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00:26 - Welcome (back) Tabor Robak 01:40 - Broken Printer and Tabcorp Labs 03:25 - The Tabcorp universe 05:25 - Human Resources and exploring PFP as a genre  11:10 - A critique of corporate culture 12:45 - The process behind Human Resources  16:05 - Traits and rarity   19:00 - Are we the PFPs?    19:57  - Community and the future of Tabcorp  21:50 - Between the traditional and web3 art worlds  25:50 - Determining the number of traits  29:07 - The relationship between Human Resources and Tabcorp  31:05 - Building the network  36:09 - Addressing diversity and conceptual challenges 41:36 - Exploring release mechanics and mint allocations  47:31 - How NFTs have fed into Tabor's broader practice 51:49 - What drew Tabor to NFTs as a medium   55:25 - Challenges and perceptions in the art world  58:20 - Online fatigue and a move back towards IRL 59:49 - Indexing Human Resources  01:03:34 - The simulation as a medium  01:06:20 - Tabcorp Labs artwork updates  01:08:25 - Keeping pace with technological change  01:10:22 - Art as a brand and the studio as a factory   01:13:47 - The social dimension of an artwork  https://www.taborrobak.com  https://x.com/taborrobak Human Resources: https://verse.works/series/human-resources 

01:18 - Welcome Rhea Myers 01:26 - Rhea's journey into art and technology 02:08 - Art school experiences and early career 07:56 - An anthropological approach to the tech industry 10:59 - An artistic approach to programming 17:43 - Blockchain and cultural observations 24:39 - Early days of blockchain and crypto art 37:47 - TORCHED H34R7S 42:05 - Challenges in works that depend on audience participation 44:29 - Cryptocurrency and cultural misunderstandings 46:19 - Blockchain's artistic and conceptual impact 52:17 - Early days of Ethereum and smart contracts 01:01:27 - Art and blockchain: a symbiotic relationship 01:09:51 - The evolution of crypto art and NFTs 01:12:08 - The Fractionalized Phallus and gender identity 01:19:57 - Navigating the art and crypto worlds 01:22:31 - Reflections on the artistic origins of NFTs 01:24:03 - Gallery collaborations and curatorial insights  01:31:20 - Emotional depth, authorship, and personal resonance  01:34:44 - Introducing Koala Noosphere 01:40:02 - The concept of ownership in NFTs 01:52:41 - Future projects and final thoughts

00:26 - Welcome Phil Mohun 01:44 - The vision behind Node Foundation 03:23 - Why Palo Alto? 04:05 - The importance of Silicon Valley 06:14 - The role of Node in the art community 15:09 - Node's programming and seasonal approach 19:02 - Focus on presentation, education, and preservation 25:18 - CryptoPunks and ERC standards 26:36 - Yuga's contribution and collection bids 28:06 - Creating cultural impact and a distinct brand 31:20 - Node's vision and nonprofit model 34:39 - Sustaining Node and community support 43:34 - The importance of physical and digital spaces https://x.com/philmohun  https://x.com/nodefnd?s=21&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw  https://nodefoundation.com/

01:44 - Welcome Terence Broad 02:41 - Terry's early artistic journey  07:16 - Transition to creative computing  14:03 - Exploring AI and generative art  15:45 - DeepDream and AI visual understanding  19:42 - Blade Runner—Autoencoded 25:56 - From Whitney to worldwide  34:12 - Balancing an art and tech career  34:43 - Pursuing a PhD and creative AI  36:09 - Developing (un)stable equilibrium  36:59 - Challenges and breakthroughs  42:36 - Recognition and impact of (un)stable equilibrium  44:08 - PhD experience and artistic practice  50:27 - AI art and data ethics  52:15 - NFTs and connecting with collectors  55:27 - Future directions and inspirations  01:03:38 - Network bending, Teratome and other works  01:09:32 - How AI has shifted perceptions around creativity  https://terencebroad.com   Terence Broad on X  https://verse.works/exhibitions/unstable-equilibrium

00:22 - Welcome Matt Medved  04:34 The Evolution of Media and Culture 06:36 The Birth of NFT Now and Its Mission 08:52 The Gateway: Bridging Traditional and Digital Art 10:42 The Shift to Now Media 15:32 Art Basel and the Digital Art Council 21:51 Meeting the market where it is and growing understanding  24:33 Reflections on Art Basel and Digital Art 26:46 The Future of Digital Art in Traditional Spaces 29:34 Interactive and Immersive Digital Art 33:00 - Highlights and Reflections from the fair 41:02 - Live on the ground inside zero 10 https://nowmedia.co  Matt Medved: https://x.com/mattmedved  Now Media: https://x.com/nowmedia 

01:42 - Welcome Laurie Simmons  04:17 - Early inspiration, New York and formative travel  07:25 - Artistic beginnings and creative identity  12:00 - Politics, rebellion and activism     14:57 - Navigating gender norms and early works   21:45 - AI and artistic evolution  27:55 - Photography and artistic identity  30:26 - Connections and collaborations  32:32 - Meeting kindred spirits in the art world  33:08 - Defining movements and appropriation  35:05 - Rejecting the previous generation’s approach 37:14 - Navigating the art world and personal identity  40:26 - Embracing NFTs and digital art   43:39 - Thinking about the space as a separate art world  47:53 - What causes the stigma around NFTs and AI among legacy artists   50:24 - The changing landscape of the art world  54:40 - Looking forward towards the future  Laurie Simmons: https://x.com/simmonslaurie  Black & White: https://www.alminerech.com/exhibitions/11587-laurie-simmons-black-white 

01:15 - Welcome Refik Anadol 02:07 - Blade Runner, media architecture and early inspirations     03:34 - Defining data painting 04:45 - The concept of data as pigment 07:44 - Fusing art and architecture  10:24 - Viral success and public art 13:49 - Collaborations and technological innovation  16:30 - Defining a medium through a holistic approach  21:27- Building the datasets and creating positive impact  25:10 - Galleries, collectors and shifting understandings  29:10 - Avoiding the hype and staying focused  31:19 - Collaborating with Messi         38:03 - Public perception and criticism  45:08 - Early blockchain exploration 47:25 - Unsupervised at MoMA  48:34 - Balancing physical and digital art 49:41 - Challenges and opportunities in web3 54:27 - The vision behind Dataland  01:00:02 - Thinking in "living systems" 01:03:09 - The role of technology in art  01:07:18 - Art as a celebration of humanity   01:11:59 - Collaborating with Demis Hassabis and Jensen Huang   01:20:44 - Future plans and collaborations  Refik Anadol: https://x.com/refikanadol  https://dataland.art/ Dataland Residency Program: https://dataland.art/blog/introducing-the-dataland-ai-artist-residency

00:50 - Early days and the Art Blocks boom 03:48 - A mixed-media approach to a generative practice  05:02 - From Noise  08:50 - Exploring gestural mark-making through an algorithmic practice  10:39 - The power of messy ideas and an unrestricted output space  15:01 - Where the art lies  16:30 - The curation process behind From Noise  18:21 - Thinking about how the work exists physically  22:55 - Unpacking an artist's need to create and experiment  24:24 - Sketching with code and the genesis of From Noise  27:22 - The pressure in a series-based format  28:59 - Avoiding trends and examining the impact of new technologies  30:50 - Edward Hopper and a lesson in authenticity  33:30 - Detaching from social media  35:20 - What represents personal success  36:30 - Agnes Martin and going all in on the work  37:42 - On Marfa, community and the future of digital art  39:28 - Tyler's personal collection and its impact on his work  41:09 - Rejecting the idea of persona as a brand  42:30 - Exploring the different stereotypes around digital and physical artists   46:15 - The cultural influence of the computer   https://www.tylerxhobbs.com  Tyler Hobbs Studio: https://x.com/tylerxhobbs Tyler Hobbs on Messy Ideas: https://www.tylerxhobbs.com/words/direction-reaction-and-messy-ideas                                                             

00:28 - Welcome (back!) Eli 01:10 – Preparing for Miami Beach 01:40 – Marfa and Las Vegas: Yuga Labs, collectors and community on the road 5:50 – The digital council: advising on the digital art ecosystem 7:08 – Leaning into digital art in a post-hype moment 7:50 – 1,000 m² space at Art Basel Miami Beach + global initiative 9:50 – Cultivating a new audience vs “just more sales” 18:20 – How Zero 10 sits outside the usual Art Basel sector selection process 24:00 – Eli’s curatorial brief 26:56 – Why Beeple Studios and Visualize Value are showing as “exhibitors” 35:50 – Stigma, mainstream recognition and why Eli doesn’t want to sanitise crypto culture 44:50 – Onboarding flows, interactive installations, and how to make it “stick” 49:00 – Market conditions and thin liquidity 49:50 – Pricing, supply, and finding the right stewards vs chasing all-time-highs 01:10:53 – SOLOS without a permanent space 01:15:52 – Node’s role in expanding the collector base 01:18:30 – Eli: From operator to patron and making this his life’s work 01:21:00 – Collective spirit vs competition

00:30 - Welcome OSF  01:40 - Coping with volatility and market panic  03:16 - The origins of RektGuy  06:15 - Managing impostor syndrome  09:15 - A community born in the bear market  10:55 - Pushing against societal definitions of an artist  12:56 - From PFP collection to drinks company  14:19 - The importance of branching out from NFTs  16:50 - Creating brand identity out of the art  19:20 - The pros and cons of launching a token  22:55 - An additive rather than extractive approach  25:21 - The evolution of brand  27:05 - From web3 to the traditional market  30:17 - Riding the wave of crypto adoption  36:08 - The power of organic growth  39:35 - Building a token around identity rather than utility  43:40 - Collecting and a.c.k.  44:37 - The inevitability of digital art  47:13 - Verse rundown  OSF: https://x.com/osf_rekt Rekt Drinks: https://x.com/rektdrinks  a.c.k: https://x.com/lphacentaurikid  artie galerie: https://x.com/artiegalerie Bangarang: https://verse.works/exhibitions/bangarang-week1 Petra Cortright: https://x.com/petcortright Burnt Umber Broken Silver American Spirit: https://verse.works/series/burnt-umber-broken-silver-american-spirit-by-petra-cortright tinysoul: https://x.com/tinysoulgame  Level 1 https://verse.works/series/level-1-by-tiny-soul 

01:08 - Leaving art school and early success   03:15 - Staying true to your artistic voice  06:00 - Whitehawk and Nottingham Forest  07:13 - Frieze Magazine, Transmission Gallery and Err  10:46 - Tapping one's internal monologue  12:04 - The importance of comedy in art  14:15 - Shrig Shop, merchandise and exploring context  19:01 - Chocolate's Not The Problem, You Are The Problem  23:10 - Sales mechanics and managing supply    27:50 - Problem Guitars  28:42 - Exploring NFTs in the context of David's practice  34:50 - How the art world has changed since the 90s  36:18 - Sidmouth School of Art  40:30 - Community art as a political act  44:28 - Where the art world is heading  https://davidshrigley.com  https://shrigshop.com  https://www.instagram.com/davidshrigley 

00:25 - Welcome Motzko  03:22 - Marfa recap   07:50 - Connecting and consolidating relationships  11:28 - Marfa highlights  13:50 - Fallout from the Raoul clip  19:16 - Navigating the social media landscape  26:00 - Motzko's collecting thesis 31:41 - Creating an aesthetic experience while scrolling  34:50 - Outside perspectives and judgments  36:37 - Silicon Valley's silence around NFTs  38:58 - Collecting as a means of self-expression  40:25 - Motzko's artist picks: Rafaël and Lorna  44:55 - New Three.js work and the browser as a medium  50:16 - A question of context and framing  51:30 - Exploring Quine by Larva Labs  57:16 - $PNKSTR  01:03:24 - fxhash opens back up  01:05:22 - Is VVV's continued hype sustainable  01:08:15 - The strength of the Avant Gay community  01:10:55 - The difference in culture across chains  01:15:22 - The issue with aesthetic over saturation  01:16:17 - Tezos and artist collaboration  01:18:18 - William Mapan and Superpositions  01:26:30 - Ivan and Sam's departure from Verse  01:33:44 - Verse rundown  https://motzko.net  motzko: https://x.com/motzko Lorna Mills: https://x.com/lm_netwebs  Rafaël Rozendaal: https://x.com/newrafael Samsy: https://x.com/samsyyyy  William Mapan: https://x.com/williamapan  Larva Labs: https://x.com/larvalabs 

00:35 - Welcome Redbeard  02:58 - Discovering digital art  05:03 - Too many sellers, not enough buyers  09:13 - Debunking the cabal  15:13 - Power laws, high prices and rising tides  18:42 - Building relationships and community  22:30 - Uplifting voices and building on history  23:17 - The importance of open-minded participation  25:55 - Being part of a movement and making an impact  29:08 - Zoom out and refine your focus  31:28 - Collaborate more, compete less  32:44 - Inside the Whitney selection committee  35:05 - Performance art belongs on-chain  36:03 - Institutions help, community leads  40:35 - Expanding the community beyond X  42:38 - Showcasing the human side of the artists  46:20 - Looking past the tweets and connecting in person  50:15 - The value of innovation    Redbeard: https://x.com/redbeardnft

00:40 - Welcome Hilde Lynn Helphenstein 07:20 - Conservatism in the art world  10:02 - Early exposure to different cultures  11:54 - Conceptual Art, new genres and developing a practice  14:01 - The art world as a performance  16:54 - From Hooters to Art Basel  18:09 - The birth of Jerry Gogosian  22:24 - Problems built into the business model  24:43 - AI and the potential valuelessness of art  30:03 - How social media has changed the art world  34:15 - The myth of inclusivity  39:20 - The pandemic, cultural shifts and NFTs  44:36 - The power of physicality in art  48:45 -  We are all memes  50:40 - The power of the network and connection  56:00 - Normalised extremes and impostor syndrome  01:02:10 - The cost of opening up to an audience  01:14:50 - Moving forward and thinking about the future  01:25:10 - Gozo and the importance of texture in digital art  01:30:37 - A missing historical context in NFTs  01:38:30 - What art will look like in the future  01:43:05 - Technophobia and protectionism in the traditional art world  01:49:20 - Cancel culture, polarisation and satire  01:55:52 - A future NFT true believer  Jerry Gogosian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrygogosian  Jerry Gogosian X: https://x.com/jerrygogosian Gozo - an improbable thread: https://verse.works/series/an-improbable-thread-by-gozo  Gozo: https://x.com/uncertaingaze

00:42 - Welcome Sasha Stiles  04:55 - The foundations for an endless curiosity  09:50 - Connecting with Kalmyk art forms  13:40 - From academia to the arts  16:20 - New York, cultural absorption and parallel careers  19:05 - Living through pivotal technological shifts  21:52 - An ongoing cultural relationship with technology  23:20 - Nick Bostrom, Superintelligence and Attention Is All You Need  26:39 - The role of the writer and language in the wake of AI  28:29 - Talk to Transformer, early tooling and digital exploration  32:58 - Working with an AI co-author  33:40 - A constantly evolving data set  35:30 - Defining the art and shaping the system  38:26 - Loss of nuance online and the impact of live performance  41:40 - Identifying as an artist and blockchain as a multi-media printing press  48:20 - 2020 and people connecting online  52:00 - The importance of community and social media  54:38 - The role of a gallery in an artist's career  58:45 - The stresses of a financialized practice  01:00:45 - theVERSEverse and the growth of an experimental collective  01:06:56 - A Living Poem at MoMa  01:11:23 - Situating AI-powered verse in the tradition of text-based art  01:16:19 - Upcoming writing, work and special events at MoMa  Sasha Stiles: https://x.com/sashastiles A Living Poem: https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5839  https://theverseverse.com