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If we finance everything we buy, then someone is always performing the financing function—and someone is making money doing it. In Part 2 of Basic Understandings, Tricia and Jonathan continue through page 26 of R. Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker and unpack his instruction to: "Create an entity, a plan which you control, and makes money on your own loans." They explore what Nelson means by creating an entity, why control matters, and why he believed a properly designed, dividend-paying whole life insurance contract was particularly well suited for the Infinite Banking Concept®. Along the way, they compare policy loans with other places people commonly store and access capital, including retirement accounts and home equity, and examine the important distinction between owning an asset and actually controlling access to it. They also walk through the banking process taking place inside a mutually owned life insurance company—premiums coming in, money being lent and invested, earnings returning to the pool, and surplus profits potentially being shared with participating policy owners through dividends. Ultimately, this episode is about much more than life insurance. It is about deciding where your capital will accumulate, who will control it, what happens when you need to use it, and whether you will continue outsourcing the banking function—or begin building a financial system designed to serve you again and again over a lifetime. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

"You finance everything you buy." It may be one of the most important—and most misunderstood—statements in Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker. In this episode, Tricia and Jonathan return to the Basic Understandings section of the book and unpack the hidden cost of paying cash: opportunity cost. Using a simple $20,000 car example, they compare borrowing from a bank with saving and paying cash, showing why the interest rate alone doesn't necessarily tell you which option costs more. When we spend accumulated capital, we don't just give up the dollars—we also give up what those dollars could have continued earning. But what if we could stop repeatedly liquidating our capital? That question begins to reveal why dividend-paying whole life insurance is used in the Infinite Banking Concept: cash value can be collateralized to access financing while the underlying capital continues to grow. This isn't an argument to never pay cash. It's an invitation to recognize that cash has a cost too. Because if we really do finance everything we buy, the better question isn't whether we're going to finance—it's how. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com   Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

Libsyn Description In this final episode on Nelson Nash's chapter Creating the Entity, Tricia brings the discussion of misclassification full circle. Nelson begins the chapter by showing what happens when we misunderstand the characteristics of something valuable. But near the end, he presents the opposite problem: several very different products are all placed under the broad category of "permanent life insurance" and treated as though they are essentially the same. They aren't. Tricia walks through the differences between Whole Life, Universal Life, Indexed Universal Life, Variable Life, and Variable Universal Life — and explains why those distinctions matter when the objective is the Infinite Banking Concept. She also explores Nelson's criticism of Universal Life and Variable Life, the human-behavior problem created by flexible premiums, what an in-force illustration may reveal about long-term policy sustainability, and why dividend-paying Whole Life remains the required tool for practitioners implementing IBC through the Nelson Nash Institute. At the heart of the episode is a larger question: What happens when we misclassify a financial tool so badly that we no longer recognize what it is capable of doing? Sometimes the problem is not that the resource is missing. It is that we have failed to recognize what we already have. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

What if designing life insurance for the banking function requires doing almost the opposite of what we've always been taught? Most people shop for life insurance by asking how much death benefit they can get for the least amount of premium. Nelson Nash turns that thinking upside down. In Part 2 of Creating the Entity, Tricia is joined again by her friend and fellow Infinite Banking practitioner Becca Wilhite for an honest conversation about one of the passages in Becoming Your Own Banker that caused both of them to stop and ask, "Wait a minute…what exactly does he mean by that?" They dig into Nelson's statement that "the shorter the payment period, the better suited it is for the purposes of the Infinite Banking Concept," and explore how that fits with paid-up additions, the MEC line, capitalization, and designing a policy specifically for the banking function. They also discuss why Nelson never intended one policy to do the entire job, why building a system of policies matters, and how even our thinking about policy loans can be shaped by the financial categories we've been taught to use. When you stop solving primarily for the smallest premium and the largest immediate death benefit—and start solving for banking—the design can look completely upside down. But maybe that's the point. 🎙️ The Upside-Down Design for Banking | Creating the Entity, Part 2 ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

What if the thing everyone told you was outdated, inefficient—or even a bad financial product—was actually the gold you were looking for? In Part 1 of Creating the Entity, Tricia is joined by fellow Infinite Banking practitioner and Beaver Bankers author Becca Wilhite to unpack one of the most fascinating arguments in Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker. Nelson tells the story of the Spanish conquistadors searching Peru for gold. They found the potato instead—and because they classified it as something poisonous, they completely misunderstood what they had discovered. Nelson believed we may have done something very similar with whole life insurance. In this episode, Tricia and Becca explore why the shift from term insurance to whole life changed the nature of the product, why Becca describes that shift as moving from an "if" to a "when," how actuaries engineer these policies, what dividends really represent, and why Nelson believed whole life had been fundamentally misclassified. As Nelson put it, perhaps it would have been better named: "A banking system with a death benefit thrown in for good measure." Before we can create our own banking system, we first have to correctly understand the tool we're using to build it. And that may require looking at whole life insurance very differently. In Part 2, the conversation moves from identifying the tool to actually creating the entity—including policy design, paid-up additions, the MEC line, and a passage from Nelson that caused both Tricia and Becca to stop and ask: "Wait a minute…what exactly does he mean by that?" ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

Owning a whole life policy is not the same thing as becoming your own banker. In the final episode of Nelson Nash's section on the five human problems, Tricia and Jonathan explore what he meant by "Use It or Lose It." They address some of the most common questions surrounding the Infinite Banking Concept: Does borrowing against a policy make it grow? Why repay your own banking system with interest? And what are you really in danger of losing if you never put the concept into practice? They also discuss Mark 4:25, opportunity cost, the cost of using your own capital, and the common mistakes that can cause people to fall back into their old financial habits. The policy is an important tool—but the policy alone is not the point. IBC is a process that requires continued learning, capitalization, financing, repayment, patience, and practice. The real question is not simply whether you own a policy. It is whether you are actively becoming your own banker. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

What if the greatest obstacle to growth is not ignorance—but the belief that we already know? In this episode, Tricia and Jonathan explore what Nelson Nash calls The Arrival Syndrome: the prideful tendency to stop listening, stop learning, and assume we have already figured everything out. Through the story of W. Edwards Deming, the transformation of Japanese manufacturing, and Nelson's teaching on properly understanding the financial world, they discuss the importance of humility, discipline, and continuous improvement. They also examine how financial products can be misclassified, why the cost of capital matters, and how pride can appear at both ends of success—first by keeping us from learning and later by tempting us to believe we accomplished everything on our own. Nelson closes this section with a powerful prayer and a reminder from Deuteronomy that even our ability to produce wealth comes from God. Be curious. Ask better questions. Stay humble. And never assume there is nothing left to learn. Learn more at banklessbydesign.com. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

They had escaped slavery. Then they handed over their gold—and celebrated the thought of going back. Why would free people surrender their freedom? And why do we so often give up control of our financial lives, only to complain when someone else makes the rules? In Part 2 of our Golden Rule conversation, Tricia and Jonathan explore the surprising connections Nelson Nash makes between the Constitution, Shakespeare's "all the world's a stage," and the Israelites giving their gold to Aaron. At the center of it all is a profound role reversal. The Constitution was meant to help the people govern and restrain their government. In much the same way, Nelson argues that we have surrendered the banking function in our lives and accepted dependency on institutions that now control the capital and set the terms. In this episode: • Why people give up control even when they say they want freedom • How the servant quietly becomes the master • The difference between living as an owner and living as a dependent • Why the Israelites gave up their gold after escaping Egypt • Why freedom requires responsibility, discipline, and delayed gratification • Why becoming your own banker is about character—not merely policy mechanics The Golden Rule still holds: He who has the gold makes the rules. The question is: Why did we give it away? Learn more at banklessbydesign.com. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

Who really makes the rules in your financial life? In Part 1 of The Golden Rule, Tricia Miller and her son Jonathan continue walking through the Human Problems section of Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker. Nelson's financial version of the Golden Rule is blunt: "He who has the gold makes the rules." But this episode is not about greed, domination, or simply having more money. It is about capital ownership, responsibility, and control. Tricia and Jonathan unpack the difference between money and capital, why someone else must provide the capital if we fail to build our own, and how that keeps families dependent on banks, lenders, government rules, and outside systems. They also explore Nelson's Panasonic example, the long-range mindset required to build capital, and why premium in a properly designed whole life policy should be understood not merely as a bill, but as seed capital being put to work. This episode asks one simple but powerful question: Am I only making money, or am I building capital? ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

In Willie Sutton's Law Part 2, Tricia and Jonathan continue the Becoming Your Own Banker series with a bold and eye-opening conversation about the financial deals most people are taught to accept without question. Nelson Nash warned that wherever wealth accumulates, someone will try to get to it. In this episode, we look at qualified plans, employer matches, tax deferral, Wall Street, liquidity, and control — and ask whether the "responsible" path is always as safe and free as it sounds. This conversation is serious, but it is also practical, personal, and at times even funny. Tricia and Jonathan unpack the difference between saving and investing, the hidden cost of locked-up money, and why access to capital matters for the life right in front of you. This episode is not tax or investment advice. It is an invitation to think more clearly, ask better questions, and consider who really controls the banking function in your life. To learn more, visit banklessbydesign.com.

Libsyn Caption / Description In this episode of Bankless by Design, Tricia continues through Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker with Willie Sutton's Law, Part 1: When the Law Becomes the Thief. This conversation explores the chapter's deeper themes of legal plunder, taxation, control, and the question of who really has a claim on your wealth once it begins to accumulate. Even for listeners who may not agree with all of Nash's political or economic views, the central principle is worth considering: where your money sits, who controls it, and who can change the rules around it matters. This is Part 1 of a 2-part discussion.

Why would anyone put whole life insurance on a baby? In this episode, Tricia walks through a real policy illustration for a brand-new baby boy and explains why this decision is not about death — it is about life, insurability, capital, family banking, and generational stewardship. Money will flow through your child's life either way. The real question is: who will control the banking function? This episode explores dividend-paying whole life insurance, guaranteed cash value, policy loans, teaching children to value family capital, and what it means to build a financial environment for the next generation. Learn more at banklessbydesign.com. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com   Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

This episode feels a little like storytime — and honestly, it fits. Tricia and Jonathan continue their conversation on Parkinson's Law by turning to one of Tricia's favorite old financial classics: The Richest Man in Babylon. Nelson Nash shows us the problem: expenses tend to rise to meet income. But The Richest Man in Babylon gives us a practical place to begin. Tricia brings her love of old books and timeless wisdom into the conversation, reading from the story itself and connecting it to the discipline of creating margin. Together, they walk through the ideas of fattening the purse, paying yourself first, controlling expenditures, and learning to distinguish between true necessities and casual wishes. If you feel stuck living paycheck to paycheck and wonder how to begin building capital, this episode offers a simple and practical starting place.

In this episode, Tricia and Jonathan begin Part Two of Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker, where Nash turns from the technical side of Infinite Banking to the human problems. The focus today is Parkinson's Law — the reality that expenses tend to rise to meet income. More money will not fix our finances if our habits, appetites, and spending keep recreating the same problem. Tricia also explains why becoming your own banker is not magic. The policy is a tool, but the person using it must still practice discipline, stewardship, and self-government. Before we can govern our money, we have to be willing to govern ourselves. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.

What does it really mean to "pay yourself back"? In Part 2 of this conversation, Tricia Miller and her son Jonathan continue through Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker and unpack one of the most important principles of Infinite Banking: if you are going to become the banker, you have to act like the banker. They discuss repaying policy loans with discipline, paying interest back into the system, and why Nelson warns against stealing from your own banking system. This episode also explores how one policy can grow into a system of policies that can serve your family for generations. Learn more at banklessbydesign.com. ------------------------------------------   Follow Thrivewell 👉 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Thrivewell/61578207568360/ 👉 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bankless_by_design/ 👉 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107769593  👉 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thrivewell_bbd   Get In Touch: [email protected] Learn More: banklessbydesign.com     Disclaimer: All content on this site is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. The content shared is not intended to be a substitute for consultation with the appropriate professional. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of Tricia Miller, unless otherwise specifically cited. The data that is presented is believed to be from reliable sources, and no representations are made by Tricia Miller, Thrivewell, and Bankless By Design as to another party's informational accuracy or completeness. All information or ideas provided should be discussed in detail with your Adviser, Financial Planner, Tax Consultant, Attorney, Investment Adviser or the appropriate professional prior to taking any action.