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Scott Kupor is the director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM), which serves as the HR and talent agency for the federal government's roughly two million civilian employees. He worked with Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz at Loudcloud and Opsware, which sold to Hewlett-Packard in 2007. In 2009 he became the first employee of Andreessen Horowitz, where he spent 16 and a half years as managing partner, building the firm's operations and later investing in later-stage healthcare companies. Scott explains how a16z adapted Michael Ovitz's CAA model to venture capital, how the Skype deal and a willingness to market in an industry that considered it taboo accelerated the firm, and why he had to set his ego aside as the firm grew. He also shares why he left for government, why its incentive structure is "completely screwed up," how OPM is changing performance ratings and promotion rules, and how programs like Tech Force aim to bring young talent into government. He also tells the story of the underground mine in Boyers, Pennsylvania, where federal retirement paperwork was processed by hand for decades. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/scott-kupor Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Quitting HP mid-financial crisis to join a16z (00:01:37) His first day (00:04:00) How a16z copied Michael Ovitz's CAA playbook (00:10:18) After-hours bourbon in Marc Andreessen's office (00:13:31) The Skype deal that returned half the first fund (00:18:37) Why VCs thought marketing was beneath them (00:21:48) Swallowing his ego as a16z grew (00:27:12) Why he left a16z to run the government's HR (00:30:37) Why government is afraid to take any risk (00:33:24) Why 99.7% of federal employees get a passing grade (00:36:13) Recruiting 1,000 engineers into government (00:38:37) Only 7% of the federal workforce is under 30 (00:40:31) Why "a job for life" is the wrong pitch (00:43:09) Why the government would never have hired Big Balls (00:46:39) Why DOGE had to be a big bang (00:48:56) The underground mine with 400 million pages of paper (00:55:28) Why government has to accept some failure (00:57:14) How young people can join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rafael “Raf” Vivas is a founding team member of AppLovin, the digital advertising and marketing company led by Adam Foroughi, where he has worked since 2011 in roles spanning business development, eCommerce and growth marketing, and co-founded the game publisher Lion Studios. He started in performance marketing at 14 working for his older brother, dropped out of high school, and at 17 built his own mobile ad platform, where Adam was one of his customers. When Adam decided to build a competing ad network, he recruited Raf as his first business hire in 2011, and Raf's one condition was that he live in the office. Raf explains how a small, unfunded team beat VC-backed rivals by going all in on technology, why he started Lion Studios to beat one of AppLovin's own partners and grew it to over $250 million in revenue in two years, and why he walked away at 28 and came back after the IPO as the stock collapsed. He also shares why AppLovin is against delegation and keeps its team small, how his mentor Mark Rosner taught him that every detail matters, and the best advice he ever received. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/rafael-vivas Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Kicked out of his house at 16 (00:06:42) Starting his own ad platform at 17 (00:09:58) “Don't be mad, but I'm going to compete with you” (00:11:06) His one condition: living in the office (00:15:40) Turned down by VCs while already profitable (00:21:00) Why he's against delegation (00:24:15) Two years of persistence to land one customer (00:30:42) Lion Studios: built to kill a Cheetah (00:38:41) Walking away from AppLovin at 28 (00:44:13) The IPO that brought him back (00:45:44) The stock buyback that made $50 billion (01:01:01) The mentor who redlined the NDA (01:03:54) “Do you want to be Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods?” (01:05:46) The best advice he ever received: stay in the game Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kenn Ricci is the chairman and largest shareholder of Flexjet, a fractional private jet company that operates more than 360 aircraft and is the largest Gulfstream operator in the world. A former Air Force-trained pilot, Kenn bought a small Cleveland charter company in his twenties so he could keep flying, built it into Flight Options, lost control of it to Raytheon in 2002, and bought it back during the 2008 financial crisis before acquiring Flexjet from Bombardier in 2014. He explains how Warren Buffett’s purchase of NetJets unlocked his financing, why he avoids mergers, why he has kept Flexjet private, and why he gave his children their wealth early through a family limited partnership. He also shares the advice from Notre Dame’s Father Ted Hesburgh that shaped his idea of a life of significance, and why every Flexjet employee can fix a customer’s problem without approval. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/kenn-ricci Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Kenn's son had never flown commercial (00:02:34) Giving your kids their wealth while you're alive (00:07:03) Charlie Munger: "You give them the money" (00:15:57) The rule his kids made to avoid jealousy (00:25:36) Buying a failed charter company for $27,500 (00:35:05) Turned down by every bank until Buffett bought NetJets (00:39:33) $100 million in sales in 3 months (00:41:36) Why he hates mergers (00:42:58) Losing his company: the worst day of his life (00:52:15) Buying his company back in the financial crisis (00:56:08) The $600 million problem that led to Gulfstream (01:03:01) Father Hesburgh's 3 rules for a life of significance (01:05:47) Why he gave away everything he owned (01:09:57) Why any employee can comp a $300,000 trip Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nik Storonsky is the co-founder and CEO of Revolut, a digital bank valued at $115 billion that is available in 38 countries. A former trader, he started Revolut with a card for spending abroad without bank fees and expanded it into a full-service bank with the goal of becoming number one in 100 countries. Nik explains why founders have an edge over professional CEOs, how he runs Revolut like a machine, and why he funds product bets algorithmically, doubling down on winners and cutting losers. He discusses hiring self-guided people over experienced executives, what Europe's regulatory constraints taught him, why he keeps VCs off his board, starting the Quantum Light fund, buying ads across Europe's airports, and how AI is changing the way Revolut is organized. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/nik-storonsky Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Coming for Jamie Dimon's dinner (00:02:04) Building the #1 bank in 100 countries (00:06:12) Why founders beat professional CEOs (00:08:45) Revolut's biggest mistake (00:12:47) Why legacy banks can't innovate (00:17:20) Running a company like a machine (00:20:28) Funding winners and cutting losers like a trader (00:23:31) How AI is changing Revolut's team structure (00:25:23) 50 direct reports and spreading innovation fast (00:29:59) Hiring self-guided missiles (00:33:31) Too much money makes founders weaker (00:37:38) What Europe's constraints taught Revolut (00:41:08) Why VCs are like football cheerleaders (00:49:28) Starting a fund to compete with VCs (00:54:28) From zero marketing to buying Europe's airports (01:00:21) Funding moonshots like a global tech company (01:03:58) Building an unstoppable machine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kurt MacAlpine is a partner and the CEO of Corient, which manages approximately $525 billion in client assets. He became a first-time CEO at 39, believes wealth management was built on a flawed incentive structure, and applied a professional services partnership model to the industry. Kurt explains why Corient has one compensation plan and one P&L, how sharing the benefits of scale helps clients and partners, and why he kept building while the stock market questioned his strategy. He discusses buying back shares, taking CI Financial private with Mubadala Capital, integrating acquisitions, and building a business designed to last for generations. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/kurt-macalpine Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Deel: https://deel.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Building Corient and managing $525 billion (00:05:32) Why wealth management’s incentives are broken (00:11:42) Bringing the partnership model to wealth management (00:22:15) Sharing the benefits of scale with clients (00:24:25) One compensation plan, one P&L, no exceptions (00:27:58) Why independent wealth managers join Corient (00:39:21) Staying the course when the stock market disagrees (00:48:25) Betting on the business through share buybacks (00:51:52) Taking CI Financial private with Mubadala Capital (00:59:08) Acquiring great partners and building one company (01:04:43) Giving employees a voice in building the brand (01:12:39) Building a business that lasts for generations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ben Wilson is the host of “How To Take Over The World,” which is one of my favorite podcasts. How To Take Over The World examines history’s greatest leaders and conquerors, and has benefited millions of people. In this episode, we talk about the common traits among the individuals he has studied such as Napoleon, Leonardo da Vinci, Joan of Arc, Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and more. We also discuss the fact that Ben is battling advanced cancer.  He’s a good guy, a close friend, and one of my favorite podcasters. He has four young children. Please watch this episode and see if you can help with medicine, introductions, or donations. GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-ben-fight-cancer-support-his-treatment Ben's email: [email protected] (00:00:00) What Ben has learned from making How to Take Over the World and studying history’s greatest leaders. (00:55:51) Living like you're dying. Ben on facing cancer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alexandr Wang is the chief AI officer of Meta and co-founder of Scale AI. We talk about the seven-month effort to build Muse, why Meta focused on personal AI agents instead of coding, and how Mark Zuckerberg and Nat Friedman helped shape the product. Alexandr shares how Zuckerberg recruited him after Meta's Llama 4 setback, why he left Scale after nine years, and how he's rebuilding Meta's AI lab around small teams, exceptional talent, and minimal bureaucracy. We also discuss using memes to make a product go viral, the importance of having a single point of view, and why Alexandr believes AI could give everyone the ability to pursue bigger ambitions. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/alexandr-wang Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) The vision behind Muse (00:01:32) Discovering the potential of personal AI agents (00:03:34) Three years of therapy in one AI session (00:05:46) Building Muse in 7 months (00:09:16) Why Meta bet on personal AI (00:16:51) Mark Zuckerberg's obsession with improving products (00:20:15) How Meta knew Muse was ready to launch (00:23:32) Why great products need a single point of view (00:25:56) Making Meta cool again with memes (00:34:38) Building trust with AI agents (00:38:43) The future of human ambition (00:45:22) The call from Mark Zuckerberg that changed everything (00:52:13) Leaving Scale AI for Meta (00:55:19) Rebuilding Meta's AI lab from scratch (00:58:13) From founder to coach (01:05:55) The future billionaires at Alexandr's 19th birthday party (01:08:04) Diamond mining vs. building skyscrapers (01:09:21) Why Alexandr has more than 200 direct reports Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ari Emanuel is the co-founder of Endeavor, executive chair and CEO of TKO, executive chairman of WME Group, and founder of MARI. We talk about his $4.2 billion bet on the UFC, the ESPN deal that proved it right, lessons from Egon Durban and David Geffen, and how constantly making calls creates opportunities you can’t plan for. Ari also opens up about dyslexia, decades of insecurity, and learning to enjoy his life without losing the drive that built his businesses. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/ari-emanuel Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Deel: https://deel.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) The UFC negotiation that blew up (00:03:33) Meeting Egon Durban and buying IMG (00:07:30) Betting $4.2 billion on the UFC (00:15:16) Getting the ESPN deal done (00:22:58) Taking over William Morris (00:30:02) Starting Endeavor with a table and a phone (00:32:53) Why you won’t remember the extra $400 million (00:35:01) Stop telling yourself stories (00:39:21) David Geffen: Get in traffic and get hit (00:45:19) Why Ari rolls the calls (00:49:35) Building your own school of entrepreneurship (00:51:56) Learning from Elon Musk and betting on live events (00:53:58) Learning from Hollywood’s greatest agents (01:00:23) Outgrowing rage without losing ambition (01:10:10) Psychedelics, purpose, and letting go of legacy (01:18:18) How Entourage changed Ari’s life (01:22:32) Ari never had a plan B Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jeremy Stern is the editor-in-chief of Colossus, where he writes long-form profiles of leading entrepreneurs and investors. He goes behind the scenes of his reporting on Mark Zuckerberg, explaining how months of interviews revealed Zuckerberg’s fascination with Augustus, relentless competitive drive and commitment to building Meta for decades. Jeremy discusses why Meta’s distribution and infrastructure could give it an advantage in AI and why some founders seem incapable of walking away. He explains how a question about defense technology became his first profile, on Palmer Luckey, and why he brings the craft of fiction and poetry to writing about business. Jeremy also describes Scott Wu’s combination of mathematical genius, natural leadership and authenticity, and how Josh Kushner’s family history shaped his exploration of Thrive Capital and the American dream. The conversation closes with the story of Jeremy’s Russian professor, whose belief that people have an obligation to their gifts changed his life and helped shape how he sees the people he writes about. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/jeremy-stern Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alexander Taubman is the co-founder and CEO of Long Lake, a company that buys established service businesses and uses AI to improve how they operate. He explains Long Lake’s $6.3 billion deal for American Express Global Business Travel, why deploying AI in the real economy is difficult and why he sees productivity gains creating more jobs as businesses grow. Alex describes how Nexus, Long Lake’s AI platform, connects models to business data and workflows, why its engineers work alongside employees in the field and why he wants to own businesses rather than sell software. He shares how his grandfather’s idea of “threshold resistance” applies to AI adoption, what he learned at Goldman Sachs and Oaktree and how investing in founder-owned businesses through Taubman Capital prepared him to build Long Lake. Alex also discusses the influence of Danaher, Henry Singleton and John Malone, why he values partners who make him more ambitious and why Long Lake plans to hold its businesses for decades. Including Amex GBT, he expects more than $4 billion in combined revenue the following year and explains why he believes long-term compounding could eventually build a trillion-dollar company. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/alexander-taubman Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Deel: https://deel.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) The $6.3 billion Amex GBT deal (00:01:21) Bringing AI to the real economy (00:06:17) Why greater productivity can mean more jobs (00:11:29) A prepared mind and a tight acquisition filter (00:16:01) Nexus and the AI platform behind Long Lake (00:17:32) Put the engineers where the work happens (00:20:36) Why own the businesses instead of selling software? (00:22:28) Build tools people want to use (00:25:24) A high bar for talent, acquisitions and technology (00:28:03) What his grandfather taught him about removing friction (00:36:40) Learning capital allocation at Goldman Sachs and Oaktree (00:41:01) Buying founder-owned businesses with permanent capital (00:44:35) How the Long Lake team came together (00:47:26) The best partners make you more ambitious (00:49:28) More than $4 billion in projected revenue (00:53:32) Why going public could expand Long Lake’s ambition (00:54:23) Henry Singleton and staying flexible (00:55:57) John Malone and the businesses that will endure (00:57:57) Why Long Lake doesn’t plan to sell (01:00:13) Could Long Lake become a trillion-dollar company? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ronnie Fieg is the founder, CEO and creative director of Kith. At 13, he turned down an envelope of cash at his bar mitzvah to ask his cousin for a job, then spent 15 years working his way up from stock boy to buyer at David Z. He explains how growing up in Queens and working on 8th Street shaped his taste, how his first ASICS Gel-Lyte III collaboration landed on the front of The Wall Street Journal’s Pursuits section and why he still designs every product for himself first. Ronnie describes why Kith refuses to wholesale or license, why he opens new physical stores as online sales grow and why he believes luxury should mean how much people love what they buy. He also details how a failed white chocolate bread idea became Kith Treats, how he prices product so customers get more than they pay for and what he felt seeing all 1,800 of his shoe designs laid out in chronological order. Ronnie shares how an obsession with padel led to Kith Ivy, why he is expanding into hospitality with Ronnie’s and why growing up before the internet forced him to develop his own point of view. Show notes: https://davidsenra.com/episode/ronnie-fieg Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Deel: https://deel.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) You can’t work backwards from money (00:04:43) “Keep the envelope. I want a job.” (00:10:25) Why the CEO is also the fit model (00:18:43) The childhood shoe that launched his career (00:20:52) The Wall Street Journal, a line down the block and a visit from Adidas (00:26:48) Get rid of the crap (00:31:09) What luxury should actually mean (00:32:40) Why Kith doesn’t wholesale or license (00:38:24) Building the opposite of an arrogant sneaker shop (00:40:39) The Italian crook who registered Kith’s trademark (00:52:02) How a $20 deli experiment became Kith Treats (00:55:11) Serve your customers, don’t chase new ones (00:59:35) Always give people more than they pay for (01:02:41) Seeing 15 years of work laid out on the floor (01:12:00) Growing up before the algorithm (01:25:46) How a padel obsession created Kith Ivy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Peter Rahal is the co-founder of RXBAR, David Protein, and Medici Brands. After selling RXBAR for $600 million, he tried investing and quickly discovered he was miserable watching other people run companies. He explains why he returned to protein bars, why founders must deeply understand their products and how he plans to build the most important food company of the 21st century. Peter describes the intelligence, beauty and discipline behind David's brand, how growing up with dyslexia shaped his competitive drive and why he channels anger and resentment into company building. He also details his approach to hiring former founders, building a culture of truth seeking and humility and treating the organization itself as a product. Peter walks through the acquisition of his critical ingredient supplier, Epogee, the supply agreements that protected his business and what he would change about communicating the decision to other entrepreneurs. He shares why he chose Greenoaks as an investor, why speed matters more than maximizing a fundraising valuation and how he is building a decentralized organization where leaders master their products, confront problems and earn their autonomy. Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Deel: https://deel.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Life after selling RXBAR for $600 million (00:07:29) Going all in and burning the boats (00:11:48) Building the most important food company of the 21st century (00:13:49) How a brand is like a human being (00:21:07) Why Peter always chooses the hard path (00:28:17) From zero to $300 million in two years (00:29:59) Why Peter started selling frozen cod (00:32:51) The organization is the product (00:36:56) Why he recruits former founders (00:41:15) Buying his supplier and victimizing his competitors (00:51:56) How Neil Mehta and Greenoaks earned a spot on the cap table (00:55:47) How Peter fundraises (01:00:31) Running a business is like a river (01:04:16) Why the company is named Medici (01:06:28) Bureaucracy is not inevitable (01:11:48) Why Peter has 25 direct reports (01:16:06) Peter's principle of reactionary leadership support (01:17:45) On divine discontent and loving the fight Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Luca Ferrari is a co-founder of Bending Spoons, the technology company he built with his partners by rethinking how software businesses should hire, operate and allocate capital. He explains why Bending Spoons aspires to build “the best company there ever was,” why it favors raw talent and drive over experience and how a centralized talent team uses testing and more than 100 signals to identify exceptional people early. Luca describes the company’s culture of extreme ownership and relentless simplification, including why employees are given more work than they can possibly complete, why teams rotate across businesses and why Bending Spoons eliminated traditional job titles. He also details the proprietary operating system and AI tools that allow small teams to run acquired products such as Evernote, why Bending Spoons buys businesses to hold and transform rather than sell and how operational excellence gives it an advantage in acquisitions. Luca closes by discussing going public, his approach to negotiation and capital allocation and why he believes logic and rationality are more reliable than blindly following data. Show notes: https://davidsenra.com/episode/luca-ferrari Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Fanatical founders building enduring companies (00:01:23) Luca on building the best company there ever was (00:04:22) The origins of Bending Spoons (00:05:47) Talent and why experience is overrated (00:15:05) Turning hiring into a science (00:23:30) Why Bending Spoons doesn't use bonuses (00:29:26) Why everyone in the company has the same job (00:42:41) On finding great potential and saturating their capacity (00:49:50) Insisting on a culture of extreme ownership (00:59:28) Luca's principle of relentless simplification (01:05:15) Why Bending Spoons doesn't use job titles (01:10:27) The proprietary operating system behind Bending Spoons (01:17:07) Why Bending Spoons isn't private equity (01:19:32) How Bending Spoons acquired & transformed Evernote (01:28:01) How Bending Spoons uses AI (01:40:42) How Bending Spoons thinks about capital allocation (01:43:50) Why procrastination without laziness is good (01:46:46) Operational excellence is not optional (01:49:07) How Bending Spoons negotiates acquisitions (01:54:47) Logic over numbers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mati Staniszewski is the co-founder of ElevenLabs, an AI audio company he started in 2022 with his longtime friend Piotr Dąbkowski. He explains how a frustration with poorly dubbed content in Poland led them to build frontier speech technology, why ElevenLabs combines audio research with product deployment and how its focus on voice shapes where the company chooses to compete. Mati also describes the Palantir-inspired operating model behind ElevenLabs: small autonomous teams, a flat organization and forward deployed engineers who work directly with customers and feed what they learn back into the product. He discusses using AI to amplify human potential, helping people who have lost their voices speak again, why imperfections can make AI voices feel more human and his belief that voice will become one of the primary ways people interact with AI. After turning down multiple acquisition offers, Mati says he and Piotr are committed to building ElevenLabs independently and pursuing what they see as a rare opportunity to reshape how humans communicate with technology. Show notes: https://www.davidenra.com/mati-staniszewski Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Building an AI-Native Company Before ChatGPT (00:02:59) Why ElevenLabs Started With Audio & Dubbing (00:12:37) Research + Product Deployment: How ElevenLabs Is Built (00:16:15) Focus as a Competitive Advantage (00:18:47) Building an Ecosystem Around Voice (00:22:25) The Communication Platform & Deutsche Telekom (00:28:29) Forward Deployed Engineers & Lessons From Palantir (00:33:41) Flat Organizations, Transparency & AI-Native Management (00:37:19) Small Teams & Putting Engineers Everywhere (00:43:00) Where ElevenLabs Is Growing Fastest (00:44:38) Taste, Art & Science in AI (00:48:23) Using AI to Amplify Human Potential (00:55:19) Becoming an Entrepreneur & Building With Piotr (00:56:49) Why Mati Won't Sell ElevenLabs (01:04:01) Voice as the Interface for AI (01:06:49) Turning Conferences Into a Business Tool Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Zach Dell is the co-founder of Base Power, an energy company on a mission to make electricity more affordable and reliable. His starting insight was that home batteries had the wrong business model. Companies sold expensive backup systems that sat idle most of the time. Base installs batteries at homes, retains ownership and operates them as a fleet: charging when electricity is cheap, discharging when it is expensive and providing backup when the grid goes down. The homeowner gets lower electricity bills and backup power. Base gets an asset it can put to work every day. Dell explains why batteries can make the existing grid more efficient, why installing them where people consume electricity helps overcome infrastructure bottlenecks and how Base serves both homeowners and utilities. His strategy is to build a compounding cost advantage through vertical integration and technology. That now includes Base Core, a battery designed and manufactured by the company, and a longer-term ambition to help meet the growing power demands of AI. Dell grew up watching his father, Michael Dell, build a company and knew from childhood that he wanted to become an entrepreneur. After several early ventures failed, he went into investing to study what makes a great business. He describes the “Dad Terminal”—ongoing conversations with his father about strategy, operations and the problems in front of them—and the lessons Base has adopted from former SpaceX employees. Engineers and manufacturing teams work close together, and the entire company organizes around a few clearly defined goals. He also explains the operating habits behind Base: monthly written updates, visible performance dashboards and a physical turtle placed on the desk of the person responsible for resolving a critical bottleneck. He keeps separate notebooks for working in the business and working on it, setting aside time each night to think on paper without distractions. He discusses building a beloved brand in energy, why his co-founder conversations focus on what is going wrong and why Base is his last company. His ambition is a lifelong effort to make, move, store and sell electricity more affordably and reliably. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/zach-dell Made possible by Ramp: https://ramp.com AppLovin: https://applovin.com/senra Deel: https://deel.com/senra Chapters (00:00:00) Energy Abundance & the Power Demands of AI (00:06:15) How Batteries Make the Grid More Efficient (00:09:09) Early Ventures & the Insight Behind Base (00:15:34) We Don't Sell Batteries. We Sell Electricity. (00:22:25) How Base Works With Utilities & Competes for Customers (00:30:44) Learning From Michael Dell: The "Dad Terminal" (00:32:22) Vertical Integration & Lessons From SpaceX (00:39:34) Writing Clearly & Making Time to Think (00:44:53) North Stars, Turtles & Relentless Execution (00:53:55) Learning From Great Founders & Building a Beloved Brand (00:56:27) What's Your Constraint? (01:06:26) Base Core & Taking Control of Manufacturing (01:11:02) A Lifelong Mission & the Last Company He'll Build Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices