The Swiftie and The Scholar

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4.9
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224 reviews
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28 episodes
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Date created
2025/07/24
Latest episode
2026/02/05
Average duration
58 min.
Release period
9 days

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A weekly podcast exploring the lyrics, lore, and literary legacy of Taylor Swift. Hosted by Angela McDow, the Swiftie, and Dr. Jerry Coats, the Scholar, we read between the lines AND the liner notes. Join us each week for lyrical deep dive through Taylor Swift's eras.

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The Satire of Blank Space
2026/02/05
In this episode, we are covering the fourth song that Taylor Swift submitted to be considered for induction into the Songwriters Hall of Fame—Blank Space. This 1989 track was one of her first pop hits, and Uncle Jerry finds the humorous and feminist lenses the poem was written through to be interesting to dissect. We’ll wrap the conversation up and talk about the songs as a whole collection next week. Works Cited: Tabula Rasa Dactyl Iamb Yellow Rose of Texas The Ballad of Jed Clampett Gilligan’s Island Theme Song Ballad Meter The Gallic Wars The Twelve Caesars – Suetonius – Aff Link The Madwoman in the Attic – Sandra M. Gilbert and Susan Gubar – Aff Link Jane Eyre: Deluxe Painted Edition – Charlotte Bronte – Aff Link The Yellow Wallpaper Blank Space Music Video Black Space Voice Memo Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠ Uncle Jerry’s Instagram
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The Self-Deprecation of Anti-Hero
2026/01/29
We’re back and we’re kicking 2026 off with the three remaining tracks from Taylor’s submission to the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Spoiler alert: she was inducted! We’ll talk more about that in the final of these three episodes, but today we are focused on Anti-Hero. Uncle Jerry wonders about Taylor’s psychological status when writing this song and Angela has an A-ha! moment about how the music cues us to maybe feel differently than the lyrics alone would make us feel. Works Cited: First Person Deixis Charles Barkley Nike Commercial Beauty and the Beast (1991) Brigid Kaelin on Instagram Taylor talking about Anti-Hero Anti-Hero Music Video Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠ Uncle Jerry Instagram
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The Resolutions of Love in New Year’s Day
2026/01/01
Happy New Year! With New Year’s Day on our episode release day, it only felt right to cover this masterpiece from Reputation. Uncle Jerry unknowingly connects this song with many others, blowing Angela’s mind once again.  We’re taking a short break after this episode, but we’ll see you back here in a few weeks with more poetry! Works Cited: Nine Princes in Amber – Roger Zelazny – Aff Link When Harry Met Sally (1989) A Tale of Two Cities – Charles Dickens – Aff Link The Sun Also Rises – Ernest Hemingway – Aff Link A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning – John Donne Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Intertextuality of ‘Tis the Damn Season
2025/12/24
Merry Christmas! Sorry for the sad song choice, but it just felt right. We’re trudging down the road not taken with evermore’s ‘tis the damn season. Uncle Jerry isn’t so sure about this one at first, but he comes around by the end.  Works Cited: Trope Sweet Home Alabama (2002) The Family Man (2000) Frank Capra Autofiction Catcher in the Rye – J.D. Salinger – Aff Link The Road Not Taken – Robert Frost Intertextuality Fire and Ice – Robert Frost Mending Wall – Robert Frost Look Homeward, Angel – Thomas Wolfe – Aff Link You Can’t Go Home Again – Thomas Wolfe – Aff Link Tis The Damn Season – Lyric Video Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Double Entendre of LOML
2025/12/18
This is one of our most requested episodes, and here it is, just in time for the holidays! Uncle Jerry picked up on something that Angela had never noticed in the poem, and they get into a bit of the Tay-lore about what inspired The Tortured Poets Department.  Works Cited: e.e. cummings The Fates of Greek Mythology Just Kids – Patti Smith – Aff Link Breaking Up Is Hard to Do – Neil Sedaka Water Lilies – Claude Monet T.S. Eliot Misery (1990) Synecdoche Epistrophe Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The 80s Club Vibes of New Romantics
2025/12/11
After all the talk about Romanticism in the last episode, we’re taking it to the New Romantics this week. Uncle Jerry teaches us all about the sociocultural movement of the late 1970s and 1980s called New Romanticism, featuring The Blitz Kids, the London club scene, and all the fun and freedom of the era. Works Cited: Neoclassicism vs. Romanticism David Bowie Boy George Annie Lennox The Blitz Kids Sweet Dreams: The Story of the New Romantics – Dylan Jones – Aff Link Spandau Ballet Steve Strange Best of New Romantics – Spotify Playlist Road to Ruin – The Ramones Heartbreak Is the National Anthem – Rob Sheffield – Aff Link Adam Ant Taylor Swift’s Manuscripts – Natali Barbani Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Romanticism of The Lakes
2025/12/04
We are letting Taylor Swift take us to the lakes today! These are the lyrics Angela used to convince Uncle Jerry to do this podcast, and his analysis does not disappoint. Come with us to learn all about Romanticism, The Lakes Poets, and how Taylor expertly weaves those two into this poem. Works Cited: A Brief Guide to Romanticism The Lake Poets Lyrical Ballads – William Wordsworth and Samuel Taylor Coleridge – Aff Link Sense and Sensibility – Jane Austen – Aff Link Romanticism vs. Neoclassicism The Last of the Mohicans – 1992 William Wordsworth Samuel Taylor Coleridge Dorothy Wordsworth Dove Cottage Robert Southey Thomas De Quincy John Keats Percy Bysshe Shelley Tales from Shakespeare – Charles Lamb and Mary Lamb John Ruskin Harriet Martineau The Lake Isle of Innisfree – William Butler Yeats Sonnets from the Portuguese 20: Beloved, my Beloved, when I think – Elizabeth Barrett Browning Sonnets from the Portuguese – Elizabeth Barrett Browning – Full Book Aff Link The Passionate Shepherd to His Love – Christopher Marlowe Hartley Coleridge  Poetic Inversion Aurora Leigh – Elizabeth Barrett Browning Frankenstein – Mary Shelley – Aff Link I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud – William Wordsworth Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Fairytale Diction of Enchanted
2025/11/27
We are finally covering a song from Speak Now! I’m so sorry to all the Speak Now stans that it took this long, but we got here. Uncle Jerry takes us through Taylor’s word choice throughout Enchanted, and how it reveals the specific fairy tale inspiration behind the song. Angela explains the lore of this being Taylor’s only completely self-written album and the moment that inspired the song.  Works Cited: Trochee / Trochaic Meter Smiling Faces Sometimes – The Undisputed Truth We Wear the Mask – Paul Laurence Dunbar Caesura Mending Wall – Robert Frost Indirect Discourse Metonymy Some Enchanted Evening – South Pacific Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Gothic Tradition of The Black Dog
2025/11/20
In this episode, we dig into one of most requested songs of late, The Black Dog. Taylor Swift mentioned in an interview that no one really understood this song, so we got Uncle Jerry on the case. Tune in to hear his take! Works Cited: Roland Barthes – The Death of The Author She Walks in Beauty – Lord Byron The Hound of the Baskervilles – Sir Arthur Conan Doyle – Aff Link The Malleus Maleficarum – Heinrich Kramer, James Sprenger – Aff Link For The Love of London Pubs – Doug Harper, Vic Norman, Andie Lafrentz – Aff Link The Pub: A Cultural Institution – Pete Brown – Aff Link Polysyndeton Of Mice and Men – John Steinbeck – Aff Link To a Mouse – Robert Burns Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram
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The Loss of Youth and Innocence in Peter
2025/11/13
Well friends, I think we did it. Stay all the way to the end for a big surprise out of Uncle Jerry. In this episode, we're covering one of Angela's favorite TTPD tracks, Peter. Uncle Jerry finds layer after layer in the poem, and decides that this is a beautiful, melancholic reflection on the loss of innocence and youth, told through the lens of Peter Pan. Works Cited: Peter Pan - the Original 1911 Classic – J.M. Barrie – Aff Link Illustrated Peter Pan: Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens – J.M. Barrie – Aff Link The Dead Poets Society (1989) I'm sorry for the Dead—Today – Emily Dickinson  This Is Just To Say – William Carlos Williams In Just – Spring – e.e. cummings  Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening – Robert Frost Love's Labor's Lost – William Shakespeare  Lyric Video Peter Surprise Song Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Traditional Tropes of Love Story
2025/11/06
We’re taking it back to high school this week and exploring the country phenomenon that is Love Story. This is our first track from Fearless (2008), and Uncle Jerry explores all of the themes and tropes that are missing from the poem when compared to her current work, like complex metaphors and twisted idioms. Works Cited: Romeo and Juliet – William Shakespeare – Affiliate Link Catullus – Roman Poet Let Us Live and Love (5) – Catullus The Scarlet Letter – Nathaniel Hawthorne – Aff Link Easy A (2010) Doctor Zhivago – Boris Pasternak – Aff Link Deconstructionism Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Cinematic Imagery of Father Figure
2025/10/30
Step into our office and leave it with us. We protect the family! Join us as we walk through Father Figure from The Life of a Showgirl. Uncle Jerry gives his theories on the inspiration for the song, including many different movies, and Angela works out where she thinks the narrator changes mid-track. Pour yourself some brown liquor and you won’t be sleeping with the fishes. Works Cited: A Star is Born – All Versions Ranked All About Eve (1950) Goodfellas (1990) The Godfather (1972) The Freshman (1990) Ragged Dick: The 1868 Classic Rags to Riches Tale – Horatio Alger – Affiliate Link Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Reinterpretation of The Fate of Ophelia
2025/10/23
We have officially entered our Showgirl era, and we’re kicking it off with The Fate of Ophelia. Uncle Jerry teaches us all about Ophelia’s role in Hamlet, one of the Ophelia paintings Taylor may have drawn inspiration from, and a couple of feminist critics’ takes on Ophelia.  We then get into the song, Angela weaves in a few nuggets of Tay-lore, and they round it out by discussing the feminist issues with the track,  watching the music video and listening to the voice memo of the writing of the song.  Works Cited: Hamlet – William Shakespeare – Affiliate Link What are Foil Characters? Representing Ophelia: Women, Madness, and the Responsibilities of Feminist Criticism  – Elaine Showalter Hearing Ophelia: Gender and Tragic Discourse in "Hamlet" – Sandra K. Fischer Desolation Row – Bob Dylan The Story of Ophelia – The Tate Pre-Raphaelite Women – Jan Marsh Dante Gabriel Rossetti – Ash Russell The Essential Pre-Raphaelites – Lucinda Hawksley – Aff Link The Language of Flowers – Margaret Pickston – Aff Link The Country Diary of an Edwardian Lady – Edith Holden – Aff Link The King’s Two Bodies – Ernst Kantorowicz – Aff Link Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Sensory Imagery of Maroon
2025/10/16
We are wiping the incense dust off the shelf and picking ourselves up off the floor with Maroon this week. This Midnights track from 2022 is full of imagery, senses, colors, and so much more. Uncle Jerry also surprises us all with an interpretation from left field, which allows Angela the space to explain a specific sect of swifties. Enjoy! Works Cited: Richard Wright – Black American novelist Parallelism in Literature Robert Frost – The Road Not Taken Robert Frost – Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening Lawrence Ferlinghetti – American Beat poet Gregory Corso – American Beat poet Jack Kerouac – American Beat poet On The Road – Jack Kerouac Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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The Growth and Healing of Clean
2025/10/09
We’re coming down from our Showgirl high, and taking it back to 1989 this week. Uncle Jerry takes us through Clean, and breaks down the metaphors and themes found in the poem, including addiction, healing, personal growth, and personal agency. He also asks Angela who this song was inspired by, and admits that he’s now wondering about that in all of these songs. :)  There are links below to (most of!) the recommended literature from the episode. Some links are affiliate links, which means if you click and purchase, we will make a small commission at no cost to you. Works Cited: Metaphors We Live By –  George Lakoff and Mark Johnson The Great War and Modern Memory – Paul Fussell Not Waving but Drowning – Stevie Smith Afterwards – Sara Teasdale After Love – Sara Teasdale Follow Us: ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠Angela’s Instagram⁠
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4.9 out of 5
224 reviews
Lindsay_Barrett 2026/01/23
A literary and musical JOY
I’ve always loved Taylor’s lyrics, but listening to this podcast has given me such a deeper appreciation for her skill as a poet. I’m a writer myself ...
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Hilbo4life 2026/01/23
So fun, and informative!
I am loving this so much. What a great duo and premise for a podcast. Keep going! I’m a few episodes in and really enjoying this as a light but also i...
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FromWagstoRichs 2026/01/22
Life Giving
Wish I could give this podcast 100 stars! ❤️ Love these two so much! As a high school English teacher, Uncle Jerry’s analysis and Angela’s connections...
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Krousehouse1357 2026/01/19
New fan
With everything going on in the world, this podcast has been a balm to my soul over the last few weeks. I’ve listened to almost all of them and can’t ...
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Rebekah Jansen 2026/01/15
I bet Taylor Swift herself listens to this podcast. AMAZING! INTELLIGENT!
This is bridge between heaven & earth that we all needed! I’m anxiously awaiting more episodes highlighting faith crisis themes! And I hope Uncle Jerr...
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supermariegirl 2026/01/15
Love
As a fairly new Swiftie I love listening to Dr. Jerry give insights on the poems and appreciate that Angela knows so much about Tay ”lore” which is mo...
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Egott25 2026/01/13
✨Actual Lyrical Analysis✨
I’ve been searching for a podcast like this for a long time. I don’t want to listen to people gossip about Taylor’s life. I don’t want to hear “she’s ...
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Toni_over50Swiftie 2026/01/01
Review of Peter
My favorite episode so far. Peter has been one of my top 3 favorite Taylor Swift songs (poems). The ranking depends on my emotional state. DrJerry’s r...
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Like Really! 2026/01/11
Need a filter
5 stars for the scholar, but the incessant and incomprehensible giggling of the co-host makes it difficult to listen to. If only there was a way to f...
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CJH&H 2025/12/31
Everything I Needed
As a middle school English teacher and Swiftie, I am obsessed! I stumbled across your podcast and have been binge listening to catch up to your most r...
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