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DebtTalks

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36 episodes
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Sciences Po
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Date created
2024/10/11
Latest episode
2026/09/30
Average duration
38 min.
Release period
22 days

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How do countries incur in debt? And why does debt become unsustainable? How debt crises are triggered, and how a small nation managed to bring the Euro area on the edge of collapse? I am Paola Subacchi (https://www.sciencespo.fr/psia/sovereign-debt/the-team/), and this is DebtTalks, the podcast of Sciences Po Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance. With my guests I’ll be discussing the economics and politics of debt, exploring past and current episodes of debt distress, examining legal controversies, and much more. Join us for the latest insights and stay tuned on DebtTalks. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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Debt, investment and impact
2026/09/30
This episode explores how development finance can unlock private investment where it matters most. From supporting Ukraine’s recovery and strengthening economic resilience to mobilising capital, creating jobs and driving sustainable growth, Ines Rocha, Division Director for Western, Central and Eastern Europe, Ukraine and Moldova, IFC, World Bank Group, shares how public and private finance can work together to turn investment into lasting impact. Hosts & Guests: Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies.From 2019 to 2024 she was at Queen Mary University of London, where she helped establish the Queen Mary Global Policy Institute. Previously, she directed the International Economics Research Department at Chatham House (The Royal Institute of International Affairs) in London.Ines Rocha, Division Director for Western, Central and Eastern Europe, Ukraine and Moldova, IFC, World Bank Group, leads the IFC’s work across Western, Central and Eastern Europe, with a focus on mobilising private investment, supporting sustainable growth and strengthening the private sector. She has more than 20 years of experience in development finance and capital markets, including senior roles at the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD), where she helped lead the institution’s response to the war in Ukraine and mobilise support for the country’s economy and private sector. Earlier in her career, she worked at UBS Investment Bank and the Central Bank of Portugal. Production : Paola Subacchi Coordination : Nathalie Corvée Musique : Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Debt in a higher-rate world
2026/09/21
In this episode, Paola sits down with Sonja Gibbs to unpack the shifting global debt landscape – tariffs, supply-chain strain and higher interest rates driving up government and corporate borrowing. They discuss what it means for debt sustainability and bond markets, and how emerging economies can use stronger investor relations, transparency and domestic capital markets to attract long-term finance. Hosts & Guests: Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partnerat Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. From 2019 to 2024 she was at Queen Mary University of London, where she helped establish the Queen Mary Global Policy Institute. Previously, she directed the International Economics Research Department at Chatham House (The Royal Institute of International Affairs) in London. Sonja Gibbs is Managing Director and Head of Sustainable Finance and Global Policy Initiatives at the Institute of International Finance (IIF). She oversees the quarterly IIF GlobalDebt Monitor, which tracks debt-related vulnerabilities across mature and emerging economies, as well as the weekly IIF Insight on global financial markets. Her policy work includes engagement with the G20, the multilaterals and global regulators and standard setters. Sonja has spent over 20 years in banking and financial markets, most recently as Chief Equity Strategist at Nomura International in London, with earlier roles as a US economist and bank credit analyst in New York and Los Angeles. Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Students take on sovereign debt : cure or prevention?
2026/06/24
Sciences Po students Marius Guerin and Tom Krauthausen join Paola Subacchi to discuss what the G20 should prioritise as the United Kingdom prepares to take the chair in 2026. Drawing on their final projects for Paola’s course on managing sovereign debt, Marius and Tom bring fresh perspectives to the question of whether policymakers should focus on fixing debt crises once they erupt, or on preventing them before they begin. Hosts & Guests Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. Tom Krauthausen is a master's student at Sciences Po and the Stockholm School of Economics, specializing in International Economic Policy and Finance. His professional experience includes internships at the Boston Consulting Group and KfW Development Bank. Marius Guérin is a Sciences Po master's graduate, now working as a Junior Policy Analyst in the OECD's Development Co-operation Directorate. His previous experience includes internships in government and the private sector.Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Global debt in a higher debt world
2026/06/10
Global debt is entering a more expensive and uncertain phase. Drawing on the OECD Global Debt Report 2026, Paola Subacchi talks to Nicolas Pinaud about theoutlook for sovereign and corporate debt, rising refinancing risks, and the growing burden of debt-servicing costs.They discuss how higher interest rates, inflation, tighter monetary policy, and geopolitical tensions are reshaping debt markets, especially for low-incomecountries. The conversation also explores the legacy of quantitative easing, the changing investor base in corporate bond markets, shorter maturities, and the role of EU bonds in strengthening Europe’s capital markets.HostPaola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies.GuestNicolas Pinaud is Deputy-Director, OECD Directorate for Financial and Enterprise Affairs. He is an experienced Advisor with a demonstrated history of working on domestic, international and multilateral economic affairs for more than 15 years at government level and in an international organisation (the OECD).Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
The price of power: who pays for critical minerals?
2026/05/27
In this episode, Paola Subacchi is joined by Nicolas Niarchos to explore the growing global race for critical metals, especially those powering the batteries behind our digital and green transitions. They unpack the supply chains at the core of modern life and ask a tough question: are richer economies simply exporting pollution to poorer countries? Focusing on metal-rich nations, they examine how years of neglect, state fragility, and predatory lending have left these countries unable to turn resource wealth into sustainable development – and what it would take to change that. Hosts & Guests Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies.  Nicolas Niarchos is a journalist whose work focuses on energy, war, and migration. He is the editor and co-founder of Now Voyager, a new magazine of international affairs. He has been a contributing writer at the New Yorker since 2014, where he initially started as a fact-checker. His reporting has also appeared in the Nation, the New York Times, and the Guardian. He is the author of The Elements of Power: A Story of War, Technology, and the Dirtiest Supply Chain on Earth (Penguin Press). Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Digging out of debt: sovereign finance in commodity economies
2026/05/13
In this episode, Paola Subacchi sits down with Kamran Ahmad to unpack a persistent paradox: why countries rich in natural resources so often struggle to build lasting prosperity. The conversation dives into the complexities of financing commodity extraction, with a focus on how partnerships and project finance can unlock capital for large-scale initiatives – and ensure that resource wealth translates into sustainable economic development.Hosts & GuestsPaola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies.Kamran Ahmad is a partner in the Energy, Infrastructure and Project Finance Group in London.He has extensive experience acting for the full spectrum of market participants, including banks, multi-laterals, investors, sponsors and project companies, on greenfield and brownfield transactions covering a wide range of infrastructure sectors and financing techniques including bank debt, project bonds and multi-source financings. Kamran Ahmad also regularly advises on the development and financing of projects in the energy sector including conventional and renewable power, as well as, commodities based financings (including reserve based lending). Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Debt at the tipping point: warning signs and viable options
2026/04/22
In this episode of DebtTalks, Paola Subacchi and Martin Kessler explore what happens when a country begins to face mounting debt pressures. What are the early warning signs, and when does concern turn into crisis? The discussion also delves into the options available to heavily indebted countries – from restructuring to relief – and take a closer look at how the IMF’s Debt Sustainability Analysis shapes decisions along the way. Hosts & Guests   Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. Martin Kessler is the Executive Director of the Finance for Development Lab. Previously, he worked as an economist in the Development Cooperation Directorate of the OECD, focusing on trends of development finance for developing countries, and debt risks in particular. Prior to this, Martin worked at the World Bank on development dynamics in East Asia, and held research positions at the Brussels-based economic think-tank Bruegel and the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington DC.Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Mobilising capital for economic transformation in Latin America
2026/04/08
Episode 13 of DebtTalks dives into how Latin America can unlock domestic finance to power - funding major infrastructure while supporting SMEs - to the rise of innovative tools like green and thematic bonds in the Caribbean, the episode explores what’s working across a diverse region.With debt costs squeezing fiscal space, the conversation highlights the urgent need for cheaper financing. It also underscores the importance of stronger multilateral cooperation - moving beyond siloed approaches - to scale impact and drive sustainable development.Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. Sebastián Nieto-Parra is an Economist at the OECD Development Centre, where he works on the production of the annual report Latin American Economic Outlook. He also teaches economic policy of emerging markets at Sciences Po, Paris. His research interests include banking regulation, international finance and political economy in emerging countries. In particular, he has been researching the structure of the primary bond market. He has presented a number of his papers in various academia and policy-making oriented conferences. Before joining the OECD, Mr. Nieto-Parra was an Economist for Latin America at Santander Bank, Madrid. Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
From crisis bonds to long-term investment: financing Europe’s future
2026/03/25
As the European Union has emerged as a major bond issuer since the Covid-19 pandemic, this episode explores the fast-growing market for sovereign, sub-sovereign and supranational debt. Paola Subacchi and Lawrence Duquesne-Garner trace the EU’s journey as a bond issuer, revealing how crisis-driven financing is turning into a long-term investment strategy.   Hosts & Guests  Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. Lawrence Duquesne-Garner is a Managing Director within Crédit Agricole CIB's Sovereign, Supranational and Agency (SSA) debt capital markets team, which he joined in London in 2014. He is responsible for the public sector bond issuers in Germany, Switzerland, the Nordic region, as well as the European Commission (NextGenerationEU). Prior to joining Crédit Agricole in 2014, Lawrence held several front office positions within investment banks in Paris, Frankfurt and London. These included positions in public sector debt capital markets as well as Cross-Asset Solutions Sales and Export Finance negotiations. Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Retrenching aid in a volatile world
2026/03/11
As advanced economies cut international aid, Paola Subacchi and Clemence Landers assess the consequences for developing countries and the global economy. As funding declines, the risks multiply: an aid crisis can deepen debt distress, evolve into a broader development crisis, and ultimately trigger governance breakdowns. At stake is the very purpose of foreign assistance – preventing instability, economic collapse, and governance breakdown. Hosts & Guests Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies.Clemence Landers is vice president and senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development, as well as a trustee on the Center for Global Development Europe's board of trustees.  Prior to joining CGD, she worked at the US Treasury Department on US engagement with the multilateral development banks and as a desk economist covering several countries in the Middle East and North Africa region.Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Inside Africa’s debt toolkit
2026/02/25
In this episode Paola Subacchi and Barthélemy Faye explore the shifting landscape of finance for development in Africa. As countries expand their access to capital markets and diversify funding sources, new financial tools are reshaping how debt is managed. At the forefront are debt swaps, which replace expensive debt with cheaper, more flexible financing – creating fiscal space while supporting critical development priorities. Hosts & Guests Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. Barthélemy Faye is a Partner at Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP His practice focuses on corporate and financial matters and Africa-related transactions, including energy and natural resources projects, financings, acquisitions and JVs, private equity, and sovereign debt.Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Debt in a low-growth world
2026/02/11
This episode features Paola Subacchi in conversation with former EU Commissioner Paolo Gentiloni. They explore how ageing, climate pressures and, more recently, defence spending are driving public debt higher, while growth remains elusive and interest rates stay relatively high. The discussion revisits Europe’s response to the sovereign debt crisis and Covid, before turning to a largely overlooked challenge in developing countries – “defaulting on development.” Paolo Gentiloni is Co-Chair of the UN Group of Experts to promote policy solutions to resolve the debt crisis in developing countries. From 2019 to 2024, Mr Gentiloni was European Commissioner for Economy. He served as Prime Minister of Italy from 2016 to 2018 and Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation (2013-2014). Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies.Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Closing the financing gaps: innovative finance for developing countries
2026/01/28
Join Paola Subacchi and Guillaume Arditti for a lively and engaging conversation on financial constraints that developing countries face – and how innovative financial tools can help unlock the funding they need to drive development. Guillaume Arditti is a founding partner of Belvedere Advisory, a strategic and financial consulting firm dedicated to emerging markets. Since January 2024, he has also been an associate researcher at the Jacques Delors Institute, specializing in EU-Africa relations. He began his career at the Agence Française de Développement (AFD) in South Africa, before holding leadership roles at Natixis and BNP Paribas, where he focused on Natural Resources financing and strategy for Africa. He has also taught in the African Studies program at Sciences Po. Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. From 2019 to 2024 she was at Queen Mary University of London, where she helped establish the Queen Mary Global Policy Institute. Previously, she directed the International Economics Research Department at Chatham House (The Royal Institute of International Affairs) in London. Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
Advancing global financial reforms in a turbulent multilateral context
2026/01/14
Join Paola Subacchi and Piera Tortora for an in-depth discussion on how international policy cooperation can respond to pressing global challenges, including debt and climate. The episode also explores the Pact for Prosperity, People and the Planet – a global coalition established at the 2023 Summit for the New Global Financing Pact – and its potential to drive meaningful reforms of the international financial architecture.Piera Tortora serves as Head of the Secretariat of the Paris Pact for People and the Planet (4P), a global alliance of 68 countries advocating for international financial reform. A veteran of the OECD (2011–2024), she previously founded the Sustainable Ocean for All Initiative and led work on development finance and sustainable tourism. Earlier, she conducted economic analysis for the UN-FAO and the UN-ECE. She holds a PhD in Economics from the University of Rome “La Sapienza” and has taught at the Geneva Graduate Institute and Sant'Anna University of Pisa. Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies. From 2019 to 2024 she was at Queen Mary University of London, where she helped establish the Queen Mary Global Policy Institute. Previously, she directed the International Economics Research Department at Chatham House (The Royal Institute of International Affairs) in London.Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
What’s next for Ukraine ?
2025/12/10
In this episode DebtTalks departs from our usual long-view approach to engage directly with the latest headlines. Paola and Elina Ribakova explore the financial options available to Ukraine amid intense political uncertainty. Elina Ribakova is Non-resident Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and a Director of the International Affairs Program and Vice President for foreign policy at the Kyiv School of Economics. Paola Subacchi is Professor and Chair in Sovereign Debt and Finance at Sciences Po, and Professor of Political Economy of Europe at the University of Bologna. She is also a partner at Essential Economics, a London-based consultancy that advises governments, international organisations, and private companies.From 2019 to 2024 she was at Queen Mary University of London, where she helped establish the Queen Mary Global Policy Institute. Previously, she directed the International Economics Research Department at Chatham House (The Royal Institute of International Affairs) in London.Production Paola Subacchi Coordination Nathalie Corvée Musique Nils Bertinelli Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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