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The #1 Podcast for all things copywriting, digital marketing and building a 100% freedom-focused business. Since 2019, I've been helping regular folks become "coffee shop copywriters" where they earn up to £350+ per hour, secure equity deals AND get to work when they want, where they want, and for who they want. We don't do sleaze, cheese, or hyped-up claims. You'll get a warts n' all look at the life of a coffee shop copywriter as you come along on your journey building a one-person laptop business, speaking to cool people, and trying to strike the balance between passion and profits.
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EP 38 - Stop Chasing Likes. Start Making Offers (How Real Businesses Grow) With Paul Mort
2026/01/16
The Cost of Entry to Winning (Most People Won’t Pay It) with Paul Mort
Most people don’t lack strategy.
They lack courage.
In this episode, I sit down with Paul Moore — 2× UK Master Coach of the Year, bestselling author, and serial business builder — for a raw conversation about the actual price of success.
Not the Instagram price.
Not the “post more content” price.
The real one.
Rejection.
Discomfort.
Doing things that don’t feel good… until they work.
This episode will either sharpen you up — or expose where you’ve been hiding.
What We Get Into:
* Why most people want Champions League results with Sunday league effort
* The uncomfortable truth about “working smarter, not harder”
* Why content and likes are often just dopamine substitutes
* The real reason people avoid DMs, emails, and making offers
* Why rejection isn’t a bug — it’s the entry fee
* How fear of unsubscribes quietly caps most businesses
* Why being organised beats being “busy”
* The hidden cost of staying liked, agreeable, and invisible
* Why winners stop measuring applause and start measuring outcomes
Key Ideas Worth Sitting With:
* Posting isn’t selling. Conversations are.
* If you can’t handle “no,” you can’t handle growth.
* Rejection is not feedback — it’s filtering.
* Likes feel good. Leads pay bills.
* Most people aren’t doing “everything.” They’re doing the minimum and calling it effort.
* Discomfort doesn’t mean you’re wrong. It usually means you’re early.
Quotes You’ll Remember:
“That’s not everything. That’s the bare minimum.”
“Rejection is the cost of entry to winning.”
“If you’re scared of unsubscribes, you’re scared of growth.”
“You don’t get Champions League results with Sunday league effort.”
“If you won’t pay the price, you don’t get in the theme park.”
Who This Episode Is For:
* Business owners stuck “doing all the right things” with no traction
Creators chasing engagement instead of outcomes
Anyone avoiding sales because it feels uncomfortable
People who say they want more — but won’t face rejection to get it
Guest:
Paul Mort
📍 Instagram: @paulmortofficial
📘 Book: Upgrade (Paperback release — January 2026)
If this episode hit a nerve, good.
That’s usually where growth starts.
Subscribe to Freedom Kickstarter for conversations about business, performance, and building something real — without the b******t.
EP 37 - So What Actually IS Copywriting?
2025/11/07
What is copywriting.. really?
In this solo episode, Mike breaks down what copywriting actually means, what makes great copy tick, and why the best copywriters in the world aren’t just writers… they’re psychologists, marketers, and storytellers.
You’ll learn the real skills behind persuasive writing, how to start building your own portfolio, and what separates high-earning copywriters from those who never get off the ground.
If you’ve ever wondered how words can make people click “buy now,” this episode is your crash course in understanding the art and business of copywriting.
What You’ll Learn:
* The simple definition of copywriting (and why most people overcomplicate it)
* How persuasion and psychology drive every great piece of copy
* The two main types of copywriting, and which one pays more
* Why clarity always beats cleverness
* The single most important skill every copywriter must master
* How top copywriters research their audience and uncover real pain points
* The power of structure and why frameworks like AIDA still work
5 practical techniques that instantly level up your writing:
Focus on benefits, not featuresUse simple languageAdd authentic social proofTackle objections directlyBe specific with proof and numbers
The 3 paths (and how to pick the right one) to start your career:
AgencyIn-house, Freelance
Key Takeaways:
* Copywriting isn’t about fancy words, it’s about human behaviour.
* The best copywriters are obsessed with research, not writing.
* Good copy connects, clarifies, and compels action.
* You don’t need a degree or experience, you need curiosity and consistency.
* The fastest way to learn copywriting? Write every day.
Resources & Links:
👉 Watch the free ABP Masterclass: https://www.thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-masterclass
👉 Join the ABP Waitlist: https://www.thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-waitlist
EP 36 - The Email Formula That Turns New Subscribers Into Buyers in 30 Days
2025/10/31
If you think email marketing is outdated, think again.
In this episode, Mike sits down with Kennedy, co-founder of Email Marketing Heroes, a former comedy mind-reader who’s helped thousands of coaches, course creators, and business owners turn brand-new subscribers into loyal customers within 30 days.
They dig into the psychology that makes people open, click, and buy, plus the simple campaign structures that make email your highest-ROI channel (without feeling spammy or salesy).
Whether you’ve got 100 subscribers or 100,000, this episode will help you write emails that connect, convert, and keep people coming back for more.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
* The Terrible Friend Campaign: how to re-engage a cold list the right way
* The BED Formula (Beliefs, Evidence, Desire) that makes every offer easier to sell
* How to write emails that build trust before you pitch
* Why copying other people’s emails is the fastest way to fail
* The truth about market research (and what most copywriters miss)
* How to discover “hidden copy” directly from your customers’ words
* Using AI as a research and automation tool, not a replacement for creativity
* How to turn aspirational offers into urgent, irresistible ones
* The emotional triggers behind every sale, from certainty to shame
Key Takeaways:
* Email isn’t dead, bad email is.
* Build belief, show evidence, create desire - in that order.
* Consistency beats complexity. Show up, add value, and reintroduce yourself when needed.
* Every email should focus on one point, one emotion, and one clear action.
* The best copy isn’t written. It’s discovered through your audience.
Resources & Mentions:
Free Training: emailmarketingheroes.com/coffee
— Kennedy’s full course on converting new subscribers into buyers
Email Marketing Heroes Podcast: emailmarketingheroes.com
Follow Kennedy: https://www.instagram.com/emailmarketingheroes/
🎧 Enjoyed this episode?
Share it with a fellow copywriter or business owner who needs to hear this.
* Watch the free ABP Masterclass: thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-masterclass
* Join the ABP Waitlist: thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-waitlist
EP 35 - AI Won’t Replace You, The Person Using It Will (with Mr. AI)
2025/10/24
Everywhere you look, people are asking the same question:
Is AI about to kill copywriting and marketing as we know it?
In this episode, Mike sits down with Jamie Woods, founder of Black Swan Influence and better known as Mr. AI, to unpack what’s really happening at the crossroads of human creativity and machine intelligence.
From how businesses are quietly replacing 300-person teams with automated systems, to why the best copywriters are using AI to enhance rather than replace their craft, this conversation is a reality check for anyone building a business in 2025 and beyond.
What You’ll Learn
* The real opportunities (and threats) AI brings to marketers and copywriters
* How companies are already using AI to recover lost revenue and close unconverted leads
* Why “prompting” is the new copy skill and how to do it properly
* How to use AI for research, market analysis, and idea generation without losing your voice
* The difference between using AI to think vs to produce, and why most people get it wrong
* The danger of letting AI make you lazy, and how to keep your creative edge
* How authenticity, imperfection, and human quirks are becoming premium assets
* Jamie’s wild early-stage story from tax debt to building an AI system that clients now pay him royalties for
Key Takeaways:
* AI won’t replace great copywriters, but it will expose lazy ones.
* Use AI to enhance your ideas, not to think for you.
* Your quirks, tone, and imperfections are part of your credibility.
* The real winners will be those who stack skills, creativity, strategy, and technology.
* Be of value first; tools only multiply what’s already there.
Resources & Links
Watch the free ABP Masterclass: https://www.thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-masterclass
Join the ABP Waitlist: https://www.thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-waitlist
Connect with Jamie Woods: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiekwoods
EP 34 - Proven Ways to Sign Your First Copywriting Client
2025/10/17
You’ve read the books, watched the YouTube videos, and maybe even taken a few courses, but that one question still nags you: how do you actually get your first client?
In this solo episode, Mike breaks down four proven, battle-tested ways to land your first paying copywriting gig, the same methods that have helped generate over $200M in client revenue and launch the careers of 600+ new copywriters.
From personalised cold outreach to crafting a value-driven portfolio, joining agencies, and building your personal brand, this episode gives you a realistic, actionable roadmap to go from “no clients” to “in demand.”
What You’ll Learn:* Why most “guru” tactics about getting clients fall flat* The right way to do cold outreach (and stand out in crowded inboxes)* How to create a prospecting portfolio that gets noticed even with no clients yet* When working for free actually makes sense (and how to make it work for you)* The hidden advantages of starting in an agency environment* Why building a personal brand works long-term but not overnight* The mindset shifts that help you secure your first client and turn it into many more
Key Takeaways:* Don’t chase hacks, build trust one meaningful interaction at a time.* Ten thoughtful outreaches beat a thousand mass emails.* Your first client isn’t about money, it’s about momentum and proof.* Over-deliver early, it’s your best marketing strategy.
Resources & LinksWatch the free ABP Masterclass: [https://www.thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-masterclass]Join the ABP Waitlist: [https://www.thefreedomkickstarter.com/abp-waitlist]
EP 33 - 9 Books You Must Read If You Want to Make Money From Writing
2025/10/10
Every copywriter has heard the same question: “What’s the best book to learn copywriting?”In this episode, we dive into nine essential books every copywriter should read, from timeless classics like Breakthrough Advertising to modern mindset shifters like Alchemy and Key Person of Influence.But the real gem of this conversation?The controversial advice at the end: why the best way to become a great copywriter might just be to stop reading and start writing.Books Mentioned1. The 4-Hour Workweek — Tim Ferriss2. The Advertising Solution — Brian Kurtz & Craig Simpson3. Purple Cow — Seth Godin4. Alchemy — Rory Sutherland5. Key Person of Influence — Daniel Priestley6. The Ultimate Sales Letter — Dan Kennedy
Key Takeaways Principles don’t age. Copywriting trends change, but human behaviour doesn’t.
Being “safe” kills creativity. Stand out like a Purple Cow.
Learn to think, not just to write. Behavioural insights > formulaic hacks.
Position yourself as a key person of influence. Niching down multiplies opportunity.
Stop reading so much — start writing. Mastery comes from doing, not just studying.The Controversial Truth “If you want to get great at copy, stop reading and start writing.”Books can inspire, but writing every day builds intuition, persuasion, and rhythm.
Analyse ads. Deconstruct headlines. Rewrite winning emails.That’s how real copywriters get good.Connect & Continue* 💬 Which copywriting book changed your career? Drop it in the comments.* 🔔 Subscribe for more grounded conversations about writing, marketing, and business growth.
EP 32 - The World's Most Effective Email Welcome Sequence
2025/10/03
Most email welcome sequences are terrible.
Too pushy. Too desperate. Too full of “hacks” that make your audience run for the unsubscribe button.
This episode shows you how to flip the script — and build a welcome sequence that actually builds trust, starts relationships the right way, and sells (without feeling gross).
If you want to stop chasing quick wins and instead build a business full of customers who want to buy from you again and again… this one’s for you.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
Why 99% of welcome sequences fail (and what to do differently)
The one thing your first email MUST do before anything else
How to use “value-first” positioning to create trust that compounds
Why selling in email #1 is a trap (and what to send instead)
A sneaky trick to get people replying — and why that trains inboxes to treat you like a friend, not spam
A simple 3-email framework that balances story, proof, and offers
Episode Breakdown
– Why most welcome sequences suck
– What a welcome sequence actually is
– Delivering the thing they signed up for (seriously, don’t skip this)
– Value-first vs. freebie seekers (the truth)
– Why you should not sell in email one
– The inbox trick that gets you into “Primary” instead of spam
– A 3-email structure you can steal today
Links & Resources
Follow along on YouTube for more breakdowns like this → [Subscribe here]
Got feedback or want to share your take? Drop a comment below — I’d love to hear it.
If you’re ready to stop pushing discount codes and start building an email list full of lifelong fans, hit play and let’s go.
EP 31 - This Email Strategy Made Over Half a Million, 100% Organically
2025/08/22
In 2019, I launched the Freedom Kickstarter, a copywriting course that went on to make over £700,000 in
sales. More than half a million of that came organically, no fancy funnels, no tech wizardry, and no hypey marketing tactics that make you feel like you need a shower afterwards.
In this episode, I break down exactly how I did it step-by-step and how you can replicate the structure, whether you’re selling a course, service, or even physical products.
You’ll discover:
* The Offer Hook That Stood Out – Why “earn £350/hour” beat generic “learn copywriting” promises.
* The Unique Mechanism – How identifying 5 core pillars made the course different (without making anything up).
* 18 Months of Reciprocity – The value of emailing without selling… and why it made launch day a no-brainer for buyers.
* Building in Public – How showing behind-the-scenes stoked demand before the cart even opened.
* The Secondary Benefit Principle – Why adding a second aligned benefit can be the real sales driver.
* Risk Removal Done Right – The double guarantee that made saying “yes” feel safe.
* Post-Launch Momentum – Using student results to create FOMO for the next enrolment.
* Price Increases With Integrity – How structured launch phases encouraged early action (and built trust).
This isn’t theory, it’s the exact blueprint that turned a tiny 1,400-person email list into a multi–six-figure business.
If you want to see the actual emails that sold the course, stick around until the end, I’ll tell you how to get them.
EP 30 - How to Go from 0 to 100k as a copywriter
2025/08/15
Is it still possible to hit 6-figures as a copywriter in 2025?Short answer: yes but the game has changed.In this solo episode, I break down the real roadmap my most successful students are using to build profitable copywriting businesses from scratch (many hitting £10K–£20K/month without spending their lives in the DMs or ghostwriting tweet threads).You’ll get the 7 exact steps that consistently produce high-income earners, even if you’re just starting out.Forget the recycled advice. This is about what is actually working now.Whether you're stuck under 3K/month or want to scale more sustainably, this episode is your blueprint.In This Episode, I talk about:Why generalist copywriters stay broke, and what to do insteadHow to actually study great copy (hint: it's more than saving swipe files)The surprising power of genuine relationships over cold pitchingHow to use AI to 10x your outreach without losing the human touchWhy consistent follow-up is your secret weaponHow to lead with value, not desperationThe simple pricing psychology that increased my average project fees overnightThis isn’t overnight success stuff.The highest-paid writers I mentor/coach have one thing in common: they play the long game with discipline and intention.If you're serious about building a six-figure writing business, one that gives you more freedom and better clients this episode maps it out step by step.
EP 29 - You Have Questions
2025/08/08
In this special episode, I answer questions submitted via Instagram, covering everything from the mindset and values behind successful business relationships to starting over with zero audience, leveraging AI in copy, and the controversial line between values and politics in business. This is an honest, strategic, no-hype session loaded with insights for freelancers, copywriters, and business owners alike.If you’ve ever wondered what tools, traits, or tactics actually matter in building a long-term business, this one’s for you.Some of What I talk about in This Episode:01: Traits That Earn (and Lose) Respect in Business→ Why doing what you say matters more than hype→ The quiet power of punctuality and consistency→ Why trend-chasing and flakiness kill credibility02: Starting from Zero: No List, No Network—Now What?→ The simple mindset shift to rebuild from scratch→ Real-world strategies to find and help people without expectation→ The underestimated value of networking and no-risk offers03: Starting a Business in a New Industry→ Why ultra-endurance could be a goldmine→ The hidden value in “boring” service businesses→ How to spot untapped potential in legacy sectors04: Do You *Need* Social Media to Be a Copywriter?→ Short answer: No.→ Long answer: Depends on your business model→ When it’s a liability vs. when it’s a leverage point05: Best AI Editing Tools (And Why It Doesn’t Really Matter)→ The surprising truth about tool choice→ What matters more than the tool you use06: How Good is AI for Copywriting?→ The benefits: research, editing, ideation→ The risks: sounding “right” but failing to connect→ Why AI won’t make up for lack of skill or emotional nuance07: Talking Politics, Values & Clients→ When sharing your views builds stronger client rapport→ Why values ≠ party politics→ The types of clients you *want* your opinions to repelNotable Quotes:> “Consistency is a massive thing. If someone’s just chasing trends, I find that a red flag.”> “I’d find people I could help and do it with no expectation—because business is about people.”> “Social media is a long game. If you need clients now, outreach beats Instagram every time.”> “AI is good. But until you’ve honed your craft, you won’t know if it’s *good enough*.”> “If someone gets overly emotional about your opinion, they’re probably not your client.”Final Takeaway:You don’t need perfect tools or 10K followers to build a durable business. Show up. Do what you say. Know your values. And don’t be afraid to polarise when it comes to what matters.
EP 28 - London Marathon Legend Exposes Exactly What's Wrong With 'Inclusive' Running Culture
2025/07/18
In this deeply inspiring episode, Mike sits down with Phil Robertson, the creator of the Flawed Hero Marathon, a midnight running event that blends radical inclusivity, human resilience, and raw community power.
What started with a cardboard cutout of Phil’s late father and a Facebook post has evolved into one of the most meaningful and emotional endurance events on the UK calendar.
From battling the ego-fueled world of mainstream marathons to supporting runners with cerebral palsy, multiple sclerosis, stage 4 cancer, and even a Morrison’s mobility scooter, Phil shares what it really means to show up, both for yourself and for others.
If you've ever questioned what you're capable of, this episode is your reminder: you're more than you think.
What We Discussed:
* Why Flawed Hero is more than a marathon, it’s a movement
* The real purpose behind charity running events (hint: it’s not the medal)
* How to challenge your self-imposed limits through community and story
* Why “running time” is often the least important metric
* The surprising mental health power of midnight marathons and micro-communities
* What “post-marathon blues” really feel like, and how to beat them
* How biohacking, breathwork, and barefoot grounding fit into the Flawed Hero mindset
* Why every runner needs to find their “fellow weirdos”
Memorable Quotes
“We’re not perfect, but we’re not broken either. We’re flawed heroes.”
“The marathon isn’t about speed. It’s about belief, resilience, and community.”
“Running is the therapy. The real marathon starts at mile 20 of your life.”
“Some people run sub-3 hours. Others push a mobility scooter through the night. *Both* are heroes.”
“Fundraising isn’t about perfection. It’s about showing your pain, your joy, your reason.”
Tools, Books & Mentions
* Book Recommendation: Key Person of Influence by Daniel Priestley
Final Five (Rapid Fire Round)
* Go-to coffee order? Flat White
* One platform you’d delete? Instagram – “Let’s just drop the gram.”
* Dinner party guests? His late parents and comedian Michael McIntyre
* Advice to get where he is? “Be resilient. Be persistent. Find your fellow weirdos.”
* Top book pick? Key Person of Influence more relevant now than ever
If You Liked This Episode…
👉 Like, share, and subscribe.
👉 Tag a friend who needs this reminder: they are more capable than they think.
👉 Want to run a midnight marathon with 100 legends in 2026? Follow [@flawedheromovement](https://www.instagram.com/flawedheromovement) for updates.
EP 27 - Why This Top Trainer Says Business Mentors Are DESTROYING Online Coaches With Jewade Graham
2025/07/11
In this candid and no-holds-barred episode, we sit down with Jewade Graham, an online transformation coach who’s on a mission to fix the fitness industry from the inside out.
Joé works exclusively with personal trainers, helping them get in the best shape of their life and build the systems to deliver real results for their clients not just followers.
Together, we dive deep into why the online fitness world is broken, how social media has warped what it means to be a “coach,” and the truth about business mentorships that prey on insecurity and inexperience.
Whether you're a personal trainer, coach, or just someone navigating this noisy online space, this episode will challenge your assumptions, call out the fluff, and show you what real growth looks like in business and in life.
What we Discuss:
Why many “online coaches” are really just marketers with no client results
The real reason PTs need coaches themselves, even if they already “know the info”
Why mentorship without experience is dangerous for both coach and client
The damaging loop of dopamine hits from likes, follows, and aesthetics
How Jewade uses personal transformation as a tool to help coaches build a business
The difference between short-term vanity and long-term credibility
Why most fitness business mentors should be on a one-way flight to Dubai
How AI will expose underperforming coaches, and why that's a good thing
🗣 Memorable Quotes
> “If you’re not delivering a result, you’re not a coach – you’re a marketer.”
> “AI won’t replace the human connection. But it will flush out the ones who were never coaching to begin with.”
> “Most people don’t need more knowledge. They need systems, structure, and support.”
> “A textbook doesn’t prepare you for real-life clients. People do.”
> “You’re not lazy. You’re just trying to fight ingrained habits with zero tools.”
Tools, Books & Mentions
* Book Recommendation: Unreasonable Hospitality – an unexpected gem on the power of service
* Instagram
Final Five
* Go-to coffee order? Mocha (even when dieting, just swap for sweeteners)
* Social media platform you’d delete? TikTok
* Dinner guests (alive or dead)? Mike Tyson, a gorilla (yes, really), and Messi
* Most powerful business lesson? Invest early. Invest often. Don’t rush.
* One word that defines his coaching? Relatability
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EP 26 - Fitness, Fatherhood & Fighting Mental Health Battles: An Honest Conversation
2025/07/04
In this raw, honest, and deeply reflective episode of the Freedom Kickstarter podcast, I sit down with long-time online coach Jonathan Hamilton Potter founder of Reinvent Dadbod for a conversation that’s about so much more than business.
Jonathan opens up about the real behind-the-scenes of running a coaching brand, including the mental health
battles no one sees, the crash-and-burn of a failed business partnership, and what it’s really like to run a business while managing ADHD and depression.
Expect stories that punch, practical insight, and perspective-shifting moments all from a man who’s spent nearly
two decades in the trenches of coaching and content creation.
Whether you’re a coach, creator, or just someone trying to figure out how to stay consistent through the chaos, this episode is for you.
What We Discussed:
How Jonathan went from near rock bottom to building Reinvent Dadbod
Why “just doing the thing” might be the most powerful antidote to depression and procrastination
The real cost of a bad business partnership (and what to do if you’re in one)
How to operate a business when mental health isn’t on your side
What ADHD really looks like behind the scenes (not just TikTok stereotypes)
The truth about motivation, self-worth, and getting stuff done when you feel like sh\*t
Why transparency beats perfection in online coaching
The power of doing less but better when you're overwhelmed
Jonathan on Mental Health & Business:
“When you do what you’re putting off, the fog lifts. That’s always been the quickest way out of it for me.”
“I don’t want to build a business that relies on me being perfect — because I’m not. And I won’t pretend to be.”
About Jonathan:
Jonathan Hamilton Potter is an online coach and founder of Reinvent Dadbod, a fitness coaching program specifically designed for dads who want to reclaim their energy, health, and identity. With over 17 years of experience in the fitness industry — and hard-earned wisdom from the battles of self-employment, parenthood, and personal setbacks — Jonathan is known for his no-fluff, deeply human approach to coaching.
Find Jonathan online:
Instagram: [@reinventdadbod](https://www.instagram.com/reinventdadbod)
Website: [reinventdadbod.co.uk](https://www.reinventdadbod.co.uk/home)
Final Five:
1. Book recommendation:
The Millionaire Fastlane* by MJ DeMarco — “Ignore the name. It’s not a get-rich book. It’s about what it really takes to build something that lasts.”
2. Coffee order:
Skinny flat white — or a cortado when he’s feeling fancy.
3. Social media platform to delete:
Facebook — “No one sees anything anymore. It’s basically useless.”
4. Dinner party guests:
* Mike Tyson
* Gordon Ramsay
* Marlon Brando
5. One piece of advice for others:
“Just do the thing. You won’t learn what works until you do something — even if it fails.”
If you’re building a business while battling your own mind, this episode is a reminder you’re not alone — and there’s always a way forward.
EP 25 - Sales Expert Exposes What NOBODY Tells You About High-Ticket Closing
2025/06/27
In this candid, no-BS episode of the Freedom Kickstarter podcast, I sit down with Stu McKenzie, a high-ticket
sales veteran and sales team builder for an unfiltered conversation about what it really takes to sell premium offers, scale your income through sales calls, and avoid the common traps most coaches fall into.
Stu unpacks the difference between objection handling and objection awareness, and why rapport isn't about talking football or the weather, and how to build a sales process that converts without relying on gimmicks or fake scripts.
This one’s a deep dive covering everything from beginner closers to elite-level persuasion tactics, frameworks vs scripts, UK vs US sales cultures, and how to sell without losing your soul.
What we Discussed:
* Why most people completely misunderstand what sales conversations are actually for
* The hidden fears behind most objections (and how to spot them early)
* The REAL reason “high-ticket” isn’t just about price and what matters more
* Why being a “friend” on a sales call might lose you the client
* How to lead conversations that challenge people without being pushy or fake
* What scripts are good for (and where they go wrong)
* Why Stu believes proof and *positioning* matter more than pitch decks
* How the UK and US markets think completely differently about buying
* Where to draw the line: when your offer should (and shouldn’t) involve a call
* What hiring a sales team actually looks like and why most business owners mess it up
Stu’s Take on Sales:
> "Sales is just a conversation between two adults, if you can’t challenge people, you shouldn’t be selling."
About Stu McKenzie:
Stu is a sales consultant and team builder who helps founders move from solo high-ticket closer to full-blown
sales team operator.
From closing on £99 challenges to scaling teams for 6- and 7-figure businesses, Stu’s known for his straight-talking
approach and deep expertise across the psychology of buyer behaviour, objection handling, and strategic team development.
Follow Stu on Instagram
✋ The Final Five:
1. Book recommendation:
Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss — for learning negotiation tactics that actually work.
2. Coffee order:
Cortado (addicted, in his own words).
3. Social media platform to kill:
Meta — no hesitation.
4. Dream dinner guests:
Jeffrey Epstein (for questions, not celebration), 50 Cent, and… an unnamed third who definitely shouldn’t be picked by Epstein.
5. One piece of advice:
> "You’re gonna have to eat some shit. Do the hard reps. Sales is still the easiest, lowest-risk path to making real money online,
but you’ve got to knock on doors before they open."
🎧 Listen now, take notes, and if you’re serious about improving your sales game this one’s unmissable.
EP 24 - The Dangerous Truth About TRT: Nutritionist Exposes What Wellness Experts Won’t Tell You
2025/06/20
In this jam-packed episode, Sam McKenzie a performance nutritionist and founder of Science to Health joins us to unpack the real science behind nutrition, health trends, and working with elite athletes.
Whether you're a coach, athlete, weekend warrior, or someone sick of misinformation online, this episode
is an eye-opener.
We get into the real-world practices vs theory, and Sam pulls no punches on pseudoscience, poor supplement advice, and the TRT craze sweeping through social media.
Expect to leave with a more critical lens, clear strategies, and a much better understanding of how to optimise your body safely.
Topics We Covered:
* Why Sam refuses to niche down and why that’s worked for him
* How he broke into working with elite athletes (and the DMs that started it all)
* The shocking truth about weight cuts in combat sports
* Why most “scientific advice” passed down in sport is wildly outdated
* Dangerous trends in fitness culture: laxatives, dehydration, and sauna abuse
* Why detoxes, alkaline water, and supplement stacks are a scam for most people
* TRT and testosterone myths: when it is needed… and when it’s a disaster
* The dark side of overtraining—and how social media fuels it
* Recovery myths vs reality (spoiler: compression boots aren’t the answer)
* How Sam balances science with empathy in his client work
* When more isn’t better, and why your stress might be your biggest health block
🧠 Final Five Questions:
1. Most Recommended Resource:
My Sport Science Academy
MNU Certification by Martin MacDonald
2. Go-to Coffee Order:
Caramel cappuccino (yes, even the nutritionist treats himself)
3. Social Platform to Kill Off:
Instagram — or at least regulate the misinformation
4. Dream Dinner Party Guests:
Gary Brecka (for a challenging conversation)
Paul Smith (comedian)
Danny Lennon (nutrition educator)
5. #1 Piece of Advice for Aspiring Coaches:
“Slow down. Do quality work. Stop chasing shortcuts—build something real.”
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