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What are the world's biggest investors actually saying right now? And what can we learn from the legends who came before them? Every episode, we go source-by-source through interviews, reports, and predictions from investors like Cathie Wood, Ray Dalio, and Stanley Druckenmiller—plus deep dives into the timeless lessons from trading legends like Jesse Livermore and Paul Tudor Jones. No speculation. Just verified quotes, specific predictions, and the strategies behind the world's greatest money minds. This is Money Men.
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Novo Nordisk(Ozempic) Crash: The Fall of the Obesity King ($50B Wiped Out)
2026/02/06
$50 BILLION DOLLARS. Gone. In a single trading session.
Yesterday, Novo Nordisk—the company behind Ozempic and Wegovy, the company that basically invented the weight loss drug revolution—watched 18% of its market value disappear in hours.
But here's what makes this story wild. After the crash, their new CEO got in front of investors and said: "People should expect that it goes down before it comes back up."
He told them it gets worse from here.
Today's Show:
The Crash: $50B wiped out, 18% drop, guidance 10x worse than expectedThe Trump Factor: TrumpRx forced an 85% price cut on WegovyThe Competition: Eli Lilly's next-gen drug showing 28.7% weight lossThe Knockoffs: Compounding pharmacies selling semaglutide for $200 vs $1,000The Leadership Shakeup: New CEO, US chief leaving, former CEO back as chairmanThe Denmark Problem: One company = 40% of the Copenhagen Stock ExchangeBull vs Bear Case: Volume play or falling knife?Key Numbers:
Stock drop: 18% in one day2025 performance: Down 50%Guidance: Sales DOWN 5-13% (analysts expected -1.4%)Wegovy pill signups: 170,000 in first 4 weeksPrice cut: $1,000/month → $149/month (85% reduction)Eli Lilly next-gen results: 28.7% average weight lossSources Referenced:
CNBC: Novo Nordisk Stock Crashes on 2026 GuidanceReuters: Novo Nordisk Issues Bleak 2026 ForecastReuters: Trump Obesity Drug Deal with Novo and LillyReuters: Lilly's Next-Gen Drug Tops Zepbound in TrialsYahoo Finance: Novo Nordisk Shares Tumble 18%Euronews: Novo Nordisk Stock Sinks After Bleak ForecastCEO Quotes (Mike Doustdar):
"People should expect that it goes down before it comes back up""No matter how well the pill does, the price hit on the existing business trumps the great pill launch""We are creating affordability for millions of patients who simply could not afford it"Chapters:
00:00 - The $50 Billion Crash01:15 - What Is Novo Nordisk?02:30 - The Catastrophic 2026 Guidance03:45 - CEO Says "It Gets Worse"05:00 - The Trump Factor: 85% Price Cut06:30 - Eli Lilly Is Winning08:00 - Compounding Pharmacies09:00 - Leadership Shakeup10:00 - The Denmark Problem11:00 - What Analysts Are Saying12:00 - Bull Case vs Bear Case14:30 - What To Watch15:45 - Final ThoughtsFollow the Show:
Website: moneymen.fm
(00:00) - The $50 Billion Crash
(01:15) - What Is Novo Nordisk?
(02:30) - The Catastrophic 2026 Guidance
(03:45) - CEO Says It Gets Worse
(05:00) - The Trump Factor: 85% Price Cut
(06:30) - Eli Lilly Is Winning
(08:00) - Compounding Pharmacies
(09:00) - Leadership Shakeup
(10:00) - The Denmark Problem
(11:00) - What Analysts Are Saying
(12:00) - Bull Case vs Bear Case
(14:30) - What To Watch
(15:45) - Final Thoughts
Palantir Q4 2025 Earnings: Alex Karp 70% Growth AI Empire (Bull & Bear Case)
2026/02/05
Palantir just dropped Q4 2025 earnings that made Wall Street jaw drop. 70% revenue growth. 57% operating margins. A billion dollars in US revenue in a single quarter. And CEO Alex Karp went on the earnings call and said: We are N of one.
Translation: No competition.
Is that arrogance? Or is Palantir actually the only AI company that figured out how to make real money from artificial intelligence?
In this episode, we break down everything: the numbers, the eccentric sword-carrying philosopher CEO, why their ontology is a secret weapon, the controversial ICE contracts, and whether the stock is worth buying at 39x forward revenue.
Today's Show:
The Earnings: $1.41B revenue, 70% YoY growth, 137% US commercial growthWho Is Alex Karp: Philosophy PhD, practices Qi Gong, carries a sword, built a $150B companyWhy Palantir Wins: The ontology - their proprietary data model that makes AI actually do thingsGovernment Contracts: $448M Navy deal, AI drones on battlefields, Pentagon trustThe Dark Side: ICE surveillance, immigration raids, Rise of the Surveillance StateThe Bear Case: 39x revenue, slowing customer growth, 50% downside riskInvestment Takeaways: What Palantir tells us about where AI value actually livesKey Numbers:
Revenue: $1.41B (+70% YoY)US Commercial Growth: 137%Operating Margin: 57%Free Cash Flow: $791MRule of 40 Score: 127 (anything above 40 is excellent)2026 Guidance: $7.2B (beat expectations by $1B)Sources Referenced:
Book: The Philosopher in the Valley by Michael SteinbergerCNBC: Palantir Q4 2025 Earnings ReportCNBC: What Analysts Are Saying About PalantirBusiness Insider: Wall Street Reactions to Palantir EarningsPalantir IR: US Navy $448M PartnershipMilitary.com: Navy Palantir AI Shipbuilding DealPalantir Investor RelationsAlex Karp Quotes:
We are N of one, and these numbers prove itAI will destroy humanity jobsThe US government demand for our product is greater than we can satisfyChapters:
00:00 - Intro: The Only AI Company Actually Making Money01:27 - Palantir Blockbuster Q4 2025 Earnings03:17 - Who Is Alex Karp? The Sword-Carrying Philosopher CEO04:55 - Why Palantir Is Winning: The Ontology Secret08:27 - Government Contracts: Navy, AI Drones and Pentagon09:49 - The Dark Side: ICE, Surveillance and Controversy11:21 - The Bear Case: Why PLTR Could Drop 50%12:34 - What It Means for Investors13:46 - Final Thoughts: Arrogance or Truth?Follow the Show:
Website: moneymen.fm
(00:00) - Introduction
(01:30) - The Earnings Bombshell
(03:00) - Who Is Alex Karp?
(05:00) - Why Is Palantir Winning?
(07:00) - The Boot Camp Model
(09:00) - The Government Backbone
(11:00) - The Bear Case
(13:00) - What This Means For You
Cathie Wood's $1.2M Bitcoin Prediction: Tesla, AI & Deflation in 2026
2026/02/04
Cathie Wood just predicted a "Goldilocks" economy—5% GDP growth with FALLING inflation. Bitcoin to $1.2 million. Tesla to $2,600.
This is the same investor whose fund crashed 75%. The same person who said Zoom would hit $1,500—it's at $74. So why should anyone listen?
Because she also called Tesla before anyone. Called Bitcoin when banks said it was a scam. Built a $60 billion fund from nothing. We go source-by-source through her January 2026 interviews and ARK's Big Ideas report to break down exactly what she's predicting—and whether any of it makes sense.
What to expect in this episode:
The Goldilocks Thesis: Why Cathie thinks we're getting 5% GDP growth AND falling inflation at the same timeBitcoin to $1.2 Million: The math behind ARK's most controversial prediction and why she calls it "digital gold"Tesla's Robotaxi Bet: Why 90% of her $2,600 target comes from self-driving taxis, not carsThe AI Productivity Boom: Her prediction of 4-6% annual productivity growth (3x the historical average)Three Deflationary Forces: Energy, shelter, and China—the factors she says will push prices DOWNThe Track Record Problem: Zoom, Teladoc, Roku—why her predictions have been disastersCathie vs. The Legends: What Buffett, Dalio, and Druckenmiller are saying that contradicts her viewKey Insights:
Technology is deflationary; money printing is inflationary—which force wins in 2026?Being directionally right is NOT enough—valuation and timing matterA 75% drawdown is still a 75% drawdown, no matter how "right" your thesis isWhen Buffett holds $381B in cash, that tells you something about valuationsSources Referenced:
CNBC Squawk Box Interview (Jan 16, 2026)ARK "In The Know" (Jan 9, 2026)ARK Big Ideas 2026 ReportARK Daily Trade DisclosuresFollow the Show:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(02:00) - What Cathie Is Saying Right Now
(07:00) - Her Actual Track Record
(12:00) - Her Investing Philosophy
(17:00) - Cathie vs. The Legends
(21:00) - Should You Listen to Her?
Elon Musk SpaceX-xAI Merger: AI in Space and the Biggest IPO Ever Incoming?
2026/02/03
Elon Musk just dropped a memo that reads like science fiction. SpaceX has acquired xAI in a deal valued at $1.25 trillion—and his stated goal is to put AI data centers in orbit, powered by the sun.
This is not corporate speak. Musk is talking about harnessing millionths of the sun energy, humanity becoming multi-planetary, and building the most ambitious, vertically integrated innovation engine on and off Earth.
We go line-by-line through his announcement—what he is claiming, what he is planning, and whether any of it makes sense. Plus the bear case: is this genius or SolarCity 2.0?
What to expect in this episode:
The Announcement: Not the next chapter—the next book and what Musk means by thatThe AI Energy Crisis: Why Musk says terrestrial data centers cannot scale without imposing hardship on communitiesThe Space Solution: Orbital data centers, 1 million satellites, and unlimited solar power in spaceThe 2-3 Year Timeline: Musk claim that space compute will be cheaper than Earth by 2028The Numbers: $800B SpaceX + $230B xAI = $1.25T combined, targeting the biggest tech IPO everThe Bear Case: Is xAI being bailed out? The SolarCity comparison and what Electrek is sayingThe Tesla Question: $2B investment, conflict of interest lawsuits, and where Musk attention is goingVertical Sovereignty: Why one analyst says if you do not own the energy, chips, and rails you are just a tenantWhat It Means For Investors: How to think about the June 2026 IPOKey Musk Quotes:
This marks not just the next chapter, but the next book in SpaceX and xAI missionGlobal electricity demand for AI simply cannot be met with terrestrial solutionsTo harness even a millionth of our Sun energy would require over a million times more energy than our civilization currently usesSpace is called space for a reasonWithin 2-3 years, the lowest cost way to generate AI compute will be in spaceSources Referenced:
SpaceX Official AnnouncementCNBC: SpaceX acquiring xAI ahead of IPOTechCrunch: SpaceX acquires xAIElectrek: SpaceX bails out xAICNN: Musk two most ambitious companies mergeFollow the Show:
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(00:00) - Introduction: A Memo Like Science Fiction
(02:00) - The Announcement: "The Next Book"
(04:30) - The Problem: AI's Energy Crisis
(07:00) - The Solution: AI in Space
(10:00) - The 2-3 Year Timeline
(12:00) - The Numbers: $1.25 Trillion
(14:30) - The Bear Case & Outro
The Operating System Of A Billionaire: Ray Dalio (Part 2)
2026/01/20
In Part 2, we move from Ray Dalio’s history to his mechanics. After the 1982 "Abyss" nearly destroyed his career, Dalio realized he couldn't trust his own brain to make objective decisions. He needed an operating system that could override his ego and his emotions.
This episode is a deep dive into the Life Principles—the logical framework Dalio built to turn himself from a "dumb shit" into the architect of the world’s most successful hedge fund. We explore why most people fail because they are "stuck in their own heads" and how Dalio uses the laws of nature to engineer a life of constant evolution.
What to expect in this episode:
The Designer vs. The Worker: The life-changing distinction between the version of you that writes the rules and the version of you that executes them.The Machine Model: Why you need to stop seeing your life as a series of events and start seeing it as a mechanical system you can repair.Hyperrealism: Why "wishing" is the enemy of winning, and how to embrace reality even when it’s brutal.The 5-Step Process for Success: Dalio’s clinical loop for getting anything you want—from setting audacious goals to diagnosing your own failures.Pain + Reflection = Progress: How to stop running from the "sting" of loss and start using it as the raw data for your next breakthrough.First-Order vs. Second-Order Consequences: Why the things that feel "good" in the first 5 minutes are usually the traps that keep you broke for 5 years.Firing Yourself: How to objectively identify your own weaknesses and find the "workarounds" that allow you to win without being perfect.Evolution as the Greatest Reward: Why the goal isn't just money—it’s the rapid trial-and-error process that moves you toward the "higher level."Books & Resources Mentioned:
Principles: Life and Work by Ray DalioHow To Build A Company Where The Best Ideas Win (YouTube)The Bridgewater NewsletterHow The Economic Machine Works (YouTube)Follow the Show:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(03:00) - The Principles Philosophy
(11:00) - Radical Transparency
(20:00) - Idea Meritocracy
(30:00) - The Dot Collector
(40:00) - Pain + Reflection = Progress
(50:00) - The All Weather Portfolio
(01:00:00) - Key Takeaways
The "Dumb Shit" Who Built an Empire: Ray Dalio (Part 1)
2026/01/15
This episode is about Ray Dalio—the man who built Bridgewater Associates from a two-bedroom apartment into a $150 billion machine by learning to embrace his own ignorance.
Most people know him as a billionaire "philosopher," but the real story is about a man who was so dead wrong in 1982 that he lost everything and had to borrow $4,000 from his father just to pay his family's bills. This is the story of how that "Abyss" forced him to change his life’s operating system.
What to expect in this episode:
The "Dumb Shit" Mindset: Why Dalio’s greatest edge wasn't his IQ, but his willingness to admit he knew nothing.The 1971 Gold Standard Devaluation: The moment a young Ray realized that the future rarely looks like the past.The 1982 Abyss: A clinical look at the trade that almost ended his career and the public humiliation that followed.The "Economic Doctor" Strategy: How he dissected the debt crises of the 80s to find the patterns everyone else missed.The Holy Grail of Investing: His discovery of "15 to 20 uncorrelated return streams" and why it’s the only way to survive.GPS for the Human Brain: Why he stopped trusting his own gut and started building algorithms to override his ego.Hyper-Realism: Moving from "I wish the market would do this" to "What is the market actually doing?"The Power of Pain: Why Dalio views his greatest failures as the most valuable data points he ever received.Radical Open-Mindedness: The tactical advantage of seeking out the smartest people who disagree with you.The Timeless Truth: You don't win by being "smart"—you win by building a machine that is smarter than you are.Books & Resources Mentioned:
Principles: Life and Work by Ray DalioHow To Build A Company Where The Best Ideas Win (YouTube)The Bridgewater NewsletterHow The Economic Machine Works (YouTube)Follow the Show:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(03:00) - The Early Years
(10:00) - First Trades and First Lessons
(18:00) - Getting Fired from Wall Street
(27:00) - Starting Bridgewater
(36:00) - The 1982 Call That Changed Everything
(45:00) - Building the Machine
(53:00) - Key Takeaways
How to Never Blow Up: Paul Tudor Jones
2025/10/30
This episode is about Paul Tudor Jones — the hedge fund legend who turned defense into an art form.
He’s best known for predicting the 1987 crash and returning over 200% that year — but the real lesson from Jones isn’t how he made money, it’s how he kept it.
What to expect in this episode:
How a boxer’s discipline became a trader’s edgeWhy he says: “Don’t focus on making money. Focus on protecting what you have.”The moral foundation from his Memphis upbringing that shaped his risk mindsetLessons from Eli Tullis — the mentor who taught him composure under fireThe decision to quit a lucrative brokerage job because it “lacked accountability”His 10% monthly drawdown rule — and why it keeps him in the gameThe power of humility: “Every day, I assume every position I have is wrong.”How he turned the 1987 crash into his defining momentWhy generosity and gratitude are essential to staying balanced in marketsThe timeless truth: great trading is not about being right — it’s about not dying.Books & Resources Mentioned:
Market Wizards by Jack D. SchwagerTrading In The Zone by Jack SchwagerFollow the Show:→ Website: moneymen.fm
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(00:00) - Introduction
(03:00) - Who is Paul Tudor Jones?
(08:00) - Black Monday 1987
(15:00) - The Trading Rules
(23:00) - Risk Management Philosophy
(31:00) - The Macro Mindset
(39:00) - Lessons For Your Portfolio
The Greatest Speculator Of All Time: Jesse Livermore
2025/10/13
This episode is about Jesse Livermore. The most legendary trader who ever lived, and the man behind Reminiscences of a Stock Operator.
He made $100 million shorting the 1929 crash (about $1.9 billion today), yet died broke just a decade later.Livermore’s life reads like a novel: ambition, obsession, and lessons written in blood.
What to expect in this episode:
How Livermore discovered technical analysis before it even had a nameThe boy who ran away at 14 to chase numbers on a ticker tapeWhy he said: “The market does not beat them. They beat themselves.”How he made his first fortune shorting the 1907 Panic — and his biggest one in 1929The deadly enemies of every trader: ignorance, greed, fear, and hopeHis rule for sitting tight — and why it’s harder than being rightHow obsession turned from his greatest strength into his undoingWhy the game teaches you the game… and then breaks you“It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always was my sitting.” — Jesse LivermoreBooks Mentioned:
Reminiscences of a Stock Operator by Edwin LefèvreHow to Trade in Stocks by Jesse LivermoreFollow the Show:→ Website: moneymen.fm
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(00:00) - Introduction
(03:00) - The Boy Plunger
(07:00) - Learning to Read the Tape
(12:00) - The 1907 Crash
(17:00) - Making and Losing Fortunes
(22:00) - The 1929 Short
(26:00) - Lessons From a Legend
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As a retired financial advisor, I found this to be superb. Josh delivered a fantastic story about a trading pioneer, and did so with energy and enthus...
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