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Acadia Birthday Adventure with Danielle
2026/10/16
Hosts Celeste and Danielle recount a last-minute birthday trip to Acadia National Park, camping in the car and tackling multiple trails in 24 hours. Highlights include a pre-dawn hike to watch sunrise from Cadillac Mountain, cliff and loop hikes like Gorham and Great Head, and the scramble to see Bubble Rock at Jordan Pond.
They share funny mishaps (slips, close calls, an almond joke), practical tips about trail distances, parking/permits, coffee at the summit, and praise for perfect October weather—concluding that the trip was exhausting but unforgettable.
Ray Pinney’s Ultra Revolution
2026/10/02
Host Celeste Fong talks with Ray Pinney about starting trail running later in life, tackling 50-mile races and 100+ mile events, and finding purpose and community through ultras.
They discuss injuries and recovery, memorable races like Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim and the Race for the Ages, the mental highs and lows of ultra running, and how the trail community supports and inspires people of all ages.
Mogollon Monster: Surviving a 100‑Mile Desert Nightmare
2026/09/25
Host Celeste Fong and guest Greg Smith recount his brutal Mogollon Monster 100‑mile race in Arizona — battling dehydration, altitude sickness, splitting headaches, and a relentless desert climb over roughly 36 hours.
They reflect on the pressure of destination races, the lifeline of family crewing (Greg's dad and grandpa), mental problem‑solving in ultras, and the lessons he’ll use for future high‑altitude races.
Gobble, Gobble, Motherf*€%@*: Jigger Johnson Mayhem
2026/09/04
Hosts Celeste Fong, John Calabrese, and Ben Nalette recount their chaotic weekend at the Jigger Johnson 100-mile race in New Hampshire: long drives, camp chaos, bizarre aid-station encounters, and a brutal 15-hour stretch that led to a DNF. Along the way they bond over bad movies, messy stomach issues, trail culture, race logistics, and why they keep coming back for more.
Expect adult language, raw humor, and candid takes on ultrarunning life from the back of the pack.
Conquering Jigger Johnson: Taylor Verville’s 44-Hour Ultra Triumph
2026/08/28
Host Celeste Fong sits down with Taylor Verville and her crew—Marcus, Steve, and Mike—to relive the brutal and beautiful Jigger Johnson 100-mile race. They break down the technical terrain, logistics, pacer strategy, and the unexpected chaos that defined the event.
From dramatic road closures and tracker failures to dirt naps, fueling hacks, and a late-night finish, this episode captures the grit, strategy, and camaraderie behind one of New England’s toughest ultras.
Trails, Trash Talk & Taco Bell: Confessions of an Ultra Runner
2026/08/15
Celeste Fong talks with TJ, who shares his raw, funny and adult-only journey from extreme weight loss to becoming an ultra runner. They dig into his first races, how he fell in love with ultra-distance events, and why he prefers loops and self-supported runs.
The episode is full of candid race stories, training quirks, gritty race-day details, and the tight-knit trail community that keeps them coming back — plus plenty of humor, profanity, and real talk about fueling, injuries, and life changes along the way.
Surviving Anchor Down Ultra
2026/08/13
Hosts Celeste and Craig recap their experience at Anchor Down Ultra, a night-start loop race at Colt State Park that was defined by extreme heat and suffocating humidity. They describe the course, pacing strategies, aid-station realities, high DNF numbers, and the tight-knit, old-school ultrarunning community that keeps drawing them back.
The episode mixes gritty race details with personal moments — ice bandanas, fueling choices, mental and physical limits, finishing tallies, and the camaraderie, chaos, and humor that made a terrible race still feel worth returning to next year.
Who I Show Up As: The Mindset That Took Her From 5Ks to 100 Miles
2026/07/31
Host Celeste Fong welcomes Jess Roussell to discuss her emotional and hard-earned finish at Notchview reaching her 100-mile goal. They cover the mental battles of ultra running, the importance of crew and community, and practical race strategies like nutrition and pacing.
Jess also shares her coaching work, future ambitions (including Leadville), and the small joys that make endurance racing meaningful—from camping and post-race blues to glitter, friendships, and mashed potatoes.
Bingo, Glitter & Nicknames: Notchview Trail Banter
2026/07/17
Celeste Fong and friends take microphones on the trails at the Notchview event for a round of candid conversation: nicknames, bingo cards, glittered runners, and night-loop antics.
Expect laugh-out-loud moments, trail-side support, and the chaotic joy of midnight hills and headlamp mishaps as the group navigates community, competition, and constant banter.
DNF at Manitou's: Food Poisoning, Shame & Lessons Learned
2026/07/10
Host Celeste Fong talks with guest Greg Smith about his DNF at the Manitou's 50-mile race after severe food poisoning, and the physical and emotional aftermath.
They discuss coping with embarrassment, confronting fears, race nutrition, training mindset, and using a DNF as fuel for future goals.
Niagara Chaos with the Idiots
2026/06/26
Celeste and the crew recap a chaotic and hilarious trip to Niagara: a scenic 50K with unexpected cutoff drama, big PRs, ziplining over the falls, late-night fireworks, a fox sighting, and one very forgotten batch of cupcakes.
They share race surprises, course details, volunteer mix-ups, and why they’d do it again—maybe with more training and fewer Timbits.
Villain Origin Story: How a Boston Bib Caused a Trail Obsession
2026/06/19
Host Celeste Fong talks with Alyssa Freeze about her running journey — from starting during COVID to running Boston and falling in love with trail ultras.
They cover race stories (Notchview, Mid‑State, The Cut), crewing and pacing, gear frustrations (hydration vests and shoes), and surviving a severe storm that led to many DNFs.
Alongside lots of profanity and humor, the episode explores why trail community, mental toughness, and female-focused training matter, and teases upcoming races and plans.
Ticks, Spider Porn and a Lightsaber Finish — Chaos at The Butt
2026/06/12
On this adult-only episode, host Celeste Fong and her friends relive a brutal 50-mile race attempt at The Cut/The Butt. They recount the day’s highs and lows — extreme heat, a sudden thunderstorm, GI issues, a dramatic fall into a hole, ticks and spiders, and an unforgettable lightsaber-lit finish.
Between real talk and profanity-laced laughs, the group praises the crew and pacers who stuck around through the night, shares survival tips (and questionable decisions), and teases future plans to train more runners for the 112-mile event.
Race-Week Rituals
2026/06/05
Host Celeste Fong sits down with Greg to unpack the week before a race — the taper, sleep worries, last-minute research, family logistics, and the odd rituals runners use to feel prepared.
They cover practical advice on packing and gear (organized ultra bags, dual headlamps), fueling and GI challenges, heat prep, and balancing race ambitions with home life and recovery.
I Deserve the Best (and Walked Right Into It): Laughs, Fails & Ultra Talk
2026/05/29
Celeste and the crew trade profanity-laced stories and laugh-out-loud morning mishaps while debating whether anyone can truly be ready for an ultra—physically, mentally, and environmentally.
They dig into race planning, crew and pacer responsibilities, fueling hits and misses, upcoming races (Cut 50, Niagara Falls, Notch View, Anchor Down), and the importance of flexibility and camaraderie on the trail.
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starlitdazzle 2026/08/05
Former DCCS
Great to hear more of the back story of the DC Capital Striders. I never met Rick more than in passing but I led the Smithsonian run for about it a ye...
Boscorito 2025/10/17
Amazing ep and guest today!
I haven’t heard Joey’s perspective and story before! What a great springboard to talk about community, run burnout, depression, recovery and all the ...
Taylori 2025/08/19
Excellent!
Great first episode! Finally get to know the idiots and the story behind them! Glad you have started this and look forward to more episodes! I may eve...
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