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Outlawed

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★★★★★
4.5
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195 reviews
This podcast has
43 episodes
Language
English
Explicit
No
Date created
2024/11/20
Latest episode
2026/10/08
Average duration
33 min.
Release period
13 days

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In the wild west of abortion bans and restrictions, patients, families, and their doctors are being treated like outlaws. OB-Gyns and abortion care providers Bev and Jonas embrace the American tradition of fighting injustice by sharing their direct line to what’s actually happening in our homes and medical offices.  Each episode’s powerful stories, experts, and resources help us grasp the aftermath of outlawing healthcare and how to talk about it with the people you know. Even with Uncle Bob. Especially with Uncle Bob. Brought to you by Dr. Beverly Gray, Dr. Jonas Swartz, and Jane Marie’s Little Everywhere.

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The Empress of Bright Ideas
2026/10/08
Despite what it feels like when social media serves up an expensive cure-all for an ever growing list of symptoms, menopause shouldn’t be a secret to be discovered while doomscrolling in bed. Omisade Burney-Scott, Founder of the Black Girls Guide to Surviving Menopause, uses the power of narrative to envision a world where people are never alone on their journey: where your doctor, your friends, your family, and community awareness all play an important role. Bev and Jonas’s conversation with Omisade confirms that she is the “Empress of Bright Ideas” the world needs right now.  We're a finalist for a Signal Award in the category of conversation starter! Vote for us here. Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] or call the Outlawed hotline at 919-442-8101 Learn more about the podcast here. For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our newsletter here.
Menopause goes to Washington
2026/10/01
Lawyer and author Jennifer Weiss-Wolf describes the experience of menopause as entering her “no f%#ks left to give era” and embracing the power many feel in this stage of life. As a public policy expert on reproductive health, she testified at the first congressional hearing dedicated to menopause in Washington, DC on September 16th. Bev and Jonas get the scoop on how she builds support for new legislation from woefully-misinformed congresspeople with patience and pragmatism. Her new book “When in Menopause: A User’s Manual and Citizen’s Guide” comes out on October 6th, and offers multiple paths to advocacy that match individual strengths.  We're a finalist for a Signal Award! Vote for us here. Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] or call out Outlawed hotline at 919-442-8101 Learn more about the podcast here. For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our newsletter here.
Abortion and the family doctor
2026/09/24
Reproductive health care touches multiple decades and events in a patient’s lifetime. So why not get care from a provider who was there when you got your first period, sprained your ankle in college sports, or was there when you gave birth? Bev and Jonas talk with the amazing Dr. Robin Wallace about providing abortions as a family physician and why more medical specialties should do the same. Based on years practicing in multiple states before and after Dobbs, she helps untangle the complex web of policies and paperwork that make it harder for medical professionals to offer abortion to patients already coming to them for other care. Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] or call out Outlawed hotline at 919-442-8101 Learn more about the podcast here. For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our newsletter here.
Nobody should have pain
2026/09/17
As Dr. Ghazaleh Moayedi declares, no one should have pain with IUD insertion. In this wild and wildly instructive episode, Bev and Jonas break down the actual steps of the infamously painful procedure and then dive into solutions with Dr. Moayedi, an OB-Gyn whose reputation as a provider of the “Best IUD insertion in Texas” leads to a mini gameshow challenge to rate pain relief options. This conversation is a huge win for anyone who has or wants an intrauterine device for control of their reproductive health, especially patients who have ever felt gaslit by providers about their lived experience. Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] or call out Outlawed hotline at 919-442-8101 Learn more about the podcast here: https://outlawedpodcast.com/outlawed/ For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our newsletter here.
More than just a pinch
2026/09/10
It’s no wonder that the podcast The Retrievals was launched by true crime favorites Serial Productions and the NYT. As host Susan Burton tells Bev and Jonas on Outlawed, the first season of the hit show underscored how women’s pain in IVF treatments intersected with a criminal investigation. The original perpetrator was stopped, but what was uncovered about how pain is perceived and treated or ignored affects every aspect of reproductive healthcare. In this two episode series on pain with IUD insertion, Bev and Jonas make full use of Susan Burton’s investigative journalist’s practiced lens to examine the complex dynamics between doctor and patient, pain and the perception of pain, and how doctors and patients can use language and take actions together for patient comfort.  Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] or call out Outlawed hotline at 919-442-8101 Learn more about the podcast here: https://outlawedpodcast.com/outlawed/ For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our newsletter here.
Outlawed Season 3 Trailer!
2026/08/27
Season 3 is coming your way with new episodes every week starting September 10th! We start the season talking about pain: interviewing Susan Burton (host and producer of The Retrievals) and Dr. Ghazeleh Moayedi, founder of Pegasus Health Justice center. Together we dive into the topic of pain and how we can better address it. We’ll have a series about the challenges of training Ob-Gyn’s in the wake of the Dobbs decision. We talk with trans rights super-hero - Chase Strangio of the ACLU- about the overlap between the attacks on trans health and abortion rights. And we’ll continue to interview folks telling us the stories and explaining the science of abortion bans in the US.
Feed drop: The fight for abortion training from Bodies
2026/08/06
Enjoy today's guest episode from Bodies, produced and hosted by Allison Behringer. The overturning of Roe v. Wade has severely restricted how doctors can access training in abortion care and it's already having a devastating ripple effect on patients seeking all kinds of reproductive care. Two medical residents in abortion-restricted states fight for training and for the future health of their patients. Plus, the centuries-long battle over who gets access to abortion training in the first place. Transcript at kcrw.com/bodies. Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] or call out Outlawed hotline at 919-442-8101 Learn more about the podcast here: https://outlawedpodcast.com/outlawed/ For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our substack newsletter outlawed.substack.com
Feed Drop - Pregnancy of unknown location with CREOGs over coffee
2026/07/25
While we're taking a break this summer we're excited to share some re-runs and episodes from other podcast friends. Today's episode takes a deep dive into the common 1st trimester clinical conundrum of pregnancy of unknown location. Listen along as Nick and Fei talk with Dr. Erin Cleary about pregnancy of unknown location and ectopic pregnancy. Have an IUD story you want to share for the podcast? Call 919-442-8101. Leave a voicemail with your story and we might share it on one of our Season 3 IUD episodes. (The voicemail will cut you off at 3 min, just FYI. Feel free to leave a second message.) Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] Learn more about the podcast here: https://outlawedpodcast.com/outlawed/ For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our substack newsletter outlawed.substack.com
Everything's bigger in Texas, even abortion bans (re-run from Season 1)
2026/07/09
The stories out of Texas are numerous and heartbreaking. In our third episode of Outlawed, we’ll meet two people from Texas. One is a high-risk OB-gyn physician who cares for some of the sickest patients and pregnancies. She talks about the impact of the Texas abortion ban (SB8) and Dobbs on the healthcare she can provide people and explains why these laws lead to substandard care. The second person we will meet is Lisa, a patient who had to flee Texas after receiving a devastating diagnosis during her routine second trimester ultrasound. Have an IUD story you want to share for the podcast? Call 919-442-8101. Leave a voicemail with your story and we might share it on one of our Season 3 IUD episodes. (The voicemail will cut you off at 3 min, just FYI. Feel free to leave a second message.) Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our substack newsletter outlawed.substack.com Learn more about the podcast here: https://outlawedpodcast.com/outlawed/
4 years later: Why learn about abortion? (re-run from season 1)
2026/06/24
As we reflect on the 4 year anniversary of the Dobbs decision, we wanted to go back and share our very first episode of the podcast from Fall of 2024.  We introduce you to our hosts, Dr. Beverly Gray and Dr. Jonas Swartz, along with a woman named Sally, a nurse who answers the phone at an abortion clinic and is the first point of contact for those seeking care in North Carolina. Whether you’ve broached a topic like abortion with Uncle Bob or are about to, we want to hear from you! Call our new hotline: 919-442-8101.  That’s 919-442-8101. Power on! (The voicemail will cut you off at 3 min, just FYI. Feel free to leave a second message.) Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our substack newsletter here.
Conversation Mode: Power On!
2026/06/11
Summer’s here and it’s time for Outlawed’s season 2 finale! Bev and Jonas reflect on the podcast’s original goals of making it easier to have those tough conversations about abortion, and highlight some of the best advice from show guests so far to spark your confidence at poolside gatherings and backyard barbecues. Plus, hear what we have in store for the September launch of season 3.  Whether you’ve broached a topic like abortion with Uncle Bob or are about to, we want to hear from you! Call our new hotline: 919-442-8101.  That’s 919-442-8101. Power on! (The voicemail will cut you off at 3 min, just FYI. Feel free to leave a second message.) Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our substack newsletter here.
Is adoption an alternative to abortion?
2026/05/28
Many people we know and love are adopted or have adopted, but where adoption fits into a reproductive justice framework is nuanced and complex. Dr. Gretchen Sisson, a researcher at Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health (ANSIRH) at UCSF, has been studying adoption systems and interviewing birth mothers for over a decade. In this moving conversation she dispels myths about abortion, adoption, and the choice to parent, and advocates for an eyes-wide-open approach to positive change.  Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/ Sign up for our substack newsletter here.
League of Mifepristone Defenders
2026/05/08
Last week's rollercoaster of legal rulings and misinformation about mifepristone is enough to cause whiplash. Even Bev and Jonas are confused! So these two justice-seeking OB-Gyns activated the bat signal for all defenders of abortion pill access, and got three reproductive health superheroes into the studio, stat. Legal professor David Cohen, public health specialist Dr. Ushma Upahdyay, and abortion provider Dr. Robin Wallace break down the Louisiana case, bust mife myths, and share what’s next no matter what happens at the Supreme Court on Monday May 11th. Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.  Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/
Beyond Limits with Dr. Shelley Sella
2026/04/23
It was nearly 17 years ago that Dr. George Tiller was assassinated in his church for providing abortion care. In this episode, Bev and Jonas speak with retired OB-Gyn Dr. Shelley Sella, who was trained by Dr. Tiller, and calls him “a midwife at heart.”  She became one of the first women to openly provide third-trimester abortion care in the United States, and advocates for a midwifery model of care that centers the patient and prioritizes observation and patience. Her book, Beyond Limits: Stories of Third-Trimester Abortion Care (Beacon Press) is a testament to the critical importance of abortion without restrictions, and comes out in paperback on May 26th. Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.   Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/
Under the Gynfluence With Dr. Fran
2026/04/09
Wandering wombs? Terrifying tampons? After-birth abortions? Science keeps advancing, but peddlers of misinformation persist. In this episode, fact-wielding OB-Gyns Bev and Jonas become a myth-busting trio with the addition of OB-Gyn Dr. Fran, who went viral fighting shady claims with clarity and humor in the arenas of TikTok and Instagram. With tips on how to distinguish legitimate accounts, when to engage, and what works best in a medium too short for nuance, you might just be inspired to become a trusted source of facts about reproductive health in your own online communities.  Find Dr. Fran on social media @PagingDrFran Want a cool contraception sweater? https://pagingdrfran-shop.fourthwall.com/ Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Go here:   https://www.gifts.duke.edu/dukehealth?designation=391001053 Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: [email protected] For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/

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4.5 out of 5
195 reviews
★★★★★
CGRaleigh 2025/10/29
Informative and heart breaking
I’m so thankful I found this podcast. It demonstrates the importance and impact of autonomy - the choices you have (or don’t) and the long term effec...
★★★★★
Elle_phant 2025/10/22
Outlawed, but not forgotten
Everyone should know the details about abortion that this podcast unfolds.
★★★★★
DMTNYC 2025/10/15
Well done
The episode with Dr. Caitlin Myers was shock full of information. I’ve listened to three episodes and I’m appreciating this immensely.
★☆☆☆☆
kmart354 2025/07/07
A Miscarriage is not an Abortion
It is insensitive to use the words “missed abortion” to talk about miscarriages. I know this is what they’re medically coded as but this is triggering...
★★★★★
ofc, a social worker 2025/03/03
Wonderful, a MUST listen for all!
I have recommended this podcast to anyone and everyone! Not only are the episode topics important, the language and discussion is accessible and provi...
★★★★★
jkga2 2025/02/15
Highly recommend
Really informative, sensitive treatment of a challenging topic. Very likeable co-hosts and some truly inspirational guests.
★★★★★
ekitchen23 2025/02/06
A must listen!
Incredibly moving and informative!
★★★★★
a lil lost lol 2025/01/29
Amazing. Keep going!!!
This is an incredibly educational and important podcast especially in our current political climate. I am and always have been pro-choice, yet I never...
★★★★★
Center Kindness & Compassion 2025/01/29
Gratitude
Thank you so much for all of the amazing work you all do, first of all, and for sharing your stories in a thoughtful, genuine manner that shows so muc...
★★★★★
Ssam C. 2025/01/15
Beautiful
This was wonderful. Enormous thank you to all of the providers interviewed for this series ♥️
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