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Welcome to Leaders, Letters, and Legacy, the podcast that dives into the heart of leadership, life lessons, and the love of connection found within the fraternity and sorority community. This isn’t just a podcast about organizations—it’s about the people who shape them, the values they carry, and the legacies they're working to leave behind. Tap play for this month's conversation with a community legend, facilitated by co-hosts Dr. Mari Ann Callais and Scott Fussell.
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A Conversation with Ginny Carroll, Part 3
2026/03/26
Join us as we explore Ginny Carroll's inspiring journey from sorority leader to global changemaker in the final installment of this incredible three part series. Discover how the Circle of Sisterhood is transforming women's education worldwide and learn powerful insights on leadership, trust, and lifelong service.
Headlines
Main topics: Circle of Sisterhood’s mission and impact, Ginny Carroll’s leadership journey, the power of sorority and global women’s education advocacyLength: Approx. 30 minutes of transcript contentGinny Carroll's leadership in Alpha Z Delta and founding of Circle of SisterhoodThe mission and impact of Circle of Sisterhood in removing educational barriersHow sorority values translate into global humanitarian effortsThe story behind reading "Half the Sky" and sparking global women’s education advocacyThe power of community, trust, and lifelong membership in creating changeThe innovative school building projects and community empowerment strategiesStories of individual women and girls impacted by Circle’s workThe importance of non-traditional, grassroots support for global developmentThe role of fraternity and sorority communities in global social justiceHow young women and men alike can support and get involvedChapters
(00:02) Ginny Carroll’s leadership journey and founding Circle of Sisterhood(02:24) The mission and powerful impact of Circle of Sisterhood(04:25) The story behind the book that ignited Ginny’s passion for women’s education(07:14) How sorority networks and collaborative efforts facilitate international change(10:02) The importance of lifelong membership and intergenerational leadership(13:18) Stories of women and girls transformed by Circle’s programs(15:02) The structure and operations of the school construction projects(19:17) The significance of trust and community in sustainable development(29:36) Reflections on the future of Circle and continued global impact(45:37) How campuses and organizations can support Circle of Sisterhood(58:26) Stories of individual women and the ripple effects of education(66:47) The global scale of modern slavery and the role of education(70:45) The role of men in supporting women’s empowerment(73:41) Ginny’s vision for the next 5, 10, 15 years and beyondCircle of Sisterhood — Official website for donations and involvementHalf the Sky: Turning Oppression into Opportunity for Women Worldwide — Book that inspired Ginny’s missionAlpha Z Delta — Sorority’s official siteUnited States Agency for International Development (USAID) — Context on U.LinkedInTwitter
30+ Years of Friendship, Mentorship, and Leadership: A Conversation with Cindy Menges and Bonnie Wunsch
2026/03/25
This episode features Cindy Menges of Delta Zeta and Bonnie Wunsch of AEPhi sharing their lifelong leadership journeys, the challenges they faced as women in interfraternal spaces, and their impact on the fraternity and sorority community. They discuss the evolution of women’s roles, strategic leadership, and fostering connections that last a lifetime.Keywordsfraternity, sorority, women leadership, interfraternal, Delta Zeta, AEPhi, strategic planning, mentorship, leadership development, FEAKey TopicsWomen’s leadership in fraternities and sororitiesStrategic planning and professional development in interfraternal organizationsThe history and evolution of women’s roles in fraternity leadershipMentorship and legacy in the fraternity communityChallenges and opportunities for women in traditionally male-dominated spaces
Sound Bites
"Leadership is about connection and authenticity."
"Mentorship is the legacy that lasts a lifetime."
"Courage at a young age can define a lifetime."
Chapters
00:00 Humorous Anecdotes and Shared Experiences
00:05 Setting the Stage for Connection
00:50 Capturing Stories and Impact
01:29 Celebrating Achievements and Honors
01:33 Introducing the Guests: Bonnie and Cindy
03:08 Cindy's Perspective on the Old Guard
07:08 Bonnie's Experience and Contributions
16:54 The Journey of Commitment in the Field
25:39 Strategic Planning and Professional Development
32:15 Courage and Mentorship: Shaping Future Leaders
32:27 NEWCHAPTER
32:59 NEWCHAPTER_2
Resources
Delta Zeta Official Website - https://www.deltazeta.orgAEPhi Official Website - https://www.aephi.orgFraternity Executives Association (FEA) - https://www.fea.orgLeadership in Fraternities and Sororities (Book) - https://www.amazon.com/Leadership-Fraternities-Sororities-BookNational Hazing Prevention Week - https://www.hazingprevention.org
Guest linksLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindymengesLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bonniewunschHost linkshttp://scottfussellcoaching.comhttp://marianncallais.com
A Conversation with Circle of Sisterhood's Ginny Carroll: Part 2
2025/12/18
Welcome to part two of our conversation with Ginny Carroll, hosted by Scott Fussell and Dr. Mari Ann Callais. To get to know our hosts, please go to scottfussellcoaching.com or marianncallais.com. For now, enjoy the show...
Keywords
Circle of Sisterhood, education, women empowerment, global humanitarian efforts, sorority, philanthropy, community engagement, barriers to education, sex trafficking, personal stories
Summary
In this conversation with the life and world-changing Ginny Carroll, MAC and Scott discuss the mission and impact of the Circle of Sisterhood Foundation, an organization dedicated to removing educational barriers for girls and women globally. They explore the power of sorority women in philanthropy, the mission and impact of the foundation, and personal stories of individuals who have been positively affected by their initiatives. The conversation also addresses the challenges faced in education, including sex trafficking, and emphasizes the importance of community engagement and empowerment through education.
Chapters
00:00 Engaging Campuses in Global Efforts
02:48 The Role of Sorority Women in Philanthropy
05:58 Understanding the Circle of Sisterhood's Impact
09:40 The Process of School Builds and Community Involvement
14:34 Empowering Women Through Leadership
16:34 Impact Stories: Transforming Lives Through Education
19:01 Building Sustainable Communities
21:06 Overcoming Barriers to Education
23:58 The Ripple Effect of Small Grants
25:54 Addressing the Crisis of Sex Trafficking
29:21 The Responsibility of Privilege
Episode 40 Celebration - A Conversation with World-Changing Ginny Carroll, Circle of Sisterhood Founder and Executive Director
2025/11/14
In this engaging conversation, Scott Fussell, Dr. Mari Ann Callais, and Ginny Carroll explore the profound impact of fraternity and sorority experiences on personal growth and leadership. They discuss the importance of lifelong friendships, the journey of establishing the Circle of Sisterhood, and the role of education in empowering women globally. Ginny shares her insights on trust, community, and the necessity of taking action to create meaningful change.
Takeaways
Fraternity and sorority experiences can lead to lifelong friendships.
Leadership opportunities often arise from being nudged by others.
Education is a key factor in eradicating poverty and empowering women.
Building trust is essential in any community or organization.
The Circle of Sisterhood was founded to support girls' education worldwide.
Networking and community support are crucial for creating impactful movements.
Personal growth often comes from stepping outside of comfort zones.
Women in sororities have the power to effect change on a global scale.
Reading impactful literature can inspire action and change.
Taking initiative and not saying no for others can lead to unexpected opportunities.
Keywords
fraternity, sorority, lifelong friendship, leadership, women's empowerment, education, Circle of Sisterhood, Ginny Carroll, personal growth, community
Sound bites
"She is a world changer."
"It just makes sense."
"Sorority women have power."
Chapters
00:00 Celebrating Birthdays and Friendship
01:04 The Importance of Editing and Guest Preparation
01:31 The Value of Lifelong Fraternity and Sorority Membership
03:13 Introducing Jenny Carroll: A World Changer
06:08 The Impact of Leadership in Sororities
08:31 Building Trust and Community in the Greek System
11:23 The Birth of the Circle of Sisterhood
14:11 The Power of Education for Women Worldwide
17:49 Creating a Movement for Change
21:19 The Mission of the Circle of Sisterhood
23:52 Building Schools and Changing Lives
26:42 Engaging Campuses in Global Efforts
29:41 NEWCHAPTER
29:46 NEWCHAPTER_2
29:51 NEWCHAPTER_3
A Conversation with Rae Ann Gruver and Evelyn Piazza, Part 3
2025/09/28
Summary
The final installment of our three part conversation explores the personal stories of those affected and the advocacy efforts aimed at prevention. Rae Ann Gruver and Evelyn Piazza share their experiences as mothers who lost their sons to hazing, emphasizing the importance of community awareness and education. They discuss effective strategies for prevention, the emotional toll of sharing their stories, and their commitment to ensuring that no other family has to endure similar pain. The conversation highlights the need for ongoing dialogue about hazing and the role of personal narratives in fostering understanding and change.
Takeaways
This is a conversation about loss, love, and legacy.
Having parents of hazing victims speak is effective.
We can reach people in a way that paid speakers may not.
It's a labor of love for our kids.
We have learned to manage our time better now.
We want to be the voice for our boys.
Removing financial barriers is crucial for outreach.
Keep talking about hazing; it doesn't go away.
We are just badass mama bears.
Our boys are worth it.
Chapters
00:00 What Works in Prevention
03:56 The Emotional Toll of Advocacy
06:55 Connecting with the Community
10:20 Remembering Max and Tim
16:09 Show Production and Support
A Conversation with Rae Ann Gruver and Evelyn Piazza, Part 2
2025/09/25
Summary
This conversation delves into the critical issues surrounding hazing, its impact on mental health, and the importance of community engagement in preventing such behaviors. Rae Ann Gruver and Evelyn Piazza share their experiences and insights on how to effectively educate students, parents, and communities about the dangers of hazing and the need for proactive measures to create safer environments.
Takeaways
Hazing is a serious issue that affects students across various communities.
Engaging with high school students is crucial to prevent hazing before college.
Mental health impacts of hazing can be profound and long-lasting.
The dynamics of hazing often involve a small group of individuals perpetuating bullying behavior.
Parents play a vital role in addressing hazing and should be proactive in their involvement.
Education and awareness are key to changing the culture around hazing.
Hazing is often downplayed, but it can lead to severe consequences.
The legacy of hazing must be challenged by encouraging open conversations.
Support from parents and community leaders is essential in combating hazing.
Real stories from victims' families can resonate more than traditional prevention methods.
Chapters
00:00 The Reality of Hazing: A Societal Issue
02:04 Expanding Awareness: Reaching High School Students
06:53 Understanding the Impact of Hazing on Mental Health
10:35 The Role of Parents in Addressing Hazing
16:31 Challenging the Culture of Acceptance
21:45 The Complexity of Belonging and Hazing
24:40 The Importance of Asking Questions
26:05 Understanding Hazing and Its Impact
26:52 What Works in Prevention
A Conversation with Evelyn Piazza and Rae Ann Gruver, Part 1
2025/09/24
Summary
In this poignant episode, Evelyn Piazza and Rae Ann Gruver share their heart-wrenching stories of loss due to hazing, reflecting on the lives of their sons, Tim and Max. They discuss the profound impact of grief on their families, the importance of advocacy in hazing prevention, and the need for awareness around mental health issues related to hazing culture. Their journey from heartbreak to activism highlights the necessity of community support and the power of friendship in navigating grief.
Takeaways
Evelyn and Rae Ann's sons were victims of hazing.
The loss of a child profoundly changes family dynamics.
Grief is a daily struggle that never fully goes away.
Support from friends is crucial in times of grief.
Hazing is a serious issue that causes harm.
Mental health is deeply affected by hazing experiences.
Awareness and education are key in preventing hazing.
Families need to advocate for change in hazing laws.
The importance of sharing personal stories to raise awareness.
Reaching high school students is essential for prevention.
Sound bites
"He was just a really good kid."
"Nothing's the same after loss."
"You definitely don't get over it."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Conversation on Hazing Prevention
02:42 Remembering Max and Tim: Lives Cut Short
07:47 The Impact of Loss on Families
11:03 Transforming Grief into Advocacy
16:26 Understanding the Reality of Hazing
24:54 The Psychological Impact of Hazing
31:03 The Fight Against Hazing: A Call to Action
32:01 The Reality of Hazing: A Societal Issue
37:24 Expanding Awareness: Reaching High School Students
39:26 Show Production and Support]
A Conversation on Hazing • Featuring MAC and Scott
2025/09/24
Summary
In this episode, Scott Fussell and Dr. Mari Ann Callais engage in a profound discussion about hazing. The conversation explores the emotional impact of these tragedies, the need for education and awareness around hazing, and the importance of creating safe and supportive environments for young people. The episode emphasizes the responsibility of individuals and communities to challenge hazing practices and foster a culture of respect and understanding.
Takeaways
Hazing can have devastating consequences, as illustrated by personal stories.
Education and awareness are crucial in preventing hazing.
Communities must work together to create safe environments for youth.
The legacy of those lost to hazing can drive change.
Understanding the psychology behind hazing is essential for prevention.
It's important to challenge traditional practices that may be harmful.
Asking questions and leading with curiosity can foster dialogue about hazing.
Respect and modeling positive behavior are key in organizations.
Evolving our understanding of hazing is necessary for progress.
No one should have to endure the pain of losing a loved one to hazing.
Titles
Breaking the Silence on Hazing
Legacy of Loss: A Call to Action
Sound bites
"We have to evolve."
"Just ask a question."
"This is not okay."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Hazing Prevention Week
00:05 Personal Experiences with Hazing
01:53 Understanding Hazing and Its Impact
05:39 The Need for Change in Hazing Culture
13:12 Evolving Perspectives on Hazing
18:44 NEWCHAPTER_2
22:55 Show Production and Support
24:32 NEWCHAPTER_3
A Conversation with TJ & Joel, Part 3
2025/09/06
In this episode, we put a bow on an extraordinary three-part series looking back at TJ Sullivan and Joel Goldman's legendary program, Friendship in the Age of AIDS.
In this episode, Dr. MAC and Scott lead a discussion filled with laughs, tears, and countless lessons on life, leadership, and legacy. Part 3 of our convo with TJ and Joel covers everything from a late night in Savannah, GA to a profound experience in Laramie, Wyoming.
It's incredibly rare when the sequel holds up against the original. It's even more rare when the sequel to the sequel does so. Yet, that's where we find ourselves in this conclusion to one of the most impactful conversations we've shared to date. Tap play, enjoy, then share away. Someone you know needs to hear this episode.
Chapters
00:00 Reflections onLoss and Legacy
01:08 FindingMeaning in Personal Struggles
01:23 Navigating theChallenges of Speaking
01:54 Transitioningto New Phases of Life
03:06 The Impact ofSpeaking on Personal Health
05:33 The Fun andSeriousness of the Road
06:01 MemorableBirthdays and Life Reflections
07:16 The Evolutionof Their Speaking Journey
11:06 Final Gigs andLooking Back
16:10 PersonalJourneys and Identity
16:33 Support andAcceptance in Fraternities
20:44 Reflections onImpact and Legacy
24:00 Messages toOur Younger Selves
31:33 The Power ofFriendship and Connection
Keywords
leadership, mental health, fraternity, legacy, community, friendship, storytelling, personal growth, HIV/AIDS awareness, life lessons
A Conversation with TJ and Joel, Part 2
2025/08/22
Summary
In part two of our conversation with TJ and Joel, we explore the profound impact of storytelling and education in the fight against AIDS, and highlight their experiences as they navigated personal and public health challenges. Through humor and heartfelt narratives, they created awareness and fostered community support, ultimately saving lives and changing perceptions around HIV and AIDS.
Takeaways
The power of storytelling can create deep emotional connections.
Humor can be an effective tool in discussing serious topics.
Creating a safe space encourages open dialogue about personal experiences.
The AIDS quilt symbolizes loss and the importance of remembrance.
Generational shifts in the AIDS crisis reflect changing societal attitudes.
Education and awareness can significantly impact public health outcomes.
Personal stories can inspire others to share their own experiences.
Navigating personal emotions is crucial for effective public speaking.
The role of friendship in advocacy can enhance the message.
Cultural context plays a vital role in the effectiveness of outreach efforts.
Titles
The Healing Power of Storytelling
Creating Awareness Through Personal Narratives
Sound bites
"We were the third generation AIDS warriors."
"It was a public health crisis."
"Sex becomes your chicken burrito."
Chapters
00:00 Reflections on Loss and Legacy
02:35 The AIDS Quilt: A Symbol of Remembrance
06:26 Bringing the Message to Campuses
08:07 The AIDS Quilt Experience
11:15 Generational Perspectives on AIDS Advocacy
16:31 The Impact of Personal Stories
20:33 Cultural Shifts in AIDS Awareness
22:29 Evolution of Treatment and Perception
28:07 Humor and Connection in Education
35:02 The Power of Personal Sharing
38:18 Mindset Before Speaking Engagements
38:50 The Power of Authentic Storytelling
40:06 Creating Safe Spaces for Sharing
40:35 Finding Meaning in Personal Struggles
42:04 Navigating the Challenges of Speaking
Keywords
AIDS, storytelling, education, awareness, friendship, public health, HIV, cultural impact, personal stories, advocacy
A Conversation with TJ and Joel, Part 1
2025/08/16
Summary
In this engaging conversation, Scott Fussell and Dr. Mari Ann Callais discuss the impactful journey of Joel Goldman and TJ Sullivan, who pioneered the program 'Friendship in the Age of AIDS.' The discussion covers their personal stories, the origins of the program, its evolution, and the significant impact it had on college campuses. The guests reflect on the importance of inclusivity, the challenges of addressing mental health, and the organic development of their speaking engagements, emphasizing the role of community support in their success.
Keywords
Friendship in the Age of AIDS, HIV education, college campuses, inclusivity, mental health, speaking engagements, personal stories, fraternity and sorority life, public health, storytelling
Takeaways
Dr. Mari Ann Callais shares her excitement about reconnecting with old friends.
The importance of reflection and clarity in personal growth.
Joel Goldman and TJ Sullivan's program was groundbreaking in AIDS education.
The program aimed to educate students while infusing humor into serious topics.
The initial title of the program was 'Fraternity Brothers Get AIDS Too.'
The duo did not expect their program to last for eight years.
Inclusivity was a core value in their presentations.
They navigated the complexities of discussing sexual orientation in their program.
The impact of their program was felt across many college campuses.
The organic development of their program led to unexpected moments that resonated with audiences.
Sound bites
"We didn't expect it to go eight years."
"Inclusivity was a major value for us."
"We didn't know why they gasped."
Chapters
00:00 Reflections on Loss and Legacy
04:34 The Impact of the Program on College Campuses
15:59 The First Steps: From Idea to Implementation
16:56 Navigating Challenges and Learning Experiences
19:03 Inclusivity and Representation in Messaging
22:25 The Impact of Humor and Storytelling
26:07 The AIDS Quilt: A Symbol of Remembrance
To book Dr. MAC or Scott, go to...
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A Conversation with Beta Theta Pi's Dr. Tom Purinton
2025/08/15
Keywords
Beta Theta Pi, fraternity, mentorship, leadership, Men of Principle Initiative, hazing, values, connection, personal growth, community
Summary
In this conversation, Dr. Tom Purinton shares his transformative journey within Beta Theta Pi, highlighting the importance of mentorship, the challenges faced by fraternity chapters, and the impact of the Men of Principle Initiative. He discusses the significance of connection and values in fraternity life, the ongoing struggles, and the need for modern approaches to teaching fraternity values. The conversation culminates in a reflection on personal growth and the importance of embracing the journey of fraternity membership.
Takeaways
Mentorship can profoundly impact personal growth.
Fraternity chapters often face cultural challenges.
The Men of Principle Initiative aims to align values and behaviors.
Voting for change can be a pivotal moment for chapters.
Experiences like the Institute can change lives.
Connection among members is crucial for fraternity success.
Hazing remains a complex issue in fraternity culture.
Teaching values in a modern context is essential.
Building relationships is key to fraternity life.
Embracing the journey of fraternity membership is vital.
Sound Bites
"You cannot out give Beta Theta Pi"
"We are in pursuit of our values"
"You earn your badge every day"
Chapters
00:00 The Men of Principle Initiative: Aligning Values and Behaviors
04:23 The Challenge of Dry Recruitment
06:24 Launching the Men of Principle Initiative
08:31 The First Institute Experience
08:50 Transformative Moments in Leadership Development
10:29 Reflections on Hazing and Change
12:12 Teaching Values in Modern Fraternity Life
16:38 The Importance of Connection and Community
22:13 Personal Growth Through Fraternity Involvement
34:33 Earning Your Badge Every Day
42:39 New Chapter
49:46 New Chapter 2
A Conversation with Beta Theta Pi Living Legend, Dr. Tom Purinton
2025/07/30
Summary
In this conversation, Tom "Dr. P." Purinton, past General Fraternity President for Beta Theta Pi, shares his transformative journey within Beta Theta Pi, highlighting the importance of mentorship, the challenges faced by fraternity chapters, and the impact of the Men of Principle Initiative. He reflects on the cultural shift toward living by the fraternity's values, the significance of connection and community, and the ongoing pursuit of values in fraternity life. The discussion emphasizes personal growth, the importance of living one's values, and the legacy of fraternity experiences.
Keywords
Beta Theta Pi, fraternity, mentorship, Men of Principle Initiative, leadership, personal growth, community, values, connection
Takeaways
Mentorship can profoundly impact one's journey in fraternity life.
The Men of Principle Initiative aims to align values and behaviors.
Chapters often face cultural pressures that challenge their values.
Connection and community are essential for personal growth.
Teaching values in a modern context is crucial for fraternity success.
Intentionality in recruitment can lead to better chapter experiences.
Fraternity experiences should foster a sense of belonging and support.
Living the values of the fraternity is an ongoing journey.
Intergenerational relationships enrich the fraternity experience.
Chapters
00:00 The Men of Principle Initiative: Aligning Values and Behaviors
04:20 The "Challenge" of Dry Recruitment
06:20 Launching the Men of Principle Initiative
08:27 The First Institute Experience
08:46 Transformative Moments in Leadership Development
10:31 Reflections on Hazing and Change
12:14 Teaching Values in Modern Fraternity Life
15:59 The Importance of Connection and Community
22:10 Personal Growth Through Fraternity Involvement
34:31 Earning Your Badge Every Day
Part 2 of Our Look Back at Our Conversation with Cheryl Turner, Nat'l President of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
2025/07/16
As we look back at some of our previous episodes from seasons 1 and 2, it just seems right we shine a celebratory light on one of our new favorite people on the planet, newly-elected President of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Cheryl Turner. For an episode rich with story, leadership, and social consciousness, open the notes app on your phone, turn up the volume, tap play, and enjoy part two of our conversation with one extraordinary leader.
Part 1 of Our Look Back at Our Conversation with Cheryl Turner, Nat'l President of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
2025/07/16
As we look back at some of our previous episodes from seasons 1 and 2, it just seems right we shine a celebratory light on one of our new favorite people on the planet, newly-elected President of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Cheryl Turner. For an episode rich with story, leadership, and social consciousness, open the notes app on your phone, turn up the volume, tap play, and enjoy part one of our conversation with one extraordinary leader.
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3deltasis 2025/04/15
A must listen
The folks being interviewed are outstanding figures in the Inter fraternal world. A list of who’s who. Mac and Scott, who themselves are renown in G...
moodle slater 2025/03/03
Wonderful Look at Greek Life
… and how it calls all members to better things! I am really enjoying the thoughtfulness—and thought-provoking nature—of this new podcast and can’t wa...
willtakewell 2024/12/06
Excited for future episodes!
Loved the first episode featuring Dr. Lori Hart! She can tell a story like no other. Excited for the future episodes and what’s to come. This storytel...
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