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The Oprah Podcast is home to all-new conversations featuring Oprah Winfrey and today’s foremost thought leaders, global newsmakers, best-selling authors, visionaries and cultural changemakers. Exploring timely themes, including happiness, resilience, consciousness and connection, the weekly series aims to help listeners on their journey to lead their best life. Oprah talks to people about what matters most to them in this moment. Every month, she will feature interviews with authors called ‘Oprah’s Book Club Presented by Starbucks’ with live audiences in Starbucks across the country.
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What If Your Greatest Adversity Has a Purpose?
2026/10/15
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Ahead of All Parting by Barry Michels
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Psychotherapist and bestselling co-author of The Tools, Barry Michels, joins the podcast to discuss his extraordinary new memoir, Ahead of All Parting. This is a conversation for anyone searching for meaning in life’s most difficult moments and seeking to discover how transformation is possible in the face of extreme adversity. Barry has been diagnosed with a terminal brain disease, Lewy body dementia. Despite the inevitable pain and grief that come with a devastating health diagnosis, he now sees it as the path he was meant to walk—a path that has opened him up in ways he never thought possible, revealing the power of vulnerability, love, prayer and the written word. Drew Barrymore, one of Barry’s longtime clients, also joins the conversation to share the life-changing impact he’s had on her life.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:14 - Welcome Barry Michels, author of Ahead of All Parting
00:06:35 - Barry speaks on Lewy Body dementia
00:09:20 - Grief after hearing a diagnosis
00:12:18 - When did Barry notice something was off
00:14:14 - Getting a diagnosis
00:16:15 - Adversity has a purpose
00:19:45 - Not hiding after a diagnosis
00:20:25 - Welcome Drew Barrymore
00:23:00 - Drew Barrymore on going through challenges
00:25:50 - Drew Barrymore on watching Barry navigate his illness
00:27:20 - How the diagnosis changed Barry as a therapist
00:28:30 - Appreciating life
00:29:50 - Feeling guilt with a diagnosis
00:38:22: Welcome Alex, who was diagnosed with kidney failure
00:43:22 - Religion during a diagnosis
00:49:20 - Barry Michels on writing
00:54:00 - Barry Michels on seeing his mortality
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What Every Woman (and Man Who Knows Her) Needs to Know About Menopause
2026/10/13
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Millions of women continue to suffer in silence or confusion without the guidance or resources they need to feel prepared for perimenopause, menopause and post menopause. Oprah talks with Pilar Guzmán, Editorial Director of Oprah Daily, to discuss The Book of Menopause: Real Talk, Real Science, Real Strategies for Your Next Chapter - the new book from the editors of Oprah Daily. Drawing on insights from leading doctors, psychologists and women’s health experts, the book offers practical guidance to help demystify menopause. It offers help understanding how the body is changing, strategies for navigating symptoms and new perspectives to offer information and empowerment for what's next. Oprah and Pilar share their own personal experiences and explore why menopause is still surrounded in misinformation and shame. Joining them are board-certified OB/GYN and menopause practitioner, Dr. Mary Claire Haver and renowned neuroscientist, Dr. Lisa Mosconi, Director of the Women's Brain Initiative at Weill Cornell Medicine/New York-Presbyterian Hospital.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:43 - Welcome Editorial Director of Oprah Daily: Pilar Guzmán
00:02:55 - Oprah’s experience with menopause
00:04:30 - Why is there still stuff we don’t know about menopause
00:06:35 - How to take away the shame of menopause
00:08:37 - Welcome Dr. Mary Claire Haver
00:10:30 - What happened with the Women’s Health Intiative?
00:14:40 - GLP-1’s and Hormone Therapy are game-changers for Menopause
00:20:00 - Welcome Dr. Lisa Mosconi
00:22:48 - Brain fog in menopause
00:26:20 - Puberty, pregnancy, and menopause
00:29:40 - Alzheimer’s disease in women
00:37:55 - What all women should ask their doctor
00:40:25 - Menopause in relationships
00:45:00 - The biggest surprise in menopause research
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Why Is America Different Than Every Other Country When It Comes to Guns?
2026/10/08
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The American Way of Killing by Malcolm Gladwell
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Malcolm Gladwell - one of America’s foremost thought leaders - examines our country’s obsession with guns and the devastating toll gun violence has taken on our communities. In his new book, The American Way of Killing: The Invention of an Epidemic, Malcolm challenges some of our most deeply held beliefs about American gun violence: what we’re missing about the root cause of most violence, how modern medicine is obscuring the reality of the problem, why the answer might be more police—not less—and how we’ve lost sight of the historical context surrounding the Second Amendment. Oprah and Malcolm speak with a Chicago based E.R. doctor who lost 15 close friends and family members to gun violence. He teaches students as young as fourth grade how to treat a gunshot wound. This episode also offers some common sense solutions to a seemingly intractable problem.
00:00:00 - Welcome Malcolm Gladwell, author of “The American Way of Killing”
00:04:20 - European vs. American police
00:08:50 - Stats around more police
00:09:50 - Malcolm’s experience with guns
00:13:30 - Welcome Dr. Pratt
00:16:33 - Talking to kids about gun violence
00:19:15 - Changing gun violence
00:21:00 - Treating gun shot wounds
00:25:13 - The 2nd amendment
00:29:00 - Crime vs. violence
00:33:45 - Instrumental vs. expressive violence
00:40:00 - Are we learning from our mistakes?
00:43:00 - The gun problem is not unsolvable
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Amanda Rizkalla: “Hungered” | Oprah’s Book Club
2026/10/06
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The 125th Oprah’s Book Club selection is the stunning debut novel Hungered by author Amanda Rizkalla. Written from the perspective of 12-year-old Sofia, Hungered gives a unique look inside the world of a family who is unhoused. Amanda shares how her personal experience of losing their housing and living in a car with her family as a child inspired her to write this poignant and beautiful story. Oprah and Amanda have a thoughtful discussion about how - despite the daily struggle to survive - the fictional Sofia and her family are still able to experience joy, humor and compassion. We hear from several readers including a young woman who says that Amanda’s novel resonated with her because she also experienced being unhoused as a child.
00:00:00 - Welcome Amanda Rizkalla, author of “Hungered”
00:02:10 - Amanda shares why she wrote the book
00:05:00 - The plot of Hungered
00:06:40 - Understanding being unhoused
00:12:40 - Growing up mixed race
00:18:15 - Amanda on choosing the mother’s career
00:22:20 - Theme of not belonging
00:26:15 - Amanda’s writing process
00:28:40 - The ending of the book
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The Optimism We All Need Right Now with Simon Sinek
2026/10/01
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Start with Why by Simon Sinek
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Simon Sinek’s landmark New York Times bestseller Start with Why transformed how leaders, entrepreneurs and employees think - inspiring them to shift their focus from what they do to why they do it. Simon brought this revolutionary concept to life with his Ted Talk, "How Great Leaders Inspire Action" which instantly went viral - and now ranks as the fourth most-watched Ted talk of all time with more than 90 million views.
In this conversation, Oprah and Simon talk about how to feel more energized, optimistic and engaged in your work and life - especially at times of high anxiety and uncertainty. Simon answers questions from several viewers including a woman who is considering leaving her 9-5 job to become an entrepreneur, one who is still looking for her dream job at age 49 and another who is terrified about losing her identity as she faces retirement. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone who may be feeling a little lost and looking for clarity, direction and optimism.
00:00:00 - Welcome Simon Sinek, author of “Start with Why”
00:05:15 - The golden circle
00:09:15 - Asking for help
00:10:30 - Why vs. intention
00:13:30 - The thread of your life
00:17:40 - The age of the Influencer
00:20:10 - Optimism meaning
00:27:10 - Introverts and extroverts
00:28:40 - Blocking out doubt when chasing your why
00:32:30 - Jobs are not safe
00:34:50 - Find your guiding question
00:41:40 - Is a "dream job" a goal?
00:48:39 - The friend test
00:54:00 - The importance of relationships
00:55:20 - The key to finding your why
00:57:00 - A well-lived life
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30 Years of Oprah’s Book Club: The Authors Behind the Stories We Love
2026/09/29
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To celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of Oprah’s Book Club - Oprah is joined by four multiple-award winning, best-selling authors including: Viola Davis, Barbara Kingsolver, Abraham Verghese and Ocean Vuong. In her backyard under the oak trees Oprah and these masterful storytellers have a thoughtful conversation about the craft of writing, their processes and the significance the reader brings to their work. Among their works they discuss these Oprah's Book club picks: Finding Me, Demon Copperhead, The Poisonwood Bible, The Emperor of Gladness and The Covenant of Water.
00:00:00 - Welcome authors Barbara Kingsolver, Abraham Verghese, Viola Davis and Ocean Vuong
00:04:30 - Finding characters
00:06:50 - Becoming a writer
00:09:00 - How Viola became a writer
00:12:48 - Viola reading her memoir
00:17:20 - What writers are noticing about right now
00:22:30 - What does being a bestseller mean
00:28:00 - Greatest compliments about their work
00:39:50 - The magic of writing
00:43:00 - When is a sentence done?
00:47:30 - Finding your title
00:52:00 - Is writing personal therapy?
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Give Yourself a Year to Try 12 New Things and Embrace Change
2026/09/24
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'Give Me a Year' by Shonda Scott
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When is the last time you tried something new? Entrepreneur and author Shonda Scott, whose book Give Me a Year: 12 New Things to Embrace Change and Live Your Best Life chronicles how she stepped outside her comfort zone, embraced change and challenged herself to try something new every month for a full year. Shonda shares how those experiences helped her find joy, overcome fear and keep moving forward even when life took some unexpected turns. Then, Oprah meets writer Jason McBride whose viral article “How to Create a Life You Love: No Magical Thinking Required” struck a chord with its message that building a fulfilling life isn’t about having the perfect job, relationship or circumstances it’s about taking responsibility for the life you’re creating. They talk about what it really means to stop living by someone else’s blueprint, learn from things that don't go as planned and create a life we actually love.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Welcome Shonda Scott, author of ‘Give Me a Year’
00:03:20 - Why she wrote the book
00:08:00 - Write it down and vision birds
00:09:48 - Overcoming fears
00:11:20 - Pull up a seat to the table
00:12:40 - Imposter syndrome
00:16:30 - How to show up for ourselves
00:22:00 - Put yourself at the top of your list
00:24:30 - Shonda’s top 3 things
00:27:44 - Small changes to create big ones
00:29:00 - Welcome Jason McBride
00:32:00 - The three things you can control in your life
00:34:30 - Failure is part of the process
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How to Work with Difficult People (Without Losing Yourself)
2026/09/22
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How to Work With Complicated People by Ryan Leak
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New York Times bestselling author Ryan Leak joins Oprah at her tea house for a practical conversation about navigating difficult workplace relationships. Drawing from his book How to Work with Complicated People Ryan shares why the people we work with, more than the work itself, often determine how fulfilled we feel on the job. He breaks down four strategies for working through challenging dynamics, introduces the idea of an “expectations detox” and offers a powerful reminder: we’re all complicated to someone else. This conversation isn’t about fixing other people, it’s about growing ourselves through greater self-awareness, understanding, and emotional maturity. Oprah and Ryan are also joined by listeners with real workplace dilemmas, tackling questions about bridging generational divides, leading with empathy while still meeting goals and setting healthy boundaries with colleagues who seem beyond complicated. It’s a practical and relatable conversation filled with tools to help anyone build stronger relationships at work and beyond.
00:00:00 - Welcome Ryan Leak, author of “How to Work with Complicated People”
00:04:50 - People problems at work
00:07:00 -We never think we’re the problem
00:07:58 - 4 ways people deal with complicated people
00:11:30 - Importance of partnership
00:12:20 - Expectations detox
00:14:50 - Our unrealistic expectations
00:15:38 - What should we do in the moment
00:18:20 - Be the adult in the room
00:21:00 - Generational differences
00:24:00 - Questions to ask
00:27:50 - How to communicate better
00:29:20 - How to set the tone as a leader
00:33:00 - You choose your reaction
00:34:28 - Why half of Americans quit
00:39:10 - When is it not possible
00:43:00 - How to grow yourself
00:44:40 - One word Ryan lives by
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Inner Excellence: Train Your Mind for the Best Possible Life with Oprah and Jim Murphy
2026/09/17
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Inner Excellence by Jim Murphy
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Performance coach and bestselling author Jim Murphy’s book Inner Excellence took the world by storm and rocketed to #1 after NFL wide receiver A.J. Brown was spotted reading it during a playoff game. Seemingly overnight the book became a New York Times bestseller, resonating far beyond the world of sports. Drawing from the powerful lessons in Inner Excellence Jim shares the mental tools you can cultivate to help manage your mind, unlock your potential and expand what's possible in your life. He also discusses his transformative new book, The Best Possible Life, revealing how you can cultivate greater peace, purpose and fulfillment.
00:00:00 - Welcome Jim Murphy, author of Inner Excellence
00:04:40 - Jim’s path to inner excellence
00:07:40 - The pursuit of joy
00:11:40 - How to manage our minds
00:13:20 - 5 questions to clear a mental block
00:15:30 - 2 paths in life
00:18:40 - Post sports identity
00:21:30 - The definition of Zoe
00:24:10 - Jim’s advice to those on the journey
00:27:00 - How to figure out what matters
00:30:30 - How to detach from the outcome of your goals
00:35:50 - Power of intention
00:39:55 - We are all human
00:41:20 - Keeping our ego in check
00:47:55 - The pursuit of success
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Oprah’s Greatest Conversations with Authors: 30 Years of Oprah’s Book Club
2026/09/16
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In this special bonus episode Oprah celebrates the 30th anniversary of Oprah’s Book Club and reflects on how her lifelong love of reading became a cultural phenomenon. Oprah revisits some of her most treasured conversations with the writers she calls her “rock stars” and celebrates three decades of connecting readers with great books.
We hear her conversations with Toni Morrison, Ocean Vuong, Wally Lamb, Anthony Ray Hinton, Abraham Verghese, Maya Angelou, Elizabeth Strout, Tayari Jones, Barbara Kingsolver, Cormac McCarthy, Colson Whitehead, Elie Wiesel, Nathan Harris, and Oscar winner Sidney Poitier.
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Heart Disease Kills More Women than All the Forms of Cancer Combined
2026/09/15
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The Healing Power of Resistance by Dr. Tara Narula
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Heart disease is the number one killer of women in America. One of the country’s leading cardiologists is ABC News chief medical correspondent Dr. Tara Narula who, earlier this year, released her New York Times bestselling book The Healing Power of Resilience: A New Prescription for Health and Well-Being. Oprah and Dr. Narula discuss the hidden warning signs of heart disease and how you can take better care of your cardiovascular health. Dr. Narula also explains how your connection to faith, purpose and hope can help you live a more meaningful life and beat the odds of heart disease. We also hear from a young woman in her thirties currently living with heart failure, another woman who used GLP-1s with great results towards her cardiovascular health and a patient who says Dr. Narula saved her life.
00:00:00 Welcome Dr. Narula, author of “The Healing Power of Resilience"
00:05:20 - Stats of women’s heart health
00:11:20 - Cardiovascular disease is happening to women younger and younger
00:16:30 - Stress, women and heart health
00:24:10 - 60% of Black women live with cardiovascular disease
00:25:50 - social determinants of health
00:29:15 - Heart benefits of GLP-1s
00:32:20 - Menopause and heart health
00:37:00 - High blood pressure and heart health
00:39:20 - Faith, purpose and your health
00:42:40 - Life’s essential 8 checklist
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The Lindsay Clancy Case, Understanding Postpartum Psychosis
2026/09/10
The Lindsay Clancy case has captured the nation’s attention, causing heated debate in the national conversation. On January 24, 2023 Lindsay Clancy strangled her three children in her basement and then attempted suicide by jumping from a second-story window in her house. The resulting injuries left her paralyzed from the waist down. After 21 days of testimony from more than 80 witnesses, the jury was not able to reach a unanimous decision. Lindsay Clancy’s defense team has argued that she is not guilty by reason of insanity as she was experiencing postpartum psychosis, while the prosecution argued she committed premeditated first degree murder. Oprah is in Massachusetts for a wide-ranging conversation about the case with an audience including an exclusive interview with Meg Hamp, a nurse who worked alongside Lindsay for 7 years and testified at her trial - plus medical experts, legal scholars and women who have personally experienced postpartum psychosis. Their stories give us a rare, first-hand insight into what it is to experience this challenging mental health issue. Oprah will also talk with social critics who will share their opinions and she will hear speculation on many sides of the case. Oprah has hosted conversations on postpartum depression and psychosis for 40 years with the intention of providing a platform for a mature discussion.
This podcast episode contains discussions of murder, suicide, and mental illness that may be upsetting to some listeners. Listener discretion is advised.
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Oprah Celebrates 40 Years of The Oprah Winfrey Show
2026/09/08
Today—September 8, 1986—marks the 40th anniversary of one of the most momentous days in Oprah's life and career. Forty years ago today the very first nationally syndicated episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show aired launching what would become a 25 year cultural phenomenon and pioneering television. In this special anniversary episode Oprah reflects on her extraordinary journey—from her early days as a news anchor in Nashville and Baltimore to her first audition tape and the lessons she learned hosting AM Chicago, the show that brought her to the Windy City. She also reveals the enduring early lessons that shaped her life's purpose and continue to guide her work today as well as how she lives each day in gratitude for what she considers a God-given opportunity.
00:00:00 Oprah on the beginning of The Oprah Winfrey Show
00:04:00 Oprah and Barbara Walters
00:09:00 Oprah’s audition and Dennis Swanson
00:18:30 - Oprah’s journal entry before her first national show
00:20:00 - Oprah's first show
00:30:00 - Oprah’s last show
00:35:50 - Don Johnson’s surprise
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Daughters Are Struggling. Here's What They Need From Us with Psychologist Dr. Shefali
2026/09/03
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Oprah continues her two-part conversation with New York Times bestselling author and world-renowned clinical psychologist Dr. Shefali about her new books, Raising Conscious Sons: Cultivating Purpose, Connection, and Inner Power in a Chaotic World and Raising Conscious Daughters: Building Confidence, Courage, and Inner Power in an Anxious World. In part two, Oprah and Dr. Shefali focus on the unique challenges facing girls today and the hidden struggles behind the achievement and confidence the world often sees on the surface. Dr. Shefali explores the rise of anxiety, depression, self-harm, cyberbullying, perfectionism and self-doubt among young women. Dr. Shefali also explains how the pressures of the digital age, constant comparison, unrealistic expectations and what she calls the perception prison are shaping girls' mental health. She unpacks the 'psychology of more' describing it as one of the most corrosive forces affecting young women today and shares practical guidance for helping daughters trust their inner voice and stay connected to their authentic selves. Oprah and Dr. Shefali are also joined by four mothers who share their questions about raising daughters.
00:00:00 Welcome Dr. Shefali, author of “Raising Conscious Daughters”
00:04:00 - Conscious parenting
00:07:30 - Parents wakeup call
00:08:30 - Stats about girls
00:16:00 - Pressures of teen girls
00:21:00 - Teaching anti-fragility
00:23:00 - Pain as a teacher
00:26:00 - It's not your job to keep your kids happy
00:27:00 - Comparison culture
00:29:00 - Stop chasing worth
00:32:20 - How the patriarchy has affected girls
00:33:40 - The culture of never good enough
00:36:00 - Algorithms exploit our children
00:40:33 - Bullying and cyberbullying
00:45:00 - The dangers of obedience
00:47:50 - Three sacred pillars
00:49:50 - Message for parents
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Sons Are Struggling. Here’s What They Need from Us with Psychologist Dr. Shefali
2026/09/01
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Oprah speaks with New York Times bestselling author and world-renowned clinical psychologist Dr. Shefali for a powerful two-part conversation about her new books, Raising Conscious Sons: Cultivating Purpose, Connection, and Inner Power in a Chaotic World and Raising Conscious Daughters: Building Confidence, Courage, and Inner Power in an Anxious World. Drawing on decades of clinical experience and her groundbreaking work on conscious parenting, Dr. Shefali explores the urgent challenges facing children today and offers a new vision for raising the next generation with emotional security, confidence and compassion. In part one, Oprah and Dr. Shefali discuss Raising Conscious Sons and the conflicting messages boys receive in today’s world: from the pressure to be tough, the expectation to suppress vulnerability to messages around identity and male sexuality. Shaped by a digital world she explains how we are experiencing a parental and cultural emergency. She believes we are in a crisis where our sons are losing the essential ingredients of what make a healthy boyhood: wellness, movement, tribe, adventure, risk, connection and sovereignty. Dr. Shefali reveals what sons want most from their fathers and mothers and how parents can help their sons build a deeper connection to their emotions and discover their own sense of purpose. Oprah and Dr. Shefali are joined by three mothers who share their questions about raising sons.
00:00:00 Welcome Dr. Shefali, author of “Raising Conscious Sons”
00:04:30 - The concept of conscious parenting
00:06:45 - Parents wakeup call
00:09:45 - The isolation of boyhood
00:13:00 - We are moving away from a shared reality
00:18:30 - Movement helps regulate boys
00:24:00 - What sons want most from their fathers
00:27:00 - What moms can do for their sons
00:34:00 - Teaching boys to express feelings
00:36:40 - Raising boys with empathy
00:39:30 - Talking to sons about sex
00:41:40 - Understand what your kid is exposed to online
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Love you, Oprah!
Thank you for an informative episode touching on a difficult topic and delivered so accessibly by you and Gladwell.
Corporate wealthfare 2026/10/04
Oprah Product of Greeeed
This is what happens to someone who is to far out of touch with reality.... You become greeedier, Neo liberal or neo conservitive, buy native lands, s...
Concerned ö 2026/09/29
Oprah
Somehow, this podcast ended up as a recommendation in my feed; a recommendation that I didn’t ask for and can’t seem to remove. When I was younger, I ...
jules17330 2026/09/25
Easily my favorite podcast
This podcast never disappoints. Oprah tells relevant stories, invites experts to speak, and has intelligent, interesting guests ask thoughtful questio...
A knight 538 2026/09/21
Can’t get enough Oprah
Still amazing and insightful
@paxjlong 2026/09/20
It’s Oprah…
Of course it’s great 😊
Kaydee Monty 2026/09/17
Do another AI episode
Oprah shines always but especially when she’s talking about AI. Please do more. Especially as there’s a call for a slow down and more regulation. Give...
Computer literate NOT 2026/09/13
Amazing and important discussion of postpartum psychosis!
As a board-certified obstetrician gynecologist, I so appreciate my Black colleague being in the room to call attention to the fact that mothers of col...
Sodapoptexas 2026/09/12
Stop interrupting!
Oprah, you consistently interrupt your guests so much that it almost ruins the interview. So many times they never get to finish their statements or t...
Adventure Hooligan 2026/09/12
Love this podcast!
So interesting and relevant! So well done.
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