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Welcome to The Boardroom Path, the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
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When the Truth Comes Out with Duncan Mavin and Kate Brader
2026/10/28
How should a board respond when its decisions and conduct come under public, regulatory or political scrutiny?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Duncan Mavin and Kate Brader of FTI Consulting about uncovering uncomfortable facts and leading when they become public. Duncan draws on investigative journalism to explain why directors should challenge executive accounts, listen when journalists raise concerns and ask simple questions. Kate sets out how a short, principles-based crisis framework, regular exercises and clear boundaries between board, chair and executive can prepare an organisation for pressure. Duncan and Kate also discuss decisions made with incomplete information, recording what was known and why, and communicating with priority stakeholders.
Their examples give NEDs practical questions to raise before a crisis: when was the plan last exercised, who leads the response, and would each director stand behind the organisation's decisions?
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(04:17) - Greensill, Credit Suisse, Leadership and Culture
(08:36) - How Boards Become Complacent
(13:42) - FTI Consulting's Crisis-Response Work
(16:37) - Principles-Based Resilience Planning
(20:17) - Reputation Risk and Public Scrutiny
(22:25) - The Board's Role in Crisis Exercises
(26:12) - Questions NEDs Should Ask Before a Crisis
(31:09) - When the Chair or CEO Faces Allegations
(34:02) - Speed, Accuracy and Verifying Facts
(37:58) - Centralising Communications Across Media
(44:04) - Learning After a Crisis and Board Accountability
Duncan Mavin: Duncan Mavin is a Managing Director in FTI Consulting's Crisis & Litigation Communications team, specialising in crisis communication and crisis management, with expertise in global media relations. Before joining FTI Consulting, Duncan held senior editorial and management roles at The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg News and The Washington Post. He is a qualified chartered accountant and the author of Pyramid of Lies and Meltdown, books about Greensill Capital and Credit Suisse.Kate Brader: Kate Brader is a Senior Managing Director at FTI Consulting and leads its UK crisis communications practice. She specialises in crisis communication and crisis management, including high-profile live incidents. Her work has included responses to the NotPetya cyber-attack, discrimination issues and environmental activism. Before joining FTI Consulting, Kate developed and led Deloitte's Live Response service.
Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Boards should test whether recurring incidents point to a wider failure in leadership, culture or the business model, rather than treating each as an isolated event.Journalists and regulators can provide an external signal that management has filtered or dismissed; directors should listen and test the underlying facts.A short, principles-based crisis framework gives leaders room to adapt when a detailed manual cannot anticipate the situation.Executives lead the operational response; the chair supports, receives updates and keeps the wider board informed without pulling it into day-to-day management.Credible communication depends on verification, a clear record of decisions and direct contact with the stakeholders most affected.Action Points:
Set crisis principles before an incident: Agree how the organisation will act on truth, transparency and stakeholder needs. Identify who has authority to make decisions and communicate. Keep the principles short enough for senior leaders to use under pressure. Align the plan with the risk register: Review the crisis framework when the risk profile changes. Check that the scenarios include cyber, governance, misconduct and operational events. Confirm that the people responsible have practised their roles. Exercise the response: Schedule regular simulations for executives and the board chair. Test decision paths, communications and the handover of information, not just the written plan. Record gaps and assign follow-up actions. Verify, record and communicate: State what is known and what remains uncertain, and log who decided what and on which information. Correct earlier statements promptly when new facts are confirmed. Contact the stakeholders most affected through suitable channels. Review after the crisis: Stand down the response formally and check on the staff and advisers involved. Arrange a debrief while the decisions are still fresh. For a serious incident, consider an independent review that reports to the board.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Quintin Price on Judgement, Independence and the Chair's Role
2026/10/20
What changes when a seasoned executive joins a board and must influence decisions without executive authority?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Quintin Price, Chair of Oxford University Endowment Management and formerly of BlackRock, about what makes a non-executive director useful once they reach the table. Quintin draws on board roles at a listed investment trust, a grant-making charity, a US start-up and a university endowment. He explains why the board exists to represent the owners, why a chair should speak last, and why the chair can change the player but should never run onto the pitch.
On 12 October, the FCA published a review finding that effective governance relies on constructive challenge and clear decision-making, according to Norton Rose Fulbright's summary. Provision 29 of the UK Corporate Governance Code now asks listed boards to show the basis for their view on material controls, as Board Intelligence explains.
Quintin's model is a board that works like a choir, with different voices and shared operating principles. His advice to aspiring NEDs is to be at peace with who they are and find the board that needs their voice.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:29) - A Career Built on Learning
(05:10) - How an Analyst Learned to Read Boards
(08:28) - Agency Theory and Whom the Board Serves
(11:15) - Standing on Principle
(12:36) - Purpose, Profit and the Licence to Operate
(17:31) - ESG and When to Take a Position
(23:09) - Judgement and the Board as a Choir
(28:02) - Why the Chair Should Speak Last
(31:53) - The Chair, the CEO and the Football Pitch
(38:44) - Choosing the Right Boards
(47:12) - Credibility, References and Being Yourself
Quintin Price: Quintin Price is Chair of Oxford University Endowment Management (OUem), where the board announced Caroline Serdarevic as its next Chief Executive in October 2026. He is Senior Independent Director of F&C Investment Trust, which he joined in March 2020, a trustee of the Leverhulme Trust, and a non-executive director of Aperture Investors in New York. He also sits on the investment committee of the Royal Shakespeare Company. From 2005 to 2015 he was at BlackRock as Global Head of Alpha Strategies and a member of the Global Executive Committee, and he later served as Global Head of Asset Management at Deutsche Bank. Earlier roles include Global Co-Chief Investment Officer at Gartmore and Global Head of Research at Putnam Investments and James Capel. His career across equity research, investment management and boards with very different owners gives him a practical view of how purpose and ownership shape good governance.
Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
The board exists to represent the owners of the business, and personal agendas, egos and social factors can pull it away from that mission.A good chair draws out every director's view and summarises it before adding their own, rather than steering the discussion from the start.Independence of mind works when directors share core operating principles, which lets them be hard on the issues and soft on the people.Purpose and profit can reinforce each other, but a company that gives away too much of its return risks losing its licence to operate.Executive success earns a seat at the table, yet NEDs must stay off the pitch and influence executives through questions rather than instructions.Action Points:
Speak last as chair: Go round the table and ask each director by name whether they have anything to add. Summarise what you have heard before offering your own perspective. If someone has already made your point, say you agree and move on.Test the fit before you accept: Ask what the board needs, how it operates and whether its culture matches your own principles. Do not take the first role offered simply to gain board experience. Talk to people who have served on boards, since they can help you spot a poor fit early.Ask rather than tell: When advising executives, frame your input as questions such as "Have you thought about this?" A Socratic approach is less threatening, so executives are more likely to listen. When they get something right, tell them, because leading as a CEO can be lonely.Check your record of challenge: Provision 29 of the UK Corporate Governance Code applies to financial years beginning on or after 1 January 2026 and asks listed boards to declare whether their material controls worked, as Board Intelligence sets out. Ask whether your minutes record the questions directors asked and the answers they received. That record is the evidence of how the board reached its view.Learn from poor appointments: If a board role does not work out, ask what you missed and why. Consider honestly whether ego, vanity or naivety shaped your decision to join. Use the answers to set clearer criteria for your next appointment.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Andrew Strauss on Board Effectiveness and Lessons from Elite Sport
2026/10/14
How do you judge a leader's contribution when the most important results may not arrive for another four years?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Andrew Strauss, former England cricket captain, former Director of England Cricket and executive chairman of Mindflick, about what the boardroom can take from elite sport. They look at why alignment between chair and CEO matters more than any planning document, how England's impressive 2015 World Cup plan failed on the pitch, and how a board decides when to lean in and when to stay out of the executive team's way.
The timing is pointed. Polling by NEDonBoard found that 80% of board members report dysfunction on at least one of the boards they sit on, with chair behaviour the most cited cause, while Board Intelligence research shows only 33% of directors see their board as essential to value creation.
Andrew explains how Mindflick's profiling work surfaces what his team calls the empty chair, the perspective a board is least likely to take, and why pressure makes that blind spot worse.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:43) - From Middlesex Captain at 24 to England
(06:33) - Leading by Example and Where You Add Value
(08:07) - Captain and Coach, Chair and CEO: Alignment at the Top
(09:47) - When a Great Plan Meets Poor Execution
(12:15) - Embracing Chaos within a Framework
(13:13) - Noses In, Fingers Out: The Board's Real Job
(15:17) - Part-Time Coaches, Part-Time Boards and Complexity
(18:25) - Why Mindflick Was Founded
(24:33) - Inside the Profiling Tool and the Empty Chair
(28:33) - Measuring How a Team Is Actually Performing
(31:38) - Board Evaluations and a Strengths-Based Approach
Andrew Strauss: Andrew Strauss is executive chairman of Mindflick, the performance psychology business he co-founded in 2013 with Dr Mark Bawden and Dr Pete Lindsay, and he now leads the company's expansion across Asia-Pacific from its new Hong Kong office. As a player he captained England in all formats, won two Ashes series and took the Test side to number one in the world rankings. He then served as Director of England Cricket from 2015 to 2018, where he rebuilt the men's one-day set-up and put in place the performance plan behind the 2019 World Cup win. Mindflick's Spotlight tool, built on reinforcement sensitivity theory, has now delivered more than 80,000 profiles and accredited over 1,200 practitioners, with clients spanning financial services, insurance and technology alongside Manchester United, England Cricket and England Rugby. Andrew is also executive chairman of TTB Sport Capital and founder of the Ruth Strauss Foundation.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Alignment between chair and CEO, like captain and coach, is the precondition for everything else; without it the board breeds factions and people start protecting their own position rather than the organisation's.A board's role is context-dependent, not fixed. Sometimes it needs to dial its involvement up, sometimes right down, and the useful question is what this moment demands rather than what the calendar says.Boards often lean into the areas they find interesting rather than the areas where they hold real expertise, which is how they end up stepping on the executive team's feet.Under pressure, people default to their own preferences and become less adaptable, so a board is at its least diverse in thinking exactly when diversity of thinking matters most.Internal board evaluations frequently amount to marking your own homework, which is why measuring how the team is functioning day to day, not just the output, gives a chair something more honest to work with.Action Points:
Test the chair and CEO alignment first: Before looking at board composition or process, establish whether the chair and CEO genuinely see the business the same way. Misalignment at the top creates insecurity that spreads quickly through the board and the executive team. Treat it as a recruitment and appointment question, not something to patch up later. Shorten the planning horizon: Replace a fixed multi-year plan with a clear statement of intent plus regular checkpoints. Ask management what has changed in the market since the strategy was written and whether the plan still reflects it. Keep the framework and let the detail adapt. Name the board's empty chair: Work out which perspective your board is least likely to take, whether that is commercial, operational, customer or contrarian. Ask explicitly whose view is missing before a significant decision. Assign someone to argue that position when nobody naturally holds it. Watch where the board leans in: Audit the agenda for areas the board enjoys rather than areas where it adds value. Compare the time spent on each topic with the expertise actually in the room. Where interest outruns competence, hand the detail back to the executive team. Measure how the board works, not just what it delivers: Add a measure of board functioning alongside the usual performance reporting, and repeat it on a consistent basis. Treat a facilitated or data-led view as a counterweight to self-assessment. Use the gap between the two as the agenda for development.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
From the Battlefield to Boardroom Crisis with Tim Robinson
2026/10/06
What happens when a board's reputation comes under attack before anyone knows what actually happened?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Tim Robinson, partner at Schillings and a former British Army Major General, about why reputational resilience is a governance discipline rather than a communications exercise. They examine how data breaches, leaked documents, extortion and coordinated smear campaigns move across social and traditional media in minutes, and why boards that place reputation near the top of the risk register often do little practical preparation. Tim argues that the most important commodity in any crisis is facts, and that boards should rehearse scenarios, appoint a small empowered task team and prepare rebuttals for the stories they can anticipate.
The argument is timely: the BBC reported in September 2026 on a deepfake victim calling for reputational abuse to be recognised as a distinct form of harm BBC News, while research published this year found deepfake fraud operating at industrial scale The Guardian. From privacy exposure audits for new NEDs to the first hour of a crisis, this conversation offers a practical roadmap for directors who want to be ready before the pressure arrives.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(02:33) - How People Behave Under Pressure
(04:41) - Leadership Lessons Across Army and Boardroom
(07:22) - Inside Schillings and High-Stakes Advice
(08:57) - Reputation as Governance, Not Communications
(10:21) - Who Owns Reputational Risk in the Boardroom
(12:30) - Privacy Exposure Audits for New Directors
(15:25) - Managing Your Digital Footprint Early
(18:40) - When Reputational Threats Reach Board Level
(20:17) - Out-Facting the Other Side with Facts
(22:31) - Building Preparedness and the Task Team
(26:52) - Simulating the First Hour of a Crisis
Tim Robinson: Tim Robinson CBE is a partner at Schillings, the multidisciplinary consultancy that advises boards, companies and individuals on high-stakes situations affecting their reputation, privacy and security. A former Major General in the British Army, he joined Schillings in 2016 as its first non-lawyer partner since the firm converted to an LLP. He is an experienced negotiator who leads internal inquiries, settles disputes, runs counter-extortion operations and handles smear campaigns, and he features in the Spear's Best Reputation Managers Index and the Citywealth Leaders List.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Reputational resilience is a governance discipline, not a communications issue, and no single discipline can prepare for or solve a reputation problem alone.Boards list reputational risk near the top of the register but often invest more in cyber or fire safety, because no inspector will close them down over it.A privacy exposure audit for a high-profile new director is a duty of care, because if controversy comes, an aerial shot of the house follows.Routine pressures such as media inquiries and unhappy employees are more likely to cause a crisis than rare coordinated smear campaigns.Facts win the day: writing down the worst story a respected paper could print, and preparing the rebuttal evidence, is the core of preparedness.Action Points:
Write the worst-case story now: Ask your task team to draft the story a respected publication such as the Financial Times could write about your business. Include every negative allegation that could appear. Then prepare a rebuttal fact and the supporting evidence for each claim, so you are never responding from a standing start.Appoint and empower a small crisis task team: Delegate crisis handling to a small group, such as the CEO, the senior in-house lawyer and the communications lead, reporting directly to the board. Keep the model simple and repeatable rather than building complex flow diagrams. Give the team the authority to employ external advisers when needed.Rehearse the crisis, not just the register: Put reputational scenarios on the board agenda as live simulations rather than coloured rows on a risk register. Rehearse with the task team so everyone knows their role and decision thresholds. Treat the exercise as preparation, not compliance.Commission a privacy exposure audit for new appointments: For any high-profile arrival, simulate what an investigative journalist could find from public sources. Present the findings privately to the individual and pay for it as a board. Let them decide how to reduce their own exposure.Brief employees early as well as outsiders: Treat internal and external communications as equally important in a crisis. Ask employees not to amplify speculation in the early days, because sharing screenshots raises the profile of the story. Use internal messages to reassure, even before the full picture is known.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Alex Hill on High Performance and Boards Under Pressure
2026/09/22
How long should a good board member stay in the room?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Professor Alex Hill, Professor of Operations Management at Kingston Business School and co-founder of the Centre for High Performance, about what keeps organisations successful across generations rather than quarters.
The timing matters. Russell Reynolds Associates recorded 234 chief executive departures globally in 2025, a 16% rise on the year before, with the average tenure of outgoing CEOs falling to 7.1 years, according to its Global CEO Turnover Index. Alex's own study of 440 school leaders found that the ones who built lasting improvement, the architects, almost lost their jobs at the end of year two, while the cost cutters he calls surgeons collected the accolades and moved on.
The conversation covers the stable core and disruptive edge of enduring institutions, why about a quarter of a board should hold a decade of organisational memory but few should stay beyond fifteen years, and the one hard number Alex trusts as a predictor of long-term success.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:24) - Why Some Organisations Last for Generations
(07:18) - From Olympic Medals to Sustainable Systems
(12:15) - Research That Comes from Practice
(16:09) - High Performance as Steam
(17:42) - Pressure, Blue Thinking and Scenario Planning
(20:43) - Learning from Ballet, Cage Fighters and Marines
(22:30) - What the Board's Role Really Is
(27:00) - A Stable Core and a Disruptive Edge
(33:21) - Board Tenure and Collective Wisdom
(36:30) - Oaks, Teenagers and Room for New Growth
(42:16) - Architect Leaders, Surgeons and the Vitality Index
Alex Hill: Professor Alex Hill is Professor of Operations Management at Kingston Business School and co-founder and Director of the Centre for High Performance, a research collaboration between senior faculty at Kingston University, Duke Corporate Education, London Business School and Green Templeton College, Oxford. He began his career in engineering, spending ten years across divisions of the Smiths Group and managing factories and larger parts of the business before moving into research and teaching. Over more than twenty years he has studied high-performing organisations across elite sport, education, the arts, healthcare, technology, financial services and the military, including Olympic teams, British Cycling, the New Zealand All Blacks, NASA, Eton College and the Royal Marines. He is the author of Centennials, drawn from a thirteen-year study of institutions that have stayed relevant for more than a century, and a Harvard Business Review contributor whose research on architect leaders challenged the appeal of the heroic turnaround chief executive. Thinkers50 has named him one of the thirty management thinkers most likely to shape how organisations are managed and led.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
High performance is high stress, because getting it right and getting it wrong both have consequences, and that pressure exposes how individuals and teams really behave.Enduring organisations hold a stable core of purpose and stewardship alongside a disruptive edge of people who challenge, provoke and push for change.Collective experience of the organisation itself is one of the better predictors of long-term success, which argues for staggered board tenure rather than fixed uniform terms.Architect leaders rebuild for the long term and usually face a confidence crisis in year two, while surgeons cut costs, take the credit and leave the organisation weaker.The vitality index, the share of sales from products developed in the last two years, gives boards a hard number for whether the business will still be relevant in future.Action Points:
Map the tenure profile of your board: Plot when each director joined and when each is due to leave. Look for clusters where most of the organisational memory arrives or departs together, since that is where future risk sits. Aim for overlapping terms so knowledge is handed over rather than lost in one go.Run your own vitality index: Ask management what share of this year's revenue comes from products, services or clients started in the last two years. Set the target from how fast your market moves, from a third for slow-moving sectors to nearly all of it for fast ones. Track it beside profit so cost cutting cannot disguise a stalled business.Decide what you are hiring a chief executive to do: Agree at the outset whether this is a turnaround or a long-term rebuild, because the two need different people and different timeframes. Write down what good looks like in years one and two for a rebuild. That record protects an architect from being judged on a surgeon's scorecard.Rehearse the pressure before it arrives: Put realistic scenarios in front of the executive team and work through each eventuality. The purpose is to keep people thinking clearly when the moment comes rather than reacting. Treat the rehearsal as preparation for a performance, not a compliance exercise.Balance challenge and support consciously: Look at how challenge and support are split across the chair, the board and the executive team. One person rarely carries both well, which is why strong chief executives tend to work in a pair. Decide which the organisation needs most in its current situation, and be explicit about who provides it.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Dean Canham on Boardroom Leadership Beyond Command
2026/09/08
What does leadership look like when nobody in the room can simply give an order?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Lieutenant Colonel Dean Canham OBE, former head of the Centre for Army Leadership, about leading in a setting where authority is collective and the chair has limited unilateral power. Dean sets out the Army's definition of leadership as character, knowledge and action that inspires others to succeed, and explains why he treats leadership as a capability to be trained rather than a by-product of rank.
The conversation lands at a useful moment. Research from the Corporate Governance Institute, based on 500 directors and C-suite leaders across the UK and Ireland, points to a widening gap between boardroom confidence and board readiness, while the Institute of Directors' NEDs Reimagined report argues that boards must move from periodic oversight to active stewardship.
Dean makes the case for followership as the biggest gap in most organisations, explains why he thinks about the room before a difficult conversation, and offers a shortcut for time-poor boards: lead by example.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:31) - From Infantry Command to the Centre for Army Leadership
(08:17) - Professionalising Leadership as a Capability
(11:05) - Gareth Southgate and Leadership Outside the Military
(16:02) - Character, Knowledge, and Action
(20:34) - Followership, the Missing Capability
(23:47) - Ten-Minute Habits That Build Better Leaders
(27:23) - Reading the Room and the Relational View
(33:40) - Collective Leadership at Board Level
(41:11) - Noses In, Fingers Out
(45:36) - Leading in Crisis and War Gaming the Board
(51:23) - A Leadership Framework for Boards
Dean Canham: Lieutenant Colonel Dean Canham OBE is a serving British Army officer, now working in the Ministry of Defence, and the former head of the Centre for Army Leadership at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. Commissioned into the Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters, he has deployed to Northern Ireland, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Estonia and the Falkland Islands, led his battalion's contingent at the 2012 Olympic Games, and commanded the 1 Mercian Battle Group between 2020 and 2023. He was appointed OBE in 2018 for his work on security sector reform in Somalia and South Sudan while at the Permanent Joint Headquarters and the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office. At the Centre for Army Leadership he led the 2024 Leader Competency Framework and wrote the 2025 paper Leading on Leadership, which argues that leadership remains rooted in human interaction but must evolve with its social and operating environment. He is a fellow of the Institute of Leadership and serves on the advisory council of the Coalition for Global Prosperity.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Leadership and management are separate capabilities. Things are managed and people are led, so development aimed at process will not improve how people are led.Followership is the larger gap in most organisations. Training the majority to act as if they own the business reduces how much depends on the few at the top.Boardroom leadership uses the same skills as command, applied differently. Directors switch between self, team and organisational levels inside a single meeting.Leadership is relational as well as situational. Two people in the same meeting can read the same intervention differently, based on trust and shared history.Balance a board on character before skills. If the table is full of directive personalities, the next appointment probably needs to be collaborative.Action Points:
Map the character around your table: Write one or two dominant character traits next to each seat on your board, then note how each person behaves under pressure. Compare that pattern with the decisions the board finds hardest to reach. Use the gaps to shape the next recruitment brief, ahead of sector experience. Train followership, not only leadership: Most development budgets go to the few people at the top, which leaves the majority untrained. Ask your head of talent what the organisation teaches people about proactivity, integrity and speaking up without formal authority. Fund that work and track retention rather than course completions. Be intentional before every room: Take 30 seconds before each meeting to ask what the people in it need from you for the next ten minutes. Change the setting when the conversation calls for it, as Dean does by walking rather than sitting across a desk. Small choices about tone and place shift what people are willing to say. Rehearse the decisions, not the process: Board war games usually test the mechanics, which most organisations already handle well. Build scenarios around values and integrity failures instead, because that is where big organisations come unstuck. Run them often enough that difficult judgement starts to feel familiar. Check what happened further down: After a significant board decision, ask someone several levels below the board what changed for them. If nobody on the board knows, there is a gap in the chain and you need to find where it sits. Put a standing item on the agenda to close that loop.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
What Chairs and Headhunters Really Want From a NED with Marianne Macdonald
2026/09/01
How do board careers actually get made, and how much of that can a candidate control?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Marianne Macdonald, founder and CEO of The 350 Club and The Board Directory, about the hidden board market and why between a half and two thirds of board appointments never involve an intermediary. Marianne spent seven years as a board headhunter at The Zygos Partnership before building three platforms for senior board talent, so she sees both sides of the table.
They look at the myth that you cannot become a NED until you have been one, why a strong executive record does not transfer on its own, and how style, preparation and plain courtesy decide who reaches a shortlist. With Spencer Stuart reporting that just 21% of non-executives appointed across the top 150 FTSE companies in 2025 were first-time directors, down from 44% in 2022, the odds have tightened. Marianne sets out what aspiring NEDs can do while still serving to improve them.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(02:08) - From Journalism to Board Headhunting
(04:37) - The 350 Club, Boardhouse and the Board Directory
(11:50) - External Board Roles as Executive Development
(14:33) - The Myth That You Need a NED Role to Get One
(17:55) - Why a Proven Executive Record Is Not Enough
(20:31) - The Maths of Board Shortlists
(22:28) - Inside the Hidden Board Market
(26:08) - How to Approach a Search Firm
(28:07) - Researchers, LinkedIn and Real Networking
(33:56) - What Makes a NED Candidate Stand Out
(43:47) - Board Trends and When to Start Planning
Marianne Macdonald: Marianne Macdonald is the founder and CEO of The 350 Club, a private members community for board members and executive committee leaders that now has more than 1,000 members and representation across most of the FTSE 100, and of The Board Directory, a closed database of senior board talent searched by leading board and private equity headhunters, launched in 2025. She also founded Non Executive Directorships Consulting in 2016, which has worked with around 350 senior leaders on building non-executive careers, and Boardhouse in 2024 for next-generation leaders below board level. Marianne read English at Oxford and spent around 20 years as a broadsheet journalist before moving into non-executive search at The Zygos Partnership, where she spent seven years; Zygos later became the core of the Russell Reynolds UK board practice. In February 2026, The 350 Club announced an exclusive partnership with FGS Global, adding to a partner group that includes Egon Zehnder, Advent International, BCG, Capgemini, Latham & Watkins and AlixPartners.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Between a half and two thirds of board appointments never reach a headhunter, so private networks and sponsors do more work than any application process.The first commercial non-executive role is the hardest to win, and taking a charity seat purely as a tactic reads as inauthentic to chairs.The odds are longer than most executives expect: shortlists have grown, and everyone on them is already appointable, so style and chemistry decide the outcome.Researchers, not just partners, are the gatekeepers in board search, and their notes on how you behaved stay on the database for years.Technology is now the dominant board recruitment theme, with geopolitical judgement rising and the diversity push of recent years having levelled off.Action Points:
Map your network before you map the roles: List the chairs and board members you already know and, more usefully, the people they know. Ask them for advice rather than introductions, then compound each conversation by asking who else you should meet. Thank people twice, once for the time and once after you have met the person they suggested.Treat the headhunter meeting as the real interview: Prepare for it as you would a chair interview, because a search partner can run you across multiple processes over many years. Know the business in detail and be able to talk about your own career without hesitation. Show what you want to contribute to the board rather than what the board can do for you.Give the researcher your full attention: Researchers comb through thousands of names and decide who reaches the long list. Answer their questions carefully, take the sourcing calls even when the role is not for you, and offer useful names. Their notes on you sit on the database permanently.Build board-relevant credentials while still serving: Volunteer for the committees and work streams tackling the issues boards are wrestling with, such as AI, technology risk or quantum. Consider whether your role title accurately reflects that scope. Marianne is sceptical about paid NED training and school governor roles as shortcuts, so put the effort into evidence instead.Keep your LinkedIn profile current: Headhunters check it as the most up-to-date snapshot of what you are doing, which informs judgements about capacity and conflicts. Fill in the senior roles properly and keep the tone professional. Treat it as a professional record rather than a social platform.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Megan Pantelides on the Uncomfortable 37%
2026/08/25
What should a board change first if only 37% of directors think it is essential to creating value?
Ralph Grayson visits Board Intelligence to talk to Megan Pantelides, author of the Board Value Index, about the third edition of the research. Drawing on more than 400 non-executive directors, chief executives and finance directors across the UK, US, Middle East and, for the first time, the Nordics, it finds that 86% of directors say rigid processes and inconsistent frameworks contributed to a delayed, rushed or poor decision in the past six months.
Megan makes the case that most of this is fixable rather than evidence of a governance crisis. She explains why boards built for oversight now have to balance risk and compliance with strategy, innovation and growth, why two thirds of board packs are rated weak or poor, and how agenda planning quietly determines decision quality. The conversation arrives as updated guidance on effective board reporting from Board Intelligence and the Chartered Governance Institute shows the annual cost of board reporting has risen 177% since 2019.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(02:11) - One Conclusion from the Board Value Index
(04:46) - Underperforming Boards or Unrealistic Expectations
(08:25) - Structures Built for a Different Era
(13:18) - The Uncomfortable 37%
(15:12) - Fixing the Board Pack
(18:37) - Agenda Planning and Board Time
(20:31) - Why Executives Rate Boards More Highly
(27:44) - Deploying AI without Losing Judgement
(33:10) - Less Information, More Insight
(39:39) - AI Readiness and the Pace of Governance
(43:43) - Recommendations for Chairs and NEDs
Megan Pantelides: Megan Pantelides is a senior director at Board Intelligence, where she leads research, content, communications and brand development, and is the author of the Board Value Index. She has more than 20 years of experience across board effectiveness, executive search, private equity and strategy, including nine years at Skillcapital building boards and leadership teams for private equity backed businesses, and earlier work at L.E.K. Consulting. She joined Board Intelligence in 2018, writes and speaks regularly on board effectiveness and the use of AI in governance, and supported the Institute of Directors' commission in 2025. She holds an MA in economics from the University of Cambridge.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Efficient is not the same as effective. Boards that run to time still report rushed and poor decisions.The board pack is the constraint most boards can fix fastest. Two thirds are rated weak or poor, year after year.Boards have been staffed for oversight. Entrepreneurial, scientific and technology experience remains thin across the FTSE 350.Agenda planning is a governance decision. What the chair, chief executive and company secretary schedule determines what the board can influence.AI belongs in preparation and challenge, not in the judgement itself. Only a small minority of boards are ready to use it well.Action Points:
Audit your last board pack: Take the most recent pack and mark each paper as insight or information. Count the pages that told the board something it could act on. Use the result to brief writers on what to cut.Separate efficiency from effectiveness: Ask directors whether any decision in the past six months was delayed, rushed or poor. Record the cause rather than the outcome. Bring it back to the board as a standing measure.Rebuild the annual agenda: Map the conversations the board must have across the year before scheduling the papers. Give strategy, innovation and growth protected time. Check the split against the balance the board says it wants.Test your board's AI readiness: Establish where AI is already used in drafting and reviewing papers, including unofficially. Agree a position on human oversight, transparency, data security and accountability. Write it down before the next cycle.Commission the successor conversation: Ask whether an internal chief executive successor could step in immediately. If not, agree who owns the development plan. Review progress at a named meeting rather than at the next crisis.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Shefaly Yogendra on Boardroom Decision Making under Uncertainty
2026/08/18
Can a board certify judgement, or does judgement only show up under pressure?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Dr Shefaly Yogendra, board director, decision-making researcher and author of Uncharted Spaces: Reset the Agenda. Reimagine the Boardroom, about how boards decide when precedent runs out. Shefaly argues that most boards were designed for a world that no longer exists, that certification gives a novice a baseline but cannot produce boardroom behaviour, and that long experience turns into a liability the moment it is treated as a monolith rather than a set of relevant parts.
The timing matters. A survey of 104 US public company directors found 82% had used generative AI in their board work in the past six months, while only 6% reported a formal policy for board use, according to Corporate Board Member and the Diligent Institute. Shefaly's warning about everyone querying the same tool the same way, and losing the edges of cognitive diversity, lands squarely in that gap.
The conversation also covers messy meetings, board cadence, psychometrics, bravery and how to plan for black sky events.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:16) - The Question behind Uncharted Spaces
(04:35) - Can You Certify Governance?
(08:26) - Propaganda, Beige Opinions and Epistemic Flattening
(10:18) - Governance across Borders and Mandated Change
(12:29) - When Experience Becomes a Liability
(15:38) - Process over Outcome: The Temple Bar Story
(21:04) - Board Cadence and Sampling the Signals
(24:14) - Messy Meetings and Clean Paperwork
(26:56) - Psychometrics, Team Fit and Director Development
(35:06) - Bravery, Stewardship and the Long View
(45:52) - AI, Black Sky Events and Scenario Planning
Shefaly Yogendra: Dr Shefaly Yogendra is a board director, adviser and author working across governance, technology and decision making. She is Senior Independent Director of Temple Bar Investment Trust, where she has served on the board since 2019 and chaired the nomination committee, and a non-executive director of JPMorgan US Smaller Companies Investment Trust, Harmony Energy Income Trust and Witan Investment Services. She has served as an independent governor of London Metropolitan University, chairing its audit and risk committee, and sits on the board of advisers of the Harvard Data Science Review. Her executive career began in technology at HCL and included the role of chief operating officer at explainable AI company Ditto AI. She holds a PhD in decision making from Cambridge, an MBA from IIM Ahmedabad, a master's in technology policy and a first degree in electronics engineering, and was named in the FTSE 100 Women to Watch list in 2016. Her book Uncharted Spaces: Reset the Agenda. Reimagine the Boardroom was published in April 2026 by Practical Inspiration Publishing.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Certification can teach a novice what a board does, but judgement and behaviour only emerge in the room, under pressure, between people.Experience earns its place when directors separate the parts that still describe their sector from the parts that belong to a slower era.Boards should review process after good outcomes as well as bad ones, and let evaluators sit in on real meetings rather than run one round of interviews.Four to six meetings a year samples the business too infrequently; more frequent contact with the signals gives boards a faster response when a crisis lands.Asking the same AI tool the same questions strips out the difference of view that makes board debate worth having.Action Points:
Test your experience for relevance: List the parts of your career that still describe how your sector behaves and the parts that assume slower cycles or older technology. Bring the first to board discussions and retire the second. Directors who skip that distinction fall back on precedent that no longer holds.Review the process when the decision goes well: Reflection usually follows a bad outcome, which teaches a board little about how it actually decides. Schedule a short review after significant decisions that succeeded, separating process from result. Name the factors you controlled and the ones that simply went your way.Change how your board is appraised: Ask your evaluator to observe several board and committee meetings rather than run one round of interviews. Behaviour, disagreement and consensus building are only visible live. Compare what the evaluator sees with what directors say about themselves.Set rules for AI in board work: Agree what directors and executives may put into AI tools, how recordings are retained and deleted, and whether your minutes would survive a match against a recording. Only 6% of directors report a board-specific AI policy in the Corporate Board Member and Diligent Institute survey, so this is still open ground. Decide it before an incident forces the question.Run one black sky scenario this year: Pick a low probability, high impact case and work it through properly, with no email, no internet and no obvious spokesperson. Decide in advance who communicates, who runs business as usual and who leads the response. Preparing for the severe case covers most of the smaller ones on the way.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Dorothy Burwell on Adaptive Capacity and the Human Side of Governance
2026/08/11
Why do some boards freeze the moment pressure arrives, while others adapt and lead? In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Dorothy Burwell, Global Head of Board Advisory at FGS Global and a board director at Post Holdings and Pennon plc, about what she calls adaptive capacity, the ability to learn, unlearn and make sound judgement calls when experience alone is no longer enough.
Dorothy cites Deloitte research showing generative AI-enabled fraud could cost businesses 40 billion US dollars by 2027, up from 12.3 billion in 2023, and explains why boards can no longer treat governance as a quarterly ritual. She sets out a triage framework borrowed from emergency medicine for prioritising risk, unpacks why trust, not process, is usually the first thing to break down in a crisis, and explains how boards can navigate activist campaigns and chair-CEO relationships without stepping into management's lane. This is a practical guide to boardroom human behaviour for any NED building real adaptive capacity.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:18) - A Non-Linear Career from Banking to Board Advisory
(06:33) - FGS Global's Role in the Boardroom Dynamic
(08:33) - Building Trust between Boards and Management
(12:29) - Productive Disagreement and Psychological Safety
(15:53) - Inside the FGS Rewired World Report
(19:06) - Defining Adaptive Capacity for the Boardroom
(22:52) - Spotting an Adaptive Board in Practice
(25:01) - The Boardroom Triage Model for Crisis Decisions
(31:37) - Chair-CEO Trust and Tight-Loose Coupling
(38:24) - AI as Both Threat and Tool for Governance
(43:00) - Activism, Reputation and the FGS Playbook
Dorothy Burwell: Dorothy Burwell is Global Head of Board Advisory and a Partner at FGS Global, where she has spent nearly two decades advising boards, CEOs and leadership teams through transformation, activism, crisis and reputational pressure. She began her career in investment banking at Goldman Sachs, working across the Investment Banking Division and Firmwide Strategy Group in London and New York. Dorothy is an independent non-executive director at Post Holdings, Inc., where she sits on the audit committee, and at Pennon Group Plc, where she chairs the ESG committee and sits on the remuneration, nominations and HSE committees. She is a past trustee of Which?, the UK consumer group, and co-author of the FGS Global paper A Hard Job Getting Harder: The Board's Role in a Rewired World.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
A board is not a team but a "pop-up" group of individuals who meet a handful of times a year, so building human connection quickly matters as much as technical expertise.Trust, not process or data, is usually the first thing to break down when a board crisis unfolds, and everything else unravels from there.A simple triage framework, borrowed from emergency medicine, helps boards prioritise whether to monitor, adapt, react or act on emerging risks.Chair-CEO trust depends on agreeing priorities together and then genuinely letting the CEO execute, rather than the chair becoming heavy-handed under shareholder pressure.Adaptive capacity, the willingness to learn and unlearn, matters more for boards than trying to predict an increasingly unpredictable future.Action Points:
Build your board's decision framework in advance: Agree how the board will triage a crisis before one happens, mapping issues by whether they are gradual or sudden and whether they affect everyone or just your organisation. Practise this with real scenarios, such as a cyber incident or supply chain shock, so people know their roles under pressure. This turns a crisis response from improvisation into rehearsal.Protect trust between board and management: Invest time outside the boardroom building one-to-one relationships with the management contacts closest to your committee work. Use those conversations to understand what they are working on and offer input before papers are finalised, rather than only during meetings. Stronger informal trust leads to more transparent information and better decisions when it matters.Treat AI fluency as a whole-board responsibility: Do not delegate AI oversight to a single AI director or committee member. Ensure every director understands how AI is used in your business and how it could be used against you, given researchers project AI-enabled fraud could reach 40 billion US dollars by 2027. Build this into ongoing board education rather than one-off briefings.Prepare for activist and contentious votes before they arrive: Map out how your board would respond to a contentious AGM vote or activist campaign, including how you would engage retail as well as institutional shareholders. Agree who leads external communication and how management and the board coordinate their message. Early preparation reduces the risk of a public, damaging standoff.Shift board time from reviewing the past to preparing for the future: Challenge your board to spend less time re-litigating historic performance and more time discussing what it is preparing for next. Ask whether your risk register only gets a thorough look once a year, and whether that is frequent enough given the pace of change. A future-facing agenda is a practical expression of adaptive capacity.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Steve Kavanagh on Governance in Elite Sport
2026/08/04
How should a board govern an organisation that its community believes it owns?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Steve Kavanagh, Head of gunnercooke Sport and former chief executive of Millwall Football Club, about what good governance in elite sport actually looks like. Steve draws on 25 years across Charlton Athletic, Southend United and Millwall, plus a term as an elected director of the English Football League, to explain why football is a business with the same metrics and duties as any other, and why emotion makes it far harder to run.
The conversation is timely. Championship clubs recorded combined pre-tax losses of around £317m in their most recent published accounts, as reported by BBC Sport, and the Independent Football Regulator published its final licensing rules and guidance on 1 July 2026. Steve sets out how boards can hold owners to account, separate fandom from judgement, protect the club as a community asset, and prepare for a licensing regime that raises the governance floor across the pyramid.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(01:38) - Governance in Elite Sport
(04:05) - From Chartered Accountant to the Football Boardroom
(08:39) - What Good Governance Looks Like in Sport
(12:06) - Financial Sustainability and Holding Owners to Account
(14:14) - Protecting the Club as a Community Asset
(16:54) - Passion, Emotion and Clear-Headed Judgement
(20:42) - Reining In the Executive Chair
(26:36) - Advice for Aspiring Sports Board Members
(30:49) - Lessons from the EFL, the FA and the Regulator
(35:46) - The Regulator and Football's Funding Problem
(41:12) - Media Rights and Global Investment
Steve Kavanagh: Steve Kavanagh is Head of gunnercooke Sport and an Operating Partner at the international commercial law firm gunnercooke, where he launched the firm's specialist sport division in February 2025. A chartered accountant who trained at BDO, he spent 25 years in professional football, joining Charlton Athletic as finance director before serving as chief executive of Southend United and then Millwall, where he led the club for eight years from 2016 and oversaw promotion to the Championship in his first season. Alongside his executive roles he was an elected non-executive director on the English Football League board and a member of the FA Council, the Professional Game Board and vice chairman of the FA Cup Committee, contributing to the reforms that led to the creation of the game's independent regulator. He now advises clubs, athletes and sports businesses on governance, commercial strategy, compliance and disputes across football, rugby, cricket, tennis, boxing and the NFL.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Governance in sport is less about compliance language and more about good practice, good metrics, good communication and enough experience around the board table to cover every part of the club.On-field ambition and off-field sustainability are one problem, not two. The board's real work sits in the bridge between them, where overspending on wages turns competitive hope into financial fragility.Treating the club as a community asset gives the board a durable platform. Community trust survives relegation, and it is what a club grows back from when results turn.Emotion belongs in sport, but boards need directors who can separate support from judgement, resist getting too close to the manager and challenge decisions made in the heat of competition.Keeping a good owner in place for the long term is itself a governance outcome. Boards that can pull a chair back protect the club from the cycle of chasing a new investor every few years.Action Points:
Separate the fan from the director: Before joining a sports board, write down why you want the role and what you will contribute beyond enthusiasm. Ask whether you would still be effective in a relegation season. Boards need directors who can hold judgement steady when everyone around them is emotionally invested.Stress test the funding model, not just the budget: Ask management to show how the club would operate if player sales dried up for a season. Championship clubs lost around £317m in their most recent published accounts, as reported by BBC Sport. Treat trading income as volatile rather than recurring.Make the owner explain the strategy: Require a written statement of the ownership's ambition, the spend it implies and the commitment behind it if performance disappoints. Minute the answer. A confident owner will welcome the discipline, and the club is protected if circumstances change.Prepare early for licensing: The Independent Football Regulator published its final licensing rules and guidance on 1 July 2026. Review your board papers, minutes and liquidity evidence now. Clubs that formalise oversight before deadlines will spend less time and money proving it later.Audit the skills you are missing: Map your board against financial acumen, corporate governance, community engagement and commercial rights expertise. Recruit against the gaps rather than the network. Build development pathways so a wider pool becomes genuinely appointable over the next few seasons.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Psychological Safety in the Boardroom with Andrew Seerden
2026/07/28
What happens when a board only hears what it is allowed to hear?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Andrew Seerden, an independent director and Growth Advisory Board chair based in Auckland, about why boards fail on information rather than intelligence. Drawing on a live case, a $350 million New Zealand B2B business whose long-serving CEO delivered growth while running a culture of fear, Andrew explains why psychological safety is a governance design task for the chair, not a cultural aspiration for HR.
The timing matters. PwC's latest board effectiveness survey found that 41% of executives rate their boards as excellent or good, yet only 17% of those who rarely interact with the board say the same, a perception gap that tends to surface only under real pressure. Andrew sets out the mechanics that close it: board charters that codify noses in, fingers out, independent and dotted-line reporting channels, directors visiting sites without asking permission, and a collaboration contract that defines trust with the CEO in advance. Silence, he argues, is the signal chairs should never ignore.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(04:20) - A Third Career in Governance and Advisory Boards
(07:20) - Psychological Safety as Governance Design
(09:43) - Information Distortion and the Danger of Silence
(13:15) - Structures That Surface the Truth
(14:20) - Bypassing the CEO Without Undermining the Role
(17:36) - Safety Is Not Comfort and the Warm Bath Illusion
(18:35) - When Chair and CEO Become Too Cosy
(21:53) - The Kelp Exercise and Staying Centred
(28:55) - Yellow Cards and Depersonalising Conflict
(31:35) - The Collaboration Contract and Final Takeaways
Andrew Seerden: Andrew Seerden is an independent director and Growth Advisory Board chair based in Auckland, New Zealand, and the founder of Seerden Board Partners, a board and governance advisory practice working with founders, owners, CxOs and chairs in New Zealand and internationally. He brings 30 years of senior commercial leadership in B2B businesses, including senior roles at Hewlett-Packard, Compaq and IBM across New Zealand and the Netherlands, and spent 11 years as Chair of the Board of Trustees at the national charity StarJam, guiding it through scale, financial restructuring and founder-CEO succession. Through Seerden Board Partners and Fresh Perspectives he advises on board effectiveness, advisory board design, commercial growth and CEO counsel, and he writes regularly on governance for a board-level audience. He holds an MBA from Newport University, Utrecht.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Boards rarely fail on intelligence; they fail on unfiltered information, which makes information flow a design problem rather than a personality problem.Silence in the boardroom is a risk indicator. Unanimous sign-off with no debate suggests people do not feel safe to challenge, whether the constraint comes from the CEO or the chair.Independent and dotted-line reporting channels only work when they are transparent and codified, otherwise they become a backdoor for gossip rather than a governance mechanism.The kelp exercise, borrowed from chair Maggie Wilderotter, gives boards a shared signal for delivering bad news and requires the chair to stay centred, listen without a knee-jerk reaction and avoid shooting the messenger.A collaboration contract, agreed with the CEO in advance, defines explicitly what trust, communication and the handling of difficult information will look like before a crisis tests them.Action Points:
Codify noses in, fingers out: Put the boundary between governance and management in writing in the board charter rather than leaving it to custom. Set out what directors may do without asking permission, including site visits and conversations below the executive line. Review the charter annually so it reflects how the board actually operates.Design the channels before you need them: Agree independent routes for information now, whether that is dotted-line reporting, a whistleblower programme, the company secretary or an independent evaluator. Document who may use each channel and how it is handled. Transparency is what stops these routes being read as disloyalty to the CEO.Treat silence as an agenda item: When a significant proposal passes without challenge, ask why. Andrew's test is simple: no debate on trade-offs is a signal, not a success. Build a habit of asking each director for a dissenting view before any material decision is confirmed.Write a collaboration contract with your CEO: Have the direct conversation about expectations, communication rhythm and the handling of bad news, then document what you agree. Revisit it after any incident where information reached the board late. Treat resistance to the conversation as diagnostic rather than personal.Rehearse how you receive bad news: Adopt a shared signal, such as the kelp cue or a yellow card, that any member can use to flag difficult news or unproductive behaviour. Practise responding with questions rather than blame. Consistency here is what earns the trust that makes disclosure possible.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Sallie Pilot on Aligning Boards, Investors and Long-Term Value
2026/07/21
How well do boards really understand the system that owns and funds them?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Sallie Pilot, Managing Director of the Investor and Issuer Forum, about why the investment chain has become a core governance responsibility rather than an investor relations afterthought. They explore how capital can flow through as many as eight layers between an asset owner and a company, why boards often misread the signals they receive, and how chairs can build trust through genuine, two-way dialogue rather than scripted, one-way updates.
With UK equities drawing renewed interest amid record share buybacks and a fresh wave of takeover bids for London-listed companies, according to Morningstar, the conversation could not be more timely. Sallie explains the thinking behind the Investor and Issuer Compass, a practical framework for alignment across the chain, and why materiality, not the volume of disclosure, should shape how boards handle ESG. From pass-through voting to stewardship in 2026, this is a practical roadmap for NEDs who want to understand how they are owned, evaluated and funded.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:36) - Inside the Investor and Issuer Forum
(05:29) - Why the Investment Chain Is a Board Issue
(07:30) - Should the Board Own Investor Engagement?
(09:22) - Where Boards and Investors Misalign
(15:28) - Who Really Owns Your Company?
(19:56) - What Investors Want to Hear from Boards
(24:19) - Valuation, Governance and Long-Term Value
(25:54) - Building the Investor and Issuer Compass
(28:14) - Stewardship and the Myth of One Investor Voice
(32:13) - ESG, Materiality and Better Decisions
(41:54) - Technology, AI and the Future of Ownership
Sallie Pilot: Sallie Pilot is Managing Director of the Investor and Issuer Forum, a practitioner-led initiative launched in 2024 to improve how the UK equity market functions by strengthening engagement across the investment chain. Set up by the Investor Forum, supported by the London Stock Exchange and backed by the Financial Reporting Council, the Forum brings together asset owners, asset managers and the chairs of listed companies. A specialist in corporate reporting, governance, stewardship and stakeholder engagement, Sallie was previously an owner and executive director of the stakeholder communications firm Black Sun. She sits on the FRC's Stakeholder Insight Group and Financial Reporting Lab Steering Committee and has served on the board of the Investor Relations Society, giving her a rare cross-market view of how boards, investors and regulators interact.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Governance no longer stops at the boardroom door; it extends into the capital system, so boards must understand how they are owned, evaluated and funded.The UK's biggest capital market frictions stem from misalignment across the investment chain, not a lack of intent, and boards can influence that misalignment.Capital can pass through around eight layers between an asset owner and a company, distorting the signals boards receive about what investors really want.ESG matters most when it shapes strategy, capital allocation and decisions, not when it simply adds to the volume of disclosure; materiality should be the filter.Investors value honesty over polish, so boards that explain their reasoning, including why they do not comply, build trust in a comply or explain market.Action Points:
Know who your investors really are: Map the layers between your company and its ultimate asset owners, and understand how mandates and incentives shape the signals you receive. Treat this as a standing board agenda item rather than a one-off investor relations exercise. The clearer your picture of ownership, the more confidently the board can act.Make engagement purposeful, not routine: Decide why a conversation with investors is happening and whether you are being reactive or deliberate. Do not read a lack of investor interest as a snub, as it often signals comfort with your strategy. Reserve chair and committee-chair engagement for moments of genuine decision-making or information exchange.Lead with materiality on ESG: Focus reporting and oversight on the issues that genuinely affect long-term performance and licence to operate. Resist the pull to chase every framework and metric, which obscures what really drives value. Show investors how material issues are managed and monitored, not merely disclosed.Explain, do not just comply: Use the comply or explain regime as a strength by setting out the reasoning behind board decisions and any departures from the code. Investors consistently say they want the explanation and the context, not box-ticking. Clear, honest explanations build trust and usually earn support.Get externally fluent on technology: Build the board's understanding of how AI, pass-through voting and tokenisation are reshaping ownership, voting and engagement. Keep the company's story consistent across every channel and spokesperson. Treat continuous, coherent dialogue with the market as a growing expectation rather than an occasional event.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
Alexander Denny on Discounts, Activism and the Modern Investment Trust Board
2026/07/15
What does it mean to sit on an investment trust board when discounts, activism and shareholder scrutiny are no longer exceptional events?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Alexander Denny, an experienced investment company executive and non-executive director, about the changing demands placed on investment trust boards. Alex draws on his work with Fidelity, Pantheon, Apax Global Alpha, Aurora UK Alpha, Margetts Fund Management and the Association of Investment Companies to explain why these roles are increasingly active, time-intensive and strategically important.
The discussion feels especially timely as Saba Capital’s campaign against UK investment trusts continues to test the sector’s governance model, while recent reporting notes that private investor ownership of investment trusts has risen to 27% according to Investment Week. Alex explores how boards should think about discounts, manager accountability, retail engagement, board evaluation, CPD and reputational risk.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(03:30) - From Strategic Challenge to Boardroom Reality
(07:15) - Moving from Fidelity to a Portfolio Career
(12:13) - What the IoD Commission Found About NEDs
(17:33) - CPD, Certification and Director Accountability
(19:54) - The Levers Available to Investment Trust Boards
(25:04) - Influence, Relationships and Shareholder Engagement
(30:02) - What First-Time Investment Trust NEDs Should Check
(32:34) - Saba, Activism and Sector Governance
(41:06) - Discounts, Valuation and Liquidity Risk
(44:21) - How Boards Add Value Beyond Performance
(51:55) - The Future of Investment Trust Board Roles
Alexander Denny: Alex Denny is an experienced non-executive director, trustee and consultant with deep expertise in investment trusts, private equity, private wealth and public markets. He joined the board of the Association of Investment Companies in 2022 and became an independent non-executive director of Aurora UK Alpha plc in January 2026. Alex is also an independent non-executive director of Margetts Fund Management, leads the investment companies board hiring practice at Nurole and serves as a trustee of the Nautical Archaeology Society. He was previously Managing Director, European Private Wealth at Pantheon and Head of Investment Companies at Fidelity International, giving him direct experience of investment company governance from both the executive and non-executive sides.Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Investment trust boards are no longer passive stewardship bodies; they increasingly need to show judgement, challenge and visible engagement with managers and shareholders.The shareholder is also the customer in an investment company, which makes communication, retail engagement and discount management core board concerns.Activism can help address poor governance or persistent discounts, but the Saba campaigns show how the sector’s structure can create unusual vulnerabilities.A good NED needs curiosity, sector interest and enough time to build relationships beyond formal board meetings.Board evaluation and ongoing professional development are becoming more important as expectations of NED skill, evidence and accountability rise.Action Points:
Test your real interest: Before pursuing an investment trust board role, ask whether you are genuinely curious about the company, its asset class and its shareholder base. If the subject does not interest you, it will be hard to bring the energy and judgement the role now demands. Treat motivation as part of your due diligence, not a soft extra.Assess the discount story: Look beyond the headline discount and ask why it exists, who is selling and whether the board has a credible plan to communicate value. Consider whether underperformance is cyclical, structural or linked to weak shareholder engagement. Use this analysis to judge whether you can add value or are walking into unmanaged risk.Build relationships before a crisis: Investment trust NEDs should know the portfolio manager, chair, IR lead, marketing team and key service providers before pressure arrives. These relationships help boards spot problems early and influence constructively. Waiting until activism or poor performance escalates makes effective challenge much harder.Evidence your development: Keep a clear record of relevant CPD, seminars, courses and sector briefings. Alex notes that the UK has limited formal qualification requirements for company directors, which makes self-discipline and evidence of competence more important. Boards should be able to show that directors are keeping pace with market and governance expectations.Treat activism as plausible, not remote: Do not assume an investment trust board will face activism, but do not assume it will avoid it either. Recent Saba campaigns and reporting on rising private investor ownership from Investment Week show why shareholder communication and voting engagement now deserve board-level attention.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
From Passion to Governance in Elite Sport with Tony Simpson
2026/07/08
How should boards govern sport when it is now both a cultural institution and a global asset class?
In this episode of The Boardroom Path, host Ralph Grayson speaks with Tony Simpson, Partner and Sports Industry Lead at Oliver Wyman, about why governance in elite sport has not always kept pace with the money, complexity and scrutiny now flowing through the sector. Tony explains why investors increasingly expect the same professional disciplines they would demand in any other asset class: strong boards, independent challenge, credible financial controls and clear accountability.
The conversation is especially timely. The World Economic Forum and Oliver Wyman report values the global sports economy at $2.3 trillion and projects it could reach $8.8 trillion by 2050, while the UK’s new football regulatory regime is making governance a direct investment variable.
From community representation and women’s sport to succession planning, owner accountability and social cohesion, Tony sets out what modern sports boards need to understand before they take their seats.
(00:00) - Welcome to The Boardroom Path
(01:12) - Governance in Elite Sport
(03:17) - Sport as a Global Asset Class
(06:04) - Private Capital and Governance Catch-Up
(09:46) - Why Sport Is Different From Other Sectors
(13:32) - Building the Right Sports Board
(17:33) - Transferring Governance Skills Into Sport
(20:46) - Holding Owners Accountable
(24:23) - Designing the Ideal Modern Sports Board
(29:47) - Sport as a Regulated Utility
(33:18) - Skills and Social Empathy for Sports Leaders
(35:20) - Why Join a Sports Board
Tony Simpson: Tony Simpson is a Partner and Sports Industry Lead at Oliver Wyman, where he works in the firm’s Communications, Media and Technology practice and leads its Sports and Entertainment work. He advises sports organisations, federations, leagues and investors on international expansion, commercial sustainability, governance, digital change and the role of private capital in sport. Tony is a former Board Advisor to Special Olympics Great Britain, an Independent Observer to the English Rugby Football Union Governance Review, a trustee and board member at Birmingham Museums Trust and a trustee at Drive Forward. In 2023, he was recognised in the Empower 100 Executives Role Model List."If people are putting hundreds of millions of dollars into an asset or a club, you have to have some independence in there that has the ability to say no and the authority to say no." Tony Simpson, Partner and Sports Industry Lead at Oliver Wyman.
Ralph Grayson: Ralph Grayson is a Partner in the Board Practice at Sainty Hird & Partners, bringing extensive experience in board-level recruitment, assessment, and advisory services. With a deep understanding of the corporate governance landscape, Ralph specialises in guiding senior executives as they transition into impactful boardroom careers. His thoughtful approach, combined with a passion for developing effective leaders, enables him to facilitate insightful conversations that equip aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors with the tools they need to succeed. Through The Boardroom Path, Ralph leverages his extensive professional network and expertise to empower listeners on their journey into the boardroom.
Episode Insights:
Sport is now comparable in scale to major global sectors, but many governance structures still reflect its amateur and community origins.Private capital is forcing sports organisations to demonstrate stronger oversight, clearer financial controls and more professional boards.Passion can be a governance risk when owners, executives or directors allow emotional attachment to override evidence-based decision-making.Independent directors matter because sports boards need people with the authority and judgement to challenge both management and ownership.Diverse, compensated boards can help clubs understand their communities more effectively and unlock both social and commercial value.Action Points:
Map the board skills you actually need: Start with the organisation’s future risks, opportunities and stakeholder pressures. Identify the financial, regulatory, digital, community and sporting expertise required. Build the board around those needs, not around status, tenure or historic connection to the club.Separate passion from governance: Test whether board decisions are being driven by evidence or emotion. Passion for the sport can bring commitment, but it should not override financial discipline, succession planning or long-term stewardship. Use independent voices to challenge assumptions before major commitments.Strengthen owner accountability: Review how the board oversees ownership risk, not just executive performance. Ask what happens if an owner cannot or will not keep funding the club. Treat financial resilience, liquidity and succession as governance issues, not private owner matters.Use community insight commercially: Put genuine community understanding into the boardroom and compensate people properly for their contribution. Diverse perspectives can reveal unmet demand, stronger fan relationships and new revenue opportunities. Community representation should have a clear role, not token status.Prepare for regulated sport: Boards should assume that scrutiny will increase as capital flows into sport and regulation matures. The Football Governance Act and the Independent Football Regulator show how governance is becoming an investment variable. Directors need to understand compliance, licensing and financial sustainability before problems arise.The Boardroom Path is the essential podcast for aspiring and newly appointed Non-Executive Directors (NEDs) navigating the journey from executive leadership to the boardroom. Hosted by Ralph Grayson, partner at Sainty Hird & Partners, each episode offers insightful conversations with industry leaders, seasoned board directors, and governance experts. Our guests share practical strategies, valuable perspectives, and actionable advice on how to effectively transition into board roles, maximise your impact, and build a rewarding NED career.
Subscribe now, and take your first confident step along The Boardroom Path. Learn more about Sainty Hird & Partners at saintyhird.com.
The Boardroom Path is produced by Story Ninety-Four in Oxford, UK.
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