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Welcome back to part two of our 100th episode with That Sleep Doc, Dr Sujay Kansagra. He's a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University and the inventor of the Lullabee smart crib mattress. This half is where Bec finally gets to ask about a real bugbear of hers, low sleep needs, and Sally asks Sujay to diagnose her. We get into what actually decides how much sleep our babies need, why six hours of naps won't give you a twelve hour night, whether overtiredness is really a thing and how Sujay copes with the trolls in his comment section. Then it's a very slow fast five, the Lullabee versus the Snoo and the biscuit question we promised you. Missed part one? Listen here: https://www.naptrappedpodcast.com/p/ep-100-what-is-sleep-training-that-sleep-doc Subscribe and catch every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com WHAT YOU'LL LEARN - Why genetics set our sleep needs and how rare truly low sleep needs are - Why a low sleep needs label doesn't mean you can't improve sleep - How stacking too much day sleep can look like low sleep needs - What the science does and doesn't say about overtiredness - Why toddlers get wired, not sleepy, when they're short on sleep - Sujay's take on Wonder Weeks, swaddling, melatonin gummies and sleep consultants - How the Lullabee weans itself out and why it's the polar opposite of the Snoo CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome back, Nap Trappers 00:20 Bec's bugbear: low sleep needs 11:16 Is overtiredness real? 21:06 Trolls and the comment section 28:57 A very slow fast five 36:18 We're a good team ABOUT NAP TRAPPED We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Nap Trapped is our baby sleep podcast for tired, time-poor parents who want evidence-based answers in plain language, with realistic expectations and no empty promises. ABOUT DR SUJAY KANSAGRA Sujay is a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University, aka That Sleep Doc, and the inventor of the Lullabee smart crib mattress. LINKS Sally (The Sleep Concierge) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec (The Sleep Centre) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Part one: https://www.naptrappedpodcast.com/p/ep-100-what-is-sleep-training-that-sleep-doc Dr Sujay Kansagra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/ Dr Sujay Kansagra on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsleepdoc Dr Sujay Kansagra website: https://linktr.ee/thatsleepdoc Dr Sujay Kansagra on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsleepdoc

We made it to 100 episodes and we couldn't think of a better way to celebrate. Sally's heart was beating the whole time 'cause she's that much of a fangirl. Our guest is the one and only Dr Sujay Kansagra, known to so many of you as That Sleep Doc. He's a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University, where he directs the child neurology sleep medicine program. Sally DM'd him on the seventh of December 2024, before Nap Trapped even existed. It was left on unread. A hundred episodes later, here we are. In part one we rip the band aid and ask what sleep training actually is, whether sleep associations are real and how you tell a sleep association from a baby seeking connection. Sujay walks us through the learned helplessness research, attachment, night feeds and breastfeeding, parent guilt and why a well rested parent is a safer driver. He also tells us why he invented what he calls the most expensive crib mattress in the world and still says sleep training is safe and effective. Then we get into the hard bit: the crying. How Sujay coaches families through it, the two methods he reaches for and why even he found sleep training his own kids hard. Sally shares the early rising that finally shifted once she sent her husband to the gym. Bec's famous line gets a run too. Hold steady. If you've been fear mongered out of getting help, this one's for you. Subscribe to Nap Trapped wherever you listen and find every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn: - Why there's no formal definition of sleep training and how Sujay defines it - How sleep cycles and normal night wakings bring sleep associations into play - How to tell if a sleep association is actually a problem for your household - What the 1960s learned helplessness experiments do and don't tell us about sleep trained babies - What the research says about sleep training and attachment - Why night feeds and breastfeeding can sit alongside sleep training - The two types of crying and how Sujay matches a method to a family's tolerance - Why having someone in your corner through the execution makes such a difference Chapters: 00:00 Happy 100th, Dr. Sujay 05:01 So, What Is Sleep Training? 19:31 Busting the Sleep Training Myths 37:26 Coaching Families Through Crying 45:45 Part Two Next Week ABOUT: We're Sally Woods from The Sleep Concierge and Bec Maher from The Sleep Centre. Nap Trapped is our evidence-based baby sleep podcast for tired parents who want real answers without the fear mongering. Dr Sujay Kansagra is a child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University and the creator of Lullabee. You'll find him on social media as That Sleep Doc. Links: Sally, The Sleep Concierge: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec, The Sleep Centre: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Dr Sujay Kansagra, That Sleep Doc: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/ That Sleep Doc on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatsleepdoc That Sleep Doc on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thatsleepdoc All of That Sleep Doc's links: https://linktr.ee/thatsleepdoc Camp Snooze intakes: joinsnooze.com Nap Trapped: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

We're back in the Sleep Detectives hot seat answering your real baby sleep questions — bottles, naps, toddler boundaries, split nights, daycare schedules and a very important Fiji trip. Subscribe and never miss an episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn: - When to drop the morning and before-lunch bottles (the exact ages) - How to protect your toddler's sleep when a new baby arrives — and what NOT to change - The transitional schedule explained: why it doesn't have to look textbook - Early rising vs. actually early rising — and why we almost never make a nap drop off an early rise - Split nights: what they actually are (and what's just a resettle going nowhere) - How to audit a 1am wake with a sleep trained 13 month old - The pilot analogy from Dr Becky that reframes holding a boundary with a toddler - Why six months is prime time for sleep shaping - Daycare schedules with fixed bottle and nap times — how to make it work - Fiji with a five month old: do you stay on Sydney time or just get on Fiji time? Chapters: 00:00 – Welcome to Sleep Detectives 00:33 – Dropping bottles: before-lunch and morning bottle ages 02:00 – Protecting toddler sleep when a new baby arrives 06:40 – 12 month old on transitional schedule: one and a half hour afternoon nap 11:22 – 18 month old on one nap: should I wake at two if she'll sleep till three? 12:31 – 14 month old: early waking and 20 minutes to self-settle — time for one nap? 17:18 – 1am wake with a sleep trained 13 month old — split night or resettle? 25:50 – Dr Becky's pilot analogy and holding boundaries with toddlers 31:07 – Six month old: when to start waking from naps to get on a schedule 34:20 – Eight month old in daycare five days a week: adapting nap and feeding advice 39:45 – Five month old trip to Fiji: Sydney time or Fiji time? 41:02 – Wrap up ABOUT NAP TRAPPED: Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two sleep consultants, two mothers, one podcast dedicated to evidence-based baby and toddler sleep support in plain language. No empty promises, no guilt, just real answers for tired parents. Links: Instagram Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Instagram Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Website: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Is the two-nap schedule wrecking your nine-month-old's sleep — or was something already brewing before you made the drop? This week we work through a real DM case study: a nine-month-old who moved to two naps and promptly hit the fan with short naps, false starts, lengthy middle-of-the-night wake windows and reactive co-sleeping creeping earlier and earlier. We unpack why the nap drop is rarely the villain, what the clues in this mum's own message tell us about what was already in the mix, and exactly what we'd do first — including why we'd put the third nap back in (yes, really) and why early rising needs to be sorted before any nap transition happens. We also share a Google review that genuinely made Sally tear up on mic, and Bec drops a quick winter temperature check that could explain a lot of what's creeping back into your nights right now. Subscribe and find all our resources at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn Why the 3-to-2 nap drop is rarely the root cause — and what usually isThe one thing that must be sorted before any nap transitionWhy cot-side settling and early-morning co-sleeping have a shelf lifeHow the eight-month sleep progression creates a perfect stormWhy we'd bring the third nap back in strategically and what that looks likeThe room temperature check Bec wants every southern hemisphere family to do right nowHow Camp Snooze would approach this exact scenario in two weeksChapters 00:10 Welcome back and a Google review that made Sally cry06:18 What is Camp Snooze?07:27 The case study DM: nine-month-old, two naps, everything hits the fan09:15 Was the nap drop really the problem?11:23 What was already brewing before the drop13:32 Our fix: bring the third nap back and here's why14:20 Strengthening self-settling skills at this age15:50 The co-sleeping shelf life conversation17:46 How Camp Snooze would handle this over two weeks20:25 Bec's winter temperature tidbit for early risers22:02 What to do if you're still on three naps and have sleep issues22:55 Wrap upAbout Nap TrappedNap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two Australian sleep consultants keeping it real for tired parents everywhere. Evidence-based, warm and zero fluff. Links Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/Everything else: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Sally and Bec tackle four real listener cases: third nap chaos, space feeding, early rising and the Early Rising Protocol for almost-12-month-olds.

Which parent should be the one doing the settling at bedtime? Can you tag team? What happens if you tap out mid-session? Sally and Bec get into all of it — and their answer might surprise you. Subscribe to the Nap Trapped newsletter for weekly sleep support: www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn Why Bec's default is mum first — and exactly when she flips thatWhat happens when dad takes over and it's going well... then mum comes back inThe breastfeeding-to-sleep trap: why the boobs returning changes everythingWhy one parent per resettling session is the non-negotiable ruleThe extinction burst on nights three and four — and why you don't want to swap parents right thenWhat to do if you're a solo parent, a FIFO parent, or your appendix rupturesHow Sally runs bedtime in her own house (alternating nights, electric blanket by 7.02 pm)Why both parents need to be able to settle, even if one is easier right now Chapters 00:00 Intro & celebrating Bec's three-peat family05:38 Which parent should do the sleep training?06:18 Why Bec prefers mum for the first three to four nights07:38 The breastfeeding-to-sleep association problem09:07 When dad should take the lead instead10:19 Path of least resistance — and what that actually means13:59 Don't rescue the other parent mid-session15:31 Can you tag team? One parent per resettling session explained17:18 When dad says "I think they want you" — Bec's take19:02 What if your appendix ruptures? Future-proofing both parents21:43 Sally's alternating bednight system at home23:09 The extinction burst and why consistency is everything on nights three and four25:20 Solo parents, FIFO families and the village mentality26:03 Wrap up About Nap TrappedNap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two sleep consultants, two mums, and zero patience for vague advice. Every Wednesday they bring you evidence-based, real-talk sleep support for tired parents. LinksInstagram — Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/Instagram — Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/Website: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Subscribe and never miss an episode: www.naptrappedpodcast.com Sleepy Ds are back. This week Sally and Bec put on their detective hats for four real listener questions — and as always, they love a side quest. From a 14-month-old waking every two hours in a co-sleeping setup where mum feels like she's tried everything, to 8-month-old twins early rising on three naps, a 12-month-old with habitual 10 PM and 2 AM feeds, and an 18-month-old screaming the house down at bedtime — this episode covers the full spectrum of what families are actually living right now. Sally and Bec break down why "I've tried everything" often means behavioural sleep training hasn't been tried properly or consistently, why the 14-month age group is one of the most common they see, and why zooming out is the single biggest gift a sleep consultant brings. Bec shares a real case study of a two-and-a-half-year-old whose cot was removed six months ago — and what happened when they brought it back. Sally walks through a 2-year-5-month-old who had been a great sleeper at 8–9 months and then fell apart 17 days ago. For the twins question, they dig into corrected age, calorie distribution, dream feeds for twins specifically, and why early rising is almost never the right trigger for a nap drop. For the night weaning question, they unpack the difference between extinction and modified Ferber, dummy replug strategy, anchored feed times, and how to teach a 12-month-old to find their own dummy. For the 18-month regression, Sally explains the rule of threes, why checks can make things worse and what to do instead, and how filling an autonomy cup during the day gives you the backbone to hold a boundary at bedtime. What You'll Learn: - Why "tried everything" usually means one key thing hasn't been tried — or hasn't been done consistently enough - How the 2-to-1 nap transition makes 12–15 months one of the trickiest ages Sally and Bec see - Why early rising almost never signals it's time to drop a nap - The difference between extinction and modified Ferber — and which fits a dummy-using 12-month-old - How to anchor overnight feeds and organically nudge them out - Why check-ins can escalate an 18-month-old and what to do instead - The rule of threes for toddler habits - How micro-choices during the day support bedtime boundary-holding Chapters: 00:00 – Welcome back, Sleepy Ds 00:37 – Side quests, adenoids and Dirty Dancing 02:42 – Question 1: 14-month-old, waking every 2 hours, co-sleeping, tried everything 06:17 – Why "tried everything" often misses the full picture 11:08 – Bec's real case: bringing the cot back for a 2.5-year-old 15:14 – Why having a coach changes everything 19:05 – Question 2: 8-month-old twins, 3 naps, early rising at 5–6 AM 24:31 – Why we don't drop a nap to fix early rising 27:14 – Lining everything up so there's just one thing to do 30:11 – Question 3: 12-month-old, 10 PM and 2 AM feeds, night weaning plan 34:06 – Extinction vs modified Ferber, dummy strategy, anchored feeds 38:00 – How long will night weaning take? The honest answer 39:42 – Question 4: 18-month-old screaming at bedtime, checks make it worse 41:19 – The 18-month regression, autonomy cups and micro-choices 44:18 – When to reduce check-in input and lengthen intervals 46:16 – The rule of threes and when to hit reset 47:41 – Wrap up and sleep crimes ahead ABOUT NAP TRAPPED: Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two Australian sleep consultants who work with real families every single week. Evidence-based, warm, and refreshingly honest about how hard this actually is. Links: Sally – https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec – https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Podcast – www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Sally and Bec step away from baby sleep talk to share the five things they genuinely believe are worth the money — from kitchen appliances to travel. No affiliate codes, no sponsors (yet), just honest opinions from two tired, busy mums who have tried a lot of things. Subscribe and join the village at www.naptrappedpodcast.com --- WHAT YOU'LL LEARN - Why Bec swears by her Thermomix (secondhand or otherwise) - The Ninja coffee machine that replaced Sally's daily takeaway habit - Microblading, travel prams and the Robovac debate - Why a cleaner or housekeeper is not a luxury — it's a sanity saver - The case for great champagne, Ben and Jerry's Tonight Dough and gym membership - Why booking the trip — any trip — is always worth it --- CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction and episode premise 02:06 Bec's #1: The Thermomix 05:34 Sally's #1: The Ninja Coffee Machine 09:53 Bec's #2: Microblading 11:36 Sally's #2: Baby Zen Yo-Yo travel pram 14:49 Bec's #3: The Robovac 15:46 Sally's #3: A cleaner or housekeeper 21:43 Bec's #4: Great champagne 23:16 Sally's #4: Ben and Jerry's Tonight Dough 25:51 Bec's #5: Gym membership 29:38 Sally's #5: Book the trip 33:23 Wrap-up and listener question --- ABOUT NAP TRAPPED Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two experienced baby sleep consultants, mothers and friends who tell it like it is. Evidence-based, warm and occasionally very funny. --- LINKS Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Podcast: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Sally and Bec are back in the hot seat answering your real-life baby sleep questions live and unscripted. From managing jet lag with an eleven-month-old to knowing when to drop a night feed, trimming nap one, tackling twins in a shared room and transitioning away from patting to sleep — this episode covers a lot of ground in plain language with the science behind every answer. Subscribe and get more at www.naptrappedpodcast.com --- WHAT YOU'LL LEARN • How to handle a two-hour time zone difference with a baby without pre-adjusting at home • Why creature comforts and a mini bedtime routine matter on arrival night • When an 11.30 PM and 3 AM waking pattern at six months is habitual versus hunger • How to confidently drop a ritualized night feed and anchor in a single overnight feed • When to start trimming nap one for a nine-month-old on the OG two-nap schedule • Why a short-long nap structure protects the second half of the day and reduces early rising • How to transition from patting to sleep toward independent self-settling • Twins at eight months sharing a room — the case for letting them coexist early • What time nap one should be when your eleven-month-old wakes at six instead of six-thirty • Whether staying in the room while baby self-settles causes problems down the track --- CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro — millions of great sleepers not on our schedule 00:25 Welcome to Sleep Detectives 01:19 Q1: Preparing an eleven-month-old for a two-hour time zone difference 07:08 Camp Snooze ad 07:40 Q2: When to resettle versus feed — six-month-old waking at 11.30 PM and 3 AM 12:39 Q3: When to trim nap one — nine-month-old on OG schedule 17:01 Why there is always a why behind schedule changes 21:03 Q4: Transitioning from patting to sleep to self-settling 26:43 Q5: Twins at eight months sharing a room 31:34 Q6: Nap one timing when eleven-month-old wakes at six AM 35:03 Soapbox — overtiredness is real 37:47 Q7: Does staying in the room while baby self-settles cause problems later 44:42 Wrap-up and where to find help --- ABOUT NAP TRAPPED Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre). Between them they bring twenty years of hands-on baby and toddler sleep experience. Every episode is evidence-based, judgment-free and built for tired, time-poor parents who want real answers. --- LINKS Sally — https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec — https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Camp Snooze — joinsnooze.com More episodes — www.naptrappedpodcast.com

What if you didn't need a big sleep training plan to see real results? In this Snooze Masterclass, Sally and Bec break down a real-life message from a family member whose 11-week-old is now sleeping 11 hours overnight — after just a handful of small, low-pressure changes. No crying it out. No dramatic overhaul. Just the right foundations, applied consistently. Subscribe to the Nap Trapped podcast and access all masterclasses inside the Snooze membership at www.naptrappedpodcast.com WHAT YOU'LL LEARN• Why a hard 7am wake time is the single most powerful anchor for your baby's day• How swaddling for every nap works as a sleep association — and why the Miracle Blanket is a game-changer• The difference between a baby who is awake and a baby who is just noisy overnight• Why over-responding at night can accidentally create the very wake-ups you're trying to avoid• How these small changes protect you heading into the four-month sleep regression• Why it's okay — and sometimes better — to pop baby down and see what happens CHAPTERS00:10 Welcome to the Masterclass01:09 Why sleep doesn't have to be all or nothing01:48 The text message that started it all — 11 hours overnight at 11 weeks03:30 Change 1: Hard wake at 7am and why it anchors everything06:07 How a set wake time protects bedtime and builds circadian rhythm07:05 Change 2: Swaddling for every nap — sleep associations and the Miracle Blanket09:00 Change 3: Putting baby down in the bassinet for naps10:59 Bec's experience — starting from day one with the cot13:32 Temperament, contact naps and giving yourself permission to try14:44 A flow chart idea for newborn settling decisions16:35 Change 4: Letting baby flap around overnight instead of rushing in17:10 Why first-time parents don't know what normal baby sleep sounds like18:50 One of two things will happen — and both are okay19:58 Why white noise is more for parents than babies20:46 How over-responding overnight can snowball post four-month regression22:50 Small changes add up — celebrating the wins24:55 Working holistically: foundations first, techniques second ABOUT NAP TRAPPEDNap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two Australian paediatric sleep consultants who keep it real about baby sleep. Evidence-based, warm and refreshingly honest. LINKSInstagram — Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/Instagram — Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/Snooze Membership + all episodes: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Sleep Detectives is back! Sally and Bec answer your real baby sleep questions — false starts, night weaning, nap caps, dummy habits and more. Subscribe and get better sleep support at www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn: - Why false starts happen and how to fix them fast - The truth about moving nap times — rip the bandaid or go slow? - Step-by-step overnight weaning for a six month old - When to ditch wake windows for a clock-based schedule - Why capping nap one at 13 months saves your nights - Dummy use at three months — habit or helpful tool? - When to push the lunch nap later at 20 months Chapters: 00:10 – Welcome back: Sleep Detectives returns 00:29 – Fan mail: a real win from a listener 05:08 – Q1: False starts in a seven month old 07:41 – Q2: 13 month old — how to bring nap two forward 10:44 – Q3: Six month old, two night feeds, how to wean 16:11 – Q4: When to switch from wake windows to clock-based schedule 20:04 – Q5: 13 month old, long morning nap, second nap hit and miss 22:23 – Off topic: most fun parenting stage 25:52 – Q6: 22 month old sleep schedule 26:38 – Q7: Is a dummy for resettling a bad habit at three months? 28:04 – Q8: When to push the lunch nap later at 20 months 29:54 – Wrap up ABOUT NAP TRAPPED: Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two experienced baby sleep consultants who cut through the noise with evidence-based, realistic sleep support for tired Australian parents. Links: Instagram – Sally: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Instagram – Bec: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Website: www.naptrappedpodcast.com

Toddlers are relentless. They target your heartstrings, they push every boundary, and they will absolutely ask for a third bottle of milk at 2 AM just to see what happens. In this episode Sally and Bec break down the three most common toddler sleep mistakes they see every single day — and exactly how to course-correct without losing your mind. What You'll Learn: - Why milk feeds creep back in overnight and how reverse cycling happens with toddlers (not just babies) - How to handle constant bedtime requests and delay tactics without feeding the cycle - Why parent-led associations like couch sleep and cuddle-to-sleep come back after sickness or travel — and how to reset - The bedtime pass strategy for school-aged kids with busy brains - Why toddler tantrums are a developmental milestone, not a parenting failure - How to hold a boundary at 2 AM when your willpower is firmly in your slippers Chapters: 00:10 – Welcome and comment of the week 01:33 – Mistake 1: Milk feeds creeping back in overnight 05:03 – The reverse cycling trap and how it snowballs 10:40 – How to wean overnight milk with a clear plan 15:29 – Mistake 2: Constant requests to get out of bed 17:23 – Visual checklists and the bedtime pass strategy 23:44 – Why toddler tantrums are actually a milestone 31:32 – Mistake 3: Parent-led associations returning (cuddles, couch sleep) 33:44 – Not being in a rush to make sleep happen quickly 37:32 – Post-sickness and post-travel sleep resets 39:18 – The audit: environment, sleep pressure, settling technique ABOUT NAP TRAPPED: Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two experienced sleep consultants who work with families around the world. They bring evidence-based guidance, warm realism and zero judgment to every episode. Subscribe and never miss an episode: www.naptrappedpodcast.com Links: Sally – https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec – https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/

Got burning baby sleep questions? Sally and Bec are back in the Sleep Detectives hot seat answering real questions from real parents across Spotify, Instagram DMs and the Snooze membership community. From the dreaded failed evening cat nap to split nights, early rising twins and the OG nine-month schedule — this episode covers the messy, nuanced, real-life stuff that keeps parents up at night (literally). Subscribe to Nap Trapped and never miss an episode: www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn: • What to do when the fourth nap fails for a four-month-old • The OG nine-month schedule with solids, milk feeds and naps laid out clearly • How cow's milk protein allergy and self-weaning can affect overnight sleep • Why the delay, delay, delay technique requires you to overreach to 7 a.m. • How to handle early rising twins sharing a room • Why the second nap is always the trickiest — and how to rescue it • The difference between a true split night and an overtired overnight waking • Why nap training takes longer when you use a staggered approach (and why that is okay) Chapters: 00:06 — Welcome back and the Snooze live Sleep Detectives recap 02:41 — Q1: Four-month-old failed evening cat nap (Alyssa, Spotify) 09:24 — Q2: OG nine-month schedule with solids and short long naps 13:14 — Q3: Nine-month-old nearly done breastfeeding, CMPA and early rising 19:25 — Q4: 18-month-old twins and early rising — delay, delay, delay 27:29 — Q5: Nine-and-a-half-month-old short second nap on the OG schedule 36:57 — Q6: 17-month-old split nights and 4 a.m. wakeups 42:29 — Wrap up ABOUT: Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two Australian sleep consultants who work with families every single day. They bring evidence-based advice, zero judgment and a healthy dose of realism to every episode. Links: Sally on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Snooze membership: www.joinsnooze.com

Is your baby waking at 3 or 4am for no obvious reason? The answer might be sitting in their wardrobe. In this episode Sally and Bec break down exactly how to dress your baby for winter sleep — tog ratings, layering, Merino wool bags, room temperature, and why your monitor reading might be lying to you. Subscribe and never miss an episode: www.naptrappedpodcast.com What You'll Learn: • Why autopilot dressing habits can cause cold-related wake-ups • The tog rating guide — when to use 2.5 vs 3.5 vs Merino wool • How to layer underneath a sleeping bag for different room temperatures • Why room temperature readings can mislead you (and how to fix that) • When to add heating vs when to let the bag do the work • Why cold hands and a cold nose don't tell the whole story • The two Merino wool sleeping bag brands Sally and Bec genuinely recommend Chapters: 00:00 Intro — bed making, king pillows and the sweaty bat 08:15 Why families slip into autopilot with baby dressing in winter 09:42 The fear of overheating and why we're almost always adding layers 10:41 Singlets, onesies and the base layer explained 11:09 Why Merino wool sleeping bags are worth the investment 12:20 Woolbabe and Woolino — the brands they recommend 15:08 Room temperature: what range to aim for 16:46 Why thermostat readings can't always be trusted 18:40 Where to place your thermometer and what cold extremities really mean 19:36 Layering guide by temperature with a 2.5 Tog bag 20:32 When to move to a 3.5 Tog or Merino bag 21:27 Taking the chill off vs overheating — finding the balance 27:19 How Sally and Bec investigate temperature as part of sleep work 28:52 Wrap-up ABOUT NAP TRAPPED: Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two experienced baby sleep consultants who cut through the noise with evidence-based, practical advice for tired parents. Links: Camp Snooze: https://joinsnooze.com Sally on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/

Ever wondered why we put nap two at one o'clock — and whether you can nudge it to three hours after nap one? Sally and Bec crack open five real listener questions in this Sleep Detectives episode, covering nap timing logic, the childcare nap struggle, on-the-go naps at events, and exactly what to dress your baby in for a 20-degree room with a 3.5 tog bag. Subscribe and find every episode at www.naptrappedpodcast.com --- WHAT YOU'LL LEARN • Why the 2.5-hour wake window before nap two exists (and when three hours is fine) • The melatonin production window trick that makes the two-to-one nap transition smoother • Why nine-month-olds often fight the second nap — and what to do about it • How to handle childcare naps that max out at 20–30 minutes • The milk run power snooze and early-to-bed rescue plan for rough childcare days • How to manage a lunchtime event when your five-month-old needs a midday nap • Why a solid schedule actually makes babies more adaptable away from home • Singlet, onesie, sleeping bag: the layering logic for a 20-degree room • When a 2.5 tog vs 3.5 tog bag matters — and when to reach for merino wool --- CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome to Sleep Detectives 00:05 Grand Poobah chaos and Disney trauma 04:37 Q1: Can nap two be 3 hours after nap one for a 12-month-old? 09:17 Why the one-to-three nap window sets up the nap drop transition 12:14 Q2: Second nap struggles for a nine-month-old 15:37 Q3: 10-month-old doing 20–30 min naps at childcare 19:40 The milk run power snooze explained 24:03 Q4: Lunchtime event clashing with a five-month-old's nap 27:20 Camp Snooze baby who slept everywhere in one day 30:28 Q5: What to dress baby in for a 20-degree room and 3.5 tog bag 35:43 When one extra layer changes your whole night 36:40 Wrap-up --- ABOUT NAP TRAPPED Nap Trapped is hosted by Sally Woods (The Sleep Concierge) and Bec Maher (The Sleep Centre) — two Australian sleep consultants who bring evidence-based, realistic sleep support to tired parents every week. Sleep Detectives episodes answer real listener questions, no holds barred. --- LINKS Sally — The Sleep Concierge: https://www.instagram.com/thesleepconcierge/ Bec — The Sleep Centre: https://www.instagram.com/_thesleepcentre/ Podcast hub: www.naptrappedpodcast.com