revenue looks fine on paper, but gross margin tells the real story, and it's the number too many owners ignore. Bad clients don't just drain profit either, they drain the crew, wearing down morale until good staff start walking.  The fix isn't emotional, it's a simple four-question test: do they pay on time, respect the price, respect the team, and would you take them on again knowing what you know now? From there, firing a customer properly means no texts, no burned bridges, and no abrupt exits. Prune the client base gradually, and build toward the customers actually worth keeping. In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Bad customers cost more in rework than they bring in revenue. 🔨 Chasing payments and unpaid site visits quietly erode real profit. 🔨 Nightmare clients damage team morale and drive good staff away. 🔨 A four-question test reveals which customers are worth keeping long term. 🔨 Reset terms and pricing upfront to filter out poor-fit customers. 🔨 Prune your customer base gradually, never purge it all at once.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
135. Your Best Tradie Should Never Get the Promotion
2026/09/30
Promoting the best tradesperson into management feels obvious. It's usually the costliest mistake a growing trades business makes.  Loyalty, fear and convenience drive most promotion decisions, not strategy. The longest-serving tradie gets the nod because owners feel obligated, want a retention win, or need to justify a pay rise. What follows is predictable: the business loses its most profitable person off the tools, then gains an undertrained, overwhelmed manager who defaults to doing the job themselves rather than leading a team.  The fix isn't complicated, but it is disciplined. Define the role and its responsibilities before naming a person. Look for planning, communication and coordination skills, not just trade mastery. Train and support whoever steps up for the long haul it actually takes. Position first, person second. Skip that order, and even a well-intentioned process can still cost you both the tradesman and the manager.  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Owners promote out of loyalty, fear, or convenience rather than strategic thinking. 🔨 Losing your top tradie off the tools creates a real financial hit. 🔨 A poorly prepared manager often reverts to doing the job themselves. 🔨 Building management skills properly takes twelve to eighteen months, not days. 🔨 Define the role and responsibilities before deciding who should fill it. 🔨 Position first, person second prevents the most costly promotion mistakes possible.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
134. "Nobody Wants to Work Anymore" Is a Lie
2026/09/23
"Nobody wants to work anymore" is the laziest excuse in trades, and it's time to retire it. The real problem isn't a labour shortage, it's a leadership shortage dressed up as one. Good people exist, and they're already working, just not for those businesses that are running on chaos, low standards, and stale culture.  The fix isn't a bigger pay check. It's clarity about where the business is headed, real growth paths, genuine respect, room to contribute, and training that actually develops people instead of just filling hours. Even in the tightest markets, businesses that get this right stop struggling to find people and start becoming the place people choose to stay.  Stop blaming the workforce. Start looking in the mirror.  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Most staffing problems are actually leadership problems wearing a disguise. 🔨 Good tradespeople exist and are already working somewhere else entirely. 🔨 People choose employers now, they don't settle for bad ones. 🔨 Growth opportunities matter more than most business owners ever realise. 🔨 Respect and honest communication build loyalty money simply cannot buy. 🔨 Training people well means they stay, not that they leave.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
133. Scale Multiplies Everything, Including Your Problems
2026/09/16
Growth is the tradie instinct: when things get hard, work harder, do more. But that's exactly the wrong move for a broken business. Scaling doesn't fix problems, it multiplies them.  Chasing the next job to pay for the last one feels like progress, but it's just masking a margin problem with more noise. The real fix isn't sexier sales or bigger crews, it's pricing properly, tightening scheduling, and getting brutally honest about the numbers already sitting in the business. Bigger isn't the fix. Better is. Get the foundations right first, because a business that's broken at one size will only break harder at the next. In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Scaling doesn't fix problems, it multiplies them, the good and the bad. 🔨 Working harder on a broken business only deepens the cracks already forming. 🔨 Revenue can rise while profit stays flat, or even quietly slides backward. 🔨 More sales won't fix margin issues, only better management and pricing will. 🔨 Back costing completed jobs reveals exactly where the real money is leaking. 🔨 Fix the foundations first, because bigger only multiplies whatever's already broken.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
132. Pravar Conference & Awards 2026 - Celebrating the year that has been
2026/09/09
Two communities, one incredible event. This episode takes you inside Pravar's 2026 Annual Conference & Awards in Port Douglas, where our Lifestyle and Legacy clients came together for the first time ever to celebrate the 2026 Financial Year.  If you missed it, consider this your front-row seat. We're unpacking the wins, the awards, the conversations that set the tone for the whole event, plus a few unforgettable moments: fire-lit dinners deep in the rainforest, traditional indigenous performance, and a boat trip to the reef that got a little more adventurous than planned.   At the end of the day, this isn't just a night of trophies. It's a chance to pause, celebrate how far everyone's come, and reset for what's next.   Four awards were handed out this year:  👉 The Bevan Award (our nod to consistency and habits) went to Jake Mohr of Powermate. Over the past 12 months he's brought his business and personal life into real alignment, building strong health habits and showing up more fully as a husband and dad while his business kept climbing.  👉 The Transformation Award went to Danny Hipwell of Bendigo Building Repairs, now affectionately known in the group as "D2 Danny." After years of self-doubt, he made the decision to close the door on old limitations for good, and the shift has been remarkable to witness.  👉 The Breakthrough Award went to Matt Ryan of MTR Electrical. Since his last appearance on the podcast, he's scaled from million-dollar years to million-dollar quarters, built out real structure in his business, and started taking genuine time off with his family, even in a tough Victorian market. Catch his episode (Ep73) here: https://pravargroup.com/how-matt-broke-the-1m-barrier-and-built-without-burnout/  👉 The Excellence Award went to Dave Wilcox of Common Ground. What started as a handful of people has grown into a national operation with 60-70 employees, all built around his mission to get people outdoors. He shared the moment on stage with his wife, a reminder that this was never a solo effort. Catch his episode (Ep107) here: https://pravargroup.com/from-backyard-business-to-nationwide-industry-leader/  Huge congratulations to all our winners!  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Celebrating wins publicly reinforces progress and gives others permission to grow. 🔨 Personal standards shape performance, and raising them lifts results around you. 🔨 Business owners can't outsource leadership, only financial acumen and people skills matter. 🔨 Culture isn't aspirational, it's the good and bad you already tolerate. 🔨 Your business will never outgrow you as its leader and decision-maker. 🔨 Sustainable success demands constant personal transformation alongside business growth and structure.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
131. Mindset Matters: From Tradie to Business Owner Identity Trap
2026/09/02
Many trades business owners believe they need better systems, better staff or a better plan. The real obstacle is often the person staring back in the mirror. The identity that helped build a great tradesperson can become the very thing that prevents growth as a business owner.  The words “I am” quietly shape decisions, habits, confidence and behaviour. From high-vis uniforms and tool bags to delegation, leadership and profitability, every choice reflects how someone sees themselves.  The challenge is not learning another business tactic. It is making the uncomfortable transition from being the person who does the work to the person who leads the business. Because until identity changes, results rarely do. And when identity shifts, everything else starts to follow.  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Success in business is rarely limited by strategy and more often by identity. 🔨 Great tradies often struggle because business ownership requires a different identity. 🔨 What once drove success can eventually become a ceiling to growth. 🔨 Delegation becomes easier when leadership replaces craftsmanship as your identity. 🔨 Business owners need new tools, systems, numbers and management capabilities. 🔨 Your business will rarely outgrow the person you believe yourself to be.   In this episode we mentioned about “the room you’re in”: when the environment changes, your perspective changes. That’s from:  Episode 123. Change Your Room, Change the Results https://pravargroup.com/change-your-room-change-the-results/  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
130. Be the Lighthouse, Not the Tugboat: The Leadership Shift That Changes Everything
2026/08/26
The biggest shift in leadership is not working harder. It’s changing how you lead. Too many business owners spend years acting like tugboats, solving every problem, making every decision and pulling everyone forward. It works for a while, but eventually creates dependence, frustration and burnout.  Real leadership begins when you become the lighthouse. You stop rescuing and start guiding. You ask better questions instead of supplying quick answers. You create clarity, consistency and confidence so others can think, decide and grow for themselves. The same principle applies at home. As children mature, they need guidance more than direction.  Whether you’re leading a team or raising a family, lasting success comes from developing capable, independent people rather than making yourself indispensable. In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Leadership changes when you stop rescuing and start helping people grow. 🔨 Great leaders ask better questions instead of always giving quick answers. 🔨 Your team cannot grow while you keep solving every problem. 🔨 Children need direction early, but guidance as they grow older. 🔨 Micromanagement stifles good people and keeps the owner constantly exhausted. 🔨 Real growth happens when people learn to think for themselves.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
129. What Happened When Trent Stopped Avoiding the Hard Work
2026/08/19
For years, Trent Shah thought freedom came from working less, having more fun and finding the shortcut everyone else seemed to be missing. He bounced between jobs, built businesses, chased opportunities and looked for the thing that would finally make life easier.  What he eventually realised was that the answer was much simpler, and much harder. There was no silver bullet. Growing up with a father who worked constantly shaped the way Trent viewed work, success and life. It wasn’t until he started looking honestly at his habits, his mindset and the example he was setting for his family that things began to change.  Today, he leads two successful businesses, prioritises his health and family, and has learned that real change comes from consistently doing the work. In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Childhood experiences shaped Trent’s beliefs about work, success and freedom deeply. 🔨 Building successful businesses required personal growth before professional growth occurred. 🔨 Consistent habits created lasting change when motivation alone repeatedly failed. 🔨 Leadership improved when he focused on changing himself before others. 🔨 Being a positive example influenced family more than advice ever could. 🔨 Generational change starts when choosing different behaviours and standards.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
128. Account Management: The Revenue Sitting Right Under Your Nose
2026/08/12
The strongest source of work is rarely a new lead. It’s the clients, referral partners and industry contacts already sitting in your phone. Yet too many business owners stop investing in the relationships that built their business in the first place.  Account management is not customer service, damage control or chasing work when things go quiet. It’s the deliberate, ongoing process of strengthening trust, creating opportunities and protecting hard-won relationships from competitors.  A simple audit of existing clients and referral partners reveals where revenue is growing, where relationships are slipping and where untapped opportunities already exist. The solution comes down to three actions: build stronger connections, repair neglected relationships and expand into wider networks. Often, the fastest path to growth is hidden in plain sight.  In this episode you’ll learn: 🔨 Your best growth opportunities are often hidden inside existing client relationships. 🔨 Strong referral relationships need ongoing attention, not occasional desperate check-ins. 🔨 Most pipeline problems are really neglected account management problems in disguise. 🔨 Build, repair and expand relationships before chasing cold new opportunities elsewhere. 🔨 Revenue trends reveal which relationships are growing, slipping or being ignored. 🔨 Warm introductions beat cold leads because trust is already doing work.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
127. Growth Stalls When You Stay Stuck On The Tools
2026/08/05
Every growing trade business reaches the same crossroads: keep being the person who does the work, or become the person who builds the team that does it.  Many business owners stay on the tools long after they need to, convinced nobody can meet their standards or worried they are no longer contributing if they are not physically producing work. Beneath the surface, trust, guilt, capability gaps and the comfort of familiarity quietly keep them stuck.  The result is predictable. Growth stalls, opportunities are missed, systems never improve and the owner becomes the bottleneck.  Building a bigger business is not about working harder on the tools. It is about developing people, creating capability and learning an entirely new craft: leadership. The transition is rarely instant, but those willing to step back strategically create the capacity, freedom and momentum needed to move from tradesperson to true business owner.  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 What built your business can eventually become what limits growth. 🔨 Trusting your team is essential if you want sustainable growth. 🔨 Guilt keeps many owners productive, busy, and permanently stuck today. 🔨 Leadership requires new skills beyond technical expertise and workmanship alone. 🔨 Familiar work feels safe, but growth happens beyond comfort zones. 🔨 Step off the tools progressively, not suddenly, and build confidence.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
126. Money Matters: Variations, the Hidden Profit Killer
2026/07/29
Variations are one of the biggest profit killers in a trades business, yet most owners barely notice the damage until it’s too late. A few extra hours here, an unapproved change there, and suddenly tens of thousands of dollars have disappeared from the bottom line.  The problem rarely starts on-site. It begins much earlier with vague scopes, unclear quotes and assumptions that everyone is on the same page. From casual client requests and handshake agreements to undocumented changes and missed approvals, small decisions create major margin erosion.  We walk you through our simple six-step framework, SCRAPE:  Scope: Define exactly what is and is not included. Capture: Document every change request, no matter how small. Review: Assess the true cost, time and impact before committing. Approve: Get client sign-off before the extra work begins. Plan: Adjust schedules, materials, labour and expectations. Execute: Complete the variation exactly as agreed, without adding unpaid extras.  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Clear scopes prevent confusion, disputes and costly misunderstandings with clients. 🔨 Every variation should be documented, regardless of how small it seems. 🔨 Reviewing changes before proceeding helps protect margins and cash flow. 🔨 Client approval removes ambiguity and prevents costly payment disputes later. 🔨 Variations affect labour, materials, schedules and administration far more often. 🔨 Poor variation management can cost trades businesses thousands annually unnoticed.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
125. Why hiring an Admin is the best decision you'll make
2026/07/22
Most tradies don’t avoid hiring an admin because they can’t see the value. They avoid it because they’re trapped by the wrong questions. What would they do all day? Can I afford them? What if work slows down? Where would they even work?  Admin support is often the single biggest growth lever in a trades business. A great administrator takes ownership of the low-value tasks that consume nights, weekends and mental bandwidth, freeing business owners to focus on quoting, winning work and growing profit.  Many objections come from focusing on cost rather than opportunity. The right admin improves organisation, increases capacity, creates leverage and helps reclaim valuable time.  For businesses approaching the million-dollar mark, this is often the hire that breaks the bottleneck and unlocks the next stage of growth.  Sometimes the smartest move is not doing more, but doing less of the wrong things. In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 A great admin removes low-value tasks and creates capacity for growth. 🔨 Business owners often become the most expensive administrators in their companies. 🔨 Hiring admin support buys back valuable time for higher-value business activities. 🔨 Administrative professionals often love tasks that tradies personally dislike doing. 🔨 Part-time admin support offers low risk, flexibility and immediate business benefits. 🔨 Experienced industry-specific administrators require less training and deliver results faster.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
124. From Shiny Light Syndrome to Laser Focused Leadership
2026/07/15
For years, Luca Lapenna was his own biggest obstacle. The Gold Coast local and owner of Aesthetic Tile & Stone grew from a one-man operation into a business employing multiple crews, yet behind the growth were impulsive decisions, constant distractions and what he calls “shiny light syndrome”. He was forever chasing the next opportunity while struggling to lead effectively. Trapped between wanting freedom and needing structure, he found himself working harder but not necessarily moving forward.  Everything changed when he began working on himself and focused on developing his leadership skills. Through coaching, self-reflection and confronting habits that were holding him back, Luca learned that sustainable growth comes from discipline, consistency and accountability.  Today, he leads two successful businesses, spends meaningful time with his family and measures success differently. Not by what life looks like from the outside, but by how it feels on the inside.  In this episode you’ll learn:  🔨 Freedom comes through discipline, structure and consistent execution, not shortcuts. 🔨 Great leadership starts with self-awareness, accountability and personal responsibility first. 🔨 The people around you influence standards, habits and long-term success. 🔨 Sustainable growth requires becoming the person your future business needs. 🔨 Success feels different when family, purpose and profit work together. 🔨 Building a better business often begins with building a better self.  … Book a free Discovery Call to start your journey toward building a sustainable business and balanced life: www.strategysession.com.au  Find out more about Pravar Group at www.pravargroup.com or https://www.instagram.com/pravargroup  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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