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The Graveyard Shift

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★★★★★
4.6
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19 reviews
This podcast has
42 episodes
Language
English
Publisher
Passare
Explicit
No
Date created
2025/02/25
Latest episode
2026/10/15
Average duration
43 min.
Release period
15 days

Description

Funeral professionals are constantly searching for two things – new ideas to better serve families and a good laugh. Join Todd Carlson, EVP of Sales and Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group, on a wild ride as he engages in genuine and off-the-cuff conversations with 3 accomplished funeral professionals – Matt Bailey, President and Funeral Director at Bailey Family Funeral Homes, Gary Freytag, President and CEO of Spring Grove Cemetery and Arboretum, and Jimmy Lucas, Owner and Funeral Director at Lucas Funeral Home. Together, they share their takes and valuable insights into the evolving profession with plenty of laughs along the way.

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Shift #42: Carpet crumbs, regulations, and Caressa Hughes
2026/10/15
When did serving food in a funeral home become an issue? And what do Taylor Swift concert tickets have to do with the FTC discussion around “junk fees”? In this episode, Caressa Hughes joins the guys to talk about the evolving regulatory landscape in deathcare. With decades of experience tracking legislation across 45 states, Caressa dives into the issues directly impacting funeral professionals, from dual licensing and staffing bottlenecks to food and beverage restrictions. Watch the full episode for an eye-opening breakdown of where the profession has been, what’s changing right now, and where things could be headed. About Caressa Hughes Caressa Hughes serves as Assistant Vice President for Government and Industry Relations for SCI, where she leads the company’s local, state, and federal government relations strategy and oversees industry relations through active engagement with professional trade associations. She is deeply involved in industry leadership and currently serves on the Board of Directors for ICCFA and CANA, where she was also a former President. Additionally, she contributes to the Government and Legal Affairs Committees for both ICCFA and CANA. Caressa holds a bachelor’s degree from the University of Texas at Austin and resides in Houston, Texas. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut  Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio  Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas  Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #41: Rituals, reclamation, and Dr. Alan Wolfelt
2026/10/01
Families’ perceptions of funerals are changing, and not always in ways that make a funeral professional’s job easier. In this episode, Dr. Alan Wolfelt joins the guys to discuss how funerals are losing their meaning in today's culture and calls for funeral professionals to reclaim their role as educators, not order-takers. They explore why families might struggle to see the value of a ceremony and how funeral professionals can practice “supportive confrontation” by empathetically challenging assumptions while still honoring each family’s choices. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on helping today’s families navigate loss with knowledge, compassion, and confidence. About Dr. Alan Wolfelt Alan D. Wolfelt, Ph.D., is recognized as one of North America’s leading death educators and grief counselors. His books on grief for both caregivers and grieving people, including Funeral Home Customer Service A-Z, have sold more than 1 million copies worldwide and been translated into many languages. He is the founder and director of the Center for Loss and Life Transition, as well as a longtime funeral service consultant. Learn more at CenterForLoss.com. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #40: Wine cellars, scuba tanks, and ideal funerals
2026/09/17
Ever wonder what funeral professionals actually want for their own final send-off? In this episode, the guys break down their own final wishes. They go through everything from Winston Churchill-inspired songs and open wine cellars to motorcycle hearses and scuba tanks. Tune in for a hilariously candid and unexpectedly thoughtful conversation that will get you thinking about how your own funeral can truly reflect who you are. Side note: Gary’s epitaph alone is worth the listen. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut  Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio  Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas  Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #39: Professionalism, personality, and public image
2026/09/03
How much of yourself should you bring to the job? In this episode of The Graveyard Shift, the guys continue their conversation about authenticity, trust, and public image as a funeral professional. They explore how to navigate professional expectations, maintain healthy boundaries, and avoid burnout in a profession that’s “always on.” Tune in for top-tier advice and an honest conversation about showing up as your full self, quirks and all. See what the guys have been up to: Jimmy just released TeamTangoAI, a tool that answers calls, helps website visitors, and offers family support. See more about this feature here: https://teamtangoai.com/ Matt is planning for his next celebrant training in New Haven, Connecticut. Get more details here: https://bailey.courses/celebrant-training Gary recently finished teaching a few courses at ICCFA University. Learn more about this program here: https://iccfa.com/university/ About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #38: Viral videos and Victor M. Sweeney
2026/08/20
How does a small-town mortician from middle-of-nowhere Minnesota end up with 50 million YouTube views without even trying?! In this episode, Victor M. Sweeney joins to talk about accidental fame, turning down reality TV, and why "just doing something real" beats trying to “go viral” every time. The guys dig into crafting an authentic public image, the trap of being an order-taker, and what it really means to show up for families, even when it's inconvenient. Fair warning: Victor's take on inconvenience will stick with you long after the episode ends. About Victor M. Sweeney Victor M. Sweeney is an undertaker in a small town in Northwest Minnesota. While he goes about every aspect of the funeral business as it touches the lives of the families he serves, his wife and four children patiently await his return and shake their heads when duty calls him away again. He represents the profession worldwide, authoring a book, “Now Departing,” and amassing some 50M views on YouTube. He doesn’t have free time, but he likes to read when he’s able. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #37: Real leadership, raw advice, and Robbie Pape
2026/07/23
Ever wonder why some leaders command a room and others just…don't? Robbie Pape joins the guys to talk about the power of choice, showing up with confidence, and why the best leaders own their mistakes. Robbie also shares lessons from her colonel and fighter-pilot dad, and the crew digs into what the funeral profession needs more of from its leaders right now. Tune in for honest conversations, a few emotional moments, and maybe a reason to start making your bed every morning. About Robbie Pape: Robbie Pape serves as Vice President of Operations at Carriage Services. With 30 years of experience spanning funeral and cemetery operations, finance, sales, systems, process improvement, and audit, Robbie brings a rare full-picture perspective to help Carriage continue to grow and succeed. She's a Certified Public Accountant (CPA), a past ICCFA President, current treasurer on the CANA Board of Directors, and holds a degree in Marketing and Information Systems from Baylor University. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #36: Disconnects, data, and discoveries
2026/07/09
Time to get a little nerdy. Todd pulls up some eye-opening stats from our New Funeral Consumer study, and the guys don’t hold back their opinions. This episode breaks down the 5 biggest disconnects between funeral homes and the families they serve. Fair warning: A few of these might hit close to home. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #35: Flat squirrels, preneed, and Bill McReavy, Jr.
2026/06/25
Bill McReavy, Jr. joins the podcast to talk about going from zero preneed sales to a program that’s thriving. Spoiler: marketing had a lot to do with it. In this episode, the guys dive into how preneed serves families when they need it most and tackle the big question: Is the ROI really worth it? Tune in for insights and a few ideas you might want to steal for your own preneed program. About Bill McReavy, Jr.: Bill McReavy, Jr., CEO of Washburn-McReavy Funeral Chapels, Cemeteries, and Cremation Services, is part of the fourth generation of his family to join the business. Bill has helped guide Washburn-McReavy as it has grown and modernized, expanding to more locations across the Twin Cities while staying focused on caring for families in a personal, compassionate way. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #34: Moms, money, and Minnesota
2026/06/11
The Graveyard Shift goes live in Minnesota! And yes, there's an audience. 😆 The guys dig into the kind of funeral home scenarios you can’t exactly Google your way out of. Expect hard-earned lessons, unforgettable stories, and a look at what keeps them going in a profession that’s challenging but rewarding. Plus, a brand new segment called “Are you smarter than Jimmy?” is reason enough to tune in. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #33: Man on the moon, robots, and funerals
2026/06/03
Put on your tin foil hat - the crew has bold takes on what’s next in funeral service. From robots in prep rooms and shifts in business models to changing regulations and the rise of new technology like holograms, the guys cover it all. Some of it’s far out. Some of it is already happening. Either way, the future is coming fast. Tune in for a fun, thought-provoking conversation and a few ideas on how to harness what’s next in funeral service. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #32: Hamburgers, blog writing, and Tom Anderson
2026/05/14
What happens when one of the most trusted voices in funeral service joins the crew? Tom Anderson shares his journey in the profession and the inspiration behind starting a daily publication. The guys cover everything from economic realities and permanent memorialization options to changing family expectations. Expect a few hard truths, some hot takes, and plenty of reasons to be excited about where funeral service is headed next. About Tom Anderson: Tom Anderson is the CEO and Editor of Funeral Director Daily, a widely read news source dedicated to straightforward reporting on the funeral care profession. Drawing on more than 35 years as a successful funeral director, Tom provides clear, practical insights into the business of death care. Read more at https://funeraldirectordaily.com/. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #31: Flying cars, website ideas, and Curtis Funk
2026/04/30
What actually drives website performance? And can AI really help you improve efficiency at work and at home? Curtis Funk, CEO of Tukios and funeral home website guru, joins the newest episode of the podcast to answer all of these questions. Plus, the guys share how they experiment with AI in their own operations and make a few bold predictions about the future of technology in funeral service. Flying cars? Maybe closer than you think (or at least, self-driving cars). About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #30: Change, crutches, and comfort zones
2026/04/16
Change is constant, so why is it so difficult? The guys cover everything under the sun when it comes to change management. They share real insights on leading teams through major shifts, navigating pushback, getting staff buy-in, and keeping the right mindset along the way. Plus, they reveal the advice they'd give their younger selves when it comes to handling change. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #29: Do-overs, donuts, and dress codes
2026/04/02
Everyone has that one thing they'd do over. This episode is pure “hindsight is 20/20” as the guys share what they’d change about funeral service if they could wave a magic wand. What if the profession had embraced technology sooner? Could work-life balance have existed earlier? Are polos and khakis ever acceptable at the arrangement conference? Tune in for honest thoughts, a few ideas to keep the profession moving forward, and maybe a little venting. 😆 About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].
Shift #28: Inspiration, Hollywood, and John O’Leary
2026/03/19
Inspirational speaker and best-selling author John O’Leary joins the podcast to talk about something we don’t say nearly enough in this profession: make time for yourself. With humor and heart, John shares how micro‑moments of rest, intentional pauses, and even some well-intentioned “selfishness” can help you be more effective and present with the families who need you. John’s message to funeral professionals is just as powerful as his own personal story. This is one episode you don’t want to miss. About John O’Leary: John is a two-time best-selling author of On Fire and In Awe, host of the award-winning Live Inspired Podcast, and subject of Soul On Fire, a full-length feature film about his life and story of survival. Learn more about John here: https://johnolearyinspires.com. About the podcast: The Graveyard Shift is a podcast by Passare and features: Todd Carlson, Chief Sales Officer at Directors Investment Group Matt Bailey from Bailey Family Funeral Homes in Connecticut Gary Freytag from Spring Grove in Ohio Jimmy Lucas from Lucas Funerals and Cremations in Texas Have feedback? Share it with us at [email protected].

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4.6 out of 5
19 reviews
★★★★★
Edg 1965 2026/08/20
Show with Victor
Another excellent show! Great to hear Victor on today!
★★★★★
l142 2025/11/05
Overdue
Insightful
★★★★★
jennmathTX 2025/03/13
Informative and funny
This podcast is informative about the funeral profession with a dash of humor.
★★★★★
make psyched great again 2025/03/12
The perfect mix!
Finally—a podcast about funeral service that doesn’t feel like another seminar. The Graveyard Shift is the perfect mix of humor, real talk, and behind...
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