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2024/12/16
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2026/10/22
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A podcast focused on Founders of Dental and Healthcare practices. I'll share the experience and wisdom I’ve gained over the last 3 decades leading award-winning businesses for Corporate America as well as guiding entrepreneurs just like you to build and exit successful group practices. If you’ve mastered your clinical craft, then now’s the time to become a Next Level Executive.
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Group Dental Practice Leadership: 4 Surprising Mistakes You Make in Strategic Planning
2026/10/22
I’m constantly asked the question, “How do I build a group dental practice that runs without me?” It’s easier said than done, but a major component of it is to ensure that your team executes on the strategies that you put before them.While there are hundreds of mistakes you can make along the way, there are 4 I see people making most often – and repeatedly.I can all but promise you that you’ll see yourself in at least one of these. If you’re ready to face the music, then “push play,”…1:37 When excitement turns to frustration7:10 An event or a process?8:50 The relentless pursuit of more11:00 Clarity, urgency and…fear?13:15 12 months or 90 days?…Other Episodes You’ll Love:15 Effective Executive: Professional Inflection Points and Key Decisions to Make (part 1)17 Effective Executive: Personal Inflection Points and Key Decisions to Make (part 2)…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected]Love this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide at: www.GroupPractice.Coach Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | www.TheNextLevelExecutive.com © 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
Leading Your Group Dental Practice: Strategy vs Tactics – What’s the Difference?
2026/10/15
Everyone I’ve worked with has the desire to transition from a Clinician to a CEO for one common reason: they’re burned out on clinical services and they want to focus on strategy. But what exactly is ”strategy?” If you can’t draw the distinction between vision, goals, strategy, tactics and execution, then chances are they all means the same thing in your organization – and they’re surely not.Part of being an effective executive is creating clarity, especially when it translates into results. If your group dental practice is failing to deliver on the results you had intended, then time to “push play.”…3:05 The problem at hand: strategy and tactics are not the same thing5:50 Connecting Vision, Goals, Strategy, Tactics and Operational Execution9:50 Some specific examples from my 15 years at Patterson18:50 Your After Action Items to work on…Other Episodes You’ll Love:9 Is Yours an “Execution Business”?56 Preparing for Growth and Sizing Up Risk…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] Love this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide at www.GroupPractice.Coach Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | www.TheNextLevelExecutive.com © 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
Leading Your Group Dental Practice: Key Takeaways from the CEO Working Group Session
2026/10/08
“Dental Practice Executive Leadership” probably wasn’t one of the courses offered in dental school, but it has become of paramount importance in building and leading a multi-location group practice.
I recently hosted my Next Level Executive group in Austin for two very intense days that were 100% devoted to each of them improving their leadership skills and effectiveness as an executive. In short, we were all there to learn how to deliver greater results.
I’m confident we did just that. I asked two special guests, Dr. Andrew Matta and Carrie Williams, to share some of their unique perspective with you on what those two days were all about. Push play!
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CHAPTERS:
3:15 What does “Leadership” mean and why is it so important in today’s world of dentistry?
10:30 What makes certain Leaders great at what they do? And others less so?
16:30 Some thinking tools, frameworks, applications and tools you can apply
33:15 Current state of the market and the “Opportunity at Hand” for those in the emerging group practice space
39:30 Your own “Professional Development” and growth as a leader
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Other Episodes You’ll Love:
12 You’re Ready to be a Leader – Even Though You Don’t Believe It Yet
15 The Last Thing You Need is a Strategy
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Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected]
Love this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!
Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading.
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Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE.
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© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
Why We’re Going to Have 2 or 3 More DSOs IPO in the next 18 months
2026/10/01
In December of 2025, Park Dental Partners, a doctor-owned and debt funded group of close to 100 practices in Minneapolis, went public. They’re not going to be the last. If you’re leading an emerging group practice, competing with publicly traded DSOs will dramatically change the landscape in every aspect: M&A, recruiting, technology, etc. It is inevitable that several more PE-backed DSOs will go public before the end of 2027. If you want to know why…“push play.”…CHAPTERS:The success of PARKWhy they did it and what it meansFour reasons why a handful of PE-backed DSOs must go publicI’ve lived on both sides of private versus publicYour marching orders…Other Episodes You’ll Love:5 Effective Executive: Leading from the Front56 Preparing for Growth & Sizing Up Risk…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
What’s Going to Happen to the Zombie DSOs – and What You Need to Prepare for Now
2026/09/24
A few months ago, I dropped an episode on “The Era of the Zombie DSO” where I shared my view on the 50 to 70 PE-backed DSOs that couldn’t get a recap done. Their incompetence is your opportunity, but it’s up to you to get a return on that.If you’re looking to become a better leader of your own practice or group, a lot of that will begin and end with the people you bring into the organization. Tune in to hear how you should prepare ahead of time.Want to know how it’s going to play out? Time to “push play”…CHAPTERS:Jim Collins’s concept of “Return on Luck”Who – Not HowHow a DSO can quickly create more EBITDAA haul of talent entering the marketDon’t forget about Associates…Other Episodes You’ll Love:3 The Era of the Zombie DSOs15 Effective Executive: Professional Inflection Points & Key Decisions to Make (part 1)…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE.Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
You Should Quit Trying to Scale Your Business
2026/09/23
In a world still focused on “10X’ing your business” and “Scale for Sale,” there’s only one problem with all of that: this growth strategy is completely wrong. The reason that it’s only creating chaos for so many of your colleagues is very simple. It’s backwards.If you want to learn the right way to build a group practice…then “push play.”…CHAPTERS:My frustration with our industryA group practice or a group OF practices?What your new growth strategy should beExample of greatness number one: Dr. JamesExample of greatness number two: Dr. Todd…Other Episodes You’ll Love:5 Effective Executive: Leading from the Front56 Preparing for Growth & Sizing Up Risk…Want to talk about your own journey? Email me directly: [email protected] this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
Built to Win: a Deep Conversation with Dr. Chris Murphy & Dr. Matt O’Shea
2026/09/10
I created a component of my Next Level Executive program called “Entrepreneurial Leadership” for a reason: because I truly believe that you and I can create a successful business that is congruent with the lifestyle we want to lead. In short, I believe our business can be a complement to our life – not compete with it.Business ownership is a full-contact sport – even in a healthcare services environment. And it has to be built to win. Wanna know what winning sounds like? I’ll let two of my friends tell you…time to “push play”…CHAPTERS:Two Entrepreneurs who happen to own clinical services businessesOvercoming the fear of making investments in your businessImpact and Fulfillment is the ultimate outcome as a business ownerLeading a nimble business in an ever-changing environmentAbundance and optimism with your hands firmly on the steering wheel…Other Episodes You’ll Love:36 Success vs Fulfillment55 Ceilings of Complexity and Inflection Points…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] a Call to Discuss the Executive ProgramLove this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
Doubling Down on Commitment: Should You Stay or Should You Go?
2026/09/03
Everyone in this audience is a successful clinician and business owner, but each of us has experienced a point of burnout from owning a dental practice.So, if you didn’t already own your business, would you buy it? And if you had it to do all over again, would you become a dentist? Think very hard about your answer…Then “push play”…CHAPTERS:Moore’s Law and the most successful “pivot” in Corporate America historyIs it time for you to pivot, too?My MBA case study on your industryMy job performance “needs improvement”…Other Episodes You’ll Love:2 Frames of Reference and the Merits of the Model21 Taking stock of where you are and what you want…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] a Call to Discuss the Executive ProgramLove this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
The Last Thing You Need is a Strategy
2026/08/27
If you’re going to build a group dental practice that isn’t dependent upon you or your clinical skills, then it had better be one that that executes at a high level. If execution equals performance, then why do so many dentists incorrectly think they need to be great at strategy?It may be time we all had “a reality check” about what drives our business and where our focus needs to truly be.Trust me when I tell you: “push play.”…CHAPTERS:Who Says Elephants Can’t Dance?Is your vision and your strategy getting in the way of your tactics and your execution?The fundamentals of executionCreating your own “SMaC recipe”…Other Episodes You’ll Love:9 Is Yours an “Execution Business”?60 Top "10-12" Mistakes People Make Building a Group Practice?! (#1)62 Top "10-12" Mistakes People Make Building a Group Practice?! (#2)…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] a Call to Discuss the Executive ProgramLove this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
The Most Overlooked, Easiest Tool in Leading for Results
2026/08/20
Everyone loves to talk about “scaling your group dental practice” and “growth strategy” for your practice. Sometimes the most obvious answer is right in front of your face, but most of us fail to question things that are obvious.I have the same 12 months and 365 days in my year that you do in yours, but from a leadership standpoint, my year looks nothing like yours. I simply chose a different starting date.If you’re looking for a more effective way to drive results through a fresher, more focused team, then “push play!”…CHAPTERS:Cyclicality: Calendar Years versus Performance YearsA specific example of a pedo-ortho groupFreshness and focusA few key leadership points to shift your mindsetThe lesson I learned from Patterson’s proof of success…Other Episodes You’ll Love:10 Mistakes people make immediately on their growth journey30 The Choice We Make & the Freedom We Have…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] a Call to Discuss the Executive ProgramLove this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
The 4 Questions that Help Leaders Drive Results
2026/08/13
Why do so many successful dentists struggle to become even marginally effective CEOs? To be effective in a leadership role means you have to be able to create greater results through the work of your team, so is it “the team” that’s limiting your progress? Or are you just not being clear in communicating your expectations?If you’re frustrated by a series of underwhelming results, then “push play.”…CHAPTERS:The Leadership Principle of “Variables and Variance”My personal lesson in learning that principle“What does success look like to you?”“What are the key steps in the process or sequence that are most important?”“What are some of the obstacles you think you’ll encounter along the way?”“What other resources do you need now or think you might need along the way?”…Other Episodes You’ll Love:13 Leadership - “Why does it feel like I’m doing it wrong?”31 Leadership during times of uncertainty…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] a Call to Discuss the Executive ProgramLove this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Considering selling your business to a DSO? Download the “Top 10 Questions” Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
You’re Ready to be a Leader – Even Though You Don’t Realize It Yet
2026/08/06
Many early-stage executives wonder whether they’re truly ready to be a leader. We talk about this “transition from Clinician to CEO” as if it were easy. It isn’t. And your mastery of clinical services no longer applies to the other 80% of the business. So how do you actually lead a group practice when you don’t know how to perform the work all of those other roles require? I had to overcome that same mindset and figure out how to create results when I couldn’t perform the craft. I’ll tell you what I did and what you should be focused on. If you’re having your own doubts, then “push play.”
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CHAPTERS:
Managing versus Leading
What I learned in Richmond – the hard way
Two Truths about Leadership
The critical mindset shift
5 areas to focus on that lead to KPI outcomes
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Other Episodes You’ll Love:
Predicting Your Outcomes through Lead Measures
Leading from the Front
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Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected]
Love this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!
Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading.
...
Thinking about selling your business to a PE-backed DSO? I have 10 Questions you should ask first. Download the Guide HERE.
...
Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com
© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
How to Build a Performance-Driven, Culture-First Group Practice: Dr. Paul Lund & Misty Wales
2026/07/30
The late Peter Drucker has a timeless quote that you and I have probably referenced 1,000 times: “Culture eats strategy for breakfast.”I’ve had enough unique experiences over 25 years to validate the truth in that statement.It does, however, beg the question: “Is it possible to build a business with a strong culture that also produces successful financial results?”You’re about to hear the answer……CHAPTERS:5:00 A humble, humorous origin story14:00 What Orthodontist in their right mind starts a pedo practice – and lives to tell the story?!24:00 The dynamic around an evolving, homegrown leadership team30:45 This isn’t for the faint of heart45:00 Visionary, Integrator...and Entrepreneur52:00 Fulfillment is the ultimate measure of results…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Thinking about selling your business to a PE-backed DSO? I have 10 Questions you should ask first. Download the Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
My Rescue Plan for Your Mid-Career Crisis
2026/07/23
Everyone talks about evolving from a clinician to a CEO. And nobody starts a business expecting to fail. However, every single one of us hits a point when our vision collides with reality then we discover the road to success has no pavement and no directional signs.I’ve suffered the same crisis of confidence that many of you have and all of the rest will at some point.This episode is a soul-searching exploratory talk about what that mid-career crisis really feels like. More importantly, it’s my attempt to give you a lift out of your depths of despair. It’s 100% vulnerable and 1000% authentic. Push play.…CHAPTERS:Some days, you just want to call it quitsNo one ever told you what isolation really feels like as a leaderMy depths of despair and a decision to walk away from what wasn’t importantWhere you should start your recovery right nowThis isn’t the beginning of the end for you, but rather the end of your new beginning…Other Episodes You’ll Love:S1 E21 Taking stock of where you are and what you wantS1 E30 The Choice We Make & the Freedom We Have…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Thinking about selling your business to a PE-backed DSO? I have 10 Questions you should ask first. Download the Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
Fundamental Mistakes to Avoid in Recruiting
2026/07/16
To create a successful partnership means you must have the right Associate, but to have the right Associate means you have to recruit the right candidate. So…do you?I learned the hard way what failure looks like in terms of recruiting, and I fear you’re all making the same mistakes I did.If you’ve got doubts about your current Associate or you’re about to start a recruiting process for a new one, this episode is for you! Push play.…CHAPTERS:The “lessons I learned” in my early leadership career, so you don’t have toHow to actually build a strong cultureDon’t believe me? Ask Warren and Jack…Putting first things firstYou’re recruiting the wrong person…Other Episodes You’ll Love:S1 E33 The Missing Piece of Clinical MentorshipS1 E59 Six Points of Partnership Alignment…Got Questions? Send them to me here: [email protected] this show? Leave a review or share it with your friends!Want more advice on running a better business? See what I’m writing and what I’m reading....Thinking about selling your business to a PE-backed DSO? I have 10 Questions you should ask first. Download the Guide HERE....Follow me for more insights: LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | TheNextLevelExecutive.com© 2025–2026 by Perrin DesPortes. All Rights Reserved.
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Pinehurst Dentist 2026/09/24
A must listen for every dental business owner, large or small.
The Next Level Executive Podcast has become required listening for me — whether you're still practicing clinically or you've fully transitioned to the...
CMUSD 2026/08/14
More than theory
Perrin brings not just logical, thoughtful and real information based on experience and research, he gives actionable guidance and direction that all ...
kjkdmd 2026/08/07
For Leaders in Dentistry
Perrin’s career and life experience give his words validity, as the stories he shares about his own life as an entrepreneur are relatable to dentists ...
Dental Dan 2026/07/29
Thought leader
Perrin has a way with words and is able to distill something really complicated down into a digestible, easy-to-follow way. I always feel like he's on...
Skassmel 2026/07/28
Thought provoking you’ll hear nowhere else
I love this podcast! Perrin brings to light a lot of topics that people don’t always feel comfortable talking about, but need to hear! I learn so much...
LDP CO 2026/07/25
Perrin is at the top of the game in Dentistry
Week after week Perrin nails subject after subject providing an open and honest review of topics relative to every dentists from new grads to senior ...
NCWalls 2026/07/17
Perrin Brings It
Not surprisingly Perrin continues to drop truth bombs and valuable insights about our industry and what leaders must do to grow and remain effective b...
PowellRJ 2026/07/16
What the doctor ordered!
I started listening to Perrin when the dentist/owner that I work for joined his Next Level Executive program. At first, I was listening in an effort t...
AppRater2012 2026/07/09
A must listen in Dentistry
Perrin DesPortes’ Next Level Executive podcast is one of the most valuable leadership resources available for healthcare entrepreneurs and practice ow...
ChrisMu75 2026/07/09
Essential for dental practice owners
I’ve followed a lot of people in the dental business space, and Perrin is the one who’s had the biggest impact on how I think about my practice. He he...
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