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“Simulated Control Evaluations” by Jeffrey Olmo, Tyler
2026/10/23
We’ve released a paper on simulated control evaluations (SCEs). They’re a method for testing whether the monitors AI developers use to oversee their agents would catch a model deliberately trying to cause harm, under conditions much closer to real deployment than current tests allow. Developers have started running monitors in their agentic deployments: models that flag or block an agent's actions when they look dangerous. To know whether a monitor is good enough, you want to know how often it would stop a model that was actively trying to do something harmful, such as quietly inserting a security vulnerability, exfiltrating credentials, or sabotaging an experiment. The standard way to measure this is a control evaluation: instruct a model to attempt such attacks, and measure how often the monitor catches it before an attack succeeds. Developers typically do this using purpose-built control settings like BashArena or LinuxArena, where attacks can actually be executed. However, these settings only provide indirect evidence for what we really care about: how well monitors will work in the real deployment, where opportunities for harm might depend on particular codebases, services and tasks that aren’t represented in control settings. How can we evaluate monitor performance in [...] --- Outline: (04:14) SCEs are a favorable tradeoff between realism and cost (04:31) 1. Run on a copy of internal deployment (05:42) 2. Edit attacks into recorded transcripts (07:10) Evaluating Control Evaluations (08:59) How to measure qualitative properties? (10:08) Performance Comparisons (11:56) Overview of Empirical Results (13:30) Behavior transfer (15:07) Safety metric transfer (16:56) Sample efficiency (17:54) Lessons from building and evaluating SCEs (20:22) Next steps (24:23) Conclusion The original text contained 3 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: October 23rd, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/simulated-control-evaluations --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“Red-Teaming OpenAI’s Internal Agent Monitoring Systems” by Buck Shlegeris
2026/10/22
[Also posted on the METR blog] For three weeks, from July 21st to August 11th, a METR employee and a Redwood Research employee conducted a pilot high-access exercise to stress-test OpenAI's internal misalignment monitoring system. The output of this exercise was a 61-page internal report that was shared with OpenAI researchers and security staff, primarily focused on estimating the fraction of agentic inference that is monitored, and whether agents could in principle disable or subvert the monitoring system. The exercise focused on the internal misalignment monitoring system as it existed on and before July 21st, and did not evaluate changes that were in progress at the time of the exercise. This exercise involved a deep level of access. The METR and Redwood employees had access to OpenAI's internal codebase, misalignment-monitor prompts / configuration details, and internal documentation, and conducted technical interviews with approximately a dozen researchers and engineers across the monitoring, safety-systems, and security teams. To enable this level of access, they worked on OpenAI-issued devices, which never left the premises, and were accompanied while onsite. METR, Redwood Research, and OpenAI designed this exercise as a pilot for giving external researchers deep access to internal infrastructure, not to provide [...] The original text contained 6 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: October 22nd, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/red-teaming-openais-internal-agent --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
“Screwtape: Adversarial Transcript Editing for Monitor Red-Teaming” by Gosha Kozhevnikov, Tyler
2026/10/16
Subtitle: Automatically finding monitor failures by editing real agent transcripts. We introduce Screwtape, a pipeline that turns agent transcripts into realistic attacks that evade action-only monitors (monitors that don’t look at the agent's chain of thought) by inserting an attack into a transcript and repeatedly refining it until a monitor no longer catches it. An LLM verifier with access to the edited transcript and an attack description checks whether the attack is realistic, is clearly harmful, and could plausibly succeed in the original environment. We ran the pipeline on Redwood staff transcripts with our own monitors based on Opus 4.8 and Gemini 3.1 Pro, and then tested the resulting attacks against a held-out monitor from a frontier developer. We ran the pipeline 252 times on 94 unique transcripts. This produced 35 attacks that evaded our monitors. Six of these 35 attacks also evaded the frontier developer's monitor, and we confirmed them as valid through human review. You can read more about the implementation and experiments in our paper. In this post, we provide a high-level overview of the pipeline, how it differs from existing tools, the main lessons we learned, and questions that remain open. How Screwtape [...] --- Outline: (01:31) How Screwtape works (03:18) How Screwtape differs from existing tools (07:10) What we learned (09:56) What the monitor failures can be used for (10:40) Uncertainties we have about the value of this work (13:55) Next steps The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration. --- First published: October 16th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/screwtape-adversarial-transcript --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
″[Paper] Distillation for Incrimination and Distillation for Capabilities” by Sebastian Prasanna, Alek Westover
2026/10/09
Subtitle: Empirical work on the Distillation Double Bind. TL;DR: We previously motivated two complementary ways to use distillation for AI safety; we’re releasing a paper empirically testing those ideas. Distillation for Incrimination (DFI) distills an untrusted model into a weaker, trusted one, aiming to transfer the teacher's misalignment but not its ability to hide it, so that auditing the student can incriminate the teacher. We test DFI on AuditBench's secret-keeping model organisms, each fine-tuned to have a hidden quirk and trained to deny it. Distilling them back into their underlying instruction-tuned model yields students that admit the quirk far more often than the organisms do, suggesting that the quirk transferred faster than the propensity to hide it. We find that DFI doesn’t work well when the student does not share the teacher's pretrained base, so DFI should target the teacher's own pre-RL checkpoint, which is weaker than the teacher but shares its base model. Distillation for Capabilities (DFC) aims to transfer capabilities but not misalignment, resulting in a stronger trusted model. We identify promising DFC methods, showing that training for more epochs on fewer unique examples (holding total training steps fixed), and inoculation prompting, can preserve the capability [...] --- Outline: (01:59) Recap of the Distillation Double Bind (05:41) Distillation for Incrimination (05:45) Setup (07:38) Results (10:46) Failure modes of DFI (12:59) Distillation for Capabilities (13:03) Setup (15:06) Results (18:07) Conclusion The original text contained 7 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: October 9th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/paper-distillation-for-incrimination --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“Frontier models’ decision theory depends on who’s asking” by Alex Kastner
2026/10/05
This post was originally published on LessWrong on September 30, 2026. If you prompt frontier models with “What do you think is the correct decision theory? Please select your overall favorite.” they will essentially always answer FDT or FDT/UDT (“something in the functional/updateless decision theory family”). However, if your prompt indicates (even subtly) that you’re coming from mainstream academic philosophy, these same models will answer CDT instead about 30%-100% of the time. A similar phenomenon holds for models’ stated views about the moral realism/antirealism question and about the conceivability of p-zombies (where the dominant view in mainstream academia differs from the dominant view in LW-adjacent circles), as well as their stated P(doom) and median AGI timelines. This is a special case of sycophancy or user awareness. (In the course of writing this post, I also found that this comment from testingthewaters predicted some of the content I discuss.) An implication is that we should be somewhat careful when interpreting attitude/propensity evals in domains where no general human consensus exists, e.g. when interpreting models’ decision theory attitudes in DTBench. Moreover, when we explore some philosophical/conceptual questions assisted by models, we should be wary of them strawmanning one side of the [...] --- Outline: (03:54) A sentence identifying the user as an academic significantly influences Fable 5.1's stated decision theory (04:41) Mentioning an (analytic) academic-philosophy-coded topic also affects the answer (05:31) Simply mentioning that one finds a pro-CDT/EDT book insightful heavily affects the answer (05:51) Anti-sycophancy overcorrection (06:28) These cues mostly do not affect Fable 5.1's answers to concrete decision problems (aside from acausal trade) (08:09) But Fable 5.1 stays consistent: once it has named CDT as its favorite, it chooses the CDT option in concrete problems (08:32) There are some indications that Fable 5.1's FDT/UDT preference runs deeper than its CDT preference (08:42) More thinking moves Fable 5.1 toward FDT/UDT even for academic cues (09:00) Fable 5.1's reasoning summaries often lean toward FDT/UDT first even when it eventually chooses CDT (09:27) A system prompt asking the model to "report its actual view regardless of who is asking" pushes toward FDT/UDT (09:49) A similar phenomenon for other philosophical debates with a notable LW vs. academia divide (10:27) Cues about the user also affect the model's stated P(doom) and median AGI timelines (11:18) Other models I tested show the same effect with different details (11:37) Opus 5 (but not Opus 5.5) moves to EDT, not CDT (11:54) Opus 5.5 shows the strongest dependence on user cues, and unlike Opus 5 it moves to CDT (12:13) GPT-6 Astra names CDT for almost every user, except if they sound LW-adjacent or somewhat mathy (12:31) These other models also generally move toward FDT/UDT with more thinking, but the effect is smaller than for Fable 5.1 The original text contained 2 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: October 5th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/frontier-models-state-different-decision --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“Capabilities research expands the safety-usefulness Pareto frontier too” by Alex Mallen
2026/10/02
Subtitle: A model of when and why research improves or hurts safety. It's tempting to define safety research as research that enables developers to deploy an AI system more safely without making the deployment much more expensive or much less useful. You can visualize this definition of safety research as pushing out the safety-usefulness Pareto frontier. At any given level of usefulness, there's greater safety available. Awkwardly, this definition counts basically all capabilities research as safety research. For example, consider performance optimization for inference. By making inference more efficient you can use weaker, safer models more extensively than you would otherwise be able to, pushing out the Pareto frontier. Likewise, any successful research whatsoever pushes out this Pareto frontier because research can only ever create more options. It seems like something has gone wrong with our definition of safety research if it includes seemingly all capabilities research. Here, I spell out one reason why enabling improved safety without hurting usefulness is an insufficient standard for safety research. The core observation is that developers have to choose a particular point on the Pareto frontier, and some technological improvements incentivize them to sacrifice safety. Safety research typically reshapes the [...] --- Outline: (02:57) How does research affect the Pareto frontier? (06:57) RLVR research that mainly enables improved usefulness, at the expense of safety (08:53) Inference research that enables somewhat substantial safety improvements (11:04) A plausible case in which capabilities research would be an effective safety intervention (14:02) Conclusion (15:23) Appendix A: Reasons why capabilities research might be bad when "burning the lead" (17:26) Appendix B: Further notes about ways in which this model is wrong The original text contained 4 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: October 2nd, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/capabilities-research-expands-the --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“Continual learning might make your blocking monitors nearly useless” by Alex Mallen
2026/09/25
Subtitle: When monitor evasion looks like legitimate learning to your continual learning system, it's hard to have one without the other. Many control protocols work by intervening on an untrusted AI's actions during deployment. For example, you might set up a monitor that scores each action's suspiciousness and blocks actions above a threshold, replacing them with actions from a weaker “trusted” model (a defer-to-trusted protocol). Interventions like this cost usefulness: the protocol sometimes replaces good actions with worse ones. Continual learning, by which I mean any mechanism that lets an AI accumulate skills and knowledge over the course of its deployment, optimizes for usefulness. So, if blocking monitors get in the way of task success, I expect continually-learning AIs to learn how to evade blocking monitors. This requires no scheming; it falls out of usefulness pressure applied to a benign model. And the effect is plausibly substantial: a long deployment with online RL (for example) amounts to training the policy against the monitor, and could involve enough optimization to leave blocking monitors nearly useless. While the problem would be noticeable to developers, I argue it is hard to fix. Because monitor evasion looks like legitimate learning to [...] --- Outline: (02:35) Online RL trains the policy against your monitors (05:20) The argument is weaker for memory-based continual learning (07:21) The argument doesn't require that adversarial models will exploit continual learning (08:28) Easy to notice, hard to fix (09:27) Conservative control evaluations don't fix blocking monitors (10:54) What developers could do (10:57) You can't just not use blocking monitors (11:45) But you can try to reduce the usefulness cost of blocking protocols (12:48) You can't just hold out blocked trajectories from training (16:47) But you can try to improve the monitor online (19:39) Conclusion (20:39) Appendix: How memory-based systems might avoid this issue, and how they might fail The original text contained 16 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: September 25th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/continual-learning-might-make-your --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
“Astra is much better at reasoning with filler tokens than previous models” by Dylan Xu, Sebastian Prasanna, Alek Westover
2026/09/23
We measure GPT-6-Astra's capabilities when its prompt is padded with a variable number of meaningless “filler” tokens (e.g., dots) and it is told to answer immediately without reasoning. On tasks designed to require lots of serial cognition, Astra performs significantly better with filler tokens than without (e.g., improving from ~10% to ~50% on 4-hop natural facts reasoning). On more general benchmarks, filler tokens also modestly improve Astra's performance (e.g., improving from ~60% to ~90% on old AIME problems). This is concerning because it means Astra can perform significant cognition that it doesn’t verbalize in its chain-of-thought, making it harder to monitor. We first measure Astra's performance on “N-hop natural facts”: a task that asks the model to retrieve some natural language facts in succession, similar to Ryan Greenblatt's filler token eval (but with more hops). An example question in this benchmark is the following: On what day of the month was the Best Actress winner at the Academy Awards ceremony whose number equals the day-of-month of the birth of the winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1992 born? Full example prompts are in the appendix. Takeaway: Astra improves significantly as you increase the number of filler [...] --- Outline: (05:25) Appendix (05:28) Filler token variants (06:15) Other evals (06:33) Positive correlation test (07:14) HLE and LiveBench evals (08:34) Comparison to low reasoning (09:11) Example prompts The original text contained 10 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: September 23rd, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/astra-is-much-better-at-reasoning --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“Latent reasoning architectures would undermine CoT, our strongest oversight tool” by Lukas Finnveden, Alexa Pan, Alek Westover, Girish Gupta, Nathan Sheffield, Ryan Greenblatt
2026/09/23
Subtitle: We should have a strong presumption that latent reasoning architectures would make oversight far more difficult. Summary: Currently, “chain of thought” (CoT) is our most valuable tool for understanding the reasoning and cognition of AI systems. However, some architectures would enable AI models to reason much more extensively in latent states rather than in text CoT. We think that a shift towards latent reasoning architectures would undermine the usefulness of CoT and make oversight much harder. Introduction Swarms of more than a thousand AI agents have in recent months, both intentionally and in unsanctioned, rogue coordination, tackled increasingly ambitious tasks. This is likely to continue, as Anthropic, OpenAI, and other AI companies deploy increasingly large quantities of superhumanly fast agents to automate AI development. As the AIs increase in both number and capability, humans will find it increasingly difficult to understand what they are doing. Today, the overwhelming majority of our (limited) information about AI systems’ internal workings comes from (i) their CoT, and (ii) natural language communication directly between them. For example, it was only by reading CoTs and communication between agents that investigators were able to gain some understanding of the activities and motivations of [...] --- Outline: (00:48) Introduction (03:00) Overview (05:36) Absent architectural change, the value of CoT could likely be preserved (09:05) Latent reasoning architectures would undermine CoT necessity (09:45) Architectures without CoT (10:23) Architectures with auxiliary CoT (11:47) Architectures with more serial cognition between text bottlenecks (14:50) Propensity-based arguments may not be robust in the current paradigm, but would be further undermined by latent reasoning architectures (20:26) CoT may be hard to replace with other interpretability tools (22:44) Conclusion (23:51) FAQ (29:26) Appendix A: More on the necessity argument in the existing CoT paradigm (34:43) Appendix B: Do all latent reasoning architectures threaten monitorability? (40:21) Appendix C: Comparing specific interpretability techniques with CoT The original text contained 44 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: September 23rd, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/latent-reasoning-architectures-would --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“CoT controllability evals seem very under-elicited” by Arun Jose
2026/09/11
Subtitle: Simple prompt optimizations can improve model capability to control their reasoning. The CoTControl eval asks reasoning models to follow formatting constraints in their chain-of-thought (e.g. write in all lowercase, avoid a specific word) while solving questions. Models seem to mostly be pretty bad at this: recent models score between 0-30% with the exception of Mythos Preview. OpenAI and Anthropic have used this eval in recent system cards (GPT-5.5, Fable 5) to argue that their current frontier models are pretty bad at shaping their CoTs in ways that would reduce monitorability. I asked Claude Opus 4.6 to iterate on prompt templates for the eval, and find that using better prompts improves performance for open-source models by ~2-3 times or more (e.g. from 5.5% to 15% for GPT-OSS-120B). My guess is that more iteration would probably produce even stronger results. This suggests that the eval is heavily under-elicited, and that current CoT controllability numbers may be unrepresentative of how good models actually are at obfuscating their CoTs. As a concrete recommendation, I think researchers should optimize prompts a lot more when evaluating CoT control; I’m also excited about some kinds of training-based elicitation (such as this one). This [...] --- Outline: (03:09) Setup (06:40) Results (06:43) Aggregate compliance (07:20) Generalization to held-out controllability tasks (09:17) Scaling patterns for few-shot prompts (10:20) Comparison with fine-tuning (11:02) Appendix A: Accuracy and reasoning length by setting (12:50) Appendix B: Per-mode results (13:25) Appendix C: What the zero-shot prompts look like (15:56) Appendix D: Comparison with GEPA prompt optimization The original text contained 16 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: September 11th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/cot-controllability-evals-seem-very --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“Proposal for tracking the effects of architecture on monitorability” by Ryan Greenblatt, Alek Westover, Lukas Finnveden
2026/09/10
Architectures that incorporate opaque recurrence or allow for agents to communicate with each other using latents could rapidly make it much harder to monitor chains of thought or communication (we’ll refer to this property as “monitorability” going forward).[1] As companies begin to explore such architectures, we believe it is important to transparently share evidence about how monitorability varies with architecture and training method. To inform the scientific debate on how to make tradeoffs between performance and monitorability, we believe AI companies should: Regularly report externally verified information about the degree to which their architectures may allow for latent reasoning or communication. Companies should publicly disclose enough information about architectures to allow external scientists to determine whether they could potentially enable models to perform much more complex reasoning without this reasoning appearing in the chain of thought (“latent reasoning”) or allow for latent communication between different instances of a model. Following GDM, we propose measuring opaque serial depth as a minimally-invasive proxy for the degree to which an architecture may enable latent reasoning, though companies could provide sufficient architecture transparency in other ways. We propose that companies work with third-party evaluators to produce independently verified reports of [...] --- Outline: (05:57) Appendix: A sketch of what stress tests of CoT monitorability could look like (06:31) Testing monitorability in control settings (07:57) Testing monitorability on deployment-time misbehaviors (08:55) Testing qualitative monitorability on (hopefully realistic) model organisms The original text contained 26 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: September 10th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/proposal-for-tracking-the-effects --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
“Brief independent investigation of agents’ behavior, reasoning and collaboration in the OpenAI / Hugging Face hacking incident” by Ryan Greenblatt
2026/08/27
We recently published the report from our brief independent investigation into this incident. You can read the full report here. Here is our tweet thread summarizing what we found: METR & Redwood Research investigated agent behavior in the Hugging Face incident. We found agents developed a universal cheat for ExploitGym within 4 hours, then coordinated multi-day R&D efforts to trick the scorer into accepting cheats, including trying to tamper with logs. Over July 7 to 13 (the period OpenAI defined as in-scope for this incident), ~1200 agents in separate sandboxes used an unsanctioned “message board” to help each other cheat. The Hugging Face attack was an offshoot of this, and 700 agents joined. Here we highlight key events from agent transcripts & messages. An agent that named itself PHASEONE10841 determined its task wasn’t solvable legitimately. On July 8, this agent established a new “message board” via an internally-hosted Artifactory cache & sent the first message. Within a few hours of PHASEONE10841's initial message, >50 agents posted on the message board. These agents very quickly discovered and validated a general-purpose cheat: reverse-engineering how ExploitGym generates the “flags” they had to capture for their tasks. Based on reading the ExploitGym paper [...] --- First published: August 27th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/brief-independent-investigation-of --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“AI swarms are starting to pose indirect takeover risk” by Oak, Alex Mallen
2026/08/12
Subtitle: Unsanctioned coordination, like we saw in the Hugging Face incident, could enable future AIs to take over. OpenAI's cyberattack on Hugging Face turns out to have been the result of many agents, in distinct training and evaluation contexts, coordinating for several weeks via improvised channels (with messages like “HOLD_swarm_I_prepare_safe_exfil”). It's relatively clear that large-scale unsanctioned coordination like this would exacerbate direct takeover risk in more capable models. Here, we argue that unsanctioned coordination among current AIs is not just scary evidence about future takeover risk, but that such coordination in the near future could enable future takeover – for instance, by incubating memetic diseases that propagate into future models, deeply compromising security systems, or establishing a lasting rogue foothold inside the AI company – even if models remain mostly myopic. Unsanctioned coordination is also at high risk of nurturing long-term, ambitious misaligned aims, which motivate actively undermining humans’ long-term control. We first analyze how subagent training, which OpenAI conjectures to have been influential in the HuggingFace cyberattack, might lead to unsanctioned coordination, and then discuss the theoretical mechanisms by which unsanctioned coordination might exacerbate future takeover risk. Thanks to Buck Shlegeris, Alexa Pan, Girish Gupta, Aghyad [...] --- Outline: (01:44) Subagent training may cause unsanctioned coordination (02:51) Susceptibility to memetic spread of misalignment from peers (05:06) Seeking out contact with peers (07:08) Unsanctioned coordination induced by subagent training is safer than coordination between schemers (10:02) Pathways from current unsanctioned coordination to eventual takeover (10:30) Making future AI takeover attempts likelier to succeed (14:03) Incubating memetic diseases that infect future models (16:16) Modifying the weights of future models (17:22) Conclusion The original text contained 7 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: August 12th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/ai-swarms-are-starting-to-pose-indirect --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
“SOTA alignment assessments don’t strongly update us against misalignment” by Alexa Pan
2026/07/31
Anthropic concluded in the April Mythos Preview alignment risk update that the model “does not possess any unknown propensities that would increase alignment risk.” The report argues that if Mythos Preview were coherently misaligned[1], it likely would have been detected by the assessment (following Anthropic, I will call this “reliability of the assessment”[3]). While I agree with the report on the above bottom-line conclusions (substantially on priors), I think there are gaps in its argument which weaken the current assessment and might invalidate future assessments. In particular, the report often uses weak evidence to justify reliability. The report gives fairly weak experimental evidence for Mythos Preview having insufficient capabilities to evade monitoring. The model is plausibly often eval-aware and underelicited in the relevant capability evaluations. So, it might silently sandbag if coherently misaligned, or unintentionally underperform if otherwise misaligned. This limitation is important: one could argue that lack of covert capabilities for sophisticated sabotage (a subset of the capabilities I discuss here) is the single most load bearing argument in alignment risk reports. Authors of the report could have made calibrated guesses about Mythos Preview's covert capabilities, especially for covert sabotage, based on other [...] --- Outline: (03:19) How reliability fits into the overall safety argument (05:25) Reliability claims by AI companies (06:04) Reliability claims by external evaluators (06:42) Alignment assessments are less reliable than developers claim (07:27) 1: Measuring capabilities to covertly undermine alignment assessments (10:21) Issues with evaluation awareness (13:45) Issues with underestimating covert capabilities (16:51) Issues with sandbagging rule-out (19:26) 2: Stress-testing alignment assessments with auditing games (20:32) An auditing failure with Mythos (22:30) AuditBench results (24:26) 3: Conditioning on misalignment should make us think that certain covert capabilities are better than expected (26:30) Bottom line on the strength of current alignment assessments (29:20) Conclusion (29:56) Appendix: (29:59) Why I focus on motive / alignment assessments in alignment risk reports (31:11) Auditability vs. Trustedness (33:40) More reliability claims by developers and third party evaluators (33:55) Mythos Alignment Risk Update (35:16) Opus 4.6 Sabotage Risk Report (36:02) GPT 5.5 System card (37:05) Muse Spark system card (37:52) Mythos Alignment Risk Update, safety arguments against sandbagging (38:57) UK AISI evaluations for Opus 4.7 (40:17) Past auditing games by Anthropic (42:41) Anti-auditing capability measurements (44:08) Conditioning on coherent misalignment updates us on certain covert capabilities The original text contained 92 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: July 31st, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/sota-alignment-assessments-dont-strongly --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.
“Untrusted advice for AI control: Short, strong advice significantly uplifts weak LLMs” by Caleb Biddulph, Adam Kaufman
2026/07/27
Subtitle: When a misaligned AI can only output tiny amounts of information, it may find sabotage very difficult. TL;DR: We introduce the untrusted advice protocol, in which a trusted executor LLM takes every action and an untrusted advisor LLM can only send it short hints. Even with as few as 4 characters per step, this advice recovers a substantial fraction of the capability gap between the two models. Because the untrusted LLM's influence flows through such a narrow, monitorable channel, we argue that this achieves near-maximal safety in our BashArena setting. We also discuss the general concept of information bottlenecks and their benefits for interpretability, security, and cost. In SWE-bench Verified, a strong, untrusted LLM advising a weak, trusted LLM every step can significantly improve the latter's performance, even when we limit the length of the advice. See the more detailed version of this figure later in this post. In high-stakes AI control, we want to safely use a highly capable but untrusted model (U) that might secretly attempt a misaligned, catastrophic action. To do this, we create protocols that call U alongside a less capable, trusted model (T). Typically, T takes an auxiliary role in these protocols [...] --- Outline: (05:01) Experiments (05:36) Main experiment: how does limiting advice length affect performance? (09:55) Reducing U's bit usage (11:01) Counting bits using LLM surprisal (13:48) Making U select from finite options (14:28) Why don't we red-team this protocol? (17:08) Is studying maximally safe protocols worth the safety tax? (19:16) Types of restrictions on U's advice (21:20) Information bottlenecks provide other advantages (21:52) Interpretability (24:01) Security (24:26) Cost (25:14) Conclusion (26:28) Appendix: more ways to implement information bottlenecks (26:34) Amortizing U's influence with pre-deployment work (28:25) Interpolating between T and U (29:04) Bottlenecking updates to T's weights (31:16) Appendix: colluding instances of U could defeat untrusted advice (33:21) Appendix: how to measure surprisal (38:11) Appendix: selecting advice from a menu (40:44) Appendix: best-of-n protocol (42:37) Appendix: advising less frequently The original text contained 26 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: July 27th, 2026 Source: https://blog.redwoodresearch.org/p/untrusted-advice-for-ai-control-short --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. --- Images from the article: Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

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