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Second Nature

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66 episodes
Language
English
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Commons
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Date created
2024/04/22
Latest episode
2026/10/31
Average duration
31 min.
Release period
19 days

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How can we live sustainably in an unsustainable world? Second Nature is a podcast by Commons exploring how our sustainable choices impact our lives and the planet. Every week hear how listeners are taking public transit, composting food waste, eating more plant-based meals and practicing deconsumption to create the kind of world they want to live in. We'll calculate the carbon impact of collective action and get expert answers to your burning climate questions. Everyone’s sustainable life is unique. Tell us about yours. thecommons.earth/podcast 🌎 Join a community of tens of thousands of people using the Commons app to track their emissions and get rewarded for sustainable living: https://www.thecommons.earth/get-the-app-second-nature Follow us on Instagram to get behind-the-scenes footage and more stories from Commons' climate community: https://instagram.com/secondnatureearth

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Call for Submissions: AI & Our Money
2026/10/31
We’re working on a new season of the Second Nature podcast, and we’re doing things a little bit differently this time around — More episodes on each topic. Deeper dives. Easier submission process. First up this season, we're tackling the question: How is AI Impacting Our Money? For the best shot at getting on an episode, please send in your submissions before November 8. Submitting is easy! Head to the submission form to see the questions and submit your audio. Record your audio and attach it to the form, then hit send!That's it! We'll let you know if we've featured your submission on the show. 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. (00:00) - Marker 1
The Art of Being a Villager
2026/06/17
It seems that the modern world is in its isolation era, leaving us craving the easy comfort of irl camaraderie. Ideally, the kind that comes without the need to buy a ticket or split a bill. Because becoming a villager isn't just a salve for loneliness, it's a rebellion against consumerism. After a whole season of following the money, we're wrapping up our finale contemplating how we can create community without it. We're hearing from our community about how they show up as villagers, and how they start their own villages. Turns out you don't need to bean extrovert, have a huge group chat, or be a pillar in your community. You just have to show up.  These relationships we make with our community create bonds that strengthen our ability to adapt in climate disasters, financial instability, and even supply chain woes. And getting started is easier than you think. 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Nick Blocha, Elena Demireva, Tavia, Camila Bronson, Jen Horn, LenaResearch: Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
The Data Center Next Door
2026/06/10
When data centers come to town, power bills go up, the water supply gets squeezed, and emissions start to rise. It's no wonder seven in ten Americans don't want one in their backyard. In the midst of this AI gold rush, many tech companies are taking advantage of communities, health, wealth, and safety for promises of a better future. But communities aren't taking the bait. In this episode, we talk about the real-life effects of AI infrastructure and hear how it's affecting folks in our community. We get the stats on this booming industry and what's at stake. We hear from Abre' Conner, the civil rights attorney leading the NAACP's lawsuit against Elon Musk's xAI — a data center that's now running 59 methane gas turbines in a Mississippi community, breaking a law that's been on the books since the 1970s. And we ask the uncomfortable question: could all this energy hunger actually accelerate the renewable transition? Is the AI revolution happening to us or for us? And what can we do about it? Episode rundown: (00:53) - On thing we can agree on (09:14) - The ripple effects of the AI boom (14:35) - The NAACP Lawyer Taking Elon Musk's xAI (27:59) - Can the Grid Save Us? (43:52) - Keep Making Noise 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Artie Sadahiro, Birdie Peelman, Amanda DoughtyResearch: Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
How Cows and Congress are Raising Your Grocery Bill
2026/06/03
You don't have to look much further than your grocery receipt to see how climate change can affect our food supply chain. But some of the key drivers of climate change are sitting right in our carts. It's a chicken-or-egg debacle that we're happy to explore on this episode if it means understanding how we can create a more adaptable, equitable food supply chain.  Farms are dealing with historic heat waves slashing wheat and maize yields, record rainfall collapsing corn harvests, sea level rise swallowing farmland on the East Coast, and disappearing pollinators that one-third of our food supply depends on. And we're paying the price. We hear from our community about how the rising price of groceries has meant making sustainability tradeoffs on what they buy at the store. Food insecurity and the climate crisis are also intertwined. Maggie Baird, founder of Support and Feed, helps us understand how the animal agriculture industry is at the center of many climate (and health woes), challenging us to rethink food traditions rooted in culture and family identity. To better understand how we got here,  Commons founder Sanchali Seth Pal follows the money through animal agriculture subsidies.    Episode rundown: (00:54) - How our food choices and the climate crisis feed each other (02:30) - How climate change is affecting food prices (04:41) - When sustainable food becomes a luxury you can't afford (09:07) - Animal agriculture, culinary tradition, and food inequity with Maggie Baird (27:49) - Our tax dollars are making meat cheaper? (33:59) - Changing what we eat can change the climate 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Sophia Anderson, Jeanne, Mary Klene, Molly Barton, Katherine, Dom AltomariResearch : Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
Can We Vote Our Way Out of the Climate Crisis?
2026/05/27
Government seems to move slower than the pace of climate change, so do our votes for climate candidates and policies actually make a difference?  ‍ In this episode, we're connecting the dots between climate and policy and hearing from people around the world about how their governments’ policies are affecting their lives and their regions. We're also catching up with HEATED editor-in-chief Emily Atkin to hear how climate reporting has changed over the past couple of presidential terms and how she keeps her head above water after a decade of reporting on climate. We'll also talk to Commons founder Sanchali Seth Pal about climate policies around the world that have actually worked.  ‍ If you're looking for resources to help you vote for the planet in the 2024 U.S. presidential election, or any upcoming U.S. election, here are some resources that could help: Vote Climate U.S. PAC's Voter Guide, Climate Cabinet's Climate Scorecard, League of Conservation Voter Scorecard. 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Anandi Yadav, Clara, Danielle Bird, Lindsay Kerns, Michael Chase, Nick Blocha, ShaiEditing and engineer: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan CunninghamEpisode rundown: (01:29) - Every vote you cast is a climate vote (03:34) - The price tag on our planet's worst year yet (10:46) - Emily Atkin won't let Big Oil off the hook (30:06) - Which climate laws are actually working? (39:30) - Local elections are crucial
Can We Shop Our Way to "Clean"?
2026/05/20
The word "clean" on your shampoo bottle means exactly nothing — legally, anyway. The U.S. has taken so long to update regulations that it's created a huge gap between what consumers want — products without toxic chemicals — and what the government regulates. This means only a small portion of toxic chemicals used in manufacturing are actually regulated at a national level. Folks like advocate and author Lindsay Dahl have been working for decades to close this gap, passing dozens of laws in the process. But the regulatory gap has left space for a "clean" industry to emerge, and rack up lots of cash. The "clean" beauty industry alone is worth $7 billion. In this episode, we talk to Lindsay Dahl about how we've gone this far without adequate toxicity regulation and how to shop smarter, we hear how big beauty brands have pushed back against regulation, we find out how to use our voices for federal-level change, and we hear how our community is navigating this tricky landscape. If you want to check out any of the orgs Lindsay mentioned, you can find some here, and the full list is in her book, Cleaning House:  Toxic Free FutureNatural Resources Defense CouncilEnvironmental Defense FundEnvironmental Working GroupSaferstates.org  Episode rundown: (00:36) - Why is this my job? (01:49) - The history of chemical regulation (05:49) - What does “clean” mean to you? (12:06) - The fight rid our homes of toxic chemicals (29:24) - Following the money (38:17) - What you can do (40:14) - Community Classified 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Anna, Darice Chang, Nyiah, Kayla Joy , Sawyer, Grace Hebert, Dom AltomariResearch: Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
War Has Always Been a Climate Issue
2026/05/13
Your workout leggings, your morning commute, and the fertilizer to grow your food — what do they have in common? They're all fossil fuel legacies of war. In this episode, we connect the dots between the military and the climate crisis, tracing how wartime decisions made decades ago still shape and pollute our everyday lives. We sit down with Neta C. Crawford, professor of international relations at the University of St. Andrews and author of The Pentagon, Climate Change, and War, to unpack a staggering blind spot in our global emissions picture: the military. We also follow the money with Commons co-founder Sanchali Pal to understand how the U.S. kept military missions out of the Kyoto Protocol, and what that means for climate targets today. We also hear how our community feels about using their money to avoid funding wars they don't support.  Episode rundown: (00:22) - The US military is the world's single largest institutional fossil fuel consumer. (01:31) - War's Industrial Afterlife: Nylon, fertilizer, and freeways. (05:55) - Community action: from campus divestment campaigns to rethinking their everyday spending. (09:02) - A deep dive into military emissions, hidden history, and the case for diplomacy. (38:07) - Following the Money: How Big Oil lobbied to keep military emissions off the global books (44:18) - Your vote and your wallet are more powerful climate tools than you think. (46:10) - Community Classified: Citizens’ Climate Lobby 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Braden Marazzo-Nowicki, Diana Holguin, Drew, Julia Nolasco, Fionaa Bhatia, Nicole CollinsResearch: Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
Composting Is for Everyone
2026/05/06
[This episode originally aired June 19, 2024] Composting is one of the easiest, most rewarding climate actions. You get to repurpose food waste, save money on fertilizer, and give back to the soil. Plus, there are so many ways to do it! On this episode, you'll get a straightforward explanation of how composting works and all the inspiration and guidance you need to start composting — no matter where you live. Listen in to hear: Our community's firsthand advice for composting in any living situationYour composting questions answered by Dr. Sheridan Ross of Compton Community GardenThe carbon impact of composting our food waste📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode credits Listener contributions: Nicole Collins, Joëlle Provost , Lindsay Kerns, Bo Meisl, Sameera Mokkarala, Melissa Athina, Yolanda Gonzalez, Gracon Ladd, and Daniel Goh‍Featured guests: Dr. Sheridan Ross and Sanchali Seth Pal‍Editing and engineer: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
Slow Shopping in a Fast World
2026/04/29
In a world that tries to get us to shop fast, slowing down our shopping is an act of resistance. In this community episode, our listeners share how slowing down their shopping habits saved them money, cut down on waste, and made them appreciate their stuff any more.  Episode rundown: (00:00) - Why is slow shopping important? (03:07) - Slow shopping tips from our community (11:25) - Reflections on slow shopping 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Grace Kinney-Broderick, Grace Hebert, Molly Barton, Sophia Anderson, Keionna Spalding, Gaby BeaudoinResearch: Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
Is There a Sustainable Future for Flying?
2026/04/22
The aviation industry has gotten twice as fuel-efficient since 1990, and emissions have still quadrupled. In this episode, we reckon with the guilt of flying, tracing it from economy class all the way up to private jets, where a handful of ultra-wealthy passengers emit up to 500 times more carbon than the average person annually. Plus, we dig into sustainable aviation fuel with Alyssa Norris from Aether Fuels and what it would actually take to make flying something we don't have to feel guilty about. Episode rundown: (00:35) - Should we feel guilty about flying? (03:12) - Our flying footprint (05:17) - Reckoning with guilty consciences (09:52) - What is SAF and why aren’t all planes using it? (27:19) - Following the money from private jets to economy (37:08) - Individual actions for systemic change 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Lorena, Morgan Gallagher, Bruno Olmedo Quiroga, Darice  Chang, Jessica Tucker, Kayla Joy , Lena, Dom AltomariResearch: Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
It's Time to Kill Your Lawn
2026/04/15
Lawns cover more American soil than any other irrigated crop — but who decided they should look this way, and at what cost? In this episode, we trace the centuries-old aristocratic tradition behind the modern lawn, expose the billion-dollar industry profiting from invasive grasses and toxic chemicals, and with the help of nature educator Jason Wise (aka Journeyman), we’ll explore how your patch of green could become something far more prosperous. If you've ever questioned the monoculture outside your front door, this one's for you. Episode rundown: (00:00) - Chapter 1 (00:49) - Why are lawns a climate issue? (02:38) - How did lawns become popular? (06:05) - How is our community adapting their lawns? (12:34) - Tips to rewind your lawn from Jason Wise (aka Journeyman) (34:02) - Who’s profiting off the lawn industry? (43:07) - Imagining a lawn-free future 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Craig Brown, Nick Blocha, Lena, Grace Kinney-Broderick, Haley MurphyResearch: Makenna McBriertyEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
Next Season, We're Following the Money
2026/04/08
Season 5 is coming very soon and this season, we're talking about the thing that's on everyone's mind (whether we like or not) — money.  Maybe you've heard that Native American proverb, “Only when the last tree has been cut down, the last fish been caught, and the last stream poisoned, will we realize we cannot eat money.” But, the way we spend our money matters, and as a mindful consumer, financial decisions can feel like a burden — especially when we don’t have much control over them. We can often choose where to spend our money, but we can’t choose what companies do with that money.    Our society doesn’t run on money, it runs on the earth— water, soil, plants, air. As of late — we’ll call it the past 300 years — we’ve had a pretty one-sided relationship with these essentials we need to live and that largely has to do with the fact that what we value and the way we value it is measured in dolla dolla bills. This season we’re talking about —  How the rising cost of groceries is threatening food security in ways you might not expect If giving our money to offsets is actually worth itThe companies that are lobbying for fossil fuelsHow everyday people are footing the bill for data centersDecades of war propping up the fossil fuel industry, and how that extends to our front lawns.What it’s going to take to get proper investment in sustainable aviation fuelSubscribe so you don't miss an episode! 📱 Want to make your money count? Download the Commons app . 📞 Want to submit to the show? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Editing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham
We Want to Hear from You! Season 5 Call for Submissions
2026/03/27
Have you always wanted to be one of the worldwide community of voices you hear on Second Nature? Now's the time! We're accepting submissions for season 5 and we can't wait to hear from you. For the best shot at getting on season 5, please send in your submissions by April 3. But feel free to continue submitting through April as well.  Submitting to the show is easy! Fill out this form to start your submission to Second Nature.After you fill out the form, you'll receive questions based on the topics you chose, with details about how to submit your audio.Record your audio and send it our way! (00:00) - We want to hear from you on season 5! (00:40) - How to submit
Reconnection Through Reciprocity: Learning From Nature
2026/02/25
All season, we’ve rooted ourselves in community. Inspired by vast, underground webs of mycellium we’ve shared ways to create local networks of support, information, and resilience. We’ve talked about how we can use our collective power to prep for climate disasters, protect the water, and use our dollars to resist consumption and combat greenwashing.  On this episode, we're ending the season by reminding ourselves that we’re part of nature and that we can look to our fellow animals, as well as plants and fungi, at any time for lessons in community, resilience, and patience.   📱 Download the Commons app. 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit your Community Classified? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Amber Sit, Ashley Walker, Grace Hebert, Justina, Leena Joshi, Kasia Hertz, Inanna McCarty, Gabrielle Gustilo, Janna, Hockenjos, Mary KleneEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham (00:00) - Introduction (01:41) - We’re all connected (03:40) - What our community has learned from nature (09:17) - Tracing back the thread of life with Robin Wall Kimmerer (29:14) - Looking back at season 4 and what’s to come
Where Did All the Water Go?
2026/02/18
Humans have a way of abstracting nature so far from its source that we take something as huge and powerful as water and isolate it, viewing it only as a resource for ourselves rather than an integral part of something much, much bigger than our sinks, showers, and dishwashers. ‍ On this episode, we’re going to try to shrink the distance between ourselves and the water that keeps us alive, we’re going to hear how you’re connecting with water, and we're going to take stock of the ecological and financial impacts of trying to control water. Plus, we’re going to talk to journalist Erica Gies about how we need to change our relationship with water for our safety, our health, and the health of the ecosystems we’re a part of. 📱 Download the Commons app. 🌎 Find citations and further reading in the full show notes. 📞 Want to submit your Community Classified? We'd love to hear from you! 📷 Follow Second Nature on Instagram. Episode Credits Listener contributions: Ally, Braden Marazzo-Nowicki, Leïla Six, Louka, Markos Delaportas, Nick Blocha, Sunseed Desert Technology, Tavia, Danielle BirdEditing and engineering: Evan Goodchild‍Hosting and production: Katelan Cunningham (00:20) - Where does our water come from? (01:45) - What is water bankruptcy? (04:35) - Our relationship with water (09:37) - How did we get here? (31:48) - How much is our water neglect costing us? (34:19) - Community classifieds

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4.7 out of 5
89 reviews
★★★★★
Lee-oh-nuh 2026/06/07
Very inspiring :)
This show is a very great start to learning on how we not only as a society, but also as individuals can do our part in forming a more efficient world...
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ethan_r1co 2026/04/30
Thank you commons
Found this show through commons, I highly recommend using the app! It’s a very easy way to begin learning how to live more sustainably.
★★★★★
Tab-Fong 2026/02/26
So glad I discovered this
My first listen was on the episode of reciprocity and I’m very excited to keep listening!
★☆☆☆☆
our3aces 2026/02/23
Whiny and Obnoxious
Lots of vocal fry and high horses makes it very difficult to listen to.
★★★★★
Zia Padora 2025/09/20
What a relief
Great podcast that is informative and action-oriented but doesn’t leave me feeling hopeless. The microplastics episode is especially great — anything ...
★★★★★
NemikSaysTry 2025/05/30
Glad I Found This
I don’t remember how I found Second Nature. Maybe some time in March when I was spinning out on social media and desperately unhappy with current even...
★★★★★
LadyLees 2025/05/04
Love Nature? You’ll Love This Podcast.
Climate change is so big and scary, it’s easy to get anxious, or even worse, numb. The antidote? Action. This podcast provides practical tips with a g...
★★★★★
Nathan RB 2025/03/27
Accessible, thoughtful, engaging
Second Commons and its host Katelan does a great job exploring sustainability topics in a way that is accessible and leaves you knowing more and also ...
★★★★★
sarahsginsworld 2024/12/01
Perfect pod
So so so glad I finally gave this pod a listen bc now I’m hooked and better for it. Host is amazing, production quality top notch and most importantly...
★★★★★
appalachianapple 2024/11/16
Thoughtful and optimistic
This is a fantastic podcast for anyone looking to learn more about how our small actions can help us achieve collective sustainability and not feel al...
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