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Send us a text Jordan leads the nonprofit Disclosure Foundation, a nonprofit supporting policy, legal and education actions to advance official disclosure and coordinate societal response thereto. He comes to this role after a 20-year career in corporate finance—he's a sharp tack and a good guy. We're honored to host him and learn about his work. Hope you enjoy! Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Cultivate ConverationsFund and Organize ScienceHold Government AccountableEducate and Encourage the MediaPublicly Contact Nonhuman IntelligencesHappy New Year, everyone! Wishing you a fun, successful 2026.  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text A fun one for the end of 2025—this is my honest best guess about what's going on with UFOs. All the details from their origin to the time they've been here to their overarching agenda. Just pure, unfiltered, wild-eyed speculation. Hope you enjoy!  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text What's actually going to happen? I've thought hard about it and this is what I think is likely.  1. A Presidential Address 2. An NHI Reveal 3. A Gradual Realization In this fun, punchy episode, I tease out these possibilities and drive toward what I think we should be doing to prepare for and encourage them.  Happy holidays everyone. I wish you and your loved ones all a peaceful, healthy season.  3  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  | Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  |  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  |  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text The main engines of American news media do a terrible job covering UFOs. What should they resolve to improve?  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text I'd like to start a conversation here and invite you to participate. Please meet us on our YouTube Community page to engage in the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO/community Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text I've been making WTUFO since the summer of 2024, so I take an episode here to share what I think is happening with UFOs, what my show is for, and what we should all do about this wild situation.  Thank you for listening!  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  The bullet points I cover in this episode are:  1. What Is Happening? a) NHI on Earthb) Military Secretsc) Emerging Physics2. What Is WTUFO For? a) Normalizing the UFO Conversation b) Exploring Different Perspectives c) Finding Action Steps3. What Should We Do? a) Wake People Upb) Fund More Sciencec) Engage Publicly With NHII'd love to hear what you think! Come chime in on YouTube or at the show's Patreon Page. Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Brenda is a mostly retired writer, editor, and sometime speaker currently living in rural North Carolina. She received her Ph.D. in religious studies from Duke University in 1998 and is the author of The Lure of the Edge: Scientific Passions, Religious Beliefs, and the Pursuit of UFOs, (University of California Press, 2001), a couple of invited chapters in scholarly books on religion and the UFO sub-culture, and a few articles on UFOs and religion. Her current interest is in mining humanity’s folkloric and religious traditions to better understand the provenance and nature of “the gods,” the gentry, elementals, jinn, angels/demons, and similar entities in terms that treat them as something other than fictions with no more substance than mirrors into which we look to regulate, console, or understand ourselves as human beings. Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees   Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/   Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO   Join WTUFO YouTube Membership:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Dr. James Madden teaches philosophy at Benedictine College. He's written three books, including "Unidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World."  We discuss how to think carefully about UAP, the probabilities of their origins, the tension between caution and productive investigation, what it would take to prove UAP are nonhuman, and the possibilities of contact.  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Join WTUFO on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  Join WTUFO on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Jim's Papers: https://www.jdmadden.com/philosophy-course  Jim's Substack: https://jdmadden.substack.com/  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Karin Austin leads both the Center for the Impossible at Rice University and the John Mack Institute. In the 1990's, Karin worked with the late Harvard psychiatrist, John E. Mack, M.D., contributing her own experiences to his research into the abduction phenomenon, and eventually transitioning into the role of his personal assistant.  After Dr. Mack's death in 2004, Karin was pivotal in helping Dr. Mack's family close his estate, an effort that eventually led to collaborating with Wilson Research Center's Head of Special Collections, Amanda Focke, and Rice University's Dr. Jeff Kripal, to transfer and digitize a major donation of Dr. Mack's phenomenon-related materials.  The archives of the Center for the Impossible have grown to include collections from more than a dozen UFO researchers. Karin is leading the effort to digitize these materials, preserving them for future investigation and making them increasingly accessible for scientifically rigorous data analysis.  The specific nature of this work makes up the bulk of our conversation. We also discuss Karin's views of the phenomenon and her perspective on how humanity should proceed as we steadily learn more about it.  Show Links:  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join Center for the Impossible Records Collection: https://archives.library.rice.edu/repositories/2/classifications/25?&page=1  Archives of the Impossible Home: https://impossiblearchives.rice.edu/  John Mack Institute Home: http://johnemackinstitute.org/  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Dr. Stephen Bruehl cowrote two blockbuster papers on transient points of light in 1950s astronomy pictures. He explains to us why these findings are unlikely to be anything other than reflective physical objects in geosynchronous orbit.  Join WTUFO: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Multiple Transients Paper: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1538-3873/ae0afe  Nuclear Association Paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-21620-3  Press Release: https://www.su.se/english/news/unexpected-patterns-in-historical-astronomical-observations-1.855042  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Jim's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/QuirkZone  Jim's Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4DxSG1jjl1gPnF6xYrU2Cz  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Seth has a masters in psychology and works in fintech. He also podcasts about aliens with a cheerfully comedic bent. You can fond his show The Spiritual Skeptic here: https://thespiritualskeptic.buzzsprout.com/ Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Brett's faculty page: https://mcgrath.nd.edu/about/faculty-staff/brett-robinson-ph-d/  Brett's Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA0ah6Xmqus  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO  Join WTUFO YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow

Send us a text Moneypenny on X: https://x.com/nic_moneypenny  Spacefare Shop: https://spacefare.etsy.com/  Music by John Hubbell: https://mathoftrees.bandcamp.com/album/math-of-trees  Join WTUFO on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1dX8lyn1zQSLelJ_cU2TQ/join  Support the show Support WTUFO: https://www.patreon.com/WTUFO | Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhatTheUFO | Say hi: https://x.com/WTUFOshow