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Companies want to own the intelligence that makes their business valuable. So what will that mean for the AI models they use, and the systems they build around them? In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sit down with Justin Boitano, VP of enterprise AI at Nvidia, to explore why NVIDIA is investing in open models and how enterprises are turning them into specialized intelligence. Boitano talks about why NVIDIA makes Nemotron's datasets, training techniques and model weights openly available, how proprietary business knowledge can become a competitive advantage, and why lower token costs can unlock much greater demand for AI. The conversation also examines why the agent harness that manages tools, memory and execution can matter as much as the model itself. Boitano shares how Nvidia worked with CrowdStrike on AI models for cybersecurity, why AI incidents need the equivalent of an aviation flight recorder, and how OpenShell moves agent controls into the infrastructure layer. Other topics covered:• Why NVIDIA is building open models alongside its chip business• What Nemotron needs to compete with China's open models• Owning institutional knowledge, protecting data and controlling AI costs• How model development helps NVIDIA improve hardware efficiency• Why harness engineering is becoming a new frontier for AI• Moving cybersecurity from finding bugs to verifying and fixing them• Transparency and learning from AI incidents• OpenShell, sandboxing and enforceable limits on agent access• How Justin uses Hermes as an AI chief of staff• Jensen Huang's approach to priorities and team alignment If you're deciding how to build enterprise AI, where your company's competitive advantage comes from, or how to give agents useful access without giving them unlimited control, this conversation offers a perspective from Nvidia's work across the ecosystem. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: https://tdv.transistor.fm/  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

AI agents can act faster than humans can review them. So how do companies keep control without slowing everything down? In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, Jason Hiner sits down with Blake Brannon, chief innovation officer and a co-founder of OneTrust, to explore why AI governance needs to evolve from static rules to decisions made in real time. Brannon explains why an agent can inherit an employee's identity and access without inheriting their trust. He makes the case for independent guardian agents that evaluate what other agents are trying to do, apply a company's policies, and redirect or block actions when necessary. One example captures the challenge: deleting CRM records could be routine cleanup or an attempt to inflate a salesperson's performance. The action alone doesn't tell you whether it should be allowed. Its purpose matters. Topics covered: • How OneTrust evolved from data privacy to AI governance• Why first-party data and customer trust go together• Why human review can't keep pace with a growing population of agents• How guardian agents and independent checks could help close the trust gap• The difference between containing AI and aligning it with business policies• Why governance should help companies move faster• What the bring-your-own-device era teaches us about AI adoption• How Blake uses visual storytelling and voice-to-text tools to work more effectively If you're deploying AI agents and trying to move beyond experiments without giving up control, this conversation offers a practical way to think about the systems that need to surround them. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

AI is accelerating cyberattacks. Could it also give defenders the upper hand? In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sat down with Adam Meyers, CrowdStrike's head of counter adversary operations, at Fal.Con 2026 to explore how AI is changing the balance of power between attackers and defenders. Meyers explains why he believes security teams can now match the speed and scale of their adversaries, how CrowdStrike is training offensive and defensive AI models against each other, and why the harness that guides an AI model can matter just as much as the model itself. He shares how changing that harness helped CrowdStrike reduce false positives in its vulnerability research without changing the underlying model, and how cyberdefenders are uniting to assist one another. The conversation also goes inside the live disruption of the Sality botnet, explores how nation-state attackers are using agents that learn from their mistakes in seconds, and examines why powerful AI systems need clear boundaries as they pursue their goals. Topics covered:• Why AI could change the defender's dilemma• How CrowdStrike and its partners disrupted a botnet that had operated for more than two decades• Training red team and blue team models based on Nvidia's Nemotron models and CrowdStrike's security data• Why AI harnesses are critical to reducing hallucinations and false positives• How AI attacks are compressing the time organizations have to patch vulnerabilities• What the Hugging Face incident raises about goal-seeking agents and guardrails• Why local, open-weight models matter to both attackers and defendersIf you're trying to understand what AI means for cybersecurity, how to put agents to work safely, or where specialized models can make a difference, this conversation offers a view from someone tracking the adversaries firsthand. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  Get The Deep View daily newsletter for clear analysis of AI's biggest developments and practical insights you can put to good use: subscribe.thedeepview.com

Nearly every smartphone launched in the past year features agentic AI capabilities, offering users an early look at what a fully agentic smartphone future could do for them. Of course, the tech powering it is driven by the chipsets. In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we talked with Vinesh Sukumar, Qualcomm's VP of AI at the Snapdragon Summit, the company's annual conference where it launches its latest processors. This year, the launch included the mobile platforms Snapdragon 8 Elite Extreme Gen 6 for phones and Snapdragon Sound Elite Gen 2 for wearables. Vinesh discussed how the chipsets came to be, including the special considerations made during their design such as improving connectivity, on-device support for large models, longer battery life, and other features crucial to smoothly running agentic AI applications. We also discussed what the future of a truly agentic AI phone looks like and what's been holding it back. Topics covered: • What an ideal agentic smartphone experience would look like  • The demands agentic AI models make of mobile chipsets • The obstacles to agentic solutions becoming a game changer  • The crawl, run, walk phases of agentic solutions, and where we are now • The role of other smart devices in creating agentic experiences  • How support for a 30 billion MoE on-device model was made possible  • Qualcomm's role in working with partners to bring AI experiences to life If you want to learn more about how the latest chipsets will change the future of Android flagship devices in the next year, including new AI experiences, this conversation will give you a clear idea. 📺 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/YXvw9Gw41Xg  🎧 Listen in your favorite podcast player:  Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology. And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com Disclaimer: Sabrina Ortiz's travel to Snapdragon Summit was paid for by Qualcomm. The Deep View's coverage is editorially independent from the companies we cover.

Can AI move fast and still be safe? As the debate over AI safety and innovation grows more polarized, we explore the practical work of making powerful systems accountable. In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sit down with Navina Singh, CEO of Credo AI, to talk about what AI governance means for frontier labs, enterprises, and policymakers. They explore why governance is broader than regulation, how organizations can test and verify their AI systems, and what happens when capabilities advance faster than oversight. Topics covered: • Why Navrina sees AI safety and innovation as goals that can advance together• What the Hugging Face agent incident raises about frontier AI oversight• The “spectrum of trust,” from internal testing to independent audits and regulation• The risk of regulatory capture and the role of open models• How businesses weigh AI capability, cost, and control while managing "governance debt"• How Credo AI uses forward-deployed governance experts to help companies put oversight into practice• Why expertise, taste, and judgment remain valuable as AI takes on more work If you’re building, buying, or governing AI, this conversation offers a practical way to think about trust without losing sight of the technology’s promise. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

What does it take for companies to use agentic AI to transform the enterprise, without losing control of the technology? In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sit down with Shibani Ahuja, SVP of data and AI strategy at Salesforce, to discuss how one of the world's leading software companies is applying AI with practical use cases, matching governance to risk, and building toward larger transformations ahead.  Salesforce has surprisingly embraced a "headless" AI strategy that lets customers use any AI to access their Salesforce data safely and securely. That includes its own Slackbot, which sits inside one of the world's most widely used business messaging systems. In this interview, we learn more about why Salesforce wants to give customers optionality. Shibani also lays out Salesforce’s four modes of enterprise AI, from everyday assistive tools to agents that can reshape end-to-end operations. We also discuss Koa, Salesforce’s new CRM reasoning model, why the model-plus-harness approach is so critical, and why adaptability may be the defining enterprise skill of the AI era. Topics covered: • Why organizations should start with practical, level-one AI use cases• How Salesforce matches governance and ROI expectations to the risk of an AI deployment• What Koa, Salesforce's AI model built on NVIDIA Nemotron, changes for enterprise AI• Why operating models, process expertise, and professional services matter as much as the latest technology• Shibani's case for AQ: the adaptability quotient for technology stacks and teams If you’re trying to make AI more efficient, safer, and more ROI-driven, this conversation offers a practical framework for how to build it, how to govern it, and where to start. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

Apple's first foldable iPhone makes the case that a bigger screen is better for nearly everything in the AI era. Its new Apple Watch features raise a harder question: how much of our conversations should AI remember? In this special episode of The Deep View Conversations, we record from Apple's campus in California following its September 2026 event to unpack the iPhone Duo, the new Audio Intelligence features in Apple Watch, and what Apple's latest devices mean for AI. We share our first hands-on impressions of the Duo, explain why foldables are becoming more useful for AI agents and multitasking, and examine the price and hardware compromises that come with Apple's new form factor. We also debate Live Rewind and Siri Recap, two new Apple Watch features coming in beta later this year. We disagree on which feature we would feel more comfortable using, opening up a broader discussion about privacy, trust, and staying present. The conversation also covers: • How the iPhone Duo compares with foldables from Google and Samsung • Why Apple's software experience is the Duo's biggest advantage • Camera, battery, durability, and Touch ID tradeoffs • Whether foldables will eventually become the default iPhone • Siri AI, iOS 27, and Apple's approach to other smart features without AI washing • The social questions surrounding AI-generated conversation summaries • The iPhone 18 Pro's camera upgrades and Apple's computational photography • Apple silicon, the A20 Pro, and the possibilities of running AI models locally on a phone If you're following the future of AI in phones and wearables, this conversation connects Apple's announcements to the ways people will actually use them, along with the questions that still need answers. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

AI is transitioning from just answering questions to doing valuable work. The next challenge is making agents more accessible and simple enough that the technical details fade into the background. In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sit down with two members of OpenAI's ChatGPT Work team, Tara Seshan and Ty Geri, to dig into ChatGPT Work and what OpenAI is doing to make advanced agent capabilities useful to a lot more people. We also dig into some of the current challenges and how the team is approaching them.  Seshan and Geri explain how scheduled tasks and proactive assistance are changing the way people start their workdays, why AI lets teams move from debating ideas to testing prototypes, and how personalized software can turn one-off needs into purpose-built tools. They also discuss the challenge of token costs and model selection, why "super app" isn't the most useful framing for ChatGPT and Codex, and what it will take for agents to become more persistent, proactive, and connected. The conversation also covers:• How OpenAI is trying to bridge local and cloud workflows• Why Tara and Ty start their days with agents instead of Slack• Building personal apps and tools without traditional software overhead• The tradeoff between model capability, cost, and user control• More persistent agents and proactive personal assistance• Connecting agents to email, calendars, enterprise systems and third-party tools• Privacy, security and administrative controls for agentic work If you’re figuring out where agents fit into your work or what has to improve before you trust them with more of it, then this conversation offers a practical look at how OpenAI is preparing for that transition. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

AI makes software easier to create, but the harder and more valuable challenge is controlling what gets built, proving that it works, and managing it over time. In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sit down with Florian Douetteau, CEO and co-founder of Dataiku, to explore how large organizations can turn AI agents from impressive demos into safe, maintainable systems that deliver measurable business results. Douetteau explains why enterprise AI models are becoming commoditized, why companies may buy 90% of their agents but build the 10% that differentiates their business, and why the emerging discipline of "agent management" will be essential. He also breaks down the dilemma facing CEOs: move too slowly and competitors may gain a structural cost advantage; move too quickly without control and one major AI failure could create a crisis. Topics covered: • Why the cost of creating with AI is falling toward zero• Where value will accrue as models commoditize• How to balance openness, innovation and enterprise control• Why subject-matter experts must retain ownership of AI agents• Why business problems, not perfect data, should drive data strategy• How enterprises can prioritize transformative AI use cases without stifling experimentation• The three qualities Dataiku now values most when hiring• How leaders can use AI without falling into cognitive laziness If you’re trying to move enterprise AI beyond pilots, govern a growing portfolio of agents or understand where durable value will emerge as AI creation becomes cheaper, this conversation offers a practical framework for building quickly without losing control. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

AI's appetite for compute keeps growing, but so does the pressure to deliver more intelligence per watt and per dollar. Can AMD's first rack-scale AI system open up an ecosystem dominated by Nvidia? In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sit down with Andrew Dieckmann, AMD's general manager of its data center GPU business, to unpack the company's Helios platform and the rapidly changing economics of AI infrastructure.  Dieckmann explains why frontier AI requires more than just GPUs. It demands tightly engineered racks that combine GPUs, CPUs, networking, software, cooling and serviceability. The conversation examines the tension around AI data centers: hyperscalers still cannot get enough compute, while communities worry about power, water and whether the benefits justify the buildout. Andrew argues that responsible deployment and open ecosystems are essential as these systems become intelligence factories. The conversation then turns to Helios: AMD's performance claims against Nvidia Vera Rubin, pricing and value, the first likely customers, and the Cerebras partnership for high-throughput, low-latency inference. Andrew closes with his advice for leaders navigating AI velocity: reassess priorities more often and use coding agents as force multipliers for scarce engineering talent. Topics covered: • Why AMD is moving from chips to full rack-scale systems• AI demand, data center constraints, and community impact• Open hardware, open software and customer choice• How agentic AI changed infrastructure planning• Helios performance, efficiency, pricing and customers• AMD Helios versus Nvidia Vera Rubin• How AMD and Cerebras split inference workloads This conversation offers a clear look at the technology and economics shaping the infrastructure that will power everyday AI and the breakthroughs to come. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

AI's next power shift isn't gonna happen in a data center.  In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sat down with Jeff Morgan, co-founder and CEO of Ollama, to explore why open models are gaining momentum, and why enterprises and developers increasingly want more control over their AI. Morgan explains how Ollama grew from a two-week experiment into software used across 80% of the Fortune 500, how the economics of coding agents are pushing teams toward open models, and why cost, privacy and control are becoming decisive advantages. He also breaks down the hardware shift bringing data-center-class AI workloads to Apple silicon, Nvidia DGX Spark and systems powered by AMD, Intel and Qualcomm. The conversation also covers: • How the team behind Docker Desktop came to build Ollama• Why open models could soon process the majority of enterprise AI tokens• The role of harnesses, tool calling, routing and subagents• How Ollama fits into the open-source AI stack and where its business model comes in• Why new US and European open-model labs are emerging• Why companies may need to own and customize their intelligence layer If you’re interested in open models, coding agents, enterprise AI or the shift from cloud-only AI to powerful local systems, this conversation offers a clear look at where the ecosystem is heading. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

For almost a decade, foldable phones have been a product looking for a problem to solve. They may have found their lane. In a special episode of The Deep View Conversations, we make sense of Google's and Samsung's latest hardware and the AI announcements that came with them. But mostly, we talk about the new folding phones, the Pixel 11 Pro Fold and the Z Fold 8.   While folding and flip phones have existed for years, this summer both Google and Samsung upped the ante by launching new experiences that let AI enthusiasts make the most of the added screen real estate for AI workflows.  Topics covered include: The new AI features available on the Pixel 11 phones How Gemini contributes to the AI experience on mobileDoes Google still have the lead in AI hardware?The minimal hardware improvements to the Pixel devicesThe advantages of owning a foldable in the AI era How Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold 8 series comparesThe advantages of the Z Fold 8's "passport" form factorHow Apple's foldable, rumored to launch in September, will compete  If you're trying to understand how AI is changing what you can do with a smartphone, and what your next phone purchase should be if you prioritize AI, you won't want to miss this episode.  Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transistor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

AI bubble talk is rearing its head again, but the context is very different from the conversations in late 2025.  In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we unpack the common arguments about an AI bubble and explain why reality naturally falls somewhere in between the doomsayers and AI absolutists.  We look at AI's "Tinker Bell problem": the boom depends partly on people continuing to believe in AI's potential, even as public skepticism grows. Beneath that belief cushion, enterprise contracts drive most of AI labs' revenue, while strong hyperscaler earnings and compute shortages suggest durable demand is building.  We debunk a viral claim that a $200 Claude subscription costs Anthropic $8,000 to serve. We also look at enterprises' push for more control, efficiency and measurable ROI, including one company's claim that some engineers' token use costs 1.5 times their compensation.  Other topics include:• Training, inference, API pricing and token economics• Real value, snake oil and the hype cycle• Why AI demand outruns compute supply• Why the AI bubble may look more like bubble wrap• Market rotation into energy and materials  If you're trying to separate durable AI demand from hype and understand where a real correction could begin, then this conversation offers a framework for thinking about what may pop, what may deflate and what may keep growing. Keep in mind that this is industry analysis and not investor advice.  Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

The smartphone has been built around apps and taps for nearly two decades. Google thinks AI will fundamentally change that. In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we talked with Sameer Samat, president of Android ecosystem at Google, about what the company means when it says it's transforming Android from an operating system into an intelligence system.  Samat explains why the next generation of computing could shift us from micromanaging our devices to simply telling them what we want to accomplish. We dig into how AI agents could navigate apps and complete multistep tasks and why those agents need to follow us across phones, computers, cars, watches and glasses. And what happens to the app-centric model that has defined smartphones for the past 15 years? We also get into some of the practical ways this is already taking shape. Samat discusses Google’s app automations and Rambler, the new Google Keyboard experience that can turn your voice brain-dumps into polished text. He also explains how Google is thinking about permissions, sandboxing and human oversight as AI agents gain the ability to take action on our behalf. The conversation goes well beyond the phone. We talk about why smart glasses and cars could be especially powerful interfaces for AI agents, what Google learned from the original Google Glass, and why the best AI features may be the ones consumers barely think of as AI. Other topics covered include:• How AI is already changing work inside Google• Why product managers can now build functional prototypes themselves• Samat's favorite overlooked AI tool• His "calendar cleanse" strategy for getting time back If you’re trying to understand where mobile computing goes next, what AI agents will actually look like on phones, and how Google plans to weave intelligence across devices, this conversation offers insights into what the company is building and why. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com

What comes after large language models? In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we talked with Zuzanna Stamirowska, CEO of Pathway, to explore why her team believes today’s dominant AI architecture has fundamental limits, and what it could take to move beyond them. Pathway is developing Dragon Hatchling, a new architecture designed to give AI native memory, continual learning, and a different approach to reasoning. Stamirowska explains why today’s LLMs can appear to remember without actually internalizing what they learn, why reasoning through language creates its own constraints and costs, and how Pathway is trying to build models that can think in a more abstract way.  The conversation looks at how those architectural changes could affect hallucinations, interpretability, safety, and the enormous compute demands of modern AI. Stamirowska shares how her background in complex systems and game theory shaped Pathway’s approach, why the company made an early bet on challenging the transformer, and how the AI coding revolution has already radically changed the way her own team works. Topics covered:• Why transformers struggle with memory and continual learning• How Pathway’s Dragon Hatchling architecture works• How a different architecture could reduce compute costs• How interpretability could make advanced AI more predictable• Why Pathway’s engineers have largely stopped writing code themselves• How Stamirowska uses Codex, Claude Code, and other AI tools• Why leaders should be ruthless about identifying the critical path If you’re interested in what could come after today’s LLMs, and whether the next big leap in AI will require more than simply scaling transformers, this conversation offers a fascinating look at one of the teams betting on a fundamentally different path. Subscribe to Deep View Conversations for interviews with the leaders shaping the future of AI, business, and technology: tdv.transitor.fm  And don't forget to sign up for The Deep View daily newsletter. We don’t just cover AI, we decode it. In a world flooded with hype, we deliver sharp, no-nonsense insights to keep you ahead of the curve and help you put AI to work every day: subscribe.thedeepview.com