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Experience the world of CNC machine controls and manufacturing usability in this episode focused on how human factors impact shop efficiency and operator skill. The discussion centers on usability in CNC workflows, the often-overlooked costs of training and error, and how solutions like Kinetic OS seek to bridge the gap between seasoned machinists and newer operators. With decades of manufacturing experience, insights touch on the evolution of machine controls, the persistent "clunkiness" of interfaces, and how improved user experiences can address labor shortages and operational safety. Along with practical demonstrations, listeners get a quick-fire round of trade secrets, and a glimpse into the parallels between engineering and sailing. ——— Connect with CNC Underground on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cnc-underground  Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Mike on LinkedIn: The Legetti Performance website: https://legettiperformance.com/ BEC Machining LLC website: https://becmachining.com/ Neilsen Norman Group link to write up describing usability:  https://www.nngroup.com/articles/usability-101-introduction-to-usability/ Neilsen Norman Group link to video describing usability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st9AEPOjGpU&t=53s ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com

CNC Underground Afterhours pushes past the marketing buzz to take a hard look at AI’s real impact on the machine shop floor. Industry veteran Tanmay, founder and CEO of Lambda Function, joins to discuss AI, automation vs. autonomy, and the relationship between technology and the artistry of CNC machining.  Learn why trust is harder to build with AI in manufacturing, what matters most to shop owners, and which tasks AI can and can’t handle today. Understand the future potential for AI-driven CNC, what’s holding back wider adoption, and how knowledge capture is changing the industry. Plus, the conversation takes a thoughtful look at psychology, learning from children, and finding inspiration outside manufacturing. ——— Connect with CNC Underground on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cnc-underground  Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Tanmay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanmayaggarwal/  Connect with Lambda Function on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lambda-function/  ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— Chapters:00:00 Brand new part: Would you let AI run it?00:33 AI in manufacturing: Buzzwords vs. reality02:10 Path to Lambda Function and CNC programming04:48 The problem Lambda Function is solving05:55 Does Lambda’s AI actually learn from customer data?07:24 Why static G-code doesn’t work for a dynamic world09:54 Opinionated programmers and the art of CNC11:00 How little the general public understands CNC12:49 The difference between automation and autonomy13:33 Why true autonomy is so hard in CNC15:32 Will CNC become AINC? (AI numerical control)16:41 Change on the shop floor: What actually matters18:03 Knowledge capture, institutional memory, and scaling expertise19:41 Why trust matters more than the tech itself22:11 AI trust at work vs. in consumer life23:17 Risks, tolerance, and the role of human oversight24:05 Machinists as technologists and technology adoption in manufacturing25:49 Technology adoption speed and production risk26:46 AI or Absolutely Not? Game: What will you actually let AI do?29:39 Where AI can (and can’t) replace tribal knowledge32:48 AI isn’t here to replace people33:14 The skills gap and getting kids interested in manufacturing35:17 How technology can make CNC more accessible for the next generation37:47 The impact of 3D printing’s accessibility39:47 Why CNC isn’t as plug-and-play as people expect42:22 The value of problem-solving and engineering with kids45:14 The future: Iterating quickly, pragmatic solutions, and shop owner impact46:21 Market curiosity to active discovery for AI in CNC48:34 Predicting the machine shop of 203553:52 What will feel normal in 5 years?55:08 Examples of near-term AI applications on the shop floor57:12 Psychology, running, golf, and learning outside CNC58:05 How psychology affects business and leadership01:02:21 Lessons kids teach that business school can’t01:03:56 The biggest surprises about bringing AI to manufacturing01:07:22 Stay connected and closing thoughts

From unexpected acts of support at IMTS to the power of community in the trades, this episode dives into firsthand stories of women forging connections, gaining confidence, and challenging stereotypes in manufacturing. Listeners will hear about standout moments on the showroom floor, the impact of supportive networks like the Sisterhood of Trades, and how leadership and process can make or break a shop’s culture. Key themes include fostering inclusion, overcoming old technology with sheer determination, and championing second chances for those reentering the workforce.  Whether it’s stories from the shop floor or insights on building meaningful relationships in the industry, the conversation promises both inspiration and practical perspectives for anyone curious about what truly matters in modern manufacturing. ——— Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Nush on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nushrata/  Connect with Melissa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-m-368802328/  Connect with Kathryn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathryn-bomyea-04b906351/  ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com  ————————————————————————————————— 00:00 Can Great People Overcome Bad Technology?00:31 The CNC Underground After Hours Crew at IMTS02:18 Stories and Connections: Badass Workbench & Racing03:47 Friendship, Support, and Workbench Quality04:23 Historic Machines: The Original Bridgeport at IMTS05:12 First-Time IMTS Reactions and the Power of Community06:25 How the Group Experience Came Together07:03 Gratitude for Supportive Companies and Donors08:09 Confidence and Growth After IMTS09:07 How Community Empowers Individuals10:11 Learning Leadership at IMTS11:09 Networking with Industry Leaders and Allies12:15 Outreach in Manufacturing: Drew Crowe’s Story13:53 Second Chances, Skills Training, and Returning Citizens15:21 Community, Trades, and Finding Purpose16:02 Changing Perceptions of Manufacturing Work17:20 Shop Floor Insights from a Working Machinist18:29 Perspectives on Precision Grinding20:22 Grinding: Skills, Details, and Misconceptions21:31 New Tech, Smarter Work, and Shop Solutions22:57 What’s Real vs. The IMTS “Show”23:49 Walking the Show Floor with Content Creators and Allies24:42 Attitude, Self-Teaching, and Industry Influencers26:13 Shutdown Millwright: Seeing the Industry from the Field27:36 Understanding How Parts Are Made28:50 IMTS as an Industry Showcase and Stigma Breaker29:21 Shop Floor Debate: What Drives Change—Leadership, Process, People, or Tech?30:25 Real Talk: Leadership and Process on the Shop Floor32:14 Can Great People Beat Bad Technology?33:22 The Power of Crew Support, Team Loyalty, and Culture34:44 Workplace Cultures That Make the Difference36:22 Why Attending as a Group Matters37:20 Connecting with Students and the Next Generation38:06 Women Who Paved the Way in Trades39:57 Teachers and Mentors: The Impact on Career Paths40:19 Sisterhood of Trades: Mission and How to Join44:05 Finding the Sisterhood: Personal Stories45:44 The Power of Support and Friendship in Trades47:27 IMTS: Never Thought I’d Go—Now Life-Changing48:03 Feeling Seen, Supported, and Celebrated48:03 Slightly Dangerous IMTS Questions: Overrated or Underrated?49:53 Expectations vs. Reality at IMTS50:17 Lightning Round: IMTS Impressions & What Matters Most52:33 Where to Connect with the Sisterhood of Trades and Guests

Tony Gunn shares a unique perspective shaped by decades on the shop floor and years spent visiting hundreds of manufacturing facilities worldwide. This episode covers the real difference between successful and struggling shops, what cleanliness and organization reveal about operations, and how global trends in automation and technology are impacting manufacturing everywhere. The conversation addresses the myths and realities of American manufacturing, including what the U.S. does well, where other countries lead, and how lessons from international shops can inform better practices closer to home. Topics include workforce challenges, how compensation compares to other industries, the critical role of trust in vendor relationships, and practical ways automation can help bridge skills gaps. With stories from visits to shops in Brazil, Germany, Japan, India, Switzerland, and beyond, the episode highlights what each manufacturing culture excels at—from education and automation to precision, respect for the trade, and the willingness to invest in new tech. Listeners also get advice for making the most of trade shows like IMTS and insight into what manufacturing professionals really complain about (and how some of those issues could actually be easier to address than expected). Whether you're a machinist, shop owner, or industry newcomer, this conversation brings honest perspective on where manufacturing stands today and where it's headed. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with CNC Underground on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cnc-underground  Connect with CNC Underground on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@midwestcamsolutions  Connect with Tony on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theworldwidemachinist/  Connect with Tony on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealworldwidemachinist  Connect with Tony on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWorldWideMachinist  The Machinists Club: https://www.themachinistsclub.com/ ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com —————————————————————————————————

Across the skilled trades, the hiring crisis has taken center stage but is it really only a shortage of applicants, or are businesses struggling just as much with retention? This episode breaks down why the trades are facing not just a hiring gap, but a “90-day problem,” where new hires often leave within weeks or months. The discussion confronts common misconceptions, the power and pitfalls of mentorship, generational divides, and evolving workplace expectations. Listeners get both practical perspectives and real-world advice on making the trades an “option A,” not just an option B. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-brown-b1736a5/  Andrew Brown’s Linktree: https://linktr.ee/andrewbrowntrades  ——— Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— Chapters:00:00 The Skilled Trades Labor Crisis: By the Numbers00:37 Redefining the Problem: Retention vs. Hiring01:51 The “90-Day Problem” and Mismatched Expectations03:54 Realities of Working in the Trades05:35 Onboarding and Setting Expectations06:16 The Role and Impact of Mentorship08:03 Team Mentality, Knowledge-Sharing, and Obstacles09:29 Identifying True Mentors: Skills vs. Disposition11:38 Culture, Leadership, and Who Should Lead12:46 “Ghosting,” Work Ethic, and Generational Differences14:22 Can the Next Generation Fill the Gap?15:55 Skill vs. Will: What Makes a Retainable Employee16:53 Toxic Cultures and the Importance of Fit17:51 Building the "Perfect Apprentice": What Matters Most21:47 Experience vs. Culture: Rethinking the Hiring Process23:12 Gen Z in the Trades: Stereotypes and Reality24:32 Adapting to Generational Learning Styles26:13 The Impact of Technology and Industry Change27:00 Patience, Feedback, and Development in the Modern Workforce28:29 What Young Workers Are Really Asking For30:38 Pitching the Trades: Scenarios for Youth and Parents33:59 Are the Trades a Step Backwards? Considering Options35:57 Looking Ahead: The Cost of Inaction37:39 Industry Leadership and the Backbone of the Economy38:41 Guest Resources and Where to Learn More39:13 Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts

America’s manufacturing sector faces critical decisions on reshoring, workforce development, and automation. In this episode, Harry Moser, founder of the Reshoring Initiative, shares more than 50 years of industry experience and a practical look at what it will take to strengthen US manufacturing. Harry breaks down why short-term thinking hurts manufacturers, how Total Cost of Ownership changes sourcing decisions, where reshoring opportunities exist, and why workforce development, automation, and smarter purchasing decisions all matter. If you run a machine shop, manage supply chains, or care about the future of American manufacturing, this conversation is packed with real examples, useful tools, and actionable ideas. Connect with Jess:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina:https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Harry:https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-moser-58a8024/ Reshoring Initiative:https://reshorenow.org/ Total Cost of Ownership Calculator:https://reshorenow.org/tco-estimator/ Import Substitution Program:https://reshorenow.org/isp/ Join CNC Underground:https://swiy.co/cncunderground CNC Underground is the weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ machinists and programmers for practical CAM tips, tooling strategies, shop-floor insight, and manufacturing news. About Midwest CAM Solutions:The world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers improve productivity through CAM software, training, and support.www.midwestcamsolutions.com CHAPTERS 00:00 Short-Term Mentality in US Manufacturing00:57 Harry Moser’s Background and Motivation03:14 Family Legacy and Industry Changes04:17 Founding the Reshoring Initiative06:00 Early Resistance and the Role of TCO06:43 What Surprises Manufacturers about TCO07:57 Geopolitical Risks and Supply Chains09:10 Partnerships vs. Vendors10:26 Long-Term Workforce Investment11:01 US vs. Europe Investment Patterns12:04 Why the Workforce Shortage Isn’t a Surprise13:15 Attracting Young Workers15:27 Visibility and Exposure in Manufacturing16:59 Manufacturing’s Image Problem19:42 Stories of Factories Closing21:02 Societal Costs of Manufacturing Decline21:46 Lowest Price vs. Total Cost22:18 How Many Manufacturers Use TCO23:34 TCO Examples That Changed Decisions25:05 Inventory Reduction and Hidden Benefits25:58 Other Overlooked TCO Factors27:58 Engineering and Manufacturing Proximity28:58 Bringing Programming Back In-House29:02 Advice for Shops Losing Bids30:02 Pricing, Freight, and Tariffs31:06 Competing with Overseas Providers32:21 Automation for Competitiveness33:02 Speed of Delivery as an Advantage34:03 Consumer Buying Habits35:07 Quality vs. Price36:06 Buying Decisions and US Jobs37:13 Apprenticeship Programs38:38 Building the Workforce Pipeline41:07 Can AI Make US Manufacturing Competitive?42:21 China vs. US Productivity43:11 Congressional Testimony and Tariffs44:31 Capital Equipment Tariffs45:32 US Steel Decline47:43 Industry Structure, Unions, and Change49:13 Generational Workforce Shifts51:56 Wage Pressure and the Dollar52:23 TCO and True Cost Differences54:06 Lightning Round55:19 Reshoring Success Stories58:08 Sourcing Decisions and US Jobs59:21 “Made in China” on American Symbols1:00:07 Reshoring Initiative Resources1:01:34 How Job Shops Can Find Opportunities1:04:01 Optimism and Next Steps1:04:41 IMTS and Where to Connect

This episode tackles the root of what’s really behind the so-called “talent shortage” in manufacturing, pulling apart the difference between a lack of skilled workers and mismatched expectations in the industry. Hear stories of hands-on learners who sidestep traditional training, companies willing, or unwilling, to invest in people, and how producers can build their own pipeline of machinists rather than waiting for the perfect candidate to walk in. Discussions highlight the value of attitude over experience, practical perspectives on automation, and what it really takes to foster loyalty and growth within a shop. The episode also features tangible examples, from a 19-year-old YouTube-taught entrepreneur to programs supporting military veterans, challenging what it means to “find good people” and offering real talk on leadership, culture, and building a sustainable workforce, plus, some fishing tales along the way. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Mark on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-christopher-5a4b839a/  ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— Chapters:00:00 Setting Expectations: Talent Shortage or Expectation Gap?00:34 Mark Christopher’s Background and Industry Involvement01:28 The Hiring Challenge: Who Are Shops Really Looking For?02:29 Skills Shopping vs. Talent Development03:01 Investment, Risk, and Fear of “Losing” Trained Workers04:34 Building the Industry by Investing in People05:35 Are Companies Consumers or Producers of Talent?07:16 Word of Mouth, Reputation, and the Teaching of Attitude07:49 Military Veterans: Untapped Talent Pool08:24 Education Pathways and Employability Traits11:43 Shop Floor Stories: Self-Taught Success with CNC Lathes16:11 Self-Made Machinists and Lessons Beyond the Classroom18:20 Where Professionalism and Accountability Start22:52 The Role of Parents and Mentors in Shaping Work Ethic25:05 Lightbulb Moments: Connecting Tech to Real-World Manufacturing26:50 “Keep It or Kill It:” Shop Management Decisions29:25 Equipment Strategy: Buying for Growth and Opportunity31:16 5-Axis Machines and Expanding Capabilities32:38 Attitude vs. Experience: Hiring the Right Mindset33:34 Flexibility for Top Performers35:29 Where Automation Truly Adds Value (and Its Limits)37:55 Automation, Job Loss Fears, and the Human Element40:03 Shop Floor Draft: Building a Realistic Team44:43 Leading Teams and Managing Personalities45:48 Work-Life Balance and Tournament Bass Fishing46:53 Most Memorable Catches—and What They Teach49:12 Fishing and Stress Relief for Machinists50:25 Why Manufacturing Careers Offer So Much Potential53:40 Connect with Mark Christopher: Career Advice and Networking

An unexpected path from Amish roots to CNC shop ownership sets the stage for a conversation about forging a career in manufacturing without a clear roadmap. This episode highlights how a hands-on upbringing built a foundation for curiosity and innovation, leading to a passion for machining and the drive to launch a successful business. Key topics include pinpointing ideal customers, addressing the challenges of training and mentoring new talent, and cultivating a workplace culture grounded in honesty and psychological safety. Listeners will hear thoughtful reflections on technology, problem-solving, and the nuances of work ethic across generations, along with real stories about overcoming setbacks and tough leadership decisions. Perfect for anyone considering their own leap into business or seeking fresh insights on building a thriving, people-centered shop. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Phil on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-miller-979158288/  ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— 00:00 Cold Open & Show Intro00:45 Phil Miller’s Early Background02:08 Childhood in the Shop02:14 First Jobs and Entry into Manufacturing02:41 Getting into CNC and the “Wow” Factor03:56 Transitioning from Manual to CNC04:12 Biggest Challenges in Learning CNC05:06 Deciding to Start a Machine Shop05:53 Realities of Business and Growing Reach06:53 Lessons from Customers and Business Upsets07:52 Advice for Identifying Ideal Customers09:08 Learning to Say “No” as a Business Owner10:00 Building Relationships with Customers10:25 “Then vs. Now”: Technology, Problem Solving, and Learning13:18 Generational Differences & Problem Solving Skills15:46 Work Ethic: Past vs. Present18:48 The Influence of Amish Community Values21:19 Changing Traditions and Mutual Aid23:29 Speed vs. Quality: What Matters Most24:28 Shop Culture and Psychological Safety26:14 Leadership & Supporting Employees27:55 Forgivable or Fireable: Real-Life Scenarios32:31 Parallels Between Parenting and Leadership33:21 Hiring for Work Ethic and Organization36:58 Training the Next Generation: Challenges and Solutions39:39 Communication, Clarity, and Employee Support42:32 Training the Next Generation: Why Is It So Hard to Find Good People?43:50 The Training Gap vs. Skills Gap44:55 Sharing Knowledge and Leadership Philosophy45:36 Approaches to Training New Hires46:47 Connecting with Phil Miller and Star Machine47:15 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs48:44 Closing Thoughts & Where to Connect

Running a machine shop is often called the hardest business in the world, and this episode covers the realities behind that statement. The conversation focused on why manufacturing and machining are so essential yet underappreciated, and what actually goes on when chaos is normalized in daily shop life. Addressing issues from tribal knowledge to retiring skilled employees, the discussion tackled workforce shortages, the impact of trades education, and how systems and structure, or lack thereof, can make or break a shop. A key theme that emerged was the risk that comes with relying on a single employee who knows "everything," as well as the pain points that occur when chaos becomes the norm rather than the exception. The discussion explored practical solutions for reducing risk and improving morale, featuring the origins, development, and everyday impact of ProShop ERP, a system designed by machinists, for machinists. Several points were raised, including mindset shifts needed to go from simply surviving to building a sustainable and enjoyable business. Listeners will find practical advice, relatable anecdotes, and strategies for fostering a positive culture and business success in an industry where every second, and every setup, matters. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulvanmetre/ ProShop: www.proshoperp.com and www.loveyourerp.com  ——— Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions: Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— Chapters:00:00 Introduction: Why Machine Shops Are So Challenging01:05 The Broader Impact of Manufacturing02:06 The Normalization of Chaos in Shops04:49 What Chaos Looks Like on the Shop Floor06:24 Knowing When Chaos Becomes a Real Problem07:28 The Risks of Relying on a Single Expert08:56 Retirement Wave and Labor Shortages10:03 Trades Education and the Stigma Around Manufacturing11:19 The Importance of Local Apprenticeships13:23 How Shops Can Attract and Retain Talent14:12 Gen CNC and Workforce Development Initiatives15:01 Why Some Shops Prefer Chaos to Structure16:16 Business Mindset Shifts for Shop Owners18:26 Recognizing Breaking Points in Business20:28 The Plateau: When "Good Enough" Isn't Enough22:38 Ego, Humility, and Shop Culture23:56 Reducing Key Person Risk and Knowledge Silos25:36 The Origins of ProShop ERP: Solving Chaos26:54 Building Systems That Work for Real Shops29:14 Turning Shop Solutions Into a Software Business32:04 What ProShop ERP Actually Does33:19 Going Beyond Traditional ERP Functions35:10 ProShop ERP as the Digital Backbone36:13 Reducing Tribal Knowledge Risk with Digital Tools37:30 The "Jimmy Casting": Documenting Processes38:41 Shop Game: Fix It or Live With It39:02 When to Fix Setup Sheets, Programming, and Paper Chaos41:31 Coping with Workarounds and Normalized Chaos44:08 How Small Fixes Add Up—Or Pile Up45:24 The Impact of Culture and Tools on Team Morale47:17 Practical Steps for Shop Leaders to Identify Problems49:57 Where to Learn More About ProShop ERP50:27 Closing Thoughts and Takeaways —————————————————————————————————

Get a front-row seat to the changing landscape of modern manufacturing as the microphones flip on Chris Luecke, host of Manufacturing Happy Hour. This episode covers content creation in manufacturing, skill gaps, amplifying new voices, technology trends, and leadership challenges, all delivered through candid conversations and personal stories. The discussion covers generational shifts, the power of industry communities, the evolution from buzzwords to real progress, and practical advice for standing out in a crowded space. Perfect for anyone on the shop floor or in the boardroom looking for actionable takeaways and real talk about where manufacturing is heading. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cwluecke/  Manufacturing Happy Hour: https://manufacturinghappyhour.com/  ——— Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— 00:00 Amplifying the Next Generation & Podcast Introduction01:35 The Nontraditional Path to Podcasting in Manufacturing03:05 Bringing Manufacturing Conversations into the Public Eye04:27 Why Storytelling Sometimes Falls Short in the Industry05:10 The Early Days of Manufacturing Content Creation06:04 Documenting Tribal Knowledge & the Generational Gap07:38 When Does a Side Project Become a Business?09:44 The Value of Candid Conversations in Manufacturing10:13 "Podcast Guest Bingo": Most Common Leadership Topics11:31 People as a Company's Greatest Asset—But How to Stand Out12:08 Digital Transformation: More Than a Buzzword13:39 Lessons from Implementing Digital Change14:08 The Reality of AI in Manufacturing Workplaces15:34 Addressing Fear and Early Adoption of AI16:40 Looking at How Fast Technology is Advancing17:27 Digital Transformation as a Continuous Process17:52 Data-Driven Decision Making: From Buzzword to Benchmark18:58 Digital Maintenance Platforms as Entry Points19:42 Busting the Biggest Myth in Manufacturing Today21:45 The Real Motivators for Young Talent24:22 How Communities Like Sisterhood of Trades Change the Game26:14 Every Generation's Role as Industry Disruptors27:51 Why Leaders Need to Step Aside for New Voices30:18 Trend or Buzzword? Industry 4.0, 5.0, Digital Twins & More35:06 Is Reshoring Real or Just Hype?39:04 Are "Lights Out" Factories Here?40:34 Off-the-Microphone Leadership Worries41:57 Finding and Empowering Talent in Manufacturing46:47 Attitude vs. Skill: Hiring Strategies in Manufacturing Today47:34 Company Culture: Why It Matters Now More Than Ever49:49 Behind-the-Scenes Questions and Surprising Answers54:13 Manufacturing Ecosystems & Regional Collaboration54:36 One Key Piece of Advice for Manufacturing Leaders55:58 Where to Find Manufacturing Happy Hour & Connect with Chris57:02 Closing Remarks and Takeaways

Caz, founder of Caztek Engineering and Caztek Precision, and Landon, director of Strategic Growth, share their no-nonsense approach to rapid business growth in precision manufacturing. Hear what happens when ambition collides with execution: from doubling company size to onboarding second shifts, investing in automation, and developing leadership. The conversation covers scaling teams, striking the balance between moving fast and getting it right, hiring the right talent, iterating on core values, integrating new technology, and finding the sweet spot between innovation and discipline. If you're building, scaling, or rethinking your business operations in manufacturing or engineering, this conversation reveals real-world approaches and honest reflection you won’t want to miss. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Landon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/landon-wiser-55455386/  Connect with Caz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/casimir-sienkiewicz-375a20/  ——— Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— 00:00 CNC Underground After Hours begins00:06 Show introduction and guest overview01:07 What Caz and Landon focus on right now02:48 Making the business scalable and building a team03:55 When to chase perfection vs making progress06:38 Lessons learned: allowing new hires to make mistakes10:05 How CazTek operates day-to-day11:14 Service offerings: engineering, prototyping, manufacturing12:58 Bringing more manufacturing in-house14:15 Division of responsibilities in operations and growth15:39 Industry trends: reshoring, manufacturing growth, tariffs15:59 Pursuing AS9100 certification and entering government work17:45 What happens when things go wrong internally?18:30 Saying yes too quickly vs waiting for readiness20:13 Out-of-the-box thinking at CazTek21:15 Fostering creative and cross-disciplinary solutions23:28 Ruby bearings and innovation stories from medtech25:58 CazTek’s role as a catalyst with OEMs and product development27:13 The drivers and practical steps for 100% growth30:24 Strategy shift: building leadership and middle management33:22 What broke first during scaling—and how hiring changed35:59 Attitude vs skill in hiring practices36:31 Aligning hiring/firing/accountability with core values37:00 Creating and preserving company culture38:27 What breaks operationally as growth demands new shifts41:05 Automating, AI, and the future of lights-out manufacturing46:47 Mistakes you only want to make once49:13 Machines, people, or process: what matters most in scaling a business?51:25 Planning for growth: foundation over speed53:19 Fielding diverse perspectives and learning from disagreements54:29 Hot Takes: automation, quoting, hiring, machines vs systems58:57 Fixing problems if starting from scratch in a shop62:13 The real goal: a great workplace and making an impact63:11 Strategy, vision, and the next debate

PLM: buzzword or necessity? Jessica welcomes Michael Finocchiaro, a product lifecycle management veteran, startup advisor, and outspoken industry observer, for a no-nonsense conversation about what PLM is, what it actually solves, lingering shop floor headaches, and why “single source of truth” might be the most misleading promise in digital manufacturing. Get straight talk about the evolution of CAD data management, the realities of digital threads, the hype versus substance of buzzwords like AI and the metaverse, and how startups are shaking up a space long dominated by enterprise giants. Michael breaks down the intersection of engineering and manufacturing, the fragmentation of today’s tools, and the future shape of digital shop floors. Whether you’re on the production line, in management, or wrangling unruly BOMs, this episode brings sharp insights and practical advice. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mfinocchiaro/  Michaels YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheFutureOfPLM  Websites: www.demystifyingplm.com. www.threaded.live  ——— Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— 00:00 AI Bubble or Forest Fire?00:30 Introducing Michael Finocchiaro & PLM 10102:26 CAD Origins and Product Data Management03:11 Why PLM Grew Beyond Files05:18 Bill of Materials & Truth Myths06:31 What PLM Actually Solves08:22 What Goes Wrong with PLM Implementations10:12 Why PLM & Manufacturing Remain Disconnected11:28 The Challenge of Tribal Knowledge12:26 Startups vs. Big Companies in Knowledge Capture12:52 Buzzword Bingo: Digital Thread, Twin, AI, and More15:26 Why Integration is Still Elusive16:03 Connecting Shop Floor, ERP, and PLM17:23 Does the Demand for Integration Actually Exist?18:57 Should Companies Go Early on AI?19:53 Startups Building Faster Solutions20:19 In-House Hack Jobs vs. Scalable Solutions22:17 How Cloud & “Best in Class” Are Actually Playing Out23:26 Is Metaverse Real for the Shop Floor?25:13 Why Mining Leads in Digital Twins & Automation26:40 Buzzwords Michael Thinks Will Fade27:38 What Makes Startups Exciting Right Now28:47 The Risks of Overhype & Why Fundamentals Win31:45 AI Bubble or Forest Fire Revisited33:09 Fundamentals: Real Engineering Still Matters35:40 Red Flags in Software Pitches38:03 How Creativity from Art & Music Influences Engineering39:56 Staying Open, Avoiding Tunnel Vision41:15 Where to Find Michael Finocchiaro42:06 Best Advice for Evaluating Software Demos43:03 Episode Wrap —————————————————————————————————

Tyler Stillson, president and owner of Operose Manufacturing, joins host Jessica for an honest discussion about growth, risk, and technology in modern manufacturing. From walking away from engineering school to building a multi-location business, Tyler shares the decisions, challenges, and lessons behind the scenes, from automation investments and scaling through acquisition, to the realities of losing customers and starting new product lines. Also covered are the shifting demands in equipment, the impact of AI on small business operations, and the truths every shop owner should face about cash flow and growth. Whether you’re a shop owner, machinist, or simply interested in how real-world manufacturing works today, this episode brings clarity to the pressures, opportunities, and responsibilities behind every investment and expansion. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Tyler on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-stilson-1715416/  The OpOne Group: https://op1group.com/  ——— Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ———————————————————————————————— Chapters:00:00 Hidden Stress & Realities of Ownership00:19 CNC Underground After Hours—Introduction01:12 Leaving Engineering School for Machining02:02 First Steps in the Machine Shop03:08 Getting Started with CNC Machines04:16 Long Commutes and the Leap to Ownership05:01 Moving to Minnesota & Changing Markets06:45 Operose: Then vs. Now08:30 Building OP1 Group and Acquisitions10:00 Different Shop Specialties & Capabilities11:16 What Capabilities Matter Most Today?12:13 The Decline of Wire EDM Demand14:16 Rapid-Fire: Good Idea or Expensive Mistake15:43 Investing in Equipment Before the Work18:06 Risks of Relying on One Big Customer19:11 Starting a Product Line Within a Shop21:22 Automation for Solving Labor Shortages22:21 Automation for High Mix, Low Volume23:49 Recovering After Losing a Major Customer24:54 Filling Gaps With Product Innovation25:54 Risk Lessons From Losing Customers28:00 Using Automation to Manage Workflows & Labor30:23 Scaling Production Without More Hires31:02 Downsides of Automation: Scrap Risks32:28 The Version You Don’t See: Buying Machines, Leadership Stress36:02 What Really Happens After Acquisitions39:05 Building Trust Post-Acquisition41:05 Does AI Move the Needle for Small Shops?42:02 Building DIY Tools with AI for Operations45:14 Measuring Productivity in Automated Shops46:14 First Steps Into Automation for CNC Shops47:40 Real Concerns and Opportunities With AI49:00 AI Lowering Barriers for Small Businesses50:51 The Growing Dependence on AI52:13 Leadership Lessons From Scaling Operations56:25 Why Standardizing Across Shops Can Fail57:26 The Hazards of “Build It and They Will Come”58:25 Cash Flow, Invoices, and Payment Struggles59:11 Where to Find More About OP1 Group1:00:32 Final Takeaways and Closing

Jim Vinoski joins CNC Underground AfterHours to share decades of experience in manufacturing, spanning engineering, leadership, writing, and advising. Mechanical engineer, former Forbes manufacturing columnist, industry podcaster, and longtime executive, Jim breaks down the evolution of factory work, the changing nature of automation, and the critical importance of both leadership and adaptable processes.  The conversation covers everything from early engineering surprises, navigating technology shifts like CNC and AI, to the need for upgrading work systems and training the next generation. If you’re interested in modern manufacturing, scaling your shop, or understanding the real stories behind American industry, this practical, candid discussion is for you. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Jim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimvinoski/  Jim’s Substack: https://manufacturingtalks.substack.com/  Jim’s Website: https://www.manufacturingtalks.com/  ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions:Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com ————————————————————————————————— 00:00 Introduction and Guest Background01:00 Bicycles and the Path to Engineering01:34 Early Surprises in Factory Work02:06 First Manufacturing Role02:22 Lessons in Leadership and Business03:32 Adapting to Modern Manufacturing04:47 Autonomy and Shop Culture Changes05:07 Major Shifts in Automation06:11 Hesitancy Around New Technology06:55 Embracing or Avoiding Change08:13 Falling Behind in Manufacturing09:44 Common Mistakes—Ignoring Work Systems10:40 Automation Beyond the Factory Floor12:14 Sparking Debate in Manufacturing Commentary13:01 Energy Prices and U.S. Competitiveness14:10 Trade, Offshoring, and Industrial Capacity15:07 Shipbuilding and National Security Gaps16:17 Regulation and Manufacturing Realities17:05 Does Automation Cost Jobs?18:42 Retaining High-Level Work in the U.S.19:49 What Divides Manufacturing Leaders20:38 Documenting vs. Working in the Business23:15 Systems That Enable Shop Growth25:28 Metrics That Matter: Cash Flow and More28:19 The Value of Community and Learning29:41 Creative Headlines—Communicating Manufacturing33:39 Engaging the Next Generation34:39 Audience and Intent in Writing36:38 Optimism for U.S. Manufacturing37:24 Advice for Industry Leaders and Learners39:07 Where to Follow Jim Vinoski

Get an inside look at the changing face of manufacturing and the skilled trades with hosts Jessica Bird and Darryl Gratrix, founder of NextGen Skilled Trades Consulting. Darryl shares his personal path from a non-technical background to a leader in Canadian manufacturing, addressing tough questions about why the industry is losing talent and what can actually be done to bring the next generation in. This conversation takes on classic myths about trade school, the realities of modern shops, and the shift from old-school “crusty” toolrooms to investing in people and technology. Learn how VR and AI are being used for training, the critical role of confidence versus skill, and what’s working to build a better future for tradespeople and manufacturers. Whether you’re a shop owner, educator, parent, or a student considering career options, this episode is packed with grounded advice, candid stories, and actionable ideas for changing perceptions and building community. ——— Connect with Jess on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicaurbans/ Connect with Christina on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinacasanova/ Connect with Darryl on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/darryl-gratrix-373827309/ ———Join CNC Underground Newsletter!  https://swiy.co/cncunderground Join CNC Underground — the go-to weekly newsletter read by 6,000+ elite machinists and programmers. Get cutting-edge tips, tooling strategies, CAM shortcuts, and industry updates in one tight, no-fluff email. ———— About Midwest CAM Solutions: Midwest CAM Solutions is the world’s largest GibbsCAM reseller, helping manufacturers boost productivity with expert CAM software solutions, training, and support. Learn more at: www.midwestcamsolutions.com —————————————————————————————————