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Who taught you what it means to be healthy... & why should you believe them? Modern medicine, nutrition science, and alternative healthcare often disagree about what makes us healthy. But beneath those disagreements lie deeper assumptions about evidence, authority, the human body, and what constitutes a good life. In Episode 84 of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Michael Christian & John pull back the curtain on the philosophical and theological beliefs shaping our understanding of health. Building on the Sacred Diets Arc, they explore the religious roots of modern nutrition movements, the difference between science and scientism, & why supposedly objective health recommendations often depend on judgments that science itself cannot settle. Along the way, they tackle cholesterol & cardiovascular risk, the Blue Zones, functional medicine, the obsession with biomarkers, & the increasingly religious character of health optimization. Finally, they turn to Orthodox Christian anthropology to ask a question that changes the entire conversation: What is health actually for? Because caring for the body matters. But when the pursuit of health becomes the organizing principle of our lives, we may have lost sight of the very thing health was supposed to serve. Topics include: nutrition science, medical epistemology, scientism, functional medicine, cholesterol, metabolic health, Orthodox fasting, stewardship, suffering, & human flourishing. Chapters: 00:00 Trust the Science? 00:45 Orthodox Health Intro 02:17 The Hidden Beliefs Behind Modern Healthcare 08:53 Why Nutrition Debates Become Ideological 18:07 Kellogg, Adventists & Religious Health Reform 23:43 Epistemology: How Do We Know What's True? 26:08 Science vs. Scientism 35:03 Disease Management & Medical Authority 42:42 When Measurements Become Definitions 48:12 Cholesterol, Red Meat & Cardiovascular Risk 56:16 Blue Zones & Longevity Narratives 1:01:35 The Hidden Assumptions of Alternative Health 1:08:12 Orthodox Anthropology & Dietary Dogmatism 1:14:30 Telos: What Is Health Actually For? 1:22:49 Putting Orthodox Anthropology into Practice ⁠Logos Cinema⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram⁠⁠

When does something that offers relief begin to own you? In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Mike & John sit down with Fr. Michael Marcantoni to explore alcoholism, addiction recovery, the passions, & the Orthodox Christian understanding of sobriety. Drawing on his personal journey through alcoholism & recovery, Fr. Michael connects the Twelve Steps with the ancient Orthodox practices of nepsis (watchfulness), repentance, asceticism, & the discernment of thoughts. We explore why relapse can begin with resentment long before someone reaches for a drink, why hitting rock bottom looks different for everyone, & how someone can be chemically sober while remaining enslaved to anger, bitterness, or other compulsions. The conversation also moves beyond substance addiction into the more respectable things that can quietly master us: work, food, exercise, our phones, & even the pursuit of health. Along the way, we discuss Orthodox fasting, yoga, spiritual freedom, & the work of St. Anastasia Orthodox Recovery Fellowship. Fr. Michael closes with a challenge rooted in rigorous honesty: Are your habits making your life unmanageable? Are you willing to recognize it? And what are you prepared to do about it? Because the Christian life ultimately calls us toward freedom: freedom to repent, to love, & to say yes to the good. Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up | What Owns You? 01:00 Orthodox Health Intro 02:28 Welcome & the Universal Problem of Addiction 07:38 Fr. Michael's Conversion to Orthodoxy 15:07 Orthobros, BJJ & Spiritual Maturity 20:51 Orthodox Anthropology: Nature, Sin & Recovery 26:30 Fasting, Intention & Hamartia 29:00 When the Passions Become Your Master 32:55 High Bottom, Low Bottom & Getting Sober 37:33 Nepsis: Sobriety Beyond Alcohol 48:04 Can You Be Addicted to Anger? 50:17 St. Anastasia & Orthodox Recovery 1:01:37 Can Yoga Be Christianified? 1:07:52 Exercise, Vanity & Proper Measure 1:09:19 Rigorous Honesty & the Road to Recovery 1:15:06 Is John Actually Real? 1:15:49 What Are We Being Freed For? 1:20:31 Final Thoughts & Outro Resources: St. Anastasia Orthodox Recovery Fellowship: https://saintanastasiafellowship.org/ Fr. Michael's Nashville recovery group: https://www.stjohnnashville.com/st-anastasia-recovery-group/ Steps of Transformation by Fr. Meletios Webber: https://store.ancientfaith.com/steps-of-transformation Returning the Lost Sheep by Fr. Dimitrios Moraitis: https://orthochristian.com/69642.html ⁠Logos Cinema⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram⁠⁠

When does honorable sacrifice become a cage? A man works long hours to provide for his family. He pays the bills, keeps his commitments, & does what needs to be done. But what happens when the people he's providing for receive only what's left of him? In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Fr. Michael Butler returns to help Dr. Mike & John examine one of the most difficult questions facing Christian men: How do we distinguish a cross we're called to carry from a way of life that is slowly consuming us? Beginning with an unlikely comparison between captive lions & modern office workers, the conversation explores the purpose of work, the dignity of the human person, spiritual freedom, monastic obedience, acedia, & the difference between sacrifice & tribute. Fr. Michael also shares his experience as a priest, husband, father, & provider, including the sacrifices his own family made over three decades of ministry. Along the way, we confront Christian burnout, the temptation to abandon difficult responsibilities, the temptation to endure out of fear, and the importance of freely choosing what we're working toward. The conversation ultimately reaches the Orthodox understanding of synergy, the example of Christ in Gethsemane, reconciliation with our fathers, & a powerful definition of mature masculinity: the gladful assumption of sacrificial responsibility. If this conversation brings someone to mind, send them the episode. And if you're enjoying Orthodox Health, follow the show & leave a rating or review. Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 01:00 Orthodox Health Intro 02:29 - When Duty Becomes a Cage 07:27 - A Man Ain't a Lion: Suffering & Human Nature 12:00 - Modern Work, the Body & Human Dignity 18:58 - Work, Fulfillment & the Hidden Cost of Providing 23:45 - Sacrifice Needs an Object 26:21 - Acedia, Endurance & the Freedom to Choose 32:23 - Work Before the Fall & the Meaning of Obedience 38:40 - Discerning Sacrifice from Captivity 43:50 - When Work Crowds Out Worship 51:11 - Provision, Responsibility & Masculine Identity 55:25 - Humility, Competence & Synergy 1:00:42 - Christlike Sacrifice & Mature Masculinity 1:09:35 - Final Reflections & Closing 🎙️ Find Fr. Michael Butler: Website - Avg2Alpha.com Instagram - ⁠@avg2alpha⁠ YouTube - ⁠Logos Cinema⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram⁠⁠

When Carollynn Xavier reached one of the lowest points of her life, she went to Fr. Ted Paraskevopoulos with a simple request: “I need a bunker. Just tell me what to do.” His answer was equally simple: Go to church. Take care of your son. Move your body. On this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Fr. Ted joins Dr. Michael Christian & John to explain why those three things mattered, how his own experience with burnout shaped that advice, & why the Orthodox life so often comes back to doing a few basic things consistently rather than constantly searching for something more profound. They discuss the Church as a spiritual gym, prayer & fasting as fundamentals, the relationship between body & soul, the problem of disembodied online Orthodoxy, responsibility to family, doing the right thing even when you do not feel like doing it, & what Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu can teach us about ego, humility & discipline. The conversation also turns to yoga, discernment, the limits of “secularized” spiritual practices, & why physical training can sharpen the Christian life without becoming a substitute for it. Ultimately, Fr. Ted brings the episode back to the same question: When life is falling apart, what has God actually put in front of you today? Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 00:59 Orthodox Health Intro 02:29 The Bunker 14:05 Simplicity, Burnout & What Actually Matters 24:17 Prayer, Fasting & Church 31:12 Body, Soul & the Embodied Christian Life 35:32 Online Orthodoxy & the Problem of Disembodiment 43:12 Responsibility, Duty & Doing the Right Thing 53:18 Jiu-Jitsu, Ego & Humility 01:00:27 Yoga, Discernment & “Christianizing” Practices 01:09:11 Three Things to Do Tomorrow 🎙️ Find Fr. Ted: Father Ted Talks on YouTube -  @fr.tedtalks  Instagram - @fr.tedtalks & @BunkerJiuJitsu Logos Cinema⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram⁠⁠

Adults get very good at staying inside the rooms where they already know what they’re doing. But what happens when competence becomes armor? In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Mike & John make the case for keeping at least one place in your life where you are still genuinely a student... where somebody else knows more than you, correction is unavoidable, failure is possible, and you occasionally have to say: “I don’t know. Show me.” Using Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as the obvious laboratory, they unpack why losing can reveal the ego, why competence can become part of our identity, & why becoming highly skilled without becoming unteachable may be the harder discipline. They also dig into the Orthodox distinction between humility and humiliation, false humility, confession, fasting, embodied asceticism, St. John Climacus, St. Isaac the Syrian, St. Anthony the Great, Abba Dorotheos, & why modern life can leave us increasingly optimized... but increasingly uncorrectable. Because eventually life makes every one of us a beginner again. The goal isn’t to stay bad at something. The goal is to remain teachable. Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 00:54 Orthodox Health Intro 02:23 Why Adults Hate Being Beginners 11:42 When Competence Becomes Armor 19:12 BJJ, Losing & the Ego 29:46 Humility vs. Humiliation 39:01 What Orthodox Humility Actually Looks Like 48:08 Modern Life Makes Us Uncorrectable 53:28 When Life Makes You a Beginner Again 56:06 Become Competent Without Becoming Unteachable 1:01:51 Remain a Student Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram⁠ Logos Cinema⁠⁠

Why do human beings laugh in the middle of pain, embarrassment, grief, or fear? In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, comedian Carollynn Xavier joins Dr. Michael Christian & John for a conversation about laughter, suffering, dark humor, humility, combat sports, & the Orthodox Christian life. Carollynn traces her journey from atheism and professional comedy into Orthodoxy, including what happened when public success and private misery collided. She talks about rethinking the responsibility of the microphone, finding jiu-jitsu & later boxing, learning the limits of self-will, & rebuilding her life around a remarkably simple rule: go to church, take care of your son, and move your body. They also get into the difference between humility & humiliation, humor as a defense mechanism, spiritual fatherhood and accountability, why people laugh together during terrible circumstances... & whether laughter might be “medicine” in a much deeper sense than simply lowering stress. Ultimately, the question is simple: What is laughter actually for? Chapters: 00:00 Dudes & Donuts? - Coming Up 00:59 Orthodox Health Intro 01:56 Why Do We Laugh When Life Hurts? 05:41 From Atheism to Orthodoxy 08:14 When Comedy Became More Than a Joke 14:09 What Happens When a Room Laughs Together 21:31 Funny on Stage, Miserable Offstage 28:37 Rogan, Jocko, Peterson… Then Christ 30:27 When Laughter Heals... & When It Hides 37:32 Jiu-Jitsu, Boxing & Dudes & Donuts 48:45 Why We Need Spiritual Fathers 55:26 Humility Without Humiliation 58:23 So What Is Laughter Actually For? Where to find Carollynn: Website - CarollynnXavier.com & Instagram Logos Cinema Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

Why does a reading teacher require a pull-up bar? In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Angelique Chaverri, M.S.Ed. joins Dr. Michael Christian & John to explore a question modern education often misses: What is the rest of the child doing while we’re asking the brain to learn? Angelique works with students through Scholé Academy & the Center for Students for Learning Differences. Her approach brings together reading instruction, movement, posture, proprioception, vestibular function, primitive reflexes, cognitive timing, visual tracking, rhythm, & what she calls classical physical education. We get into why ordinary childhood movement may matter for learning; the relationship between crawling, walking, balance, posture, eye tracking, & reading; what primitive reflexes like ATNR have to do with development; why older models of physical education included hanging, stall bars, health wands, music, rhythm, & self-defense; what modern schooling may have lost by pushing formal academics earlier; & why Angelique believes physical literacy belongs alongside academic literacy. But underneath all of it is the question Orthodox Health keeps returning to: What is the body actually for? Orthodox Christianity never treats the human being as a brain carried around inside an inconvenient body. We pray, fast, stand, kneel, bow, prostrate, sing, work, play, suffer, & worship as embodied persons. So why would education be different? Chapters: 0:00 - Coming Up - When We Got Rid of the Horses 00:56 Orthodox Health Intro 2:25 - Why the Body Participates in Learning 7:14 - Homeschooling Led Her to Orthodoxy 10:32 - Body, Mind, Soul & Child Development 17:15 - Why Does a Reading Teacher Require a Pull-Up Bar? 19:33 - Classical Physical Education 24:37 - Phonics, Sight Words & Modern Reading 32:40 - Cognitive Timing, Rhythm & the “Brain Clock” 40:16 - Primitive Reflexes & Neurological Development 43:29 - ATNR & Learning Differences 47:57 - Primitive Reflexes, Martial Arts & Movement 53:43 - Eye Tracking, Reading & Dyslexia 55:49 - Crawling, Walking & Processing Speed 58:19 - Posture & Learning 1:01:20 - Proprioception, Spatial Awareness & Math 1:06:14 - Swedish Stall Bars & Classical PE 1:11:12 - Did We Push Formal Academics Too Early? 1:13:38 - Why Two-Year-Olds Should Move 1:15:13 - Why Age Seven Keeps Showing Up 1:17:03 - Jump Rope & the Scholar-Athlete 1:19:58 - Physical Literacy & What Needs to Change 1:20:52 - Where to Find Angelique 1:21:40 - Orthodox Formation Is Embodied 1:26:20 - Marina Becomes the Longitudinal Case Study If this conversation made you rethink what learning is supposed to look like, subscribe to the Orthodox Health Podcast, leave your biggest takeaway below, & share this episode with a parent, teacher, homeschool family, or educator who needs to hear it. Work with Angelique: Scholé Academy Website & their Learning Differences Center The Renaissance Video & The Motivation Factor⁠ The Lean Berets - Youtube Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

What is exercise actually for? In this episode, Presbytera Marina Thornburg returns to the Orthodox Health Podcast for a conversation with Dr. Michael Christian & John about what happens when something genuinely good (exercise, discipline, taking care of the body) begins demanding more than it should. Can physical discipline make us more virtuous? Is something ascetical simply because it's difficult? What happens when the “optimal” training plan conflicts with prayer, marriage, children, work, or the people who actually need us? We talk about health hyperfixation, vanity beyond appearance, the danger of making discipline part of our identity, learning to adapt when life interrupts the plan, & why sometimes the ability to cheerfully miss a workout may say more about our relationship with fitness than never missing one. Presbytera Marina also shares how motherhood changed her relationship with exercise, how her family incorporates movement into ordinary life, what she hopes her children learn from watching their parents, and why fitness ultimately needs to make us more capable of serving... not more consumed with ourselves. “Let exercise help you serve. It's not your master; you are its master. And to the glory of God.” - Pres. Marina Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 00:45 Orthodox Health Intro 02:14 What Is Exercise Actually For? 05:33 Consistency Over Flash 10:20 Health Culture Has a “Why” Problem 12:10 Fitness, Marriage & Motherhood 15:02 Exercise, Asceticism & Spiritual Discipline 18:52 Self-Mastery Isn’t Holiness 20:46 When Health Becomes Hyperfixation 24:25 When Fitness Conflicts With Your Calling 27:53 Fitness, Family & the Royal Path 28:42 Habit Stacking 31:23 Health Requires Adaptability 36:31 Vanity Beyond Appearance 38:48 Shortcuts, Suffering & Optimization 44:35 What Should Fitness Prepare Us to Do? 49:57 Let Exercise Help You Serve 50:26 What Our Children Learn From Us 52:44 What Is Your Fitness Actually For? 53:06 Where to Find Pres. Marina 55:24 Final Thoughts Work with Presbytera Marina: Orthodox True Femininity - Website & Instagram The True Femininity Hormone Foundations Course Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

What can modern medicine learn from Orthodox fasting without reducing an ancient ascetical practice to another health intervention? In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Pete Patitsas, emergency physician & author of The Athos Diet, joins Dr. Michael Christian & John to explore what the fasting traditions associated with Mt. Athos can teach us about food, health, discipline & the formation of the human person. They discuss intermittent fasting, metabolic health, protein during Great Lent, shellfish, pea protein, tofu, fasting-compliant junk food, food addiction & the relationship between fasting & feasting. But the conversation ultimately goes much deeper than nutrition: Why does Christianity use something as visceral as hunger to teach restraint?What happens when suffering is given a purpose?Can health optimization itself become disordered?And what does modern medicine miss when it isolates the physiological effects of fasting from the spiritual life in which those practices developed?Dr. Pete also shares why he believes fasting teaches delayed gratification, how purpose once helped him get a frightened patient out of an overwhelmed emergency department, & why Orthodox fasting may have something important to offer a culture increasingly unable to resist its appetites. Topics include: The Athos Diet • Mt. Athos • Orthodox fasting • intermittent fasting • Great Lent • fasting protein • metabolic health • delayed gratification • food addiction • asceticism • purpose • nocebo • fasting & feasting Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 01:00 Orthodox Health Intro 02:29 The Athos Diet & Orthodox Health 07:13 You Can't Fast From Something You Don't Desire 12:59 What Is The Athos Diet? 20:48 Health, Responsibility & Purpose 27:39 What Can Mt. Athos Teach Modern Medicine? 33:24 Protein During the Orthodox Fast 39:33 Training, Duty & a Purpose-Driven Life 42:53 Suffering, Purpose & the Nocebo Effect 47:18 Fasting, Withdrawal & Food Addiction 52:22 Tofu, Shellfish & Protein Optimization 57:40 When Health Optimization Becomes an Obsession 1:03:05 Why Resisting Good Things Changes Us 1:08:38 Can Fasting Help Rebuild Culture? 1:13:18 Fasting, Feasting & the Bigger Picture Connect with Dr. Pete & your copy of The Athos Diet: Before There Was Atkins, There Was Athos on TheAthosDiet.comThe Athos Diet YouTube Channel Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

What if the goal of health isn’t to eliminate stress... but to become capable of responding to the right kinds of stress well? Modern wellness culture is intensely focused on lowering cortisol, regulating the nervous system, maximizing recovery, & avoiding added strain. Sometimes that is exactly what health requires. But somewhere along the way, “chronic stress can make us sick” became “stress itself is bad.” Exercise is stress. Fasting is stress. Heat & cold are stress. Hunger is uncomfortable. In this episode of The Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Michael Christian & John ask what separates adaptive stress from destructive stress. We explore cortisol, homeostasis, allostasis, inflammation, oxidative stress, hormesis, recovery, capacity, control, meaning, nervous-system regulation, fasting, voluntary hardship, & why Christian asceticism cannot be reduced to an ancient biohacking protocol. The deeper question is: What am I enslaved to? Because the point of asceticism is not becoming the person who can suffer the most. It is becoming free enough to love. What stress do I need to remove? What stress do I need to recover from? What stress do I need to stop avoiding? Next week: Dr. Pete Patitsas, author of The Athos Diet, on traditional Athonite eating & the limits of reducing asceticism to a health intervention. Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 00:59 Orthodox Health Intro 02:29 Is Stress Always Bad? 07:35 What Do We Actually Mean by “Stress”? 09:31 Homeostasis, Allostasis & the Stress Response 10:01 Cortisol Is Not Inherently the Enemy 11:45 Inflammation, Oxidative Stress & Context 14:18 Chronic Stress vs. Adaptive Stress 15:10 Allostatic Load & Recovery 17:50 Exercise: Voluntary Hardship We Already Accept 20:49 Dose, Recovery, Capacity & Hormesis 23:16 Fasting as a Physiological Stressor 25:50 Recovery Is Part of Adaptation 31:56 Control, Meaning & the Experience of Stress 36:22 Jiu-Jitsu, Discomfort & Learning Not to Panic 37:23 When Nervous System Regulation Becomes Fear of Activation 38:14 Nocebo, Hunger & Hypervigilance 39:43 When Bodily Desire Becomes a Command 43:21 Why Hormesis Cannot Explain Asceticism 47:22 Does Science Need to “Validate” Orthodox Practice? 50:22 The Passions & Voluntary Deprivation 52:28 Not All Voluntary Hardship Is Asceticism 53:01 Toughness Culture, Masculinity & Pride 55:37 Why Almsgiving Breaks the Biohacking Framework 56:56 Christianity Is Not a Cult of Suffering 59:17 Destructive Asceticism & the Need for Discernment 01:01:38 Why Obedience Matters 01:05:35 Faithfulness, Temperance & Freedom 01:07:28 What Do We Lose When We Stop Practicing Being Denied? 01:09:08 What Are We Actually Training When We Fast? 01:13:01 Fasting, Obedience & the Tyranny of Self-Will 01:15:09 Need vs. Preference vs. Habit 01:17:14 Why Fasting Requires Prayer & Almsgiving 01:18:45 Limits, Creaturehood & Modern Life 01:21:25 Why the Feast Matters as Much as the Fast 01:23:10 Stop Inventing New Hardships 01:25:52 So, Is Stress Always Bad? 01:26:35 Three Questions to Ask About Stress 01:29:37 The Case for Voluntary Hardship Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

Can fear, expectation, & the stories we tell about our bodies actually change what we experience physically? Elder Thaddeus of Vitovnica famously taught that “our thoughts determine our lives.” Modern research into the nocebo effect, pain, conditioning, stress, & health anxiety gives us a fascinating (though much narrower) window into the relationship between thought & bodily experience. In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Mike & John explore what our thoughts can and cannot do to the body; how diagnoses & prognoses can become identities; why constant health information can produce hypervigilance instead of wisdom; & why Orthodox Christianity refuses both New Age mind-over-matter & the materialist claim that thoughts are irrelevant to physical health. Dr. Mike also shares the personal story of being repeatedly diagnosed with cystic fibrosis as a child & told he might not live past twenty, drawing a striking parallel with Elder Thaddeus being told at eighteen that he might have only five years left. Ultimately, the question is larger than whether thoughts affect symptoms: How do we care faithfully for the body without trying to control what only belongs to God? Topics include Elder Thaddeus, Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives, nocebo & placebo, health anxiety, symptom scanning, diagnosis and identity, prayer, stress physiology, surrender, & Christian hope. Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 00:46 Orthodox Health Intro 02:16 Our Thoughts Determine Our Lives? 05:34 What Is the Nocebo Effect? 08:51 Elder Thaddeus Was No Stranger to Illness 11:21 Dr. Mike Was Told He Wouldn’t Live Past 20 15:05 When a Diagnosis Becomes an Identity 18:52 Health, Control & the Fear of Death 22:36 Being Afraid vs. Nurturing Fear 24:45 How the Nocebo Effect Actually Works 28:44 Stress, Relationships & Physical Healing 31:27 How Medical Language Shapes Expectations 35:03 Attention, Hypervigilance & Symptom Loops 37:28 Is Health Content Making You Sicker? 44:04 Elder Thaddeus & the “Whirlpool of Thoughts” 47:15 Information Cannot Give You Certainty 49:16 What Inner Peace Actually Means 50:29 When You Stop Inhabiting Your Body 55:39 Elder Thaddeus on Stress, Illness & Surrender 1:03:12 Serving Others Without Carrying the World 1:06:35 Why We Keep Picking the Thought Back Up 1:09:09 Health Anxiety, Checking & the Illusion of Control 1:14:11 When Prudence Becomes Rumination 1:18:17 Turning Surrender Into Another Biohack 1:21:34 Why Prayer Is NOT a Placebo 1:24:47 Science, Noetic Life & Elder Thaddeus 1:26:45 Do Our Thoughts Determine Our Health? 1:28:31 The Final Takeaway Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

You will die. So what exactly are you preparing your body for? After exploring how Orthodox Christians should feed the body during fasting & how to train without making the gym an idol, in this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Michael Christian & John confront the question that neither nutrition nor physical discipline can answer: What are health, strength, suffering, & ultimately the body itself actually for? The Dormition gives the Church’s answer. The Theotokos, the holiest human person who ever lived, still shared our mortality. She truly died. Yet the Feast does not present her death as defeat. Christ receives His Mother, the grave does not have the final word, & her glorification reveals the destiny of humanity united to Him. They explore the theology of the Dormition icon, why Orthodox Christians fast before the Feast, bodily resurrection, illness and human dignity, the limits of modern wellness culture, remembrance of death, the difference between physical toughness & Christian asceticism, & what it actually means for a Christian to “die well.” Along the way, they ask a harder Orthodox Health question: Is caring for your health making you more available for love, service, & surrender... or simply making you more afraid of losing control? Health is good. Strength is good. Medicine is good. But none of them can tell us what our life is ultimately for. ☦️ Blessed Dormition Fast. Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 0:41 Orthodox Health Intro 02:10 What Is the Body For? 09:04 What Is the Dormition? 15:23 Why Fast Before Dormition? 20:07 Why Celebrate a Death? 31:24 Reading the Dormition Icon 41:11 Scripture & the Feast 49:06 Why Mary Still Needs Christ 54:48 The Fantasy of Invulnerability 1:03:24 The Destiny of the Church 1:08:06 Dignity Beyond Productivity 1:16:21 Physical Discipline vs. Asceticism 1:24:02 Remembering Death Without Fear 1:29:24 What This Means for Health 1:32:08 Five Diagnostic Questions 1:44:04 What Does It Mean to Die Well? 1:45:05 Destined for Resurrection Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

Is your training serving your vocation... or has your life quietly begun serving your training? Physical training can teach discipline, patience, consistency & the ability to endure discomfort. But difficulty alone does not make something Orthodox asceticism. In this episode of The Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Michael Christian & John are joined by Subdeacon Michael Cassell: a certified strength & conditioning coach, an active-duty serviceman, Catechumen/New Member Coordinator at All Saints of North America, & lifelong Orthodox Christian... to discuss how training should change during the fasting seasons of the Church. They explore whether Orthodox Christians should expect personal records during fasting periods, why training volume and frequency may need to decrease, how to preserve strength and muscle, the role of sleep & recovery, & how to periodize physical training around the Orthodox Church year. The conversation moves beyond programming into a deeper question: can the gym become an idol? Subdeacon Michael explains how physical success can mask spiritual sickness, why discipline can become spiritually deceptive, & how nepsis, or watchfulness, helps reveal when the body has stopped serving our vocation & quietly become its master. They also discuss military service, suffering, fatherhood, Spartan racing, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, prayer during training & why becoming more formidable does not necessarily make us more loving. Topics include: Fitness versus Orthodox asceticismTraining during Great Lent, the Nativity Fast & the Dormition FastStrength, volume, intensity & recoveryPreserving muscle & performance while fastingSleep &nervous-system overloadMilitary service, suffering & fatherhoodSpartan racing & Brazilian jiu-jitsuPrayer rules & divided attentionNepsis & spiritual watchfulnessWhen fitness becomes identity, control or idolatryChapters: 00:00 Coming up 00:48 Orthodox Health Intro 02:18 How Should Orthodox Christians Train During a Fast? 08:53 Meet Subdeacon Michael Cassell 15:37 Why are we attracted to difficult training? 19:12 When fitness competes with prayer 21:13 Can the gym become an idol? 23:33 Chasing PRs during an Orthodox fast? 26:39 Cardio loss, BJJ & getting humbled 30:01 Military service, suffering & fatherhood 35:11 Can chasing suffering become addictive? 36:50 Lower-volume, higher-intensity training 40:00 Sleep, recovery & nervous-system overload 43:02 What fitness culture misunderstands about Orthodoxy 45:41 Periodizing training around the Church year 48:16 Spartan racing & becoming a complete athlete 52:42 The biggest fasting-season training mistake 53:59 Prayer ropes, workouts & divided attention 56:10 When physical health masks spiritual sickness 58:26 The one takeaway to remember 59:31 Where to find Subdeacon Michael 1:01:00 Is training still your servant? 1:07:35 Closing thoughts Find Subdeacon Michael on Instagram at @struggle_make_strong His Other Resources: Jason Brown, Mountain Tactical Institute, SOFLETE Sbn Michael's 12-Month Training Plan (Spotify won't let us include the Google Drive File, so DM him or us if you want it) Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

Peanut butter contains protein... but does that make it a protein source? In this episode of The Orthodox Health Podcast, Dr. Michael Christian & John build the ultimate Orthodox fasting protein tier list for the Dormition Fast. They rank shellfish, lentils, split peas, lupini beans, bean pasta, pea & rice protein, black beans, chickpeas, nutritional yeast, peanut butter, quinoa, oats, tahini, sourdough, vegan burgers, protein bars, seitan, tofu, tempeh & soy-based imitation meats. This is not a ranking of the holiest, cheapest or tastiest fasting foods. The central question is much more practical: does this food merely contain protein, or can it genuinely function as the protein anchor of a fasting meal? Along the way, they explain why shrimp & shellfish earn S tier, why lentils remain excellent without quite reaching the top, why peanut butter & quinoa are commonly overrated as protein sources, why a pea & rice protein blend can outperform either protein alone & why highly processed “Pharisee meats” belong near the bottom. The episode also moves beyond the rankings to show how to build a realistic, protein-anchored fasting day. They cover breakfast, lunch & dinner ideas for people who use protein powder, prefer whole foods, cannot eat shellfish or struggle with low energy during longer fasts. The goal is not macro worship, dietary perfection or turning fasting into a nutrition contest. It is to practice obedience, simplicity & stewardship: choose real foods, plan ahead, identify the protein anchor, then stop obsessing & participate in the fast. Chapters: 00:00 Coming Up 02:20 The Fasting Protein Problem 04:17 How the Rankings Work 07:30 Shrimp & Shellfish 11:31 Lentils 17:26 Peanut Butter 23:24 Quinoa 27:10 Bean Pasta 31:27 Protein Powders 35:58 Restoring Your Energy 36:49 Beans & Supporting Proteins 40:48 Seeds, Tahini, Oats & Bread 47:59 Processed Vegan Foods 52:40 The Final Tier 53:39 Seitan 54:29 Tofu, Tempeh & Soy 58:28 Pharisee Meats 59:36 Fasting Without Burnout 1:00:15 Building a Fasting Day 1:04:30 Whole-Food Alternatives 1:06:09 The Three-Meal Test 1:07:09 Asceticism Is Not Neglect 1:08:06 Stewardship Beyond Nutrition 1:09:18 The True Purpose of Fasting 1:10:11 The Key Distinction Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram

What connects regenerative agriculture, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Orthodox community, & the formation of the human person? In this episode of the Orthodox Health Podcast, Nick Hillman rejoins Dr. Michael Christian & John to explain what regenerative agriculture is actually trying to restore... from soil biology, nutrient density & plant health to the relationship between farmers, food & the people they nourish. Nick walks through regenerative viticulture, soil & plant testing, Korean Natural Farming, JADAM, compost extracts, cover crops, crop rotation, calcium amendments, earthworms, seed saving & the practical realities of restoring damaged land. He also audits John’s new backyard garden & explains how ordinary families can begin rebuilding the soil beneath their own feet. The conversation then expands into Nick’s other work: the Meeting of the Lord Ranch, a proposed Orthodox retreat center and agricultural community; St. Nestor’s Grappling Club; his journey to a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt; & the announcement of our developing OrthrowBros podcast. Farming, BJJ, homesteading & Orthodox community may appear to be separate topics. But each asks the same question: What does it mean to faithfully tend something God has entrusted to you? Real strength preserves, cultivates, serves, & leaves something healthier than it found it. Featuring discussion of: Regenerative agriculturesoil healthnutrient densityregenerative viticulturebackyard gardeningKorean Natural FarmingJADAMhomemade amendmentsseed savingOrthodox homesteadingMeeting of the Lord RanchSt. NestorBrazilian Jiu-JitsuOrthodox masculinitystewardship & Christian formationChapters: 00:00 Coming Up 00:39 Orthodox Health Intro 02:19 Tending Creation: Soil, Strength & Stewardship 07:57 Regenerative Viticulture & the Future of Farming 14:00 What Regenerative Agriculture Actually Regenerates 17:38 Book Ad 19:17 Transitioning Farms Without Destroying the Soil 22:28 John’s Backyard Garden Audit 25:32 Korean Natural Farming, JADAM & Garden Amendments 31:13 Energy Ad 32:05 Watermelons, Soil Testing, Earthworms & Saving Seeds 48:04 Fasting Ad 48:42 The Meeting of the Lord Ranch 59:05 St. Nestor’s Grappling Club & Orthodox BJJ 01:03:48 Announcing the OrthrowBros Podcast 01:07:07 Tending What God Has Entrusted to YouMeeting of the Lord: Website, Orthodox Crowdfunding, Instagram, & YoutubeRegerative Ag Solutions - Website & InstagramSt. Nestor's Grappling Club - Instagram & YouTubeOther Resources: The Temple Steps "Salt of the Earth Conference" - Nigel Palmer - Regenerative Grower's GuideMaster Cho Work with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Mike⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Signed Copies of Orthodoxy & The Medicine of the Future: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠OrthodoxHealth.com/book⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Order Orthodoxy & the Medicine of the Future on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate to St. John the Theologian ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with a One-Time or Recurring donation Intro & Outro Music: St. John of Chicago Orthodox Church Choir (Arkansas) - Please support their building fund by buying the whole album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Orthodox Health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Telegram