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2024/05/30
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2026/02/06
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The Dolls Podcast spotlights ladies from the 60s and 70s who inspire cohosts Emma Rosa Katharina and Abigail Devoe. With each episode they’ll share the story of one actress, activist, musician, groupie, or fashion icon, with the purpose of proving her lasting influence. They may have lived in the time of the Whiskey A Go-Go and Studio 54, but celebrating the women of yesterday still matters today. Keep the shindig going with @thedollspod on Instagram!
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Florence Ballard: The Real Effie White
2026/02/06
“She was a beautiful person, loving and warm...She was down-to-earth, she loved to laugh, and everyone loved her.” - Marvin Gaye, on fellow Motown star and original Supreme Florence Ballard
This week, the Dolls Pod presents the true story behind the Tony-winning musical “Dreamgirls,” and the very real woman that was its muse. Both Jennifer Holliday and Jennifer Hudson won Academy awards for their portrayals of Effie White, based on the fiery founder of the Supremes. Florence Ballard sang on 16 of their top 40 hits, and 9 of their number ones. But she did not have the happy ending Effie gets in “Dreamgirls.” She’s often called “the Lost Supreme,” as she was virtually erased from the group’s history. But as this episode will show you, Flo Ballard was anything but “just a backup singer.” She was brave in the face of hardship and a true trailblazer; the soul of Motown’s first girl group. “Florence Ballard: The Real Effie White” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🎤
(Episode starts at 4:50)
Sources used for this episode:
Peter Benjaminson, “The Lost Supreme: The Life of Dreamgirl Florence Ballard” (2009)
Nelson George, “Where Did Our Love Go? The Rise and Fall of the Motown Sound” (2007 ed.)
Randall Wilson, “Forever Faithful: A Study of Florence Ballard and the Supremes” (1987)
Mary Wilson, “Dreamgirl: My Life as a Supreme” (1986)
Maxine Ballard Jenkins, “The True Story of Florence Ballard” (2007)
“Unsung” season 2 episode 4, “Florence Ballard” (6/28/2009)
“Mary Wilson Gets Emotional Remembering Florence Ballard” via SiriusXM on YouTube, 9/24/2019
Songs used in this episode:
Jennifer Hudson - “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going” (From the soundtrack of “Dreamgirls”) [2006]
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers - “Why Do Fools Fall In Love” (1956)
Ray Charles - “The Right Time” (1958)
Smokey Robinson and the Miracles - “Shop Around” (1960)
The Primettes - “Tears of Sorrow” (1961)
The Supremes - “Buttered Popcorn” (1962)
The Marvelettes - “Please Mr. Postman” (1961)
The Contours - “Do You Love Me” (1962)
Mary Wells - “You Beat Me To The Punch” (1962)
The Supremes - “When The Lovelight Starts Shining Through His Eyes” (1963)
The Supremes - “Where Did Our Love Go?” (1964)
The Supremes - “Baby Love” (1964)
The Beatles - “Money (That’s What I Want)” (1964)
The Supremes - “Stop! In The Name of Love” (1965)
The Supremes - “You Keep Me Hangin’ On” (1966)
Vanilla Fudge - “You Keep Me Hangin’ On” (1967)
The Supremes - “Ain’t That Good News” (1965)
The Supremes - “People” (1967)
Scott McKenzie - “San Fransisco” (1967)
Florence Ballard - “It Doesn’t Matter How I Say It” (1968)
Sheryl Lee Ralph, Loretta Devine, and Jennifer Holliday - “Dreamgirls” (From the original Broadway cast recording of “Dreamgirls”) (1982)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode!
Jennifer Juniper: An Interview with Jenny Boyd
2026/01/23
We have a very special guest for our season 3 premiere! Thanks to Emma, we got to chat with “Jennifer Juniper: A Journey Beyond The Muse” author Jenny Boyd about her time as a model in swinging London, San Fransisco during the Summer of Love, with the Beatles in India, and on the road with Fleetwood Mac at the height of their fame. We also got to talk about her earning her doctorate, exploring the creative process in her thesis “Musicians in Tune”/“Icons of Rock,” her work in the addiction recovery field, and an exciting new project. It’s well and truly a journey beyond being a muse. Thank you Jenny for joining us this week!
Plus, Emma gives a life update on her growing family and how she found her midcentury dream home! “Jennifer Juniper: An Interview with Jenny Boyd” is available now wherever you stream your podcasts 💐
Jenny’s website: www.thejennyboyd.com
Sources used for this episode:
Jenny Boyd, “Jennifer Juniper: A Journey Beyond The Muse” (2020)
Jim Farber, “‘It’s not what you think’: Behind the star-studded life of a rock star’s wife” The Guardian, 3/30/2020
Songs used in this episode:
Donovan - “Jennifer Juniper” (1968)
Fleetwood Mac - “Purple Dancer” (1971)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
Oh, Yoko! Part 2
2025/08/22
“I think that love will never die. Once you know somebody, you can never unknow that person. And knowing is loving. So you never can get out of love.”
The Dolls Pod Beatle Girl miniseries concludes! Part two of our “Oh Yoko!” episode focuses on her music, activism, and of course, we tell the ballad of Yoko and John.
Also: car seats and nurseries and baby names, oh my! Emma is settling into her last few weeks before baby arrives. Join us for the emotional season two finale of the Dolls Podcast, available wherever you stream your podcasts ☁️
Sources used for this episode:
David Sheff, “Yoko” (2025)
Jann Wenner, “Lennon Remembers” (2000)
David Sheff, “The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon & Yoko Ono” (edited by G. Barry Golson, 1981)
Cynthia Lennon, “John” (2005)
May Pang with Henry Edwards, “Loving John” (1983)
The Beatles, “Anthology” (2000)
Alan Clayson, Barb Jungr, and Robb Johnson, “Woman: The Incredible Life of Yoko Ono” (2004)
J. Hoberman, “Everything Is Now: The 1960s New York Avant-Garde - Primal Happenings, Underground Moves, Radical Pop” (2025)
Elvis Mitchell, “Yoko Ono” Interview Magazine, 11/26/2013
Lisa Carver, “Yoko Ono: A Reconsideration” The New York Times, 10/19/2012
“One To One: John & Yoko” (dir. Kevin MacDonald and Sam Rice-Edwards, 2025)
“Classic Albums: John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band” (dir. Matthew Longfellow, 2008)
(Episode starts at 7:08)
Songs used in this episode:
Yoko Ono - “Yes, I’m A Witch” (2007)
Plastic Ono Band - “Give Peace A Chance” (1969)
Yoko Ono - “Don’t Worry Kyoko” (1969)
John Lennon - “Mother” (1970)
John Lennon - “Imagine” (1971)
“Glee End Credits Theme” (2009)
Yoko Ono - “Approximately Infinite Universe” (1973)
John Lennon - “Beautiful Boy” (1980)
John Lennon - “Just Like Starting Over” (1980)
Yoko Ono - “Talking To The Universe” (1995)
Fiona Apple - “I Want You To Love Me” (2020)
Yoko Ono, Kim Gordon & Thurston Moore - “Mirror Mirror” (2012)
Death Cab For Cutie - “Waiting For The Sunrise” (Yoko Ono Cover) [2022]
John Lennon - “Oh Yoko!” (1971)
With samples from Monday Night Football, 12/8/1980, and Yoko’s Grammys acceptance speech, 2/24/1982
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
Oh, Yoko! Part 1
2025/08/15
“The average rating of our podcast is too high,” we lamented. “Let’s incite a mob of one-star reviews just for covering Yoko Ono!” We giggled, as we rubbed our little hands together like flies.
Season 2 of the Dolls Pod is going down screaming, or whatever you call those distinct vocal stylings. The fifth episode of our Beatle Girl miniseries is here, focusing primarily on Yoko Ono’s life and art before meeting “JOOOOOHN!”
If you hate Yoko, you will hate this episode. If you love Yoko, you will hate this episode. “Oh, Yoko!” is available now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌊
(Episode starts at 4:58)
Sources used for this episode:
David Sheff, “Yoko” (2025)
Jann Wenner, “Lennon Remembers” (2000)
David Sheff, “The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon & Yoko Ono” (edited by G. Barry Golson, 1981)
Cynthia Lennon, “John” (2005)
May Pang with Henry Edwards, “Loving John” (1983)
The Beatles, “Anthology” (2000)
Alan Clayson, Barb Jungr, and Robb Johnson, “Woman: The Incredible Life of Yoko Ono” (2004)
J. Hoberman, “Everything Is Now: The 1960s New York Avant-Garde - Primal Happenings, Underground Moves, Radical Pop” (2025)
Elvis Mitchell, “Yoko Ono” Interview Magazine, 11/26/2013
Lisa Carver, “Yoko Ono: A Reconsideration” The New York Times, 10/19/2012
“One To One: John & Yoko” (dir. Kevin MacDonald and Sam Rice-Edwards, 2025)
Songs in this episode:
Miles Davis Quintet - “Nature Boy” (1955)
The Beatles - “Tomorrow Never Knows” (1966)
The Beatles - “Julia” (1968)
John Lennon & Yoko Ono - “Two Virgins Side One” (1968)
Rainbo (Sissy Spacek) - “John, You Went Too Far This Time” (1969)
The Beatles - “The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill” (1968)
The Beatles - “Revolution 9” (1968)
The Beatles - “Don’t Let Me Down” (Take 1/Rooftop Performance, 1/30/1969)
The Beatles - “The Ballad of John and Yoko” (1968)
with samples from “Get Back” (dir. Peter Jackson, 2021)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
Linda McCartney: The Life Behind the Lense
2025/08/01
Our 4th episode of the Dolls Pod Beatle Girl miniseries is all about Lovely Linda!
As Linda Eastman, she was one of rock-and-roll’s premiere photographers, capturing the likes of Jimi Hendrix and The Rolling Stones, and the first woman to photograph a Rolling Stone cover. As Linda McCartney, she was an animal rights advocate and one half of one of rock-and-roll’s most beloved couples. With Linda’s love, Paul soared to new heights. Linda was proof you don’t have to choose between being a working woman, a rock-and-roll woman, and a domestic goddess. She truly did it all! (Plus, Abby recounts her visit to the World’s Tallest Filing Cabinet.) Earn your “Wings” with the latest episode of the Dolls Pod, available wherever you stream your podcasts 📸
(Episode starts at 7:45)
Sources used for this episode:
Danny Fields, “Linda McCartney: The Biography“ (2000)
Alan “Paul McCartney’s Tribute to Linda McCartney“ The New York Times, 6/23/1998
“Wingspan“ (dir. Alistair Donald, 2001)
Songs in this episode:
Buddy Clark - “Linda” (1947)
Paul McCartney - “The Lovely Linda” (1970)
Paul McCartney - “Maybe I’m Amazed” (1970)
Paul McCartney - “Man We Was Lonely” (1970)
Paul McCartney - “Kreen-Akrore” (1970)
Paul & Linda McCartney - “Ram On” (1971)
Paul & Linda McCartney - “Long-Haired Lady” (1971)
Paul & Linda McCartney - “Monkberry Moon Delight” (1971)
Suzy and the Red Stripes - “Seaside Woman” (1977)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for photos and clips from this episode, including Abby’s copy of the 1/31/1974 issue of Rolling Stone with Paul and Linda!
Pattie Boyd: The Real-Life Layla
2025/07/18
“It was like hitching a ride on a shooting star: a fantastic experience that caused immense pain, but I’m glad I had it…That sort of experience doesn’t come twice.”
Except when it does.
You know the story, you know the songs, but there’s so much more to the woman behind them. Episode three of the Dolls Pod Beatle Girl Miniseries is dedicated to rock-and-roll’s Helen of Troy: Pattie Boyd.
Pattie’s story is a lot more than meets the eye. She broke generational cycles, gained her independence (the hard way,) discovered her self-worth, and finally found herself after decades of living in song. (Plus: Abby hears 99 Luftbaloons in a bagel shop and goes straight to Emma for the story.)
Pattie Boyd: The Real-Life Layla is up now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌹
(Episode starts at 4:56)
Sources used for this episode:
Pattie Boyd with Penny Junor, “Wonderful Tonight: George Harrison, Eric Clapton, and Me” (2007)
Pattie Boyd, “My Life in Pictures” (2022)
Eric Clapton, “Clapton: The Autobiography” (2007)
Kenneth Womack and Jason Kruppa, “All Things Must Pass Away: Harrison, Clapton, and Other Assorted Love Songs” (2021)
Chris O’Dell with Katherine Ketcham, “Miss O'Dell: My Hard Days and Long Nights with The Beatles, The Stones, Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, and the Women They Loved“ (2009)
Cherry Marshall, “The Cat Walk” (1978)
“Eric Clapton: Life in 12 Bars” (dir. Lili Fini Zanuck, 2017)
“Clapton Admits Abusing Wife” Associated Press, 6/27/1999
“Taylor Swift Interviews Rock ’n’ Roll Icon Pattie Boyd on Songwriting, Beatlemania, & the Power of Being a Muse” Interview Magazine, 7/10/2018
Songs in this episode:
Nena - “99 Luftballons” (1983)
The Beatles - “A Hard Day’s Night” (1964)
The Beatles - “I Need You” (1965)
The Beatles - “Norwegian Wood” (Take 1, from “Anthology 2 Version”) [1965/1966]
George Harrison - “Dream Scene” (From the “Wonderwall” soundtrack) [1968]
The Beatles - “Birthday” (1968)
The Beatles - “Something” (Studio Demo) [1969]
Derek and the Dominos - “Bell Bottom Blues” (1970)
Derek and the Dominos - “Layla” (1970)
Eric Clapton - “Wonderful Tonight” (1977)
Eric Clapton - “Pretty Girl” (1983)
with samples from Pattie’s L’oreal Shampoo ad (1966,) her Smith’s Crisps ad (1963,) and “A Hard Day’s Night” (dir. Richard Lester, 1964)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
Maureen Starkey: A Life Between The Beats
2025/07/04
“She married Ringo, but she could’ve had Paul, that’s why the lady is a champ!” Episode two of the Beatle Girl Miniseries is about sweet, strong, and rebellious Maureen Starkey. She never wrote a biography and gave very few interviews. She’s the silent fashion icon of the decade. But she was the heartbeat of the backbeat and an emotional refuge for our big-hearted Beatle. And she was no wallflower - it takes guts to sneak to another country with your pop star boyfriend! (Plus, Emma and Abby chat about DIY wins, gardening fails, and the joys of pickling.) “Maureen Starkey: A Life Between The Beats” is available now, wherever you stream your podcasts. Thanks, Mo! 💇♀️
(Episode starts at 6:47)
Sources:
Alan Clayson, “Ringo Starr: Straight Man or Joker?“ (1992)
Nicola Bardola, “Ringo Starr: Die Biographie“ (2020)
Ringo Starr, “Postcards from the Boys“ (2004)
Chris O’Dell with Katherine Ketcham, “Miss O'Dell: My Hard Days and Long Nights with The Beatles, The Stones, Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton and the Women They Loved“ (2009)
Pattie Boyd with Penny Junor, “Wonderful Tonight: George Harrison, Eric Clapton, and Me“ (2007)
Cynthia Lennon, “John” (2005)
The Beatles, “Anthology“ (2000)
Graeme Thomson, “George Harrison: Behind the Locked Door“ (2013)
Peter Brown and Steven Gaines, “The Love You Make: An Insider's Story of The Beatles“ (1983)
Songs used in this episode:
Rory Storm and the Hurricanes - “Rip It Up” (Live at The Jive) [1960]
The Beatles - “Some Other Guy” (1962)
George Martin, “Ringo’s Theme” (1964)
The Beatles - “With A Little Help From My Friends” (1967)
The Beatles - “The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill” (1968)
Frank Sinatra - “The Lady Is A Champ” (1968)
Paul McCartney - “Little Willow” (1997)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
Cynthia Lennon: More Than Just The Mrs.
2025/06/20
“For far too long now, Mum has put up with being relegated to a puff of smoke in Dad’s life and that is simply not the truth. Now it’s time to set the record straight.” - Julian Lennon, about his mom, Cynthia
At face value, it’s the classic tale of “boy meets girl, boy is in a band, boy’s band becomes the biggest band in the world.” But wait, what about the girl? Though much of her story was dictated by her first husband’s career, Cynthia Lennon was a whole lot more than just the Mrs. The first episode of the Dolls Pod’s Beatle Girl Miniseries is up now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🤍
(Episode starts at 5:35)
Sources used for this episode:
Cynthia Lennon, “John” (2005)
Bill King, “Interview with Cynthia Lennon” Beatlefan Vol. 4 No. 2-3 https://beatlefansomethingnew.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/the-beatlefan-interview-with-cynthia-lennon/
Gerry in Liverpool, “White Feather: The Spirit of Lennon” That’s How The Light Gets In, 8/3/2009 https://gerryco23.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/white-feather-the-spirit-of-lennon/
“White Feather: The Spirit of Lennon” via jamiebeatles on YouTube, 6/29/2009 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFwP2oFv6lE (originally in “White Feather” exhibition at The Beatles Story museum, summer 2009)
Songs used in this episode:
The Beatles - “Til There Was You” (Live on the Ed Sullivan Show, 2/9/1964)
Gene Vincent - “Ain’t She Sweet” (1956)
Chuck Berry - “Maybellene” (1955)
The Quarrymen - “That’ll Be The Day” (1958)
Tony Sheridan and The Beatles - “My Bonnie” (1961)
The Beatles - “She Loves You” (1963)
The Beatles - “I Want To Hold Your Hand” (Live on the Ed Sullivan Show, 2/9/1964)
The Beatles - “Help!” (1965)
The Beatles - “Hey Jude” (1968)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode, including Cynthia’s art!
Cherie Currie: Neon Angel
2025/05/30
She’s a rock star, she’s a mom, she’s the ch-ch-ch-ch-cherry bomb! Plucked from the LA club scene for her fierce style, Cherie Currie went from never having sang before to fronting the biggest all-girl rock band of all time. The Runaways lit up the stage, sold out arenas, and recorded best-selling albums, all before Cherie was out of high school. Then she put down her microphone for a CHAINSAW and entered the world of competitive wood carving! Cherie’s life is just as wild as her music is.
Plus, Emma and Abby mull over an alternate universe in which they were band geeks instead of podcasters and confess some of their own teenage antics 👀 Hear about it all on the new episode of the Dolls Pod, available wherever you stream your podcasts 🍒💣
(Episode starts at 7:38)
Sources:
Cherie Currie, “Neon Angel: A Memoir of A Runaway” (2010)
Tony Shaffer, “The left’s war on women and children with Cherie Currie” The Hard Truth with Tony Shaffer, 4/1/2024
“Ex-Runaways’ Cherie Currie Interview - Band’s Turbulent Times, Incident w/ Rush, Kidnapped & Kim Fowley” by The Metal Voice, YouTube, 7/14/2024
Songs used in this episode:
David Bowie - “Time” (Live at the Universal Amphitheater, 9/5/1974)
The Runaways - “Cherry Bomb” (1976)
The Runaways - “You Drive Me Wild” (1976)
The Runaways - “Queens of Noise” (Live in Tokyo, Japan, 1977)
Cherie Currie - “Beauty’s Only Skin Deep” (1978)
Cherie Currie - “Reverie” (2015)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!
Ann Moses: In Her Own Words
2025/05/16
“It was, after all, 1970. No Twitter, no websites, no email. Bags of fan mail five feet high arriving at the studio every day – no possible way to read or answer them. How to respond to tens of thousands of fans, mostly girls in their early teens, some who wrote every day? They really needed to hear back from me…Tiger Beat, in the person of Ann Moses, was on the set, in the studio, and in my life.” - Bobby Sherman
It’s a very special day on The Dolls Pod! We are joined by editor of Tiger Beat magazine, NME columnist, and “Meow! My Groovy Life with Tiger Beat’s Teen Idols” author Ann Moses. She speaks about her groovy career, getting swept off her feet by a pop star or two, motherhood, a touch of Walt Disney magic, and finding her happily ever after. Ann is such a wonderful storyteller, you won’t want to miss this one!
We’re thrilled to present Ann Moses: In Her Own Words on the Dolls Pod, available wherever you stream your podcasts. Thank you Ann for sharing your stories and photos with us! 🐯
(Episode starts at 4:55)
Resources used for this episode:
Ann Moses with Ann Wicker, “Meow! My Groovy Life with Tiger Beat’s Teen Idols” (2017)
Songs used in this episode:
The Chordettes - “Lollipop” (1958)
Elvis Presley - “Don’t Be Cruel” (1956)
The Dave Clark Five - “Bits and Pieces” (1964)
Dino, Desi & Billy - “I’m A Fool” (1965)
The Monkees Theme Song (1966)
Elvis Presley - “Hound Dog” (“Elvis’s Comeback Special,” 1968)
The Bee Gees - “To Love Somebody” (1967)
The Association - “Never My Love” (1967)
James Taylor - “Your Smiling Face” (1977)
Follow Ann on Instagram: @annmosestigerbeat
Read more of Ann’s stories here!: http://www.annmoses.com
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Jane B: The Life & Love of Jane Birkin
2025/05/02
She practically invented jeans, literally had a bag named after her, and charmed the world with her breathy voice and carefree attitude. Not to mention she was the original Penny Lane, before Almost Famous! This week’s Doll is actress, singer, activist, style icon, and one of Emma’s greatest muses, Jane Birkin.
From her schoolgirl years in England through her career as a French icon, her famous friends, three great loves, and her love for her family, Jane truly lived her life to the fullest. After all, “When you’re recognizing you’re having fun, life can be delightful.” Hear all about Jane B. on this week’s episode of the Dolls Podcast, available wherever you stream your podcasts 👜
(Episode starts at 9:18)
Materials used for this episode:
Jane Birkin, “Munkey Diaries” (2018)
“Jane By Charlotte” (dir. Charlotte Gainsbourg, (2021)
Sean Seddon, “’French icon’ actress Jane Birkin dies at 76” BBC News, 7/16/2023
Kim Willsher and Sophie Zeldin-O’Neill, “Jane Birkin, actress and singer, dies aged 76” The Guardian, 7/16/2023
Peter Allen, “Jane Birkin died ‘on her first night alone for almost two years,’ family reveal” The Standard, 7/19/2023
Natalie Corner, “‘She was gone for years’: Charlotte Gainsbourg reveals her mother Jane Birkin couldn’t speak or get out of bed as she grieved for her daughter Kate” Daily Mail, 11/12/2017
“Jane Birkin and her chic basket” The Chic Flaneuse, 3/28/2017
Songs used in this episode:
Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin - “Je t’aime moi non plus” (1969)
Jane Birkin - “Di doo dah” (1973)
Jane Birkin - “L’anamour” (1996)
Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for photos and clips from this episode, and our Dolls Pod Bingo sheets!
Cass Elliot: Don't Call Her Mama
2025/04/18
“The first thing you noticed about her was her face. It was an amazing face; fast and funny and beautiful. She was a big, eat-the-world, pass-the-bourbon, soft kind of woman.” - Denny Doherty, on his Mamas and The Papas bandmate Cass Elliot
You can call her fancy, you can call her plain, but don’t call her Mama anymore! Trish, AKA DJ Flower Power of The Hippie Hour, joins Emma and Abby for an episode dedicated to the one she loves: heart and soul of the Mamas and the Papas and Laurel Canyon queen, Cass Elliot. Plus: Abby’s got some important Holy Land USA developments and Trish shares some of her favorite highway attractions. Only a little bit of hair was harmed in the making of this special episode of the Dolls Podcast, available wherever you stream your podcasts 🌼
Follow Trish on Instagram! @cosmichippietrish
Listen to The Hippie Hour live on Friday evenings, 4-6 PM ET on 99.3 WBTV: http://www.993wbtv.org
Listen to previous Hippie Hour episodes on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/WBTVLP/playlists/the-hippie-hour/
(Episode starts at 7:38)
Materials used for this episode:
Owen Elliot-Kugel, “My Mama, Cass” (2024)
Songs used in this episode:
The Big Three - Wild Women Don’t Get The Blues (1964)
The Big Three - Young Girl’s Lament (1963)
The Mamas and Papas - Creeque Alley (1967)
The Mamas and Papas - Monday Monday (1966)
The Mamas and Papas - Dream A Little Dream of Me (1968)
Crosby, Stills & Nash - You Don’t Have To Cry (1969)
Cass Elliot - Make Your Own Kind Of Music (1969)
Cass Elliot, Mary Travers, and Joni Mitchell - I Shall Be Released (on the Mama Cass Television Program, 6/26/1969)
Julian Fulco Perron - Intermission (2022)
Cass Elliot - Don’t Call Me Mama Anymore (1973)
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The Shangri-Las: Leaders of the Pack
2025/04/04
“I don’t think teenage years are all that rosy for a lot of people - they certainly weren’t for me. They are the most confusing time of people’s lives and there is a tremendous dark side to the record, which I think teenagers related to.” - Mary Weiss of the Shangri-Las, on their greatest hit “Leader of the Pack”
It was no wonder punk rockers love the Shangri-Las so much. They had the courage to be fashionable, fierce, and vulnerable in a music industry that just wasn’t built for them. This week’s story is a wild tale: stolen song credits, banning from BBC radio, and organized crime - the drama is so wild, it reads like a Shangri-Las song! Sometimes the truth is stranger than motorcycle-crashing fiction. PLUS: What do Abby and Emma really think of the casting for the upcoming Beatle biopics? And what on earth is Holy Land USA?? “The Shangri-Las: Leaders of the Pack” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🏍️
(Episode starts at 6:14)
Lisa MacKinney, “Dressed In Black: The Shangri-Las and Their Recorded Legacy” (2025)
Laura Flam and Emily Sieu Liebowitz, “But Will You Love Me Tomorrow: An Oral History of the ‘60s Girl Groups” (2023)
“Boom: A Film About the Sonics” (dir. Jordan Albertsen, 2024)
Gerri Hirshey, “We Gotta Get Out of This Place: The True, Tough Story of Women in Rock” (2001)
Kim Gordon, “Girl In A Band” (2015)
“Mary Weiss Comes Back For A ‘Dangerous Game’” Fresh Air on NPR, 3/6/2007
Suzi Quatro, “Suzi Quatro’s Heroes of Rock ’n’ Roll: Interview with Mary Weiss” BBC Radio 2, 10/24/2007
“Amy Winehouse: In Her Own Words” The Guardian, 7/22/2012
The Everly Brothers - Bye Bye Love (1957)
The Shangri-Las - Simon Says (1964)
The Shangri-Las - Remember (Walking In The Sand) [1964]
The Shangri-Las - Leader of the Pack (1964)
The Shangri-Las - Give Him A Great Big Kiss (1965)
The Shangri-Las - Out In The Streets (1965)
The Sonics - Have Love Will Travel (1965)
The Shangri-Las - How Pretty Can You Get (Revlon Natural Wonder Jingle) [1965]
The Shangri-Las - I Can Never Go Home Anymore (1965)
The Byrds - Eight Miles High (1966)
Bob Dylan - Fourth Time Around (1966)
The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows (1966)
The New York Dolls - Looking For A Kiss (1973)
Sonic Youth - Little Trouble Girl (1994)
Mary Weiss - My Heart Is Beating (2007)
With sample from Stranger Things S4 Vol 2 E9
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So long, Marianne Faithfull
2025/03/21
“Never apologize, never explain - didn’t we always say that? Well, I haven’t, and I don’t.” - the late, great Marianne Faithfull
Few women in rock-and-roll history embody the idea of, “Don’t be the rock star’s girlfriend, BE the rock star” like this week’s Doll. This week we remember singer, actress, fashion icon, and “queen of the underground,” Marianne Faithfull. Marianne refused to be just another pretty face in the ‘60s hit parade. She refused to be called a “survivor” - but let’s face it, she was. Over and over again, she came back from the brink of destruction. She forged ahead each time, having been better for it. Through all her trials and troubles, she held her head high and never lost her spark - gotta love a woman who hangs a portrait of her ex over her toilet! Hear about Marianne’s incredible life on the Dolls Pod, available wherever you stream your podcasts 🕊️
Plus, Emma has a BIG announcement to make…you won’t want to miss this one!
Materials used for this episode:
Marianne Faithfull with David Dalton, “Faithfull: An Autobiography” (1994)
John Hind, “Marianne Faithfull on Her Formative Food Experiences” The Guardian, 3/12/2011)
Marianne Faithfull on the South Bank Show, ITV, 6/24/2007
Marianne Faithfull, “Anita Pallenberg Remembered By Marianne Faithfull” The Guardian, (12/17/2017)
(Episode starts at 6:16…but you won’t want to skip this intro!)
Songs in this episode:
Marianne Faithfull - As Tears Go By (1964)
Marianne Faithfull - This Little Bird (1965)
Marianne Faithfull and Joan Baez (and Bob Dylan’s typewriter) - As Tears Go By (1965)
Marianne Faithfull - Hier ou Demain (from “Made in the USA,” dir. Jean-Luc Godard [1966])
Marianne Faithfull - Is This What I Get For Loving You (1967)
Marianne Faithfull - Sister Morphine (1969)
The Rolling Stones - Wild Horses (1971)
David Bowie and Marianne Faithfull - I Got You Babe (on “The Midnight Special,” 10/19/1973)
Marianne Faithfull - Why’d Ya Do It (1979)
Marianne Faithfull - The Ballad of Lucy Jordan (1979)
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Tammi Terrell: Sweetheart of Motown
2025/03/07
“She knew who she was at a young age. She was able to pick herself up, dust herself off, and literally keep going no matter what cards were dealt to her.” - Ludie Montgomery, about her big sister Tammi Terrell
She was alive for just 24 years, but Tammi’s voice is immortal in pop music history. Her songs with Marvin Gaye have been sampled by Amy Winehouse, Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, Method Man and Mary J. Blige, and The Notorious B.I.G. When her fans are the greats, you know she was great herself! Tammi’s irrepressible spirit inspires us all to live life boldly, love openly, and shine brightly. There is no mountain high enough and no river wide enough to hold you back. “Tammi Terrell: Sweetheart of Motown” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 💚 Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode!
Materials used for this episode:
Ludie Montgomery with Vickie Wright, “My Sister Tommie: The Real Tammi Terrell” (2024 ed.)
David Ritz, “Divided Soul: The Life of Marvin Gaye” (1991 ed.)
Unsung Season 3, episode 2, “Tammi Terrrell” (TVONE Network, 2010)
Art Peters, “The Ordeal of Tammi Terrell” Ebony Magazine 11/1969
(episode starts at 4:07)
Songs in this episode:
Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - You’re All I Need To Get By (1968)
Mickey and Sylvia - Love Is Strange (1957)
Tammy Montgomery - If You See Bill (1961)
Ella Fitzgerald - Misty (1960)
Tammi Terrell - I Can’t Believe You Love Me (1965)
The Temptations - My Girl (1965)
Marvin Gaye - How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) [1965]
Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - Ooh, The Simple Things (Coca Cola Jingle) [1967]
Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - Ain’t Nothing Like The Real Thing (1968)
Tammi Terrell - Come On and See Me (1966)
Amy Winehouse - Tears Dry On Their Own (2006)
Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell - Ain’t No Mountain High Enough (1967)
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VintageGal15 2026/02/01
My Favourite Podcast!
My favourite podcast! I love learning about dolls I didn’t know about and seeing other takes on ladies I love!
Feathered hats!!! 2026/01/27
I love this
I’m a 12 year old boy and this is my version of Roblox it’s just such a great podcast two of my fav YouTubers colabing keep up the great work
Guitargirl71 2026/01/24
My new favorite podcast
I love this podcast! Thank you for sharing the stories of the amazing women of the 60s and 70s!
Yummy168 2026/01/23
Hola!!
IM SO HAPPY FOR SEASON 3 I CANT WAIT FOR NEW EPISODE IVE BEEN LISTENING TO YOU GUYS EVERYDAY!! L
leah ♥ 2026/01/08
Love seeing their growth!
I have been listening to this podcast since the beginning. Emma and Abby have grown so much from the beginning, and you can tell how much more comfort...
yvgimnghjgt 2025/06/17
Thanks Emma!
I wouldn’t have known about this fabulous podcast unless Emma hadn’t brought up this episode went I commented on her post about Brian Wilson and his a...
SpongeBobbyHil589 2025/09/22
Swifties stuck in the 60's
Probably better had they just remained Swifties. asserting obnixious modern finger wagging cancel culture onto the 60's. they will gush over some h...
Eargrater 2025/09/09
Listen to these women
Let’s get real here. I’m a 60+ man who has spent my life throwing myself into the dude-centric world of 60s and 70s rock and roll. These two women hav...
ani.w.w 2025/07/12
Needs work 🤷🏼♀️
I usually don’t like it when podcast hosts are clearly reading from a script, but in this case, I would actually prefer that they did. Too much little...
BW in LA 2025/06/24
Disappointed
Really disappointed with the recent Cynthia Lennon episode and the hosts’ minimizing of John Lennon’s domestic violence. They insist it was only “one ...
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