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Housing Insiders

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This podcast has
58 episodes
Language
English
Date created
2024/08/12
Latest episode
2026/08/26
Average duration
54 min.
Release period
14 days

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The housing market is wonky. From policy changes to financial innovations to pilot projects that make housing more plentiful and affordable, there's a ton of "inside baseball" to discuss and take action on. Each episode, hear the latest developments and trends in home building and home financing - from "sticks-and-bricks" to AI - and learn what you can do to improve the housing industry. Hosted by housing market thought leaders Jonathan Lawless and Jeremy Potter, and featuring interviews with disruptive guests across the housing industry. If you want to see everyone well-housed, tune in. Jonathan Lawless has spent his career promoting innovative solutions to expand access to credit and affordable housing, serving in leadership roles at Fannie Mae and Pathway Homes. He is currently the Head of Homeownership at Bilt Rewards, the first loyalty program that allows customers to earn points when paying their rent. Jeremy Potter is an attorney who led Quicken Loans' Capital Markets Strategy and Innovation team. He also served as General Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer at Norcom Mortgage and currently is Chief Strategist for IncentiFind, connecting real estate developers with green energy incentives.

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Introducing Kelley Blue Book Homes: Jeremy Potter on the Future of Home Valuation
2026/08/26
Big news calls for a special episode. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan interviews Jeremy about the launch of Kelley Blue Book Homes, and his role in the new platform. Hear how Jeremy entered his Appraisal Era, why Kelley Blue Book is adding housing to their legendary offering, how they're getting consumers to start associating the brand with houses, what makes their home valuation approach different, and their vision for growth in the housing industry. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
AI Mortgages: Tidalwave's Diane Yu on Removing the Bottlenecks in the Mortgage Process
2026/08/10
Tidalwave Co-Founder & CEO Diane Yu joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat using AI to remove the bottlenecks in the mortgage process. Tidalwave is your 24/7 AI-native loan assistant, handling data entry, document reviewing, and loan processing for both lenders & borrowers. Hear the aspects of AI that can become gamechangers in the mortgage space, how Tidalwave integrates into the mortgage process, the potential for agentic AI when it comes to mortgages, what's changing in terms of partnerships & referrals in the mortgage industry, and what's on the horizon for AI mortgages. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
Mortgage Month - Part 2: Vellum Mortgage's Patrick Gardner on How AI Can Improve the Mortgage Process
2026/07/27
Vellum Mortgage Principal Patrick Gardner joins Jonathan & Jeremy as a returning guest (without bourbon this time) on this episode of Housing Insiders for Part 2 of Mortgage Month to discuss how AI can improve the mortgage process. Patrick founded Vellum Mortgage to provide transparency and speed to borrowers. Hear how technology & AI can make mortgages easier and more accessible for all, the top AI use cases in the mortgage process, where we're wasting our time when it comes to AI & housing, where we can find real savings by infusing AI in the mortgage process, and how we can leverage technology to finally create more certainty & confidence in the homebuying process. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
Mortgage Month - Part 1: Prosperity Home Mortgage's Justin Messer on Achieving Customer Satisfaction as a Mortgage Lender
2026/07/13
Prosperity Home Mortgage President & CEO Justin Messer joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders for Part 1 of Mortgage Month to chat achieving customer satisfaction as a mortgage lender. Prosperity Home Mortgage is a full-service mortgage banker specializing in residential & refinance loans. Hear how they focus on their customer in the complicated mortgage world, the biggest challenges in mortgage lending today, how they're navigating the transitions in credit, how to consistently exceed customer expectations when it comes to mortgages, and their big initiatives looking forward. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
The Intersection of Capital Markets & Housing: Dynex Capital's Byron Boston & Smriti Popenoe on the Role of REITs (Real Estate Investment Trusts)
2026/06/30
Dynex Capital Chairman & Co-CEO Byron Boston and Co-CEO & President Smriti Popenoe join Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the intersection of capital markets & housing, and the role of REITs (real estate investment trusts). Dynex Capital proudly leads the way in mortgage real estate investing, turning residential & commercial real estate into powerful drivers of compelling yields. Hear their dynamic sitting between savers & spenders, how they've managed risk & growth through a variety of market cycles, the key metrics to consider when it comes to capital markets & housing, what many people misunderstand about mortgage rates, and the biggest changes happening now and in the future in the housing finance world. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
Real Estate Agents Aren't Going Away: eXp Realty's Leo Pareja on the Real Estate Brokerage World
2026/06/15
eXp Realty CEO Leo Pareja joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat why real estate agents aren't going anywhere anytime soon, plus the latest happenings in the real estate brokerage world. eXp Realty is the largest independent real estate brokerage in the world. Hear what's actually happening with pocket listings, how the real estate agent experience is changing with technology, what's still misunderstood about real estate agents, where complexity could be better handled in the real estate world, and how he would build wealth as a 25-year-old American today. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
Looking Back at The Year Ahead in Housing: Revisiting Our 2025 Recap & 2026 Predictions for the Housing Industry
2026/06/01
We're almost halfway through 2026. What did we get right? What did we get wrong? What would've been impossible for us to predict? What should we be thinking about for the 2nd half of 2026? These are the questions Jeremy answers to start off this special look back at our 2025 recap & 2026 predictions for the housing industry, originally released in early January 2026. Enjoy!  Another crazy year, another crazy year in the housing industry. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy look back at how their 2025 housing predictions fared and reveal their housing predictions for 2026. Hear what excites them about innovation in the housing industry, how AI will impact lending this year, the housing policy changes that may or may not finally happen, a lightning round of housing takes on real estate & offsite construction, and an impressive amount of Scarlett Johansson shoutouts. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
Making Modular Housing Actually Work: Cloud Apartments' Apoorva Pasricha on Beating the Odds with Modular Multifamily Development
2026/05/18
Cloud Apartments Chief Operating Officer Apoorva Pasricha joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat using tech, partners, and a smart business model to provide an enduring solution for modular housing. Cloud Apartments reduces the cost of multifamily development through intelligent modular design & delivery. Hear why many modular housing companies fail, where their time & cost savings come from, what's unique about the American housing supply chain, how we can improve housing as an economic engine, and how to solve big complex problems like housing & autonomous vehicles. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
Baby Bust, Housing Bust: Author & Washington Examiner's Tim Carney on How America Became Family Unfriendly
2026/05/04
Author, Washington Examiner Senior Political Columnist, and American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Senior Fellow Tim Carney joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the ties between the baby bust & housing crisis in the US. Tim's latest book is Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder Than It Needs to Be. Hear whether the baby bust is a housing issue at its core, the perception that parenting is so hard & miserable, the ideal housing setup for families, the practicality of creative housing solutions like shared equity, and how the future of housing can improve the loneliness crisis. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform
As Goes Detroit, So Goes the Nation: Gilbert Family Foundation & Rocket Community Fund's Laura Grannemann on Housing Lessons from the Motor City
2026/04/20
Gilbert Family Foundation & Rocket Community Fund Executive Director Laura Grannemann joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss housing lessons for the US based on their work in Detroit. The Gilbert Family Foundation (GFF) exists to accelerate a cure for NF1 and grow opportunity and equity in Detroit and our home cities, and the Rocket Community Fund aims to simplify complex and inequitable systems to ensure that every American has access to stable, healthy housing. Hear her clouds & dirt strategy when it comes to housing in Detroit, why Detroit is such an indicator for the health of the national housing industry, how they're reinvigorating Detroit from a residential standpoint, what often holds back cities in the Midwest, and what needs to happen next for the sake of Detroit, Cleveland, and other cities of the Next Belt. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform.
Disrupting the Real Estate Agent Segment with AI: Homa's Arman Javaherian on How to Win as a Housing Startup
2026/04/06
Homa CEO & Co-Founder Arman Javaherian - a former Senior Director at Zillow - joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss disrupting the real estate agent segment with AI. Homa replaces the traditional buyer's agent, combining AI with expert support while returning up to 2% of the purchase price back. They allow you to buy a home without a realtor. Hear why there historically hasn't been much disruption when it comes to real estate agents, how to create more awareness for your solution as a housing startup, whether we'll ever get to the point of AI agents working out deals with AI agents, how to create a better experience for homebuyers, and what else needs to change in the housing industry. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform. This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards
Bonus Episode: Talking Trump's Executive Orders on Housing with Mindset's Jeb Mason
2026/03/23
And just like that, we're back with a Bonus Episode covering more breaking news in housing! In this episode of Housing Insiders, returning guest Jeb Mason of public policy consultancy Mindset joins Jonathan & Jeremy to break down Trump's 2 executive orders related to housing affordability & mortgage credit. Hear what inspired these 2 executive orders in the first place, the impact they'll have on housing supply & home prices, who has the potential to be the major players in the mortgage industry going forward, a look at regulation & deregulation in the housing industry, and whether you can truly impact the future of housing as a startup in the space. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform.  This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards
21st Century ROAD to Housing Act: Baker Donelson's Kara Ward on What's Next for Housing Supply
2026/03/16
Baker Donelson Shareholder Kara Ward joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act, which the Senate recently passed. Hear the most impactful provisions in the bill, why it's being portrayed as anti-investor, the areas where it could actually hurt housing supply, the potential big wins for modular housing, and what the bill means for zoning & building codes. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform.  This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards
Will AI Replace My Job in the Housing Industry? The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis in Housing Finance
2026/03/02
Congrats on surviving the AI crisis. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy take a stab at AI doomsday from a housing lens, inspired by The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis by Alap Shah & Citrini Research. Hear whether AI will make housing tech & human intelligence worthless, what tasks AI will help us finally get done in housing finance, why we're in one of the most protectionist industries, how many white-collar jobs will truly get replaced by AI in the housing industry, and the most thought-provoking use cases for AI in housing. Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform.  This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards
Bonus Episode: Prosperity Now's Chrissi Johnson & Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein On Life after the Starter Home
2026/02/22
In this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders, Jeremy Potter continues the conversation with Prosperity Now's Chrissi Johnson and Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein about the fate of the starter home. The trio's new report, The Starter Home Is Dead. Now What?, is a eulogy to a bygone era of traditional homeownership, but it also offers hope to buyers still trying to get into the market. Whether it's shared equity or rent-vesting, you'll want to hear about some of these alternative pathways and the workarounds real customers are using right now to make homebuying a reality.   Download the white paper here: https://www.prosperitynow.org/news-and-insights/homeownership-in-america-the-starter-home-is-dead-now-what Whether you're a housing professional or simply care about the future of where we live, Housing Insiders delivers practical ideas for shaping a more accessible, resilient housing ecosystem. Don't miss this episode, and subscribe for more expert insights and actionable solutions. Email [email protected] with any questions or comments and Subscribe to Housing Insiders on your favorite podcast platform.  This podcast is brought to you by Bilt Rewards

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5 out of 5
21 reviews
★★★★★
KBurnett176 2025/06/05
Insightful and engaging
These conversations bring a lot of clarity and insight into a very complicated - and often dysfunctional - housing system. They're also fascinating!
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imsoootyler 2024/09/17
Insightful and Accessible Real Estate Expertise
Housing Insiders is a must-listen! Each episode offers amazing insights into the housing and real estate world, but what truly stands out is how helpf...
★★★★★
fort tiktok 2024/09/16
Smart commentary
I appreciate that these two are convening the best and the brightest in housing to jumpstart the conversation. They are unafraid to speak their mind ...
★★★★★
JuniorSeller 2024/08/17
Just what’s needed
This is refreshing. Just what we need these days. I feel so many people are confused on where to go when it comes to housing. I’m excited to hear th...
★★★★★
Nate Den Herder 2024/08/14
A great team
These guys really are insiders who want want to make improvements in housing. They think about how the actions of lenders and regulators impact regula...
★★★★★
Max Branstetter 2024/08/12
Outstanding
Jonathan & Jeremy are 2 of the brightest minds in housing and will blow your mind & crack you up in every episode. Love tuning in for the endless insi...
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