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Brooklyn’s story starts with her questioning her own mental health, then the visions begin, her children start seeing things, and everything gets darker. Eventually, she’s forced to confront something she never thought she’d believe: that maybe some things really can’t be explained. And yes, it gets to the point where she calls in the literal Ghostbusters. Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

I am talking to Ella, who spent eight years of her life bedbound with ME (Myalgic Encephalomyelitis). Now bedbound sounds drastic, but when you hear her story, it is brutal. She was essentially locked in her own body, paralyzed without being able to speak or move a muscle. It is crazy. Deeply horrific, but also inspirational. The fact that she is talking to us with the insight and the wisdom she has learnt through this horrific experience is mind blowing. One of the most important conversations I've ever had on the Deep. Instagram: ellaengel__ Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

I wasn't sure where this conversation was going when Georgia and I sat down. On paper, it's a conversation about sex work. Sugar dating. Trauma. Sexuality. But the longer we spoke, the more I realised this wasn't really about any of those things. It's about what happens when life hands you experiences that could harden you, shame you, or completely break you—and somehow, you find your way back to yourself anyway. Georgia's story is messy. It's confronting. There were moments that made me uncomfortable, moments that made me sad, and moments that completely challenged what I thought I knew. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgiatulett Website: https://georgiatulett.com Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Evie and Axel are partners in life, love, and sex work. In this conversation, we talk about jealousy, intimacy, non-monogamy, trust, and what it takes to build a relationship completely outside the rules most of us were taught to follow. It’s raw, confronting, surprisingly tender, and a powerful reminder that there is no one right way to love. Websites: https://www.evieplusaxel.com.au/ https://www.evieelysian.com.au/ https://www.axelmeridius.com.au/ Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Today's conversation is one of the most heartbreaking and beautiful we've ever had on this show. When Penelope was fourteen years old, her mother died by suicide. But this episode isn't just about loss. It's about the impossible weight a child carries when they believe it's their job to keep someone alive, the guilt that follows, the questions that never fully leave, and the journey of finding meaning after unimaginable grief. What moved me most about this conversation is the compassion Penelope has for her mother. Through all the pain, she found understanding. This is a conversation about love, loss, survival, and what happens after the unthinkable. Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Psychic medium and witch Lilith joins me for a conversation that challenges everything we've been taught about religion, spirituality, free will, and feminine power. We explore the stories of Lucifer and Lilith through a different lens, unpack why questioning can be sacred, and dive into Lilith's journey through addiction, abuse, sex work, recovery, and reclaiming her intuition. This isn't about convincing you what to believe, it's about having the courage to ask your own questions. If you've ever felt torn between faith, curiosity, and the search for truth, this episode is for you. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theveiledoccult/ Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

In part one, she shared spells we could use in real time and walked us through what it actually means to live as a witch. In this episode, she takes us into the parts of the craft most people are too afraid to ask about. We talk red magic, blood magic, and the three points of will, shadow, and surrender that sit underneath advanced practice. Till explains why sacrifice and self-responsibility are at the core of real magic, the truth behind menstrual blood in spellwork, the O Method, glamour magic and its risks, and how she actually responds when someone comes to her wanting to hex the person who hurt them. We also get into forgiveness, karmic reckoning, and where the line sits between protecting and educating your children. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tilthewitch/ Website: https://portal.tilthewitch.com/the-arcana-2026 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/tilthewitch Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Till is a witch, a real life witch. And I have been looking for witches for a really long time. She's not what you think. She's 35, long dark hair, got a great sense of humor. She's also a single mum. And what I found so fascinating about Till specifically is how generous she is with her knowledge. She shares with us spells, real life, real-time spells that we can use today. And she takes us through what being a witch really means. We went into all the types of magic, rituals, and what it's like to live in a society when even your ancestors have been outcast. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tilthewitch/ Website: https://portal.tilthewitch.com/the-arcana-2026 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/tilthewitch Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Content warning: This episode contains explicit discussions of sexual violence, trafficking, domestic abuse, and drug-facilitated assault. Please take care of yourself. If this episode brought something up for you: Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 She's back. And this is the last one. Three episodes. I don't think we've ever done that for anyone. But Charlie has had a choke hold on all of us, her words, not mine, and I wasn't done. Part One was where it started. The childhood, the shame, the man she didn't know would traffic her. Part Two was what was done to her and the morning she packed her bag and walked out. This is Part Three. The second trafficking. The husband she wasn't supposed to fall in love with. What actually happens in a session. Her body now. Her mum. And the four-year-old she comes home to every single day after doing the most extraordinary, confronting, magical work in the world. This is who Charlie is. All of it. At the same time. I am so grateful she trusted us with it. Charlie's website: https://www.themidnightmethod.com IG: @handsonwizard Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Content warning: This episode contains explicit discussions of sexual violence, trafficking, domestic abuse, and drug-facilitated assault. Please take care of yourself. If this episode brought something up for you: Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Part One ended mid-story. Deliberately. This is where it continues. Charlie's body and her autonomy were stripped from her by another person and they gave her up. She was fifteen. She didn't see money change hands. She didn't know there was a word for it until long after it was over. Part Two goes where Part One couldn't. The knife. The hospital under a fake name at fifteen. The miscarriage beaten out of her. The womb infection left untreated that changed her body forever. A doctor sitting with her head in her hands who told Charlie she can quote ten studies on erectile dysfunction and not one on the long-term effects of sexual abuse on women. New Zealand. Going back to him anyway. The gym. The shadow boxer in the mirror. Twenty men who looked away. And the moment Charlie grabbed his hands, put them back around her throat and said: just do it. I'm so tired. Kill me. And then who Charlie has always been. A queer little girl who knew exactly who she was at five years old. Who stayed that way through every single thing that was done to her. They couldn't touch it. Not one of them. Charlie's website: https://www.themidnightmethod.com IG: @handsonwizard Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Content warning: This episode contains explicit discussions of sexual violence, trafficking, domestic abuse, and drug-facilitated assault. Please take care of yourself. If this episode brought something up for you: Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Last time we got into the work: the sex work, the advocacy, what she does and why. This time I wanted to know who she actually is. Where it came from. How you end up here. So I opened with: were you harmed as a child? What follows is her answer. A working class English kid with a Chinese immigrant mum, both sides religious, sex treated like something dirty and shameful, and a little girl who was already kinky at five and queer at seven and had absolutely no idea what to do with any of that. The honeymoon period with the man who would go on to traffic her. The first time she had sex, at fourteen, and the three and a half months of pain she was told was normal. The love bombing. The jealousy that became violence. The group rape she thought was a game. This episode ends mid-story. Deliberately. Charlie's website: https://www.themidnightmethod.com IG: @handsonwizard Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Mitch Greer is a TikTok and Instagram personality, a woman, and technically trans, though she'll tell you herself she doesn't quite fit the mould of what that word has come to mean. She's been passing her whole life. Not just physically. From age five, Mitch was already living as the girl she knew herself to be. No performance. No transition story that fits neatly into the expected narrative. Just a woman who always knew. This conversation is a completely different lens on what it means to be trans. It challenges assumptions, including mine, about identity, community, belonging, and what happens when your experience doesn't match the story people expect you to tell. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mitch.greer/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mitch.greer Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Trigger warning: Adult themes and sex work Hudson opens up about intimacy with older clients. What surprises us wasn’t just the desire, but the trust and vulnerability that came with it. We talk real connection beyond age, and what it taught him about pleasure, consent, and showing up honestly. Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

So today, I’m talking with Kate Kennedy about the world of sugaring—the money, the sex, the boundaries, and everything in between. We get into what it’s really like to navigate these relationships, when emotional connections start to form, and how you protect yourself while doing this work. Kate gets honest about health, safety, social media, and managing money, and we dig into how sex work can actually teach you about power, independence, and personal growth. No fluff, no judgment, just the real conversation about living this life and owning it. Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.

Trigger warning: Adult themes, sex work, polyamory, sexual abuse, trauma Charlie opens up about sex work, polyamory, heartbreak, trauma, and motherhood, revealing what it means to be powerful and soft at the same time. She shares the reality of living fully and unapologetically, refusing to shrink, be saved, or close off any part of who she is. Credits: Viel Yochingco - Producer Caleb Jacobs - Music Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner Please DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @ariise___ and @whatsthedeeper or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep. The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy. The Deep acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.