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In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Alex Schloe shares six of the biggest lessons he took away from the RAL Room's first Residential Assisted Living Virtual Summit. Featuring insights from lenders, licensing experts, experienced operators, and dementia-care educator Teepa Snow, Alex breaks down the practical ideas that can help you finance, license, operate, price, and grow a successful residential assisted living business. Here's what we cover: ✅ Why the money problem may be smaller than you think—and how SBA financing can change the path into RAL✅ What lenders look for when financing a startup or acquisition, including down payments, cash flow, and reserves✅ How asking the wrong licensing or zoning question can create expensive problems later✅ The importance of making sure your municipality, fire marshal, state licensing, and other requirements all align before moving forward✅ Angela Burrow's 10-day test for discovering how much of your business still depends on you✅ Why clear escalation procedures and thoughtful caregiver hiring can create stronger, more confident teams✅ How underpricing your services can directly impact staffing, care quality, and the resident experience✅ What occupancy trends and the senior housing supply gap mean for the future of residential assisted living✅ Teepa Snow's powerful lesson on dementia care, the three-second pause, and giving residents control over their environment✅ Why building the right systems and community around you can save years of costly trial and error👉 Whether you're just getting started in Residential Assisted Living, working toward your first acquisition, or already operating homes and looking to scale, this episode delivers practical lessons from some of the industry's leading experts. Pick one idea from this episode and put it into action this week. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Luis Chug, a quadruple board-certified physician specializing in pulmonary, critical care, and sleep medicine, takes a deep dive into sleep in the elderly and why it plays such an important role in senior health and quality of life. From insomnia and sleep apnea to restless leg syndrome, sleep hygiene, medications, and practical strategies for assisted living operators, this conversation is packed with valuable insights for anyone caring for older adults. Here's what we cover: ✅ Why quality sleep is important for memory, cognitive function, mood, immunity, and overall health✅ How sleep naturally changes as we age, including lighter sleep, more frequent awakenings, and earlier waking✅ Why excessive daytime sleepiness should not simply be dismissed as a normal part of aging✅ The connection between poor sleep, falls, cardiovascular health, diabetes, mood, and cognitive function✅ Common sleep challenges in seniors, including insomnia, sleep apnea, and restless leg syndrome✅ How medications, caffeine, electronics, lighting, and daytime naps can disrupt healthy sleep✅ Practical sleep hygiene strategies that assisted living operators can implement with residents✅ Why non-pharmacological approaches should be considered first when addressing insomnia✅ How sleep diaries, sleep studies, and newer technology can help identify sleep problems in assisted living residents✅ How operators can recognize potential sleep issues and work with physicians to properly evaluate their residents👉 Whether you're an assisted living owner, caregiver, healthcare professional, or simply looking to better understand sleep as we age, this episode offers practical strategies to help seniors sleep better, stay healthier, and enjoy a better quality of life. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this special 100th episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Alex Schloe takes a moment to celebrate an incredible milestone and, most importantly, say thank you. What started as an idea to create a different conversation around assisted living has grown into a thriving community of operators, entrepreneurs, caregivers, investors, and families committed to serving seniors with dignity and excellence.  Here's what we cover: ✅ The story behind the RAL Room podcast and how it all started✅ Reaching 100 episodes and building a community of 172 RAL Room members✅ The real-world impact members are already making through new homes and quality senior care✅ The RAL Room mission to empower 1,000 entrepreneurs to start or scale boutique assisted living homes✅ Highlights from RAL Room events in Houston and Dallas—and what's coming next✅ Lessons and conversations from 100 episodes covering systems, staffing, design, finance, operations, and more✅ How members are supporting each other through referrals, partnerships, investments, and shared experiences✅ Why community helps compress time, chaos, and risk when building an assisted living business✅ The guiding principle behind everything: the better you care for people, the better the business performs✅ What's ahead for the next 100 episodes, with deeper conversations, real stories, and more voices from the RAL Room community👉 Whether you've been listening since episode one or you're discovering the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast for the first time, this episode is a heartfelt thank-you to everyone who has been part of the journey. Here's to the next 100 episodes, continuing to build wealth, serve seniors, and design a life you love—together. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Alex Schloe takes a step away from the business and investment side of assisted living to talk about something that has resonated with millions of families: how to love and care for a parent living with dementia. After seeing millions of views on videos about dementia behaviors, communication, caregiving, and knowing when it's time to seek help, Alex shares the lessons families are asking for most—and the permission many caregivers need to hear. Here's what we cover: ✅ The early signs of dementia that families often dismiss as normal aging✅ Why behaviors like stubbornness, suspicion, repetition, and sundowning aren't simply character flaws✅ Five things to stop saying to someone with dementia—and what to say instead✅ Why arguing, correcting, or asking “Do you remember?” can make things harder✅ How to communicate in a way that reduces fear, confusion, and overwhelm✅ What Alex would never do if it were his own parent living with dementia✅ Why families should plan for care before a crisis happens—and the five questions to ask first✅ The emotional and financial cost of trying to carry dementia caregiving alone✅ Why choosing assisted living is not abandoning your parent—and how personalized residential care can provide another option✅ What millions of views and thousands of comments taught Alex about what families truly need: a plan and permission👉 Whether you're caring for a parent with dementia, preparing for what may come next, or trying to understand what your loved one is experiencing, this episode offers practical guidance, compassion, and reassurance. Most importantly, you'll hear a message every caregiver needs to remember: you are not crazy, you are not failing, and you do not have to carry this alone. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Alex Schloe and Charlie Cameron bring you another RAL Room Roundup, covering the latest developments, member wins, investment opportunities, and upcoming events across the Residential Assisted Living industry.  Here's what we cover: ✅ The upcoming Residential Assisted Living Virtual Summit and what attendees can expect✅ Why memory care demand is growing rapidly and what the latest Alzheimer's numbers mean for the industry✅ Senior housing occupancy reaching 90.1%, its highest level since 2007✅ Why institutional investors are increasingly targeting assisted living✅ How rising valuations and cap rate compression are creating new opportunities for RAL owners✅ The massive senior housing supply gap and why small residential homes can help fill the need✅ Recent RAL Room member wins, including new acquisitions, ground-up developments, remodels, and SBA-financed projects✅ A first-time investor's journey from getting started to closing a lease-to-operator deal in under a year✅ Updates on new RAL development and investment opportunities across the country✅ The importance of partnering with exceptional operators to create and increase value✅ Upcoming RAL Room events, including tours of operating homes in the Dallas-Fort Worth area👉 Whether you're just getting started in Residential Assisted Living or already operating homes, this roundup gives you a snapshot of where the industry is heading, where the opportunities are, and what RAL Room members are accomplishing right now. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Alex Schloe shares why Residential Assisted Living can be a powerful opportunity to build wealth while making a meaningful difference in the lives of seniors and their families. He breaks down the business model, different ways to get started, and how the right structure and community can help turn an idea into a successful RAL business.  Here's what we cover: ✅ Why Residential Assisted Living combines real estate, business, and purpose✅ How one well-run RAL home can potentially generate significant monthly cash flow✅ The growing demand and supply shortage in senior housing✅ The five proven paths to investing in Residential Assisted Living✅ How to get started without having a large amount of capital✅ Creative strategies including seller financing, private money, and partnerships✅ How to evaluate a property and avoid costly mistakes before making an offer✅ Why strong systems, exceptional care, and the right team are essential to success✅ How the right community and accountability can accelerate your journey👉 Whether you're looking to create financial freedom, build a purpose-driven business, or provide better care for seniors in your community, this episode offers a practical roadmap for turning Residential Assisted Living into a business—and a life—you can be proud of. THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTED LIVING SUMMIT The RAL Room is bringing together RAL operators and industry experts for a free, virtual, all-day event covering financing, licensing, operations, staffing, scaling, and more. September 19, 2026 | 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM Eastern Register here: https://summit.theralroom.com Learn more about CarePredict: https://www.carepredict.com/who-we-serve/residential-assisted-living-ral/ Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, we sit down with Mackey Hughes of Live Oak Bank to break down what it takes to successfully finance and close an SBA loan for a residential assisted living project. From underwriting and appraisals to construction budgets, equity requirements, and common closing roadblocks, Mackey shares practical insights to help aspiring and experienced RAL operators better understand the lending process. In this episode, you'll learn: What the SBA loan process looks like from application to closingCommon issues that can delay or derail a dealWhat to do if your appraisal comes in lower than expectedHow SBA 7(a) financing differs from other loan structuresWhat lenders look for in your business plan and financial projectionsHow to create more realistic construction and operating budgetsHow occupancy ramp-up is evaluated for new RAL projectsWhat investors and guarantors need to know before entering an SBA-financed dealHow much equity and cash lenders want to seeWhen to engage a lender during the RAL acquisition or development processOptions for fast-moving deals that need to close before SBA financing can be completedHow seller financing, outside investors, and phased development projects can affect your financing strategy👉 If you're planning to buy, build, or expand a residential assisted living home, this episode offers valuable insights into avoiding financing surprises and getting your deal across the finish line with confidence. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, we dive into the design and budgeting decisions that can make or break a residential assisted living project with Lisa Cini, an experienced senior living designer who has worked in residential assisted living for more than three decades. Lisa shares practical lessons on how to avoid expensive design mistakes, plan smarter from the beginning, and create spaces that are both beautiful and functional without unnecessarily breaking the budget. In this episode, you'll learn: Why proper budget planning needs to happen before major design decisions are madeHow misaligned plumbing and inefficient floor plans can drive up construction costsWhy standardizing bathrooms and using modular design elements can save thousandsHow to avoid overdesigning your RAL beyond what your market can supportWhy understanding your local market and pro forma should influence room layouts and unit typesThe hidden costs that can come with renovations, including roofs, sprinklers, structural issues, and demolitionWhat to look for when selecting commercial-grade furniture and FF&EWhy inexpensive residential furniture can become an expensive replacement problemHow room count and bed count can impact staffing costs and your overall numbersThe importance of accounting for technology, security, lighting, and other low-voltage systemsHow to balance cost-effective design with resident dignity, independence, and safetyWhere to spend more money for maximum impact—and where you can safely saveWhy a model room can be one of the best investments you make before completing the entire projectHow design choices can become part of your ongoing marketing and brandingLisa emphasizes that the goal isn't simply to spend less—it’s to spend intelligently. Some design elements can be standardized and simplified across an entire project, while others deserve investment because they directly affect resident experience, durability, or the property's ability to attract families. Whether you're renovating an existing property or planning a new RAL from the ground up, this episode offers valuable insight into making smarter decisions before costly mistakes become difficult—or impossible—to fix. Learn more about CarePredict: https://www.carepredict.com/who-we-serve/residential-assisted-living-ral/ Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Alex Schloe sits down with Peter Brissette, founder of Digital Marketing Dude, who has spent more than 20 years helping small businesses grow online and over 15 years working specifically with the assisted living industry.  Peter breaks down how residential assisted living operators can compete with larger communities and generate more qualified leads through better websites, Google reviews, local SEO, paid advertising, and emerging AI tools. In this episode, you'll learn:  Why your website is often the first impression families have of your community  The key elements every assisted living website should include  Why displaying pricing can help generate more qualified leads  How Google reviews can dramatically impact trust and referrals  Where operators should spend their marketing budget  How Google Ads can help capture families actively searching for care  How AI is changing search, SEO, and assisted living marketing  Why video and fresh website content are becoming increasingly important  The importance of making your marketing personal, authentic, and story-driven Peter also shares one of his biggest pieces of advice for operators: don't just market the business—share the story behind why you care about serving seniors.  A great episode for any assisted living owner looking to improve their online presence, generate higher-quality leads, and build trust with families before they ever pick up the phone. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Charlie Cameron sits down with Angela Burow, an experienced Residential Assisted Living operator and one of the RAL Room's leading operations coaches. Angela shares her journey from occupational therapist to assisted living owner and reveals the systems, leadership strategies, and operational processes that have helped her build a thriving, fully occupied home while preparing to expand into an 18-bed luxury memory care community. Here's what we cover: ✅ How Angela transitioned from healthcare into owning and operating Residential Assisted Living homes✅ The biggest mistakes she made when opening her first home—and what she'd do differently today✅ Why hiring the right administrator and caregivers is critical to long-term success✅ Building a strong team culture that delivers exceptional resident care✅ Marketing strategies and referral relationships that keep occupancy full✅ Operational systems, software, SOPs, and communication workflows that create consistency✅ Lessons from expanding into an 18-bed purpose-built memory care community✅ How Angela is helping RAL Room members succeed through operations training, templates, and coaching👉 Whether you're preparing to open your first Residential Assisted Living home or looking to improve your operations and scale your business, this episode is packed with practical advice from an operator who has successfully navigated the challenges and built systems that work. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Alex Schloe sits down with Nicole DeSantis, who transformed from a finance professional in New York City to the owner of her first Residential Assisted Living property—all in less than a year. 🏡 Nicole shares how she leveraged the lease-to-operator model to invest in an assisted living home in Oregon while continuing to work her full-time job in New York. She walks through the mindset, strategy, numbers, and lessons that helped her achieve her first deal and build a roadmap toward long-term financial freedom.  Here's what we cover:  ✅ Why the lease-to-operator model was the perfect fit while keeping a full-time career  ✅ How defining a clear investment "buy box" helped her find the right market  ✅ Why she chose Oregon over New York, New Jersey, and South Carolina  ✅ Finding the right operator and why they're the most important part of the business  ✅ Breaking down the numbers behind her first assisted living investment  ✅ Lessons learned from inspections, due diligence, and buying remotely  ✅ How the RAL Room community and networking helped make her first deal a reality 👉 Whether you're working a W-2 job, investing from out of state, or looking for a lower-risk way to enter Residential Assisted Living, Nicole's story proves that with the right strategy, community, and consistent action, your first deal may be closer than you think.  Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Charlie Cameron and Angela Brown are joined by Kimberly Rodriguez, founder of Action Over Words Group and former state inspector, to share an insider's guide to passing assisted living state inspections. 🏡 Drawing from years of experience inspecting communities across multiple states, Kimberly explains what inspectors are really looking for, common mistakes operators make, and practical strategies to help you stay compliant before inspection day arrives. Here's what we cover: ✅ How state inspection protocols work and where to find them ✅ What inspectors look for during tours, documentation reviews, and medication observations ✅ Common compliance mistakes that lead to citations—and how to avoid them ✅ Tips for preparing your staff with mock inspections and proper documentation ✅ What to do if you disagree with an inspector or receive an unfair citation ✅ Best practices to stay inspection-ready all year long 👉 Whether you're preparing for your initial license, annual survey, or complaint investigation, this episode is packed with practical advice to help you confidently navigate state inspections and protect your assisted living business. This episode is sponsored by CarePredict. Learn more about CarePredict: https://www.carepredict.com/who-we-serve/residential-assisted-living-ral/ Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Luke and Angela answer live questions from RAL Room members covering one of the biggest challenges in assisted living—operations and staffing. 🏡 From hiring caregivers and scheduling shifts to building systems that allow you to step away from the day-to-day, this Office Hours session is packed with practical advice from real-world operating experience. Here's what we cover: ✅ 8-hour vs. 12-hour caregiver shifts and staffing strategies ✅ Building an efficient team for growing assisted living homes ✅ New build vs. buying an existing assisted living facility ✅ Creating level-of-care assessments and pricing systems ✅ Managing family communication and resident satisfaction ✅ Choosing EMR/eMAR software and pharmacy integrations ✅ Building systems that let your business run without you 👉 Whether you're opening your first assisted living home or preparing to scale, this Q&A session offers actionable insights you can implement immediately. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this solo episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Dr. Alex Schloe shares the five biggest lessons he wishes he had known before investing in residential assisted living. After years of investing, partnering with operators, and learning through costly mistakes, Alex pulls back the curtain on what truly determines success in the RAL industry. 🏡 Whether you're just getting started or looking to scale, these practical insights can help you avoid expensive pitfalls and build a stronger assisted living business. Here's what we cover: ✅ Why residential assisted living is an operations business—not just a real estate investment ✅ How choosing the right operator can make or break your success ✅ Why market selection matters more than most investors realize ✅ The true cost of empty beds and how to build occupancy from day one ✅ Why learning from experienced operators can save you years of trial and error 👉 If you're considering your first assisted living investment or want to strengthen your current operation, this episode offers practical lessons that could save you time, money, and countless headaches. This episode is sponsored by CarePredict. Learn more about CarePredict: https://www.carepredict.com/who-we-serve/residential-assisted-living-ral/ Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs

In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Charlie Cameron sits down with Shane Pogue, founder of AEGIS RSI (Aegis Risk Solutions and Investigations), to discuss why due diligence is one of the most important—and often overlooked—aspects of raising capital and growing a successful assisted living business. 📊 Shane shares lessons from years of evaluating investment opportunities, working with founders, and helping investors make informed decisions before committing capital. Here's what we cover: ✅ Why due diligence is about more than just financials ✅ The importance of transparency when working with investors ✅ Common red flags operators and investors should watch for ✅ How to build trust through communication and accountability ✅ Practical insights for anyone raising capital or evaluating opportunities 👉 A must-listen for assisted living operators, investors, and entrepreneurs looking to build stronger businesses through transparency, trust, and informed decision-making. Join the RAL Room Assisted Living Mastermind Book a Free RAL Room Discovery Call With a Member Passively Invest in Assisted Living Get our Free 10-Step Guide to Buy Your First or Next RAL Join our Free Facebook Community Connect with Charlie Instagram Connect with Alex Instagram LinkedIn Book a Discovery Call with Legato Living: https://theralroom.com/legato/ Legato Living Webinar: https://link.theralroom.com/widget/form/MOHhovWX66z8RdMLiHFs