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The BREAK—DOWN

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2024/05/31
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2026/11/06
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The BREAK—DOWN is a not-for-profit media project publishing new writing and conversations on capitalism, nature and the climate. Our work is made possible by our listeners and readers—to support us, go to www.break-down.org/subscribe-now/

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Data Centres and Growth Mindsets w/ Paris Marx
2026/11/06
ADRIENNE BULLER and PARIS MARX break down the AI and data centre boom, from the thirst for land, energy and water to the fantasies of Silicon Valley scions. From the material weight of the "cloud" to the communities resisting big tech's intrusion into their lives, they ask how the future of the planet is bound up with the digital world. PARIS MARX is a Canadian tech critic and host of the acclaimed Tech Won’t Save Us podcast. He speaks around the world about the politics of technology and writes the Disconnect newsletter. Paris is the author of Hyperscale: Ambition, Power, and the Relentless Rise of Data Empires.
LIVE: The Mineral Age with Isabel Estevez and Emily Iona Stewart
2026/11/02
The supply and control of "critical mineral" supply chains is now a defining political issue, as the pace of the energy transition collides with rising militarism, geopolitical fragmentation and the AI boom, all of which are driving demand for extraction.In the process, contradictions have emerged, particularly as the pursuit of clean energy alternatives places pressures on both communities and ecosystems on the frontlines of extractive industry.In this conversation, recorded as a live episode of The Break—Down at the 2026 Partners for a New Economy conference in Bonn, Adrienne speaks to Isabel Estevez and Emily Iona Stewart about the present and future of critical minerals, and what it all means for people and planet. This conversation was recorded live at Partners for a New Economy (P4NE)'s 𝐍𝐞𝐰 𝐄𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐞𝐬 𝐆𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 on 13th October 2026 in Bonn.
Understanding China w/Tim Sahay, Li Shuo and Jeremy Wallace
2026/10/15
It is by now all but impossible to have a meaningful conversation about climate politics without including China. At the same time, misunderstandings and the astonishing pace of development with respect to China's role on the world stage mean that these conversations can easily collapse into a simplistic binary: China as the world's green energy saviour, or as its oppressive coal-burning bogeyman. How, instead, should those of us committed both to the climate and to justice relate to China? The answer is complex, as the panelists for this live episode make clear. Perhaps the strongest thread running through this conversation is a warning not to treat China as a monolith, overcoming both the uncritical optimism of “Chinamaxxers” and the equally shortsighted tendency among Western commentators and think tanks to fixate on China as a military and economic threat. To think through the climate crisis today and understand what is to come, we must try to see the country as it actually is, in all of its complexity and apparent contradiction. One thing is certain: for all of us, wherever we are, there is no route out of the climate crisis that does not run through China. This conversation was recorded live at the Verso Books offices in Manhattan on 23rd September 2026, in partnership with Phenomenal World and The Polycrisis.
A Crisis of Ideas w/Joel Wainwright
2026/09/17
"The Left is in a serious crisis of ideas." Those are the simple and fairly damning words with which our guest, Joel Wainwright, opened his interview with our Editor Adrienne Buller. In a wide-ranging conversation, Adrienne and Joel discuss his extensive work trying to make sense of the specific relationship between capitalism and the climate crisis—drawing this connection not in some general sense, but with attention to the very specific logics, institutions and processes through which capitalism model wreaks ecological havoc. They cover Marx, Darwin, the nuclear age, what "The Anthropocene" really means and, critically, where we go from here. Joel Wainwright is a Professor in the Department of Geography at Ohio State University, where he teaches about political economy, environmental change, and social theory. He is the author of Climate Leviathan (with Geoff Mann, 2018), Decolonizing Development (2008), and, most recently, The End: Marx, Darwin, and the Natural History of the Climate Crisis (2025).
Latin America Turns Right – Guillaume Long on the Politics of Extraction and US imperialism in South America
2026/08/20
In April this year, the Colombian city of Santa Marta hosted the first Conference on Transitioning Away from Fossil Fuels. The conference was a landmark gathering which sought to shift the terms of the international climate debate away from technocratic squabbling to the far more pointed question of “How can we end fossil fuel use?”. Much of the impetus for that conference was led by then-Colombian president, Gustavo Petro, who, on the campaign trail in 2022, had pledged to wean Colombia off what he called “suicidal” fossil capital.Yet, just a few months later, the Colombian left would lose a narrow presidential election to the far-right challenger, Abelardo de la Espriella. In this, Colombia is not alone. Latin America, once home to the Pink Tide of left-wing governments, has experienced a series of political defeats for the left alongside the rise of an emboldened political right, whose emblematic examples are the Trump-esque figures of Nayib Bukele in El Salvador and Javier Millei in Argentina.How do we account for this shift in the politics of Latin America? And what does it mean for the climate movement, not just in Latin America but across the globe?This week, we’re joined by Guillaume Long, a senior policy analyst at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, DC. He previously held several cabinet positions in the government of Ecuador and most recently served as Ecuador’s permanent representative to the United Nations in Geneva. This episode was recorded in late June 2026 Our guest today is Laleh Khalili, a Professor of Gulf Studies at the University of Exeter and author of several books, including Sinews of War and Trade. In this episode, she breaks down the mess of the US-Israeli war on Iran, shifting relations among the region’s petro-states, the US as an empire in decline, and the future of global energy.
CONTINENTAL SHIFT Ep 4: Extraction North of Empire
2026/07/30
In Canada, intensive resource extraction has long been baked into the country’s political economy and, arguably, to nation-building itself. Resource booms and policy choices have opened landscapes and livelihoods to large-scale mining and fossil fuel extraction, producing harms that are inseparable from the country’s colonial history. Today, as supply chains are restructured around critical minerals and trade regimes are overhauled, Canada faces urgent questions about sovereignty, consent, and justice: can extraction be reimagined in ways that respect Indigenous rights and ecological limits? Or will new geopolitical pressures and rising tensions with countries like the United States simply deepen old harms?  To explore these questions, we spoke with Jess Dempsey, a professor at UBC, and Jamie Kneen of MiningWatch to get to grips with the state of Canada’s extractive industries. Later, we were joined by Tara Marsden, an independent consultant from the Lax Ganeda (Frog) Clan of the Gitksan peoples, who has spent 30 years advancing sustainable development and operationalizing free, prior and informed consent, and who spoke to us about how the history and shifting terrain of extraction in Canada has been shaped by the struggle for Indigenous sovereignty.
CONTINENTAL SHIFT Ep 3: Extraction South of Empire
2026/07/23
The ratification of NAFTA (the North American Free Trade Agreement) in 1994 transformed Mexico in profound ways. Over the next thirty years it deepened and expanded the resource frontier across the country, disproportionately benefiting national and global elites. Mining activity exploded, and with it the socio‑ecological violence that follows large‑scale extraction. Anti‑extractivist struggles cannot be ignored—especially as Morena, the self-proclaimed progressive political party that holds power in Mexico after breaking seven decades of political duopoly in 2018, tries to navigate competing pressures.  Morena’s landmark program—the so-called “Fourth Transformation"—frames greater state involvement and control over strategic resources and royalties as a means to fund social programs and reclaim national sovereignty, though its policies and outcomes remain uncertain. This episode offers a closer look at extractivism in Mexico, tracing developments from the colonial silver boom to state‑led industrialization and from neoliberal open‑pit expansion to present-day state-led extractivism. Darcy Tetreault and Sol Pérez Jiménez join us from Mexico to offer granular historical knowledge and field‑based evidence, mapping how policy and capital have reshaped labor, land and water regimes. We discuss the deepening of resource frontiers, the persistence of elite mining interests, and the complex, contested forms of resistance—from legal reforms to grassroots refusal and struggle for territorial autonomy.
CONTINENTAL SHIFT Ep 2: A (Not So) New Gold Rush
2026/07/16
The term “critical minerals" suddenly seems to be all over the headlines. Securing access to this group of commodities, from familiar metals like lithium and copper to more obscure “rare earth elements” like yttrium, appears to be a growing priority of world leaders—particularly for those who consider China, currently the world's main producer of most critical minerals, a threat. But what exactly what makes these commodities so “critical” in the first place? Who defines them as such, and who benefits from that decision? In fact, whether a mineral is “critical” depends on who you ask, and what their strategic priorities are—whether that's producing electric vehicles, fighter jets, or AI infrastructure. Importantly, extracting these minerals has profound human and ecological impact. This is what makes their governance so challenging: because even in many green utopian visions of the future, with a world powered by renewables and running zero carbon transit, there’s no side-stepping either the need for these minerals, or some of the harms involved in their extraction. What, then, can be done? How should we understand the sudden push to control critical mineral supply chains? What is their role in competing visions of the future? How might we reduce the harms of extraction—can there ever be a form of extraction that is genuinely just or “sustainable”?  To answer these questions, in this episode we're joined by Thea Riofrancos and Emily Iona-Stewart. Thea Riofrancos is Associate Professor of Political Science at Providence College and author of Extraction: The Frontiers of Green Capitalism. Emily Iona-Stewart is Head of Policy and Advocacy at Global Witness.
CONTINENTAL SHIFT Ep 1: Free Market Fictions and Trade Frictions
2026/07/09
Welcome to Continential Shift, a series from The Break—Down and Geopolitical Ecology, where we examine the global rush for critical minerals and the struggle for resource dominance on the North American continent. The phrase "trade regimes" may sound dry, but these rules and agreements are a defining architecture of the global economy. They determine who gets to exploit a country’s resources, and who profits from it. They determine whether states can be sued by private investors and corporations, or whether domestic sovereignty—of the state, or of Indigenous peoples, for example—is protected. In our first episode we’re joined by historian Quinn Slobodian and economist Isabel Estevez to unpack how longstanding trade rules, investor protections and liberalization have shaped how resources are extracted and governed in North America.  After the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement entered limbo last week when negotiators failed to make the July 1st deadline for agreeing a new deal, those same rules and institutions are suddenly more shaky than they’ve been for years, raising big questions about how, and in whose interest, the global race to dominate critical minerals will be run. Continental Shift is made possible by support from the Public Scholars Initiative at the University of British Columbia.
LIVE: War and Peace in a Warming World w/Adam Hanieh, Guillaume Long, Samar Al-Bulushi and Lorah Steichen
2026/07/03
On Friday 26 June, The BREAK—DOWN, Transition Security Project, and King’s College London co-hosted a public panel called “Securing The Future? War and Peace in a Warming World” as part of the Climate Security Forum during London Climate Action Week. In a panel featuring Samar Al-Bulushi (UC Irvine and Quincy Institute), Adam Hanieh (Director of SOAS Middle East Institute and author of Crude Capitalism), Guillaume Long (Fellow at CEPR and diplomatic advisor to the Hague Group) and Lorah Steichen (Transition Security Project), we unpacked the historical and ongoing relationship between fossil fuels and war; new forms of imperialism in the pursuit of resource dominance; the geopolitical re-alignments emerging from the energy transition; and new opportunities for collaboration in the effort to build a more sustainable, secure world. Go to our website to ⁠⁠become a member⁠⁠ and get your copy of our latest issue - and follow us on our ⁠⁠socials⁠⁠.
Iran, Oil and Empire w/Laleh Khalili
2026/06/15
Last night, after more than 100 days since the US and Israel went to war against Iran, the US and Iran reached a partial framework for peace. When the war began at the end of February, it was all but impossible to make sense of the irrational explosion of violence. In the months since, that sense of irrationality has hardly ebbed, not least as the economic impacts of the war and resulting closures of the Strait of Hormuz—on food and oil prices, and on the supply of goods like ammonia and aluminium—have begun to bite.The destructiveness of this war is clear. Less clear is what it could mean for the future of an industry at the heart of the region and the conflict: oil. Our guest today is Laleh Khalili, a Professor of Gulf Studies at the University of Exeter and author of several books, including Sinews of War and Trade. In this episode, she breaks down the mess of the US-Israeli war on Iran, shifting relations among the region’s petro-states, the US as an empire in decline, and the future of global energy.
LIVE: Airborne Launch w/ Geoff Mann, Daniela Gabor and Oliver Eagleton
2026/06/01
We're celebrating the launch of The BREAK—DOWN's spring issue, Airborne! On May 6th, we hosted a live podcast where Adrienne Buller was joined by Geoff Mann, Daniela Gabor and Oliver Eagleton to discuss climate crisis through and beyond the contents of AIRBORNE. ISSUE #3: Airborne The engines of industrial production that power the modern economy release vast quantities of carbon and pollutants into the air, seeping into our soil, our water, and even our bodies. Air pollution alone is responsible for around ten million deaths each year. And yet this everyday emergency has not fundamentally reshaped how we understand our place in the world. This issue explores the tensions between global causes and local effects, between the invisible and the immediate, by looking closely at the air itself: the medium that surrounds us, connects us, and sustains life, even as it is increasingly contested and compromised. Featuring essays by Adam Almeida and Shruti Iyer on the inequalities of air pollution across time and place, from New York to India; Zsuzsanna Ihar on a spaceport in the outer Hebrides; Vera Huwe on the political history of air travel; Mae Losasso on the origins of “the environment” in airborne chemical warfare; Cecilia Rikap on Big Tech and the cloud; Drew Pendergrass on complexity and planning; Natasha Heenan on the politics of climate repair; a photo essay by Amelie David and Ségolène Ragu on the fight for clean air and energy in Beirut under renewed military assault; and an interview with journalist David Wallace-Wells. Go to our website to ⁠become a member⁠ and get your copy of our latest issue - and follow us on our ⁠socials⁠.
The Billionaire Machine w/ Hettie O'Brien
2026/03/26
You may never have heard of private equity firms like Blackstone, KKR, Bain Capital or the Carlyle Group, but in recent decades they have quietly become some of the most powerful companies in the world. They own your hospitals, your nurseries, your energy systems. Their reach stretches from formerly public utilities to the home you rent and the food you eat. In their rise to power, they have reshaped capitalism in their own image – all by using debt as a weapon to produce vast returns for the companies who own and control them. The implications for inequality, for how our economy functions, and for the fight to build a sustainable future, are profound. Our guest this week is the Guardian journalist Hettie O’Brien, who is the author of new book The Asset Class: How Private Equity Turned Capitalism Against Itself.
Nuclear is Not the Solution w/M.V. Ramana
2026/02/12
In the mid-20th century, nuclear energy was seen as the technology of the future. Then, questions about its environmental impact and waste, alongside crises like  Chernobyl and Three Mile Island, created a major public backlash, and the construction of new nuclear in places like the US stalled altogether. But as the climate crisis pushes demand for non-fossil fuel energy, nuclear is once again being positioned as the energy source of the future: emissions free and a reliable baseload, ready to be deployed at scale again. As M. V. Ramana, physicist and Professor at the University of British Columbia, argues in today’s episode however, the case for new nuclear power is not just misguided, but potentially dangerous. But the reasons he thinks so might surprise you, going beyond the standard points about accidents and waste to the heart of the political economy of the energy transition. This talk was originally presented in partnership with the How The Light Gets In Festival, held in London in September 2025
How Wall St. Gambles on Your Future w/Ann Pettifor
2026/01/29
We’ve all heard it before: any time a politician tries to put forward a policy that might finally improve people’s lives—think Mamdani's fast free buses, affordable homes, or renewable energy infrastructure—they’re met with the same line: we can’t afford it. Media pundits and technocrats alike obsess over the national debt, balancing the books and not “spooking” the ever mysterious bond vigilantes.  It’s an obsession that paralyses action on the very challenges we most need to meet, from transforming our energy system to providing care for the most vulnerable.  It’s also, as today’s episode explores, deeply misleading.  Our guest today is Ann Pettifor, the esteemed political economist and author most recently of The Global Casino: How Wall Street Gambles with People and Planet, which covers everything from the shocking power of Wall Street to Keynes's legacy to what money really is: in Ann’s view, an incredible human innovation that could be leveraged to transform our world for the better, rather than enrich a small minority. In today’s episode, she tells us how.

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