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61 episodes
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Angela McDow | Dr. Jerry CoatsExplicit
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Date created
2025/07/24
Latest episode
2026/10/01
Average duration
79 min.
Release period
7 days
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A weekly podcast exploring the lyrics, lore, and literary legacy of Taylor Swift. Hosted by Angela McDow, the Swiftie, and Dr. Jerry Coats, the Scholar, we read between the lines AND the liner notes. Join us each week for lyrical deep dive through Taylor Swift's eras.
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The Despair and Persistence of This is Me Trying
2026/10/01
We’ve made it to the end of the folklore road! Join Uncle Jerry and Angela as they discuss this is me trying, where the duo finds some Typical Taylor, ambiguity, paradox, multiple meanings, and so much more.
Come back for the next two weeks as we wrap-up discussion of the album as a whole.
Works Cited:
Couplets
Heroic couplets
Anaphora
Starship Troopers (1997)
Enjambment
Ellipsis
In medias res
The Odyssey – Homer
Caesura
Why I Write – Joan Didion
Simile
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The Secretive Destruction of Illicit Affairs
2026/09/24
Today we’re covering our penultimate folklore poem with Illicit Affairs. Uncle Jerry finds this song fits perfectly within the category of folklore, and shows us just how Taylor Swift’s use of language showcases the lack of love in this song.
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Works Cited:
Interlocutor
Imperative verb
Dramatic irony
The Book of Jonah
Synecdoche
The Road Not Taken – Robert Frost
Aphorism
Assonance
Alliteration
*The Pleasure of the Text – Roland Barthes
Anaphora
Synesthesia
Sonnet 138 – William Shakespeare
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The Paradox and Parallelism of Peace
2026/09/17
Did we finally find Uncle Jerry’s least favorite folklore poem? And maybe Angela’s too? In this episode, we dissect Peace from Taylor Swift’s 2020 album, and Uncle Jerry finds many paradoxes and double meanings, while struggling to find a window to crawl through into the narrative.
Works Cited:
Paradox
Apostrophe
Synecdoche
I Would Die 4 U – Prince
You’ve Got a Friend in Me – Randy Newman
Easy Silence – The Chicks
Two Sleepy People – Fats Waller
Stuck in the Middle With You – Stealers Wheel
You Are My Sunshine – Jimmie Davis
Standing In The Rain – John Paul Young
Standing In The Rain – Al Green
Standing In The Rain – Electric Light Orchestra
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Time’s Mystic Meandering in Invisible String
2026/09/10
Buckle up, folks. This is a long one! Invisible String is up next in our folklore canon, and Uncle Jerry showed up PREPARED. He and Angela chat through folktales about the red thread, handfasting ceremonies, and more before diving into the poem. They then get into a long and philosophical conversation about fate and predestination and Forrest Gump.
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Works Cited:
All in green went my love riding – e.e. Cummings
Leaves of Grass – Walt Whitman
Red thread of fate
Handfasting
Pope Innocent III and Handfasting
2 Kings 14:21 – 16 as the age of ascension
Epizeuxis
*The Sun Also Rises – Ernest Hemingway
Enjambment
Metanarrative
Synecdoche
Goddesses of Fate
Heart of Darkness – Joseph Conrad
Caesura
Forrest Gump – Winston Groom
Forrest Gump (1994)
Design – Robert Frost
Hap – Thomas Hardy
Proverbs 16:33
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The Lives We Didn’t Live in The 1
2026/09/03
We have the opening track of folklore for you today! Uncle Jerry and Angela discuss the relatable way Taylor Swift writes about the ruminations about the different lives we never got to live during this discussion of The 1.
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Works Cited:
The Windhover – Gerard Manley Hopkins
Ellipsis
Caesura
Ernest Hemingway’s Iceberg Theory
Contrafactuality
Sight rhyme or eye rhyme
*The Great Gatsby – F. Scott Fitzgerald
Trochaic Hexameter
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The Devastating Paradox of Hoax
2026/08/27
In this episode, we are covering Hoax, the closing track from 2020’s folklore. Uncle Jerry starts out a bit iffy on his feelings about the poem, but talking through it with Angela helps him find extra meaning.
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Works Cited:
Anaphora
Ellipsis
Oxymoron
Polysemy
Parallelism
Paradox
Fatalism
Faithless Love – Linda Ronstadt
i sing of Olaf glad and big – e.e. cummings
To a Mouse – Robert Burns
*Of Mice and Men – John Steinbeck
To a Louse – Robert Burns
Jonah 3 – Jonah Goes to Nineveh
Synecdoche
Metanarrative
The Lord’s Prayer
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The Tragedy of Miscommunication in Exile
2026/08/20
Continuing along our folklore journey, this episode covers exile, the collaboration between Taylor Swift and Bon Iver. Uncle Jerry teaches us about different types of exile and how they appear across literature and folk tales. We then dig into the poem and Uncle Jerry admits to Angela that he almost cheated and listened to the song because he was so ready to hear how they spoke over each other.
Also, ICYMI, we will be finishing the entire folklore album. Stay tuned over the next few weeks as we tackle the remaining tracks and then do a comprehensive overview.
Song discussion starts at 19:12
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Works Cited:
Just Give Me a Reason – Pink ft. Nate Ruess
The Divine Comedy – Dante Alighieri
Gilgamesh, Nature, and Civilization
Paradise Lost – John Milton
The Odyssey – Homer
Exile of Ovid
Poems From Exile: Ex Ponto, Book I – Ovid
*Frankenstein – Mary Shelley
*Crime and Punishment – Fyodor Dostoevsky
*Ulysses – James Joyce
*Dubliners – James Joyce
*A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man – James Joyce
Polyphony in Contemporary Literature
Dramatic irony
Assonance
Alliteration
Iambic tetrameter
Iambic trimeter
Ballad meter or common measure
Synecdoche
Phaedrus
Epistrophe
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Finding Life’s Meaning in Epiphany
2026/08/13
We are tackling one of the most underrated tracks from Taylor Swift’s folklore album, epiphany. The poem compares past war tragedies to 2020’s pandemic, and Uncle Jerry uses the poem to teach us about Hemingway’s Iceberg Theory.
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Works Cited:
Wilfred Owen
Siegfried Sassoon
The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell
The Angels at Hamburg – Randall Jarrell
Vignette poems
Rhapsody on a Windy Night – T. S. Eliot
Trochees
Iambs
The Song of Hiawatha – Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Ernest Hemingway’s Iceberg Theory
*Death in the Afternoon – Ernest Hemingway
Caesura
Parallelism
Synecdoche
*The Things They Carried: The Classic Work of American Literature on War, Memory, and Storytelling –Tim O'Brien
*Man's Search for Meaning – Viktor E. Frankl
Sonnet 19: When I consider how my light is spent – John Milton
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Imagined Futures in Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
2026/08/06
We are back in our Tortured Poets Era with Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus. This song was much-requested and was voted on by our Patreon subscribers. Angela and Uncle Jerry talk through the poem and Uncle Jerry concedes that sometimes we try to find too much meaning in certain images.
Works Cited:
Sadie and Maud – Gwendolyn Brooks
maggie and milly and molly and may – e.e. cummings
[in Just-] – e.e. cummings
Brylcreem commercial
Synecdoche
Sonnet 12 – William Shakespeare
Sonnet 60 – William Shakespeare
Sonnet 73 – William Shakespeare
My Boyfriend’s Back – The Angels
Cold Cold Heart – Hank Williams
Ellipse in Linguistics
To His Coy Mistress – Andrew Marvell
Tricolon
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Finding Agency in Dear John
2026/07/30
We’re back in our Speak Now era with Dear John. Angela explains the lore behind this quintessential track 5 from Taylor Swift, and Uncle Jerry talks himself into being a fan of this poem.
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Works Cited:
Dear John Letter
Agnes von Kurowsky
*A Farewell to Arms – Ernest Hemingway
A Dear John Letter – Jean Shepard & Ferlin Husky
Dear John Letter – Whitney Houston
Epistolary frame
Poetic Inversion
Dramatic Irony
Metapoetry
Metonymy
The Scholar-Gipsy – Matthew Arnold
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The Peak of Innocence in Seven
2026/07/23
This week is the one year podcast anniversary, and Angela saved this song especially for this episode. But before we tackle seven from folklore, Angela and Uncle Jerry reflect on the past year and Angela surprises him with a little quiz to see just how much he’s learned about Taylor Swift and swiftie culture.
Thanks for being here with us!
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Works Cited:
7 as the number of completion
Apostrophe
Imperatives
Pastoral PoetryDramatic Irony
Assonance
To His Coy Mistress – Andrew Marvell
American Primitive – Mary Oliver*
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Superficial Celebrity Criticism in Shake It Off
2026/07/16
We’re taking it back to 1989 with the only Taylor Swift song Uncle Jerry knew before we started this project. Angela expected this to be a quick, simple episode, but Uncle Jerry found a lot of deeper meaning in the glitter gel pen poem.
Works Cited:
Catalog Poem
Dr. J. Don Vann
A Handbook to Literature – William Harmon & Hugh Holman – Aff Link
Goblin Market – Christina Rossetti
Why We Oppose Pockets for Women – Alice Duer Miller
Anaphora
Metonymy
Onomatopoeia
Epizeuxis
Polyptoton
Tautological
The Waking – Theodore Roethke
Apostrophe
Shake It Off music video
Stars – Richard Dyer – Aff Link
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The Mosaic of Love in State of Grace
2026/07/09
Today we return to Angela’s beloved Red era with State of Grace! Uncle Jerry surprises her with his excitement about the poem, and they go through all the ideas of love Taylor presents throughout the opening track.
And there’s gravy all over the plate!
Works Cited:
In medias res
Kinetic or kinesthetic imagery
Metonymy
Parallel structure
A Midsummer Night's Dream – William Shakespeare – Aff Link
Concrete Poetry
A to Z Horoscope Maker and Interpreter – Llewellyn George – Aff Link
Synecdoche
Synecdoche vs. metonymy
Litotes
The Literate Mode of Cicero's Legal Rhetoric – Dr. Richard Leo Enos Ph.D. – Aff Link
Manos: The Hands of Fate – (1966)
Hesiod – Richard Lattimore – Aff Link
Sonnet 130: My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun – William Shakespeare
Tricolon
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The Coming of Age Narrative in You’re On Your Own, Kid
2026/07/02
Angela finally introduces Uncle Jerry to a pivotal track 5 from Taylor Swift’s discography—You’re On Your Own, Kid. They discuss the real life events that could have inspired the song and Uncle Jerry talks about other pieces of pop culture that tell a similar story.
Works Cited:
Anaphora
Colloquial diction
Dramatic irony
Free indirect discourse
Verbal irony
Auditory imagery
Metonymy
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn – Mark Twain – Aff link
The Divine Comedy – Dante Alighieri – Aff link
Sonnet 73 – William Shakespeare
The Great Escape (1963)
Li'l Abner
Parataxis
Father and Son – Cat Stevens
Keep a-Goin’ – Frank L. Stanton
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The Chronicles of Conflict in The Great War
2026/06/25
In this episode, Uncle Jerry and Angela tackle The Great War from 2022’s Midnights. Uncle Jerry wrestles with the idea of using a horrific event as a metaphor, and he teaches all about the many floral symbols used throughout the poem.
Works Cited:
The Country Diary of an Edwardian Lady – Edith Holden – Aff Link
The Great War and Modern Memory – Paul Fussell – Aff Link
The Strange Destiny of Rupert Brooke Hardcover – John Lehmann
Siegfried Sassoon
Memoirs of an Infantry Officer: The Memoirs of George Sherston – Siegfried Sassoon – Aff Link
Goodbye to All That – Robert Graves – Aff Link
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
War Poems – Wilfred Owen – Aff Link
Dulce et Decorum Est – Wilfred Owen
Poetry of the First World War: An Anthology – Tim Kendall – Aff Link
The Soldier – Rupert Brooke
In Flanders Fields – John McCrae
The History and Rhymes of the Lost Battalion – Buck Private McCollum – Aff Link
Crimson & Clover – Tommy James and the Shondells
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steph from tx 2026/09/12
Delightful
I don’t think you could call me a Swiftie, but I’ve always been a fan. I’m really enjoying the literary discussions and discovering more about Taylor’...
LitSwiftie 2026/08/28
Love!
As someone who is an absolute Swiftie and someone who has both a BA and a MA in English, this is absolutely perfect for my brain. My only gripe is the...
Stuckimoderate 2026/08/24
Great Podcast!
I really enjoy this podcast. As a relatively new fan of Taylor Swift, I am appreciative of the literary analysis, and I’ve learned a lot about some s...
me🍍 2026/08/13
An absolute delight
This podcast has ~swiftly~ become one of my favorites. It has the best lyrical analysis! My dad has become even more of a Swiftie than me and it has b...
JDog1994 2026/08/06
LOVE
Absolutely OBSESSED with Dr uncle Jerry and his journey to becoming a swiftie! This is hands down my favorite swiftie podcast and I love learning new ...
Pengy_0612 2026/07/30
Great but the giggling.
I really enjoy this podcast. The insights into lyrics and literary references by the scholar are phenomenal. I think the swiftie is bubbly and uplifti...
Jesse E.P. 2026/07/27
My favorite music podcast!
Thursday is my favorite day of the week thanks to this podcast! It teaches me something new every week, makes me laugh, and I feel connected to Angela...
MVBAILEY 2026/07/03
great listening!
I love listening to the break down of all of Taylor’s songs. You both have brought new meaning to her lyrics and shed light on certain portions of son...
Gem RN 2026/06/25
My favorite podcast!
I can’t rave enough about this podcast! Everything about it is so good! I love the energy between Angela and Uncle Jerry, Dr Uncle Jerry’s dissecting ...
Smw05312219 2026/06/04
Love! Love! Love!
Thank you for highlighting Taylor’s exceptional writing. I have learned so much listening to you both. It’s so fun! We need some merch! 🫶
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