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2025/04/12
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2026/02/01
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Think it doesn't matter what you wear? Hosts Jennine Jacob and Kristen Philipkoski uncover the ways your personal style is not just personal. What you choose to wear every day is a political act, whether you're aware of it or not. And putting thought into your personal style is not superficial, unintelligent, or a waste of time. Along with guests including bestselling authors, scientists, entrepreneurs, and more, the Closet Philosophy podcast explores how what we wear influences and reveals what's within.
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From big tech and law to gold and clay: Two founders on creativity, identity, and the courage to pivot
2026/02/01
What does it really take to leave a prestigious, intellectually demanding career and step fully into a creative life?
Two women who did exactly that join us for this episode of Closet Philosophy. Erin Hupp and Subikksha Balaje come from wildly different professional backgrounds (law and data science, respectively), yet both found their way back to creativity through clay, metal, and a pull toward working with their hands.
Erin Hupp is a former child welfare and land use lawyer who now runs Erin Hupp Ceramics in the San Francisco Bay Area, creating sculptural dinnerware, lighting, and objects for restaurants and private clients. Subikksha Balaje grew up in Chennai, India, built a successful career in Big Tech, and later launched Gold Stories, a fine jewelry brand rooted in storytelling, cultural memory, and wearable art.
Recently, Erin and Subikksha collaborated on a stunning fine jewelry collection that transforms Erin's signature folded ceramic forms into silver and gold—future heirlooms that honor both precision and imperfection.
Together, we talk about:
Why midlife can be a powerful creative awakening—not a crisis
The vulnerability of shedding a "serious" professional identity
Imposter syndrome (before and after success)
How collaboration sparks ideas AI never could
The tension between perfection and imperfection in handmade work
Why stories matter more than ever in a tech-saturated world
And how personal style, craft, and creativity are deeply human acts of resistance
This conversation is a love letter to creative courage, curiosity, and the belief that it's never too late to claim who you really are.
Whether you're considering a pivot, craving more creativity, or simply want to hear how two artists think about meaning, work, and making—this episode is for you.
Want better style? Get rid of your clothes
2026/01/25
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Kristen and Jennine dig into a counterintuitive idea: less really can be more — especially when it comes to personal style.
Jennine shares how her attempt to curb overconsumption led her to experiment with a 40-piece wardrobe ecosystem, not as a deprivation tactic, but as a creative framework. What started as a practical solution quickly became a powerful way to clarify her style, reduce spending, and build confidence.
Together, Kristen and Jennine explore how creative limitations fuel innovation across disciplines—from art and graphic design to filmmaking and fashion. They discuss why having guardrails doesn't stifle self-expression, but actually sharpens it, using examples from Bottega Veneta's woven leather legacy to iconic brands like Ace & Jig and even the cult-classic Clueless wardrobe.
The conversation also turns personal, touching on the emotional weight of holding onto clothes (and stuff), the fear of making decisions, and how trusting your taste is a skill—one that gets easier with age and experience. Whether you're navigating a no-buy season, overwhelmed by trends, or trying to define a signature look that actually fits your life, this episode reframes style as something deeper than shopping.
Because great style isn't about having more, it's about knowing yourself.
In this episode, we cover:
Why limitations can unlock creativity, not kill it
How a 40-piece wardrobe helps clarify personal style
Overconsumption, thrifting, and the myth of "more is better"
The emotional side of letting go of clothes
Trusting your taste—and why confidence is the secret ingredient
What fashion, film, interiors, and branding all have in common
If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify!
Questions or love notes? Email us at [email protected]
Ep. 29: How to find your style by editing, not adding to your closet
2026/01/18
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Jennine and Kristen explore one of the most misunderstood ideas in personal style: that having more clothes actually makes getting dressed harder, not easier.
What begins as a conversation about Kristen's long-standing 70s, bohemian California aesthetic opens into a much deeper discussion about identity, decision fatigue, creativity, and why true personal style comes from editing rather than accumulation.
Jennine shares how style is not about finding the perfect piece or chasing trends, but about making intentional decisions. Drawing parallels between writing, design, and wardrobe building, she explains why constraints are essential for creativity and how an overflowing closet can block clarity rather than inspire it.
Together, they unpack the psychological weight of "maybe someday" clothes, the myth of endless options, and how a tightly edited wardrobe ecosystem can free up mental space, time, and confidence. The conversation also touches on belonging versus fitting in, the role of comfort in looking "cool," and why style should ultimately work for your life, not demand constant attention.
This episode is for anyone who feels overwhelmed by their closet, stuck in style limbo, or exhausted by the pressure to keep up. It's an invitation to stop looking outward for answers and start trusting yourself.
Topics covered:
Why style is a decision-making process, not an aesthetic label
The connection between editing, creativity, and confidence
How too many clothing options create decision fatigue
The concept of a "wardrobe ecosystem" and seasonal rotation
Letting go of clothes that don't reflect who you are now
How constraints help you develop personal style signatures
Shifting from "How do I look?" to "How do I feel like me?"
If getting dressed feels harder than it should, this episode will change how you think about your closet—and yourself.
Ep. 28: Season 2 kickoff! Why Shopping Won't Give You Good Style (and What Will)
2026/01/11
We're kicking off season 2 of Closet Philosophy with a conversation about overconsumption, emotional shopping, and the cultural forces that keep us chasing "more."
Jennine shares a personal reckoning: years of daily thrifting, racks sagging with clothes, garbage bags stuffed into closets — all while telling her audience they didn't need to shop. What started as reselling and "style experimentation" slowly revealed itself as something else: a way to soothe anxiety, regulate emotions, and chase an external version of identity.
Together, Kristen and Jennine unpack why this isn't a personal failure — and why so many of us feel stuck in the same cycle.
We explore:
Why thrift culture isn't always sustainable
The massive labor and environmental cost of donated clothing
How only a fraction of clothing ever gets worn again
Why dopamine feels like "style" — but isn't
How propaganda and psychology trained us to shop for identity
The role of algorithms, influencers, and targeted desire
Jennine introduces her 40-piece wardrobe ecosystem, a turning point that helped her stop chasing trends and start wearing what she already owned. The restriction inherent in a 40-piece wardrobe led to clarity.
The conversation widens into belonging, people-pleasing, and the liberation that comes from choosing yourself — in your closet, your work, and your life. Kristen shares parallel experiences from teaching Pilates and learning to release the impossible task of being liked by everyone.
This episode isn't about minimalism or moralizing consumption. It's about understanding the systems we're operating inside — and creating enough awareness to pause, choose differently, and reconnect with who we actually are.
Season 2 will continue exploring creativity, personal style, and how to step off the hamster wheel of trends — without giving up joy, expression, or beauty.
We'd love to hear from you:
How has shopping shown up in your life? What have you learned on the other side of overconsumption?
Ep. 27: Jennine's tips on how to rescue, restore, and love your clothes again
2025/10/20
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Kristen and Jennine dive deep into the art and satisfaction of caring for your wardrobe. From repairing damaged handbags to reviving old leather jackets and removing stubborn stains, Jennine shares practical, proven methods to extend the life of your favorite garments.
What we cover in this episode:
How Jeannine learned to restore thrifted clothing and leather goods through reselling
Easy DIY fixes for suede shoes, handbags, and faded leather jackets
Using household products—like dish soap and vinegar—for cleaning and stain removal
Tricks to rescue shrunken or misshapen clothes
Preventing mildew, odor, and dust mites in stored clothing
Thoughtful ways to repurpose furs and keep your accessories organized
Caring for your clothes doesn't require fancy tools or professional skills—just curiosity, patience, and a few smart products. With these methods, your closet can become more sustainable, organized, and personal.
Beyond body positivity—A conversation about body liberation with Chrissy King
2025/10/13
In this episode, Jennine and Kristen speak with writer, speaker, and educator Chrissy King, author of The Body Liberation Project. Chrissy dives deep into how fashion, fitness, and wellness intersect with social justice, race, and body image. The conversation moves beyond "body positivity," exploring body liberation as systemic social change—not just self-love. Listeners will learn why true inclusion requires rethinking everything from clothing access to medical practices, and how concepts of beauty and thinness are tied to politics and control.
Chrissy merges expertise in social justice, sociology, and fitness coaching. With work published in Shape, Health South, and POPSUGAR, Chrissy empowers all bodies to take up space and redefines wellness as collective liberation.
We discuss:
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> The limits of body positivity vs. body liberation
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Systemic oppression and body-based bias
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Fatphobia and its cultural/political roots
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Health misconceptions and lived experience
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Serena Williams, Lizzo, and representation
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Age, menopause, and changing bodies
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Inclusion in fashion and fitness industries
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Social justice and intersectionality
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Coping strategies in today's culture wars
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Books and accounts for further reading
Quotes:
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> "Body liberation is less about loving everything you see in the mirror, and more about understanding the vessel you live in is always worthy of respect."
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> "Thinness and beauty standards are less about health, and more about control."
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> "Representation helps people of every size, age, and identity give themselves permission to be seen."
Takeaways and resources:
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Follow Chrissy King's work for deeper dives into intersectionality and body acceptance.
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Recommended reads: The Body Liberation Project by Chrissy King, The Beauty Mythby Naomi Wolf, Fearing the Black Body by Sabrina Strings.
p]:pt-0 [&>p]:mb-2 [&>p]:my-0"> Explore body-positive and size-inclusive influencers, and seek supportive communities both online and offline for healing.
Ep. 25: Plus size representation, photography, and finding beauty in every body with Lydia Hudgens
2025/10/06
In this episode, Kristen and Jennine talk with photographer Lydia Hudgens, whose new book Plus: Expanding the Frame features 100% plus-size models and is the first of its kind. Lydia shares her journey from street-style photographer to celebrating body diversity through her lens, the state of plus-size representation in fashion today, and how posing can empower confidence for every body type.
They also explore how the rise of GLP-1 weight loss drugs, post-pandemic beauty standards, and internalized fatphobia are reshaping conversations about body image and inclusivity. Lydia discusses her modeling classes, why she believes representation matters across generations, and how her work helps people see the beauty in themselves that they might have forgotten was there.
We discuss:
The inspiration behind Plus: Expanding the Frame
How fashion's body inclusivity has backslid in recent years
The impact of GLP-1 drugs on representation and body image
"Aspirational plus size," and why it's problematic
How age, tattoos, and size intersect in modeling
Why posing can help you feel more confident and connected to your body
The message Lydia hopes her book will leave with readers
Guest:
Lydia Hudgens — photographer, model, and advocate for body diversity. Her work has appeared in Vogue, Teen Vogue, Glamour, and more, and her clients include Anthropologie, Reformation, and Rent the Runway. Her book Plus: Expanding the Frame is available now.
Follow Lydia:
Instagram: @lydiahudgens (photography) @lydiaoffduty (modeling)
Lydia's website
Buy Lydia's book: Plus: Expanding the Frame
Ep 24: Jennine and Kristen explore beauty, aging, and authenticity
2025/09/22
Ep. 24: Exploring beauty, aging, and authenticity
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, Jennine and Kristen dive deep into the complicated relationship between beauty standards, aging, and authenticity. The conversation weaves together personal stories, cultural analysis, and feminist perspectives to unpack the pressures women face to look younger, thinner, or more polished—and the freedom that can come from rejecting those expectations.
From hair extensions and Botox to the social media anti-aging industrial complex, the hosts examine how personal choices intersect with social norms, capitalism, and patriarchy. They reflect on when beauty practices can feel empowering and when they cross into performative territory.
The discussion expands into history and culture, touching on icons like Marilyn Monroe, Twiggy, Madonna, and Serena Williams, as well as how older women are represented—or erased—in media and literature. Ultimately, Jennine and Kristen underscore the power of visibility and authenticity: showing up as yourself not only challenges beauty standards but also gives others permission to do the same.
If you've ever questioned where the line lies between self-expression and societal pressure, this episode will resonate.
Notes:
This is the YouTube video about Lolita that Jennine mentions.
Ep. 23: Midlife career reinvention, authentic style, and navigating change with Dilara Casey
2025/09/15
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, hosts Jennine and Kristen sit down with career consultant Dilara Casey to explore what it takes to reinvent your career and style in midlife. Even if you've taken a decade out from your career, Dilara has tops for everything from making confident pivots to navigating ageism. She shares practical strategies for reframing your story, updating your resume, and embracing change with authenticity.
She also opens up about reclaiming personal style during challenging times and why staying true to your look can be a source of power. The conversation touches on AI's impact on the workplace, the importance of human creativity, and how Equipped Women is helping close the gender gap.
What you'll learn:
First steps for successful career pivots
How to position volunteer work and nontraditional experience as strengths
Concrete strategies to combat ageism and claim your value
Why authentic personal style fuels confidence and reinvention
Follow Dilara:
TikTok
LinkedIn
Check out her novel, Wherever You Go
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Ep. 22: Menopause, perimenopause, and personal power with 'The M Factor' producer Denise Pines
2025/09/08
In this episode of Closet Philosophy, hosts Jennine and Kristen sit down with Denise Pines, an influential filmmaker and leader in the effort to normalize conversations about perimenopause and menopause.
She's a Peabody-winning filmmaker, health advocate, founder of Tea Botanics and WisePause Wellness, and president of the Osteopathic Medical Board of California. Together, they unravel the cultural silence around menopause and perimenopause, discuss Denise's influential documentaries (The M Factor and upcoming Before the Pause, and explore how personal style, society, and women's health intersect.
Highlights Denise's personal and professional journey in women's health, filmmaking, and advocacy
The impact of The M Factor and the new focus on perimenopause in Before the Pause
Why perimenopause and menopause remain so misunderstood—and what has to change in medicine and culture
The legislative fight to improve menopause training for doctors in California (AB 360 and beyond)
Common but rarely discussed menopause symptoms, and why early education matters
How Denise balances her multifaceted career and the wellness routines that keep her energized
When Denise met Prince (!)
How aging changes personal expression, style, and purpose
Connect with Denise:
LinkedIn
The M Factor: Shredding the Silence on Menopause
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Ep. 21: Jennine and Kristen on the power of visibility after 40
2025/09/02
Jennine and Kristen dive deep into the complex experience of visibility for women as they age, sharing candid stories and discussing cultural, psychological, and societal shifts that impact self-expression and confidence beyond 40. This episode explores the challenges women face in retaining visibility, feeling confident, and expressing authentic style, offering hope and actionable insights for listeners.
Key Topics:
The first personal experiences of feeling invisible: Jennine and Kristen recount moments in retail and influencer settings where age influenced how they were treated.
The myth that women's value revolves around youth and male attention, and the shifting priorities toward self-authenticity in later years.
Statistics from a menopause and aging study: Over two-thirds of women over 45 feel ignored by men in public spaces, and many cite issues like graying hair and access to fashionable clothing as confidence barriers.
The challenge and power of speaking up: Including an incident at a coffee shop that went viral, and how fear of being labeled a "Karen" hinders self-advocacy for older women.
Personal style as visibility: Discussion of how style can be a tool for self-expression and why hiding in "invisible" clothing is a missed opportunity during the most powerful years of women's lives.
Erasure of older women in media and fashion, contrasted with real examples of powerful, stylish women over 50, and how Hollywood continues to favor male experience at the expense of older female visibility.
Breaking stereotypes: Examples from film, fashion, and real life illustrating authenticity, confidence, and visibility for women at any age.
Quotes to Remember:
"Women want to be seen for who they are now—not as a younger version of themselves."
"Visibility is not just about being seen by men; it's about being recognized and respected in your own right."
"Now is the time to figure out what visibility means and how to pursue it with intention."
Call to Action:
How do you want to be visible? Share your story with us—we want to hear from listeners! Drop a comment or get in touch to join the conversation on confidence, style, and living authentically at every age.
Ep. 20: Persistence and reinvention: Musician and creator Cat Pierce on creativity, confidence, and personal style
2025/08/25
In this episode of the Closet Philosophy podcast, hosts Jennine and Kristen sit down with Cat Pierce—writer, artist, entrepreneur, and musician, best known as half of the band The Pierces.
Cat shares her inspiring journey of continual reinvention, highlighting how creativity flourishes at every stage of life, especially beyond the age of 40. The conversation delves into themes of overcoming societal expectations, building inner and outer confidence, and finding empowerment through personal style, beauty rituals, and creative experimentation.
Cat discusses launching her beauty and lifestyle brand, Omen, the viral "Higher Self Therapy" series on Instagram, and the importance of reframing midlife as a time of transformation and vibrancy. The episode also explores personal challenges Kat faced—such as stage fright, people-pleasing, and post-divorce healing—and how creativity and self-love underpin resilience. Listeners are encouraged to embrace play, reimagine what's possible at every age, and nurture their creative spark to unlock personal and collective growth.
Find Cat on Instagram, check out her skincare brand Omen, and listen to her music, and watch her videos!
Ep. 19: Style, confidence, and redefining beauty with Angel Edme
2025/08/18
This week on Closet Philosophy, Jennine and Kristen sit down with fashion creator Angel Edme. Her bold style and fearless approach to self-expression embody what it means to use style as self-expression. Angel Edme is a fashion, beauty, and lifestyle creator based in New York—known for her razor-sharp style, unfiltered honesty, and a deep passion for helping people show up as their boldest, truest selves.
She started behind the camera as a storyteller, and now she's in front of it—empowering real people to reclaim their confidence through fashion, skincare, and creative self-expression. Angel doesn't just serve looks—she sparks transformation. Whether she's sharing outfit inspiration, speaking truth on identity and visibility, or demystifying beauty standards, Angel brings style, and substance to everything she does.
Get ready for a conversation on personal power, redefining beauty, and why what you wear is never just about clothes.
Highlights include:
How growing up shaped her approach to style.
Why "styling principles" should be tools, not rules.
Her process for mindful shopping and choosing pieces with versatility.
The rise of African designers bringing bold creativity and inclusivity.
Practical advice for anyone struggling with body image and confidence.
Angel reminds us that the most stylish thing you can wear is self-love—and that what you wear is never just about clothes.
👉 Follow Angel on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube, and check out her Substack Stuff I Wouldn't Gatekeep for her latest fashion, travel, and beauty insights.
Ep. 18: Revealing yourself through style, story, and self-trust with model and author Alicia Johnson
2025/08/12
in this inspiring conversation, we talk with Alicia Johnson—global marketing strategist, Ford model, and author of Buried Treasure: A Field Guide to the Life-Changing Magic of Revealing Yourself. Alicia shares how she re-entered the modeling world in her 60s through a twist of serendipity, the challenges and biases that still exist for older plus-size women in fashion, and how personal style can be a radical act of self-acceptance.
We explore the deeper meaning of authenticity, why self-trust is the foundation of showing up fully, and how movement—not dieting—can be a key to reclaiming joy. Alicia also offers practical tools for reconnecting with your body, noticing where emotions live physically, and using clothing to express your most powerful self.
Other highlights include:
The magical story of Alicia's unexpected contract with Ford Models
The ongoing cultural double standard for older women's bodies
How hope differs from optimism (and why it matters)
Practical style advice from tailoring to designer investment pieces
Why authenticity is an active, ongoing practice—not a buzzword
If you've ever wondered how personal style intersects with healing, agency, and joy, this episode will leave you feeling empowered to reveal yourself—inside and out.
Find Alicia online: alicialjohnson.com | Instagram & Substack: @alicialjohnson
Ep. 17: Leah Elson on Science, Style, and Showing Up Fully As Yourself
2025/08/04
In this episode we are very thrilled to talk with Leah Elson—scientist, author, and viral science communicator—about the power of showing up fully as yourself, whether in a lab coat or a leather jackets.
Leah has degrees from Harvard, Johns Hopkins, and USC, and has published more than 87 scientific manuscripts. But she's just as known for her incredible eyeliner, tattoos, and bold, unapologetic personal style. We talk with her about how embracing her full self—pink hair and all—actually enhanced her work as a neuroscientist.
We cover:
Why personal style isn't superficial—it's essential, especially for women in male-dominated fields.
The science behind gut health, nerve regeneration, and outer space.
Her book There Are No Stupid Questions in Science, why she illustrated it with crayons, and how it came to be.
Her journey from surviving a tumultuous upbringing to becoming a global role model.
AI, AGI, and how human creativity might be the last frontier.
This one is inspiring, enlightening, and packed with ideas about fashion, feminism, trauma, science, and how all of it connects.
Mentioned in this episode:
Leah's favorite eyeliner
Miracle Balm by Jones Road
Leah's book: There Are No Stupid Questions in Science
Follow Leah: @gnarlybygnature
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Alyssa Schenectady 2025/08/27
Keeps me curious
Closet Philosophy always has amazing guests and thoughtful conversations. The hosts keep me curious about my style and inspire me to see things from n...
Em*Dub 2025/08/01
Expansive, compelling conversations
This podcast leaves me curious and inspired, thanks to its unique guests and range of topics around style, values, living with creativity and intentio...
Lee Trapani 2025/04/30
Can’t get enough
The closet philosophy is all encompassing.
It’s deeply insightful, refreshing, informative and inspiring. It makes me feel better about the world and ...
LC💃🏻 2025/04/16
Vibes!
I’ve had the pleasure of working with Jennine, and her approach is truly inspiring. She has a way of encouraging you to tap into your own creativity, ...
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