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Get ready to transcend rabbit holes and alchemize knowledge! Diving deep into an array of topics from Ancient Origins to the coming Ascension, hosts Brandy, Annelise, and Parker explore all things metaphysical, paranormal, intergalactic, and much more!
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Episode 47: Halloween Bonus Episode
2026/10/29
Halloween Beyond the Scares
Field Notes on spooky stories, the labels we inherit, and remembering the people we love.
Brandy, Annelise, and Parker close the season with witch hats, favorite horror movies, and a Halloween conversation that moves from spooky entertainment into more personal territory. Alongside stories of curses and haunted objects, they ask what our labels reveal, how we use our words, and why remembering the dead can be an act of love.
In This EpisodeThe hosts’ favorite Halloween movies open a conversation about why different stories frighten or comfort us.The discussion of witches asks how labels shape our judgments, and whether a new identity can become another box.Curses and haunted objects lead the hosts into questions about belief, intention, and personal boundaries.The conversation closes with Coco, family stories, and the importance of remembering loved ones.
Chapters00:09 — A Halloween bonus and season farewell02:02 — Favorite spooky movies13:02 — Witches and the labels we inherit29:52 — Curses, words, and intentions44:25 — Haunted objects and secondhand finds1:06:09 — Halloween and the thin veil1:09:57 — Coco and remembering loved ones1:15:35 — Closing the season
Mentioned in This EpisodeWatch the full episode on YouTube — The version used for the chapter times above.Rabbit Hole on Spotify — Intro and outro music by Annelise Bess.
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Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
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Episode 46: Transcending Church with Brandy Anderson
2026/10/20
When Faith Becomes More Than a Belief System
Field Notes on inherited beliefs, direct spiritual experience, and the questions that remain when familiar answers no longer fit.
What happens when the beliefs we inherited no longer explain what we are experiencing?
In This EpisodeQuestioning inherited doctrine can open a deeper conversation about faith and belonging.Belief and direct spiritual experience are different starting points for exploring the sacred.Moving beyond a religious system raises another question: are we opening ourselves to discovery, or simply adopting a new set of certainties?
Chapters01:36 — What Transcending Church explores05:35 — Genesis, consciousness, and integration10:24 — Moving beyond the system into the sacred13:26 — The alchemy of forgiveness
Mentioned in This EpisodeTranscending Church by Brandy Anderson — Following Christ Out of the System and Into the Sacred.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 45: DNA Activation, ET Contact, & Sovereignty with Marston Fries
2026/10/06
After the Extraordinary: Marston Fries on Integration and Inner Authority
Marston Fries shares her account of awakening and ET contact, then gets specific about pacing, embodiment, and the work of living what she experienced.
What happens after an experience changes your understanding of reality? Marston Fries joins Brandy, Annelise, and Parker to explore that question from the inside. Her story moves through bereavement, leaving a career in investment management, and experiences she describes as psychic awakening, DNA or kundalini activation, and extraterrestrial contact. The conversation gives those experiences room while continually returning to the harder question: how do you carry them into an ordinary human life?
In This EpisodeMarston connects her departure from investment management with grief and experiences she interprets as spiritual awakening.She distinguishes the intensity of an experience from the slower work of integrating it into daily life.Pacing, somatic therapy, rest, and attention to bodily sensations are practices she says have helped her.The discussion frames sovereignty as personal responsibility, discernment, and the ability to hold boundaries without forcing others to agree.
Chapters01:53 — Marston’s story: career, grief, and awakening06:21 — The experience she calls DNA activation and ET contact17:02 — Pacing and the work of integration49:23 — Sharing an unfinished story
Mentioned in This EpisodeThe Bridging Catalyst — Marston Fries — Marston’s official website, mentioned near the episode close.Trust Fall — Marston Fries — Marston’s book on her experiences and spiritual exploration.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 44: Does God Exist?
2026/09/22
What Do We Mean When We Say God?
Brandy, Annelise, and Parker explore divine presence, prayer, and whether the way we live matters more than getting every belief right.
Before asking whether God exists, Brandy, Annelise, and Parker pause over another question: what are we calling God? A distant ruler, a loving presence, consciousness, source, the ground of being? Each answer changes the conversation before the debate has even begun. This episode follows that shift from inherited images toward the hosts’ evolving, deeply personal understanding of the divine.
In This EpisodeThe hosts begin by defining God, recognizing that disagreement may concern different images of the divine.Annelise describes the emotional work of moving beyond a personified God while recovering a sense of intimacy.The prayer discussion includes both personal meaning and the difficulty of suffering that does not resolve as hoped.Brandy asks whether compassion, humility, and integrity matter more than intellectual agreement with a theology.The closing discussion treats uncertainty and the limits of language as part of spiritual inquiry.
Chapters00:20 — Defining God before debating existence15:03 — Can God be personal without being a person?29:15 — Does God answer prayer?60:19 — Does correct belief matter more than how we live?
Mentioned in This EpisodeThe Fish Who Found the Sea — Alan Watts — Annelise’s closing book recommendation; illustrated by Khoa Le.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
Recommended Books
The Fish Who Found the Sea by Alan Watts: amzn.to/4xqVnBQ
The Universe Inside You by Sarah Ordonez: amzn.to/3USc6AA
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Episode 43: High Strangeness with Ronald Meyer & Mark Reeder
2026/09/08
High Strangeness with Ronald Meyer & Mark Reeder
Ronald Meyer and Mark Reeder explore Bradshaw Ranch, Bigfoot reports, and the role of shared attention in extraordinary experiences.
What happens when a filmmaker follows an unexplained encounter—and a skeptical collaborator starts having experiences of his own? Ronald Meyer and Mark Reeder join the conversation to explore Bigfoot reports, Bradshaw Ranch, and their evolving ideas about consciousness. Their stories move between field investigation and personal meaning, asking what an encounter can change even when its cause remains unsettled.
In This EpisodeMeyer’s filmmaking led him from witness interviews to investigating possible links between Bigfoot and UAP reports.The guests use an ancient-presence hypothesis to interpret encounters; they do not establish the cause of the reported phenomena.Meyer discusses equipment artifacts and false positives alongside his interpretation of Bradshaw Ranch footage.Reeder describes the personal effect of a CE6 gathering as renewed awe and attention to everyday life.
Chapters01:53 — How filmmaking led Ron to Bigfoot reports22:29 — Investigating Bradshaw Ranch41:12 — The origins of the CE6 protocol55:52 — Collective consciousness: contact or creation?
Mentioned in This EpisodeFull episode on YouTube — Watch the full conversation.
Ron Meyer & Mark Reeder Books
Aliens 2035
The High Strangeness of Bigfoot
The High Strangeness of Bradshaw Ranch
Jesus Had a Near-Death Experience
Tricksters and Angels: A Novel
The Adam Enigma: A Novel
Movies Produced by Ronald Meyer
The Bigfoot Alien Connection Revealed - (28) The Bigfoot Alien Connection Revealed - Full Movie - YouTube -- over 7 million views across multiple streaming platforms
Paranormal Highway - on Amazon prime ((28) Paranormal Highway Trailer - YouTube
Amazon.com: Paranormal Highway : Alan Megargle, Ronald C. Meyer, Thom Powell, Eira Wulfnothsson, Ronald C. Meyer, Ronald C. Meyer, Alan Megargle: Prime Video
Alien Contact in the Rockies- a film by Alan Megargle and, Ronald Meyer, Alien Contact In The Rockies | Creatures Traveling Through Portals Caught On Camera!
The Mysteries of Bradshaw Ranch- The Mysteries of Bradshaw Ranch: Aliens, Portals, and the Paranormal
The Afterlife- The Afterlife: Our Departed Loved Ones Are Close | Prime Video
Near Death Experiences and Mysticism- Near Death Experiences and Mysticism
The Mysteries of Bigfoot- The Mysteries of Bigfoot
An Alien, a Channeler, a Mystic, in Conversation- An Alien, a Channeler, a Mystic, in Conversation
Medical Doctor has Near Death Experience- Medical Doctor has Near Death Experience.. Encounters UFOs and Bigfoot
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 42: Jesus and Lao Tzu with Gregory T. Smith
2026/08/25
Jesus, Lao Tzu, and a Less Fearful Faith with Gregory T. Smith
Gregory T. Smith explores wu wei, compassionate boundaries, and what Christians might learn by listening to Lao Tzu.
Can another spiritual tradition help us hear familiar teachings with fresh ears? Gregory T. Smith joins the hosts to discuss Jesus and Lao Tzu: The Way of Love, his Christian companion to the Tao Te Ching. Drawing on his years in pastoral ministry and a fascination with Daoism that began in ninth-grade world history, Greg approaches the two traditions as conversation partners with meaningful differences as well as striking resonances.
In This EpisodeGreg designed his book for slow devotional reading, offering Christians an entry into the Tao Te Ching.He explains wu wei as effortless action and explicitly distinguishes allowing from accepting abuse.Greg sees resonance between Jesus and Lao Tzu while identifying differences in their treatment of violence.His story of friendship at an esoteric bookshop makes curiosity across faith traditions a lived practice.Greg’s reading of yin and yang challenges quick moral labels and invites attention to consequences.
Chapters04:14 — Greg’s path to Jesus and Lao Tzu17:29 — Wu wei and effortless action25:28 — Allowing, boundaries, and nonviolence38:06 — Friendship across faith traditions
Mentioned in This EpisodeFull episode on YouTube — Watch the full conversation.Jesus and Lao Tzu: The Way of Love — Gregory T. Smith — Greg’s book exploring the teachings of Jesus and Lao Tzu.Breathing Space — Gregory T. Smith — Greg’s writing on faith and spirituality.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 41: The Language of the Universe: Vibration and Sacred Geometry
2026/08/11
When Sound Becomes Shape: Vibration, Geometry, and the Search for Order
The hosts follow patterns in sound, nature, music, and the psyche into a conversation about sacred geometry and wholeness.
What connects a pattern in sand, a musical interval, and a recurring image in a dream? Brandy Anderson, Annelise Bess, and Parker Bess approach that question through vibration and sacred geometry, asking whether the universe has an underlying language. Their conversation moves between physical examples, personal associations, and a spiritual conviction that reality expresses an organizing intelligence.
In This EpisodeCymatics gives the hosts a visible starting point for discussing how vibration and form relate.Brandy connects authenticity to making unconscious patterns conscious through shadow work and individuation.Annelise uses musical intervals and harmony to describe a more intuitive relationship with mathematics.The hosts interpret recurring natural and psychological patterns as signs of wholeness; that spiritual interpretation is distinct from scientific proof.
Chapters05:00 — Is the universe built from vibration?28:03 — Authenticity, shadow work, and wholeness33:48 — Is mathematics invented or discovered?54:44 — The mathematics of music
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 40: Archetypal Astrology with Johnny Barnett
2026/07/28
A Birth Chart as a Mirror: Johnny Barnett on Archetypes and Choice
Johnny Barnett explores astrology as a symbolic framework for self-understanding, with room for uncertainty, context, and personal meaning.
Astrologer Johnny Barnett returns to explore a birth chart as a symbolic map of inner life. With Brandy Anderson, Annelise Bess, and Parker Bess, he discusses an approach rooted in archetypes and self-realization. Signs and planets become a vocabulary for different ways of experiencing life, rather than a single personality label that explains everything about a person.
In This EpisodeBarnett presents archetypal astrology as a framework for self-realization and a language for multiple aspects of personality.The conversation examines a real tension between a mapped life, conditioned responses, and freedom to choose.Barnett uses Saturn as a symbol for maturity, discipline, and the substance developed through responsibility.He distinguishes describing the conditions ahead from assigning someone the meaning of an experience.His relationship story and critique of memes emphasize the limits of labels and the importance of context.
Chapters01:10 — Archetypes and self-realization08:51 — What is a natal chart?13:13 — Destiny and freedom40:05 — Solar and Venus return charts
Mentioned in This EpisodeJohnny Barnett — Chakraology — Guest website, named in the closing conversation; astrology and chakra material.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 39: The Nature of Evil
2026/07/14
Evil, Ordinary Choices, and the Work of Awareness
A searching conversation about suffering, divine love, unconscious behavior, and the responsibility hidden inside everyday choices.
If God is good, why does suffering remain possible? Brandy Anderson, Annelise Bess, and Parker Bess begin with that difficult question and make clear that they are exploring it rather than claiming to solve it. Their conversation ranges across theology, spiritual cosmology, psychology, and the ordinary choices through which people participate in harm or care.
In This EpisodeAnnelise describes evil as a forgetting of love, while Brandy emphasizes unconsciousness and division.The discussion tests theological explanations against lived grief rather than treating suffering as an abstract puzzle alone.Ordinary compliance and conformity become central examples of how people can participate in harmful systems.Shadow work and attention to projection are presented as practices for examining personal responsibility.The hosts express hope in love and wholeness while leaving the underlying philosophical problem open.
Chapters01:40 — Evil as forgetting love17:05 — A good God and the existence of suffering40:05 — Ordinary compliance and the banality of evil46:28 — Awareness, projection, and shadow work
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 38: The Bible and the Tarot with Gil Stafford
2026/06/30
Tarot as a Mirror: Gil Stafford on Symbols, Grief, and Reconstruction
Gil Stafford brings the Bible and tarot into conversation through archetypes, dream work, and a daily practice of asking better questions.
Gil Stafford’s first encounter with tarot came through a roommate while he was playing minor league baseball. It returned to his life years later and eventually became part of his daily spiritual practice. Joining Brandy, Annelise, and Parker, he describes a path through Christian ministry into a way of reading symbols that connects biblical stories with the images in a tarot deck.
In This EpisodeGil uses tarot images as prompts for reflection on everyday life, relationships, and dreams.His face-up card practice lets him consciously select images that represent people and qualities he wants to consider.He interprets the Death and Devil cards through grief and integration of difficult parts of the self.Gil describes tarot as one spiritual tool among several, rather than a complete source of answers.
Chapters3:03 — Gil’s path from baseball and Christianity to tarot9:29 — Archetypes, everyday reflection, and dream work31:25 — Death, the Devil, grief, and integration49:27 — Gil’s daily tarot and sacred-text practice
Mentioned in This EpisodeThe Bible and the Tarot — Gil W. Stafford — Publisher information for The Bible and the Tarot: A Personal Pilgrimage of Discovery.Full episode on YouTube — Chapter times follow this full YouTube video.
The Bible and the Tarot BOOK
amzn.to/4w4BDDR
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 37: The Wisdom of the Tao Te Ching
2026/06/16
Beyond the Grind: Presence and the Wisdom of the Tao
Brandy, Annelise, and Parker explore non-forcing through work, grief, creativity, and the space to live beyond constant striving.
The Tao Te Ching becomes a surprisingly personal conversation about productivity, grief, and the pressure to become somebody. Brandy, Annelise, and Parker explore its language of the way, bringing their Christian backgrounds and their own experiences into a discussion of what it means to act without continually forcing an outcome.
In This EpisodeThe hosts discuss wu wei as non-forcing and responsive action rather than passivity.Brandy connects overthinking with her experience of grief and the difficulty of staying with painful feelings.Annelise describes surrender through reassessing her music career and exploring a different creative direction.The conversation draws personal parallels between Taoist teachings and the teachings of Jesus.The closing readings explore emptiness through the useful space within wheels, pots, and rooms.
Chapters6:55 — Wu wei and the invitation to non-forcing27:15 — Knowledge, analysis, and direct experience36:52 — Brandy on grief and the limits of thinking43:53 — Annelise reconsiders her music career
Mentioned in This EpisodeThe Tao of Christ: A Christian Version of the Tao Te Ching — Marshall Davis — Marshall Davis’s book, recommended in the episode’s show notes.Full episode on YouTube — Chapter times follow this full YouTube video.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
Recommendations, Mentions, and Shoutouts
The Tao of Christ: A Christian Version of the Tao Te Ching by Marshall Davis - amzn.to/3Q6498Q
Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life by Wayne Dyer - amzn.to/4oixZna
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Episode 36: Disclosure: Apocalypse or Awakening?
2026/06/02
Disclosure, Faith, and the Search for Inner Authority
Brandy, Annelise, and Parker explore how extraordinary possibilities challenge inherited beliefs, and where fear, discernment, and agency meet.
What would the existence of non-human intelligence mean for faith? Brandy, Annelise, and Parker begin with that question, then move into a much wider discussion of consciousness, religious authority, and the stories people use to understand their place in the universe. The conversation is animated by their spiritual convictions and speculation about extraterrestrial life, while also revealing differences in how they understand human agency.
In This EpisodeBrandy questions fear-driven interpretations and distinguishes her interest in disclosure from having seen conclusive evidence.The hosts explore ancient astronaut theories as part of their spiritual interpretations of humanity’s origins.Annelise and Brandy disagree about external captivity, agency, and what liberation would require.Annelise connects her changing view of apocalypse with relief from childhood end-times fears.The closing discussion emphasizes discernment, personal responsibility, and taking breaks from media.
Chapters1:48 — Brandy on evidence, fear, and interpretation11:59 — Ancient astronaut theories and human origins27:58 — Different views of captivity and agency54:56 — Annelise on childhood end-times fear
Mentioned in This EpisodeFull episode on YouTube — Chapter times follow this full YouTube video.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
Read the full Field Notes →
Episode 35: Gnosis & the Journey Inward
2026/05/19
Gnosis and the Courage to Look Within
Brandy, Annelise, and Parker explore direct experience, religious authority, and the discernment needed to trust an inner guide.
What is the difference between knowing about something and knowing it from the inside? Brandy Anderson, Annelise Bess, and Parker Bess explore gnosis through that distinction, moving from intimate relationships and the taste of a lemon to their own accounts of spiritual awakening. The conversation asks why direct experience can unsettle a belief system—and what responsibility comes with trusting it.
In This EpisodeThe hosts distinguish information about something from intimate, direct experience.Brandy considers how religious structure can offer comfort while limiting personal authority.Trusting inner guidance raises questions about fear, conditioning, projection, and maturity.The group emphasizes that leaving an external system does not automatically undo internal conditioning.Integration is described as making room for difficult emotions, rather than remaining happy all the time.
Chapters0:48 — Knowing about something versus direct experience22:13 — Why inner knowing challenges structures27:56 — Discernment, maturity, and trusting yourself45:48 — Inner conditioning and the work of integration
Mentioned in This EpisodeListen on Podbean — Listen to the original podcast episode.Full episode on YouTube — Chapter times follow this full YouTube video.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Episode 34: Exploring A Course in Miracles
2026/05/05
A Course in Miracles: Reflecting on Forgiveness and Inner Peace
Personal encounters with the Course open a discussion of perception, forgiveness, and the work of feeling rather than bypassing pain.
Annelise Bess first put A Course in Miracles away because she could read the words without understanding what they meant. When she returned to it months later, she describes an experience of remembering rather than learning something entirely new. Brandy Anderson tells a similar story of circling the text through other writers and a study group before finding a way into it. Parker Bess connects his own engagement with learning to recognize the ego’s role in daily life.
In This EpisodeAnnelise and Brandy both describe putting the Course aside before finding a way to engage it.The hosts favor short passages and repeated daily engagement over racing through the text.They understand miracles and forgiveness through shifts in perception and the stories attached to events.Brandy cautions that intellectual reframing cannot replace feeling and integrating pain.The group brings forgiveness into everyday moments of being triggered, pausing, and returning to awareness.
Chapters1:22 — How Annelise first encountered the Course9:46 — Origins and core ideas of the Course22:52 — Pain, perception, and spiritual bypassing46:00 — Practicing forgiveness when triggered
Mentioned in This EpisodeListen on Podbean — Listen to the original podcast episode.About A Course in Miracles — Foundation for Inner Peace — The publisher’s introduction to the Course and its approach to study.Full episode on YouTube — Chapter times follow this full YouTube video.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
Read the full Field Notes →
Episode 33: Entanglement: The Illusion of Separation
2026/04/21
Entanglement, Connection, and the Questions Between Them
From social feeds to a secondhand dresser, the hosts explore spiritual interconnectedness and the choices we make with our attention.
A conversation that begins with particles soon arrives at phones, thrifted furniture, and the people we invite into our lives. Brandy Anderson, Annelise Bess, and Parker Bess use entanglement as a way to explore their belief in interconnected consciousness and the everyday significance of attention. Their interest is personal and spiritual: what do we keep participating in, sometimes without noticing?
In This EpisodeThe hosts extend entanglement into a spiritual framework for attention, relationships, objects, and places.All three discuss the personal effects of social media and the value of more intentional engagement.Their account of unusual sounds around a secondhand dresser is a paranormal interpretation, not an established quantum explanation.Brandy emphasizes discernment without withdrawing from the world in fear.Quantum entanglement research does not establish the episode’s wider spiritual or mind-over-matter claims.
Chapters0:41 — Entanglement and the hosts’ spiritual framework12:15 — Objects, ownership, and energetic interpretations36:05 — Social media, attention, and depletion44:46 — Discernment without fear
Mentioned in This EpisodeListen on Podbean — Listen to the original podcast episode.Quantum entanglement — Nobel Prize scientific background — Scientific background on the experiments recognized by the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics.Full episode on YouTube — Chapter times follow this full YouTube video.
Music Credits
Intro/Outro Music by Annelise Bess
Rabbit Hole on Spotify
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Grape guzzler 2026/09/10
Addicted!!
Thank you for what yall are doing here! It’s been an addiction of mine. Thank goodness I have people in my life who “get me” and I can share your show...
SarahJean17 2025/10/12
Love This Podcast
I feel so at home listening to this podcast. It’s refreshing to have voices that are talking about the things I think about.
CMM865 2025/08/07
Let the unlearning begin!
We have much to unlearn and re-learn about our spiritual world. Thankful for this trio helping the rest of us find and understand Biden truth.
Connie Wyatt 2025/06/22
Outstanding
As someone who began waking up to the false narrative that was handed to me, this podcast was just what I was searching for. Every single episode is p...
Hopesjoke 2025/04/30
Great podcast!
I love this podcast! I am eagerly waiting for it every Tuesday!
StvBenit 2025/04/19
Thank You
This is amazing, I am so happy and so grateful you guys have started this podcast. This truth resonates so deeply. Please please keep this podcast goi...
kpn789 2025/03/17
Great Job!
I love the way you approach these topics without fear. Keep it up! People need to know!!
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