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Speak With Our Team: https://summit7.us/contactCMMC phase 2 is suspended, but what does that actually mean for defense contractors?In this episode, we sit down with government contracts attorney Eric Crusius to talk legal and regulatory questions around the phase 2 suspension. If you're a defense contractors trying to make sense of the noise, this is a deep dive into the issues that matter most. We answer:• Can the DoD CIO actually change CMMC without formal rulemaking?• What does the DFARS class deviation mean for NIST SP 800-171 Rev. 2?• What happens if FAR CUI moves to Rev. 3 while DoD remains on Rev. 2?• Can prime contractors still require CMMC from their subcontractors during the suspension?• Why the distinction between CMMC and the underlying security requirements matters• How FAR CUI could affect the future of CMMC• Why multiple security baselines could create more cost and complexity for small businesses• What contractors should be watching as the regulatory landscape continues to evolveThe conversation explores what the DoD CIO can and cannot do as well as the tension between the push for a single, government-wide security baseline and recent signals that the DoD could move in a different direction.Connect with Eric: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericcrusius/Connect with Daniel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Jacob: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-evan-horne/Find Your CMMC Compliance Path in Under 5 Minutes: https://summit7.us/pathfinder

Find Your CMMC Compliance Path in Under 5 Minutes: https://summit7.us/pathfinderEven with phase 2 in review, CMMC isn't ending. In fact, the requirements are getting harder. In this episode, Daniel sits down with Fernando Machado, Managing Principal and CISO at CyberSec Investments (one of the first accredited C3PAOs), to discuss what he shared directly with the DoW CIO following recent meetings in Washington. They break down: • Why the "$600,000 CMMC assessment" claim is misleading • The difference between implementation costs and assessment costs • What could change after the current CMMC review • Potential grants, tax incentives, and other proposals for small businesses • Why most companies are still moving forward with certification • How FAR CUI could expand cybersecurity requirements across the federal supply chain • Why continuous monitoring and additional controls may be coming nextConnect with Daniel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Fernando: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fernando-machado-cissp-cism-cca-ccp-5b5581124/Learn more: https://summit7.us/

The recent DoD CIO memo pausing CMMC Phase 2 certification raises a lot of questions. Is CMMC going away? Should contractors stop preparing? The answer to those is ‘no.’ In this episode, we're joined by Brett Cox, Principal of the Cybersecurity Oversight Office and DAF/CMMC Program Management Office at Boeing, to break down the latest developments and explain what the DoD's announcement actually means for contractors. Brett shares insights from his recent meeting with DoD CIO leadership and explains why this isn’t the end of CMMC. We explore the future of CMMC, the growing focus on resiliency and Zero Trust, upcoming FAR CUI requirements, and why independent C3PAO assessments continue to provide value even during the current review period.In this episode, we discuss:• The DoD CIO's CMMC Phase 2 suspension memo• Why CMMC is paused—not canceled• What contractors should be doing during the review period• Why NIST SP 800-171 compliance remains mandatory• FAR CUI and its potential impact on federal contractors• C3PAO certifications, self-assessments, and False Claims Act considerations• The future of CMMC, Zero Trust, and cybersecurity modernizationConnect with Daniel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Brett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-r-cox/Learn more: https://summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Michael McLaughlin, Shareholder | Co-Lead, Cybersecurity and Data Privacy | Cyber Policy Advisor | Co-Author, Battlefield Cyber: How China and Russia are Undermining our Democracy and National SecurityIn episode 17 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Michael discuss organizational risks with CMMC, DFARS 7012, & FCA, Michael's book Battlefield Cyber, and more! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Michael here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-g-mclaughlin/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Dawn Stern, Global Co-Chair, Government Contracts Practice at DLA Piper.In episode 16 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Dawn discuss SPRS scores, CMMC & DFARS risks, supply chain flowdown, and more, be sure to listen in! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Dawn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawn-stern/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Rob Groome, CIO at USC Institute for Creative Technologies.In episode 15 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Rob discuss scoping & implementation pain points, L2 certification process, and so much more! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Rob here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgroome/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Christian Schleipfer, Director of Information Security, Gilbane. In episode 14 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Christian discuss AEC & CMMC, challenges people face in the industry on their compliance journey, and so much more! Be sure to tune into the full episode to hear everything they have to say. Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Christian here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianschleipfer/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Steven A. Casazza, President, Defense Trade Solutions. In episode 13 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Steven cover CUI vs ITAR, industry horror stories just in time for Halloween and so much more! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Steven here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scasazza/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with the Modus Advanced Team. In episode 12 of That CMMC Show Daniel & the Modus team share their stories about their CMMC journey, things to look out for in yours, and what their assessment experience was like. Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Learn more about Modus Advanced: https://www.modusadvanced.com/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with John Kronick, CISO, Tutor Perini.In episode 11 of That CMMC Show Daniel & John discuss CMMC assessments, when to start planning, and more! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with John here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-kronick-b907ab/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Register for Secure The DIB: https://www.summit7.us/secure-the-dib-2025Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Brett Cox, DFARS/CMMC Cybersecurity Program Management Office Principal at Boeing.In episode 10 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Brett discuss what type of CMMC requirements to expect as a subcontractor, certification or self-assessment, and so much more! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Brett here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-r-cox/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Register for Secure The DIB: https://www.summit7.us/secure-the-dib-2025Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Kellie Tomeo, Senior Counsel at Montrose Environmental.In episode 9 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Kellie discuss good examples of what is CUI, "descoping" CUI, communicating CMMC risk upstream to executives & so much more! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Kellie here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellie-tomeo-3b4961a/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Jeff Smedley, Ret. Vice President and CIOIn episode 8 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Jeff discuss CMMC non-compliance from a board or shareholder perspective, the ROI of CMMC, and so much more. Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Jeff here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsmedley/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Ryan Bonner, DEFCERT, CEO. In episode 7 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Ryan discuss CUI by Industry (manufacturing, AEC, research), managing people who don't know what CUI is, supply chain & more. Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Ryan here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rybonner/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/

Sit down with Daniel Akridge, CMMC CCP, Summit 7, while he talks with Dylan Owen, Nightwing, CISOIn episode 6 of That CMMC Show Daniel & Dylan discuss CMMC conversations with executives, recommended security requirements above CMMC, and more! Connect with Daniel here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielakridge/Connect with Dylan here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-owen-cissp-issep-issmp-gnfa-gcfa-b90b4b6/Learn more about Summit 7 and how we can help you on your CMMC journey here: https://www.summit7.us/