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This week I’m joined by Jess Furness from The Running Channel, who last year ran 42 marathons in one year, for what would have been her oldest brother’s 42nd birthday. Her documentary, 42 Marathons in One Year: A Story of Grief and Love, made me cry at the premiere, and it did again when I rewatched it before we recorded.We talk about growing up on a farm, how running became her headspace, and what it was like to open up on camera. We also cover how she planned the challenge, runner’s knee, eight marathons in eight days, and why she wanted everyone to be able to join in, from first-time 5K runners to her family’s first marathons. Watch the  ⁨@runningchannel⁩  doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd4lW9tzIps Follow Jess: https://www.instagram.com/jessecafurness/ Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] 00:00 - Cold Open & the Premiere of Jess’s Documentary 01:00 - Why Jess Ran 42 Marathons in One Year 03:00 - Growing Up on a Farm & How Running Became Her Headspace 10:45 - Grief at University & Finding Your People Through Run Clubs 14:00 - Running as Therapy, Opening Up on Camera & Learning to Be Kinder to Yourself 23:10 - Talking About Eddie & Keeping a Brother’s Memory Alive 28:00 - Planning 42 Marathons: The Running Channel, Coaching & Runner’s Knee 33:00 - Making a Huge Challenge Relatable for Everyday Runners 36:45 - The Valencia Taper Mistake: Chasing a PB on Marathon 39 40:00 - Enjoy the Training Block & the “10 More Minutes” Trick 43:00 - Inside the Documentary & Jess’s Journey to The Running Channel 46:00 - The 3:00:10 Marathon & Why You Shouldn’t Rush Your Running Journey 48:30 - Highlights & Lowlights of Running 42 Marathons in a Year 52:20 - Training Between Marathons, a Treadmill Marathon & Strength Work 55:45 - Why Eating Before You Run Matters 59:00 - Valencia Marathon Training, Six Countries in 24 Hours & Cross Training 1:07:00 - Running With Your Partner as a Pacer 1:09:30 - Taking Little Steps: Grief, Anxiety & Enjoying Life 1:11:15 - Where to Watch the Documentary & Wrapping Up

Hugo Fry is back for October's Fry Up and as always we have our usual non-running related nonsense. This week we get into our Valencia Marathon training blocks, Hugo's mental 44km training run & we build our runfluencer traitors cast. Plus Taylor Swift opinions Cal refuses to say on record (this is a safe space right?). Hugo Fry: https://www.instagram.com/hugo.fry/ His very active youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC860VU8Qgs5N8ybblovVuOg Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] 00:00 - Hugo’s 208km Week, Strava Privacy & the “Stay Hard” Playlist 02:30 - Taylor Swift Opinions & Spotify Sports Podcast Charts 06:40 - Traitors UK Celebrity Series: Cast Reviews & Final Table Predictions 11:50 - Runfluencer Traitors: Casting a Running Influencer Edition 18:20 - Valencia Marathon Training Update: 44km Long Run, Weekly Mileage & Injury Niggles 23:20 - Marathon Pace Explained: Hugo’s 5K to Marathon Paces & Can He Run 2:13? 25:00 - Why Run 44km? Fatigue Resistance Sessions & Cal’s 34km Long Run 27:50 - Alcohol & Marathon Training: Balance, Recovery and Having Fun 30:40 - Meeting Hugo’s Family & Wedding Socialising Tips 34:40 - Hugo’s Dating Story: Turning Someone Down Because She Didn’t Run 37:00 - “Rice or Repeat” Merch & Are Ideas Discovered or Created? 39:30 - Will Gooch’s Challenge, Low Heart Rates & Creator Scandals 43:00 - Running Coaches: Questioning Your Plan, Fatigued Miles & Upcoming Long Runs 49:00 - Marathon Race-Day Disasters: Start Line Chaos, Carb Loading & the Worst Toilet Story 52:45 - Why Running With Others Beats Solo Long Runs 58:15 - Long Run Race Simulation: Battersea Park Loops & Start Times 1:01:30 - Ash’s Congo Expedition, Everest Fears & Red Bull Stunts 1:06:00 - How Brands Sponsor Creators & Athletes 1:07:15 - New York Marathon: Almgren Preview, Hills, Bridges & Crowd Noise 1:13:30 - Hill Training Myths & the Backyard Ultra World Championship Debate 1:16:20 - Mental Resilience, Echo Chambers & Why a Coach Helps 1:19:15 - Book & Podcast Recommendations: Romesh Ranganathan & Louis Theroux 1:22:56 - Nudge Stock: Why Self-Deprecation Disarms Online Trolls 1:25:00 - Where to Find Hugo & Wrapping Up

This week I’m joined by the co-founders of SAP; James Warnock & Conor McNamee - The running nutrition brand built on a chance meeting in Cape Town. We talk about why they believe sports nutrition should taste good, the science behind using maple syrup as a race fuel, and how two runners turned a wild idea on a safari into one of the most exciting brands in endurance sport right now. Plus they give me their exact fuelling advice for Valencia Marathon!Follow SAP: https://www.instagram.com/sapgoodenergy/?hl=en Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected]

Jake Smith is one of Britain's most talented marathon runners but his journey to the top nearly cost him everything. In this episode, Jake opens up about his battle with an eating disorder, the doctor who warned him he'd be in a wheelchair by 30, and how he fought his way back to run 2:09 this September at Berlin Marathon. What a seriously inspiring bloke, a story that carries so much weight. Pleasure chatting to him! Follow Jake: https://www.instagram.com/jakeliamsmith98?exln=MTVraHR3aWRheXlwcQ== Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] 00:00 - Introduction & Welcome02:00 - Growing Up in Bermuda and Hong Kong06:00 - Moving to the UK and Starting Running12:00 - Early Athletic Career and University18:00 - The Moment Everything Changed24:00 - Struggling With His Relationship With Food32:00 - The Doctor’s Warning That Stopped Him38:00 - Rock Bottom and Asking For Help44:00 - The Road to Recovery52:00 - Rebuilding His Running Career58:00 - Training Methods and Marathon Preparation01:04:00 - Berlin Marathon and Running 2:0901:10:00 - What’s Next and Future Goals01:16:00 - Valencia Marathon Preview01:22:00 - Super Shoe Chat and Nike vs Adidas01:26:00 - Wrapping Up

This week I'm joined by Adam Clark (Clarky), elite marathon runner, Manchester Marathon champion, and co-founder of URUNN alongside Sir Mo Farah. We get into his running journey from the kid who loved cross country to winning marathons, his PBs across every distance, and why most people rush the process. We also chat about life with Charlotte Purdy, pacing London Marathon and never finishing it, the firemen moment with Hugo, pacing Sweets at Berlin, and how URUNN came about with Mo. I also share my own running journey, my naivest mistake at Chicago, and what I've learned chasing sub-3. adam: https://www.instagram.com/clarkey1/?hl=en Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] 0:00 - Intro 0:48 - Adam & Charlotte, 16 Years Together 2:08 - Growing Up a Runner 3:45 - School Athletics & The 800m 5:30 - St Mary's University, The Turning Point 7:32 - University Training & Ego 8:40 - From Track to Road 9:20 - Adam's PBs Across Every Distance 10:12 - Seville Marathon, 2:15 & Hated It 10:42 - Manchester Marathon, Racing to Win 12:50 - The Reality of Marathon Running 14:32 - My Running Journey & 30 Minute PB 15:16 - Chicago, My Naivest Mistake 17:01 - Training Philosophy & Double Threshold 20:04 - Peak Week, 136 Miles in Australia 22:24 - Life with Charlotte, The Sacrifices 24:53 - London Marathon Food Poisoning Disaster 25:59 - Pacing London, Never Finishing 26:17 - The Firemen Moment with Hugo 31:06 - Pacing Sweets at Berlin 34:10 - U Run & PurD Performance 35:05 - How I Met Mo Farah 36:54 - U Run App, Coaching in Your Pocket 39:46 - Biggest Mistakes from New Runners 41:31 - My Sub-3 Journey & Lessons Learned 43:55 - Stepping Back & Finding the Love Again 50:08 - Valencia Marathon Advice 51:34 - Taper Brain Explained 53:03 - Why I Don't Use Strava 54:06 - What's Next for Adam

This week I'm joined by the one and only Oli aka El Burrito Monster. The food content creator who accidentally became an absolute running machine. We talk losing six stone by running 10K every day, going from a 30-minute 5K to 20min in five days, running a 2:52 London Marathon at 102 kilos, and his latest Berlin Marathon where he tried to go sub-three on basically no training (really unhinged bloke). Follow Oli: https://www.instagram.com/elburritomonster/?hl=en Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected]

I'm joined by Cole Gibbens to break down his London Marathon debut, where he ran 2:16 as a first-timer! We get into the training mistakes that led to a stress responses, the reality of disordered eating and under fueling in the men's running scene, and a hands-on look at the newly released Adidas Pro 5 - how it compares to the Pro 4 and what it means for race day. Raw, honest conversation about the parts of running nobody talking about enough. Cole: https://www.instagram.com/colerunning/?hl=en-gb Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] 0:00 - Welcome & Introductions 1:36 - Tonbridge AC & Running Clubs 3:54 - Who Is Cole Gibbons? 5:20 - Running From a Young Age 9:37 - Childhood Running Ambitions 12:28 - The Complexity of Running 13:08 - What Is an Osteopath? 16:23 - Common Running Injuries 19:16 - Biomechanics & Social Media 20:17 - London Marathon 2025 22:25 - Elite vs Masses Start 25:08 - The Sub-2:20 Barrier 26:32 - Race Day Execution 28:50 - Heat Training Advantage 31:14 - Running Alone on the Mall 31:55 - Training Block & E-Scooter Injury 34:22 - Typical Training Week - 100 Miles 35:31 - Why Double Easy Runs 37:53 - Discipline & Running as Lifestyle 39:01 - YouTube & Post-London High 39:34 - Gold Medal Syndrome 40:53 - Berlin Marathon & Mileage Escalation 41:37 - Disordered Eating in Running 43:02 - Breaking the Cycle 45:01 - Fueling Rules for Runners 46:31 - Underfueling & Injuries 48:46 - Berlin Training - Gut Issues 51:09 - Finding a Good Space 51:33 - Stress Fracture & Comeback 52:54 - Coach Jonny Mellor 54:07 - Phantom Pain & MRI Scare 55:14 - Overcoming Injury 57:38 - Great North Run Comeback 58:58 - Less Volume, Better Results 59:45 - Great North Run Course Critique 1:01:32 - Race Splits & Execution 1:03:50 - Nailing the Race - 65:52 1:04:38 - Next Race Goals - Sub 2:15 1:05:47 - Working With Videographer Alex Philpot 1:08:03 - Shoe Chat - Alphafly 4 & Nike 1:11:12 - Training Without Carbon Shoes 1:11:42 - Adidas Pro 5 First Impressions 1:13:36 - Pro 5 for Heavier Runners 1:16:06 - Pro 5 Hands-On in Studio 1:17:48 - Catcalling - Girlfriend's Running Experience 1:20:55 - What Can Men Do? 1:24:52 - Outro & New Podcast

Back with September's fry up after a no-show in August and we've got a lot to catch up on... Fresh off a massive 14:19 5K personal best that his coach Mario was far from happy about, Hugo breaks down the race, the splits, the £200 Uber to Colchester. Hugo also recently got back from Australia after a DNS at Sydney Marathon due to illness! Nice catch up between the boys - listen or watch now! Calum: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Hugo: https://www.instagram.com/hugo.fry/ Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Welcome Back1:18 - 14:19 5K PB2:39 - Why Mario Wasn't Happy4:42 - The £200 Uber to Colchester8:32 - Post-Race & Bournemouth Heat Training11:53 - Brooks Shoes & Half Marathon PB15:33 - Track Night in Bournemouth19:11 - New Coach20:07 - Learning to Trust the Process25:30 - The Dog with Separation Anxiety27:54 - Australia & the Sydney Marathon30:54 - How Many Races a Year?33:18 - Getting Ill Before Sydney34:32 - Performance Pressure as a Creator37:43 - Business Class Flights44:11 - Honeymoon Planning46:19 - 350 Person Run Club in Sydney50:54 - Wearables & Heart Rate Data53:15 - Spencer Matthews & Coaching Drama55:50 - Sydney Marathon Recap58:33 - Running with Ran Japan60:25 - Ned Brockmann66:13 - Sydney vs New York Course67:44 - The Changing Running Content Landscape71:16 - Creator Authenticity & Brands78:07 - F1, Silverstone & Bazball80:19 - Upcoming Races: GNR, Manchester, Valencia83:53 - Palma 10K with TUI85:18 - Wrap Up

Marshall Exler is back on the pod! Content creator and Sarcoma UK ambassador joins for a raw, funny follow-up on turning grief into purpose after losing his wife Faye, solo world travel, being vulnerable online as a man, and training for the London Marathon 2027... Follow and rate 5 stars to support the show💛 His first episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4hkpCfH4OSDpNpy4aQhbrA?si=37d1ee4110c64c1b Follow Marshall: https://www.instagram.com/marshallexler/?hl=en Calum's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Calum's TikTok:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact: [email protected] 0:00 - Intro 0:11 - Marshall Exler returns 3:34 - 100K for Faye: raising £97,000 14:52 - Solo travel and healing through content 19:56 - Living with grief two years on 26:15 - Announcing the London Marathon 2027 30:01 - Marathon terminology quiz 37:35 - Body image and the "shirt pull" meme 52:16 - What's next: fundraising, travel, and a possible podcast 53:33 - Getting married 54:01 - Room 101: pet peeves

FINALLY! We find out what really happened... This week I sat down with ultra runner Ayyoub El Osrouti AKA Ello. I travelled over to the Another Cotton Lab store in Düsseldorf, Germany just days after he completed one of the most dramatic backyard ultras ever seen... The Last Soul Ultra. Ello ran 93 loops (623.7km) over 4 days, battling Achilles issues, sleep deprivation, hallucinations, and an intense head-to-head rivalry with Mark Dowdle that went viral around the world. This was such a great chat and so so interesting to get inside the head of one of the greatest endurance runners in the world at the moment.Ello: https://www.instagram.com/anotherello/?hl=en Follow on TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod⁠⁠⁠⁠ Calum's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Calum's TikTok:⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard ⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact: [email protected] 00:00 - Intro: Ello's Last Soul Ultra result 00:50 - Welcome to the podcast 04:17 - How Ello's body feels after finishing 09:07 - Ello's PBs and race highlights (Ironman, London Marathon) 12:53 - Introducing the Last Soul Ultra rivalry story 19:30 - Bringing in elite coach Sam Harvey 30:46 - Back to the start line of this year's race 35:10 - The first mental barrier of a 4-day ultra 39:06 - The final 14 laps: it gets tense with Mark 49:01 - Ello's relationship with Mark Dowdle 58:12 - The viral finish line meltdown moment 1:03:09 - Fame, attention, and being an athlete vs. an influencer 1:06:04 - Room 101: what Ello can't stand about the race 1:08:43 - Fan questions: darkest thoughts, hallucinations, and more 1:16:36 - What's next for Ello: Moab 240

I sat down with George Rickwood to break down the Last Soul Ultra, the backyard ultra that took over the internet. We cover Mark Dowdle's last-minute private jet dash across Europe to complete 94 laps, Ello's heartbreaking collapse in the final stretch, and the biggest moments, controversies, and characters from one of the most-watched ultrarunning events ever. We also dive into George's own Backyard Ultra disqualification drama, the debate around live coverage in ultrarunning, sleep deprivation and race-day mind games, and George's next big challenge: a 24-hour track ultra. George's first appearance: https://open.spotify.com/episode/380ch5ewRbfsCP8tXo7lJ3?si=e57d9544cf9b483b Follow George: https://www.instagram.com/georgerickwood_/?hl=en Follow on TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod⁠⁠⁠ Calum's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/⁠⁠⁠ Calum's TikTok:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard ⁠⁠⁠ YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A ⁠⁠⁠ Contact: [email protected] 00:00 Intro & Last Soul Ultra Overview 02:17 Meet the Founder & the Team Behind the Race 03:52 Backyard Ultra Format & Why It's So Popular 07:46 The Elite Field & How the Race Got Global Coverage 10:11 Mark Dowdle's Private Jet Sprint to the Start Line 13:20 How Mark Dowdle Went Viral During the Race 15:17 Backyard Ultra Coverage vs. Badwater 135 Debate 17:54 Max Jaluf's Badwater Controversy & Course Record 19:07 Mark Dowdle's Wild 94-Lap Finish 20:50 The Infamous Loop 87 Mind Games 21:04 Elo's Emotional Second-Place Collapse 23:19 Mark Dowdle vs. Harvey Lewis: Contrasting Mindsets 28:19 Sleep Deprivation, Hallucinations & Caffeine Strategy 30:35 Phil Gore's Project 168 Solo Backyard Ultra 32:38 Personal Relationships & Pacing in Ultra Running 36:00 Live Call With International Commentator Bryony 46:04 George's Suffolk Backyard Ultra Disqualification Story 50:31 The Russia Backyard Ultra Disqualification Scandal 54:31 George's Next Challenge: 24-Hour Track Ultra 58:46 Room 101: Ultra Running Pet Peeves 1:06:34 Goggins vs. Dowdle: Comparing Ultra Running Mindsets 1:09:01 George's Career Change & Move Into YouTube 1:13:28 Could Cal Qualify for the Olympics? 1:17:12 Injury Prevention: Sleep, Strength & Nutrition 1:20:00 Marathon du Médoc & Closing Thoughts 1:21:00 Outro & Next Week's Elo Interview

TommyRunPT is one of most best speakers in the running space & a man who have been central to so many people's running journey's over the past few years. I've found his videos to be such a source of inspiration and as a bloke he's been a big inspiration. Great to chat again with Tommy! We discuss why trail and ultra running feel so different from the road scene, the "ego core" side of fitness culture, and why some things are better left niche. Tommy discusses chasing 100-milers, optimisation culture and the big secret to success in running... it's something that might surprise some people. Tommy: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/tommyrunpt/?hl=en⁠ His podcast: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thatsrunnable/?hl=en⁠ Follow on TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod⁠⁠ Follow on Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod⁠⁠ Calum's Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/⁠⁠ Calum's TikTok:⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard ⁠⁠ YouTube channel: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A ⁠⁠ Contact: [email protected] 0:00 - Intro: Toenails, Toughness & Podcast Origins0:55 - Welcome Tommy Rumptie: His Coaching & Content Journey6:03 - Why Talking-Head Running Videos Went Viral9:16 - Falling in Love With Running: Ego, Identity & Purpose12:27 - The "Ego Core" of Fitness Culture & Aesthetic Running24:00 - Life Update & Trail Running Origin Story24:28 - Why Tommy Chose Trail & Ultra Running Over the Roads31:17 - Finding Meaning Beyond Metrics & Performance39:58 - The Optimisation Debate: Are We Over-Optimising Our Training?42:54 - Talking Openly About Alcohol & Balance45:59 - Race Highlights: Transgrancanaria to a Brutal 100-Mile Suffer Fest54:28 - Emotional Intelligence, Empathy & Giving Fitness Advice Responsibly1:05:10 - Online Hate, Gossip in the Running Community & Ironman Plans1:07:10 - Wrap-Up: Future Races & Where to Find More

DOUBLE OLYMPIC CHAMPION🤯🥇Not only one of the most decorated triathletes of all time, he’s a hero for many and was part of the iconic Team GB in 2008, 2012 & 2016 👏🏼. Alistair gave us one of the most iconic, heartwarming & controversial moments on endurance sport when he dragged his brother Jonny at the world championships over the line. If you were to have told that young lad watching the 2012 Olympics that he’d be one day chatting with a man who won gold I would have laughed at you. Incredible chat, absolutely loved that 🙌🏼 Alistair's IG: https://www.instagram.com/alistair.brownlee/?hl=en Truefuels IG: https://www.instagram.com/truefuels/?hl=enThe Brownlee Foundation IG: https://www.instagram.com/brownleefoundation/?hl=en Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] 0:00 - Introduction 0:55 - Welcome Alistair Brownlee 1:12 - Growing Up in Yorkshire 3:10 - First Triathlon Experience 5:00 - Finding Triathlon 5:41 - World Junior Championships 6:34 - Evolution of Triathlon 10:23 - Barriers to Entry 13:02 - Simplicity in Sport 14:57 - Rivalry With Brother Jonny 19:49 - Beijing 2008 Olympics 30:35 - Training for London 2012 33:49 - London 2012 Olympics 38:09 - Winning Olympic Gold 41:49 - Rio 2016 Back to Back Gold 46:30 - The Iconic Mexico Moment 51:14 - What Happened to Jonny 53:17 - Retirement & Business Ventures 54:48 - TrueFuels & Nutrition 56:03 - Norseman Triathlon 1:02:15 - Future Events 1:04:12 - Alex Yee & Future of Triathlon 1:06:14 - Room 101 1:07:10 - Outro & Brownlee Foundation

Lucy Georgia joins me this week to chat running, content creation, and launching her own sunglasses brand, Sonny. We go back to how we first met, why she kept her social media private for years, her Ironman 70.3 and marathon majors, the real story behind building Sonny from scratch, and a Room 101 where she tells me exactly what she can't stand... Lucy: https://www.instagram.com/lucyge0rgia/?hl=en Calum: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/?hl=en⁠ Watch on Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb⁠ Follow on TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod⁠ Follow on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod⁠ Calum's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/⁠ Calum's TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard ⁠ YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A ⁠ Contact: [email protected] Chapters below. 00:00 - Kicking things off 0:45 - Welcoming Lucy Georgia 1:30 - How they met on the Tour de France 3:37 - The truth about her surname 5:18 - Keeping life private before going public 8:02 - Her first ever social media post 11:20 - Classics degree and life after uni 12:40 - Becoming a runfluencer 15:00 - Women, sport, and confidence 16:56 - Imposter syndrome in running 19:51 - Her first race: Hackney Half 22:25 - Investing in Runna 24:32 - Turning content into a business 28:42 - Losing the joy and burning out 29:06 - Keeping her relationship offline 31:44 - Dealing with online hate 33:19 - Taking on an Ironman 70.3 37:14 - Why she'll never do a full Ironman 42:16 - The idea behind Sonny sunglasses 45:48 - Designing and manufacturing the glasses 49:46 - Branding and choosing the name 53:27 - Unboxing Sonny sunglasses 56:10 - What's next for the brand 1:00:58 - Creator led brands and the future 1:04:49 - Why YouTube is her anchor 1:07:57 - Her favourite YouTube channels 1:14:39 - Room 101: things Lucy hates 1:24:11 - Wrapping up and where to buy Sonny

Running coach Gabriel Smith joins for round three, breaking down how he a marathon DNF into a 3-minute PB (2:26:46 at London), what actually changed in his training, and why he thinks a carefree summer; why beers, holidays and late nights don't have to kill your progress. We also get into marathon psychology, Josh Kerr's 1500m world record, and living with Hugo Fry. Gabriel: https://www.instagram.com/gabriel__smithh/?hl=en Calum: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/?hl=en Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3WGIXQz6Pa0V9WIa4gIxOV?si=e19d4acb7b964eeb Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@motionalintelligencepod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/motionalintelligencepod Calum's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calumgoddard/ Calum's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@calumgoddard YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC4g2mhwrlRBzXhAsyXVWz4A Contact: [email protected] 0:00:00 - Intro0:00:32 - Welcome Back Gabriel Smith0:01:11 - Life as a Running Coach0:04:36 - Balancing Fun and Training in Summer0:13:29 - London Marathon Recap: 2:26 PB0:21:18 - What Changed This Marathon Block0:27:32 - Planning the Next Marathon0:33:10 - Building Towards Winter Training0:44:28 - Advice for First-Time Marathoners0:48:21 - Josh Kerr's World Record & Race Psychology0:55:13 - Triathlon Prep0:59:20 - Commonwealth Games1:02:52 - Random Tangents & Viral Clips1:09:25 - Living with Hugo Fry1:14:40 - Outro & Predictions