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DIFFERENTIATING FEELING FROM STORY, LEARNING ABOUT T-GROUPS

2026/10/26

Sarah tells Vanessa what she learned about T-groups from watching a video by Crystallin Dillon, the founder of the Bay Area T-Group Community.

SAYING THE UNSAID TURNS TWO: THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN

2026/10/19

Sarah + Vanessa talk about being two years in to Saying the Unsaid and remembering their first group experiences as pre-teens and teenagers.

QUEERING GROUP: DISORIENTATION AS A PRECONDITION FOR ALIVENESS

2026/10/12

Vanessa + Sarah some of their thoughts after reading Ali Kimmel's article, "Queer Theory's Contributions to Modern Analytic Groups."

FRICTION AS FUEL FOR CONNECTION

2026/10/05

Sarah + Vanessa discuss how naming dissonance (with humor or sincerity) can serve as an antidote to boredom and a mechanism for connection.

BONUS EPISODE: THE PHILADELPHIA NAKED BIKE RIDE

2026/09/28

Sarah tells Vanessa about her experience participating in the Philadelphia Naked Bike Ride for her very first time.

WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR HANDS AND OTHER IN-PERSON DILEMMAS

2026/09/28

Vanessa + Sarah talk about their dream of meeting in-person for a weekend with their online groups and how awkward and amazing that could be.

CAN LEADERS HAVE LIMITS, TOO?

2026/09/21

Vanessa + Sarah talk about the idea that it might be permissible, or even important, for the leaders to recognize and honor their limitations, too.

WHY YOU SHOULD FIRE US

2026/09/14

Vanessa + Sarah discuss Vanessa's most recent visit with her surgeon.

CULTIVATING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNCONSCIOUS OTHER

2026/09/07

Vanessa shares her thoughts on an article titled, "The Unconscious Other" by Lee Rather, and gratitude to Wendell Berry on the day of his passing.

THE SPECIFIC MUSCLE OF EXPRESSING ANGER AT THE LEADER(S)

2026/08/31

Sarah + Vanessa talk about the specific task in group of naming disappointment, frustration, and anger at the leader(s), in part because you may have not been able to do so as a child (or as an adult!).

ALLERGIES, EMBARRASSMENT + SARAH ACCIDENTALLY SHARED A REEL

2026/08/24

Sarah + Vanessa talk about group as a test to find out what we're allergic/reactive to; Sarah faced one of her allergies in her real life this week in an accidental Instagram reel share.

GROUP AS IMPROVISATION

2026/08/17

Vanessa + Sarah talk about process group as a practice of improvisation vs. rehearsed speech.

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE

2026/08/10

Sarah + Vanessa talk about their unfortunately ongoing relationship to lying.

IN THE ROOM/OUT OF THE ROOM AND THE ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE ACCIDENT

2026/08/03

Sarah + Vanessa reflect on the dilemma in a process group of tending to what's "inside the room" while inhabiting what is "outside the room."

THE SPECIFIC TORTURE AND JOY OF GROUP

2026/07/27

Sarah + Vanessa talk about their particular ease in enjoying leading groups, despite their acute awareness of the specific torture of being in a process group.