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Season 2 Episode 10: The Day I Learned He Was Living A Double Life What would you do if you discovered the person you loved wasn't who you thought they were? In this episode, Hannah sits down with bestselling author, speaker, and entrepreneur Ginny Priem to talk about the moment her life changed forever. After a friend revealed shocking information about the man she was building a life with, Ginny uncovered a web of deception that forced her to confront a painful reality: the relationship she thought she had wasn't real. What followed was a journey through betrayal, healing, self-discovery, and ultimately learning how to trust herself again. Together, Hannah and Ginny discuss narcissistic abuse, gaslighting, why strong women end up in unhealthy relationships, and how divorce and heartbreak can become the catalyst for building a life that's more aligned than ever before. They also dive into Ginny's new book, Unsubscribe, and her framework for letting go of relationships, beliefs, habits, and expectations that no longer serve us. If you've ever ignored red flags, questioned your intuition, or stayed too long because you were afraid of what would happen next, this episode is for you. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – The day everything changed 02:00 – Meet Ginny Priem 04:00 – Building what looked like the perfect family 07:00 – The friend who exposed the truth 10:00 – Discovering a double life 13:00 – Gaslighting, DARVO, and narcissistic behavior 16:00 – When your body knows before your mind does 18:00 – Why women ignore red flags 21:00 – Growing up around unhealthy relationship patterns 24:00 – How strong women end up in toxic relationships 27:00 – The choice: bitter or better 30:00 – Losing yourself in a relationship 33:00 – Rebuilding self-trust after betrayal 35:00 – How healing changed Ginny's career path 38:00 – Why divorce and heartbreak can become a new beginning 40:00 – The concept behind Unsubscribe 42:00 – The four-step framework: Manage, Swap, Mute, and Block 44:00 – Why women stay too long 46:00 – Protecting your time, energy, and peace CONNECT WITH HANNAH ⚖️ Hembree Bell Law Firm Helping women navigate divorce, custody, and life's next chapter. HembreeBell.com 💛 Join the Free Women's Circle A supportive community for women rebuilding after divorce and major life transitions. MyConfidentDivorce.com/Circle ✨ My Confident Divorce Courses, coaching, and resources to help you move through divorce with clarity and confidence. MyConfidentDivorce.com Instagram & TikTok: @HannahHembreeBell CONNECT WITH GINNY 📚 Learn More GinnyPriem.com 📱 Instagram @ginnypriem 📖 Books You're My Favorite: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B09X1TF69T/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=957c6e63-eec3-4577-857b-4320ec1e3930 Unsubscribe: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B09X1TF69T/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=957c6e63-eec3-4577-857b-4320ec1e3930 🎙️ Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unsubscribe-with-ginny-priem/id1642612019 Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGyzQcBdoL1GoLaBCkE9Bag If this episode helped you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend who needs to hear it.

Season 2 Episode 9: Money & Mindset: Starting Over After Divorce What if the biggest thing standing between you and financial freedom isn't money at all? What if it's the story you've been telling yourself about money? In this conversation, Hannah sits down with entrepreneur, financial planning expert, Strategic Coach mentor, and single mom turned self-made success story, Colleen Bowler. After navigating a difficult divorce, raising her son on her own, and being handed $50,000 in debt, Colleen rebuilt her life and went on to build one of the top financial planning firms in the country. Together, Hannah and Colleen explore money, worthiness, agency, scarcity, abundance, and why divorce can become the moment a woman finally takes her financial power back. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by money, intimidated by financial planning, or worried about whether you'll be okay on your own, this episode is for you. You are more capable than you think. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Why women need to talk about money 03:00 – Meet Colleen Bowler 06:00 – Colleen’s childhood money story 08:30 – Divorce, debt, and the loss of the dream 11:30 – Becoming a single mom and finding her strength 15:00 – Starting a business during divorce 19:00 – The myth of balance 23:00 – Scarcity, abundance, and inherited money beliefs 27:00 – Why women give away financial power 31:00 – Money, worthiness, and “pick me” energy 35:00 – Getting out of the financial dark 38:00 – What mindset to bring into mediation 42:00 – The first financial step after divorce 45:00 – Agency, habits, and taking ownership 48:00 – Colleen’s message for women in Divorce Land CONNECT WITH HANNAH ⚖️ Hembree Bell Law Firm Helping women navigate divorce, custody, and life's next chapter. HembreeBell.com 💛 Join the Free Women's Circle A supportive community for women rebuilding after divorce and major life transitions. MyConfidentDivorce.com/Circle ✨ My Confident Divorce Courses, coaching, and resources to help you move through divorce with clarity and confidence. MyConfidentDivorce.com 📱 Connect with Hannah Instagram & TikTok: @HannahHembreeBell CONNECT WITH COLLEEN 💰 The Passport Package PassportPackage.com 📱 LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleen-bowler-cfp%C2%AE-09576796/ If this episode helped you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend who needs to hear it.

Season 2 Episode 8: The Dangerous Side of Selflessness For years, Kimber Hardick did everything she thought she was supposed to do. She was a wife.A mother.A helper.A caretaker. The person everyone could count on. From the outside, her life looked successful. Inside, she was disappearing. In this deeply honest conversation, Hannah sits down with author, speaker, and educator Kimber Hardick to talk about the quiet way so many women lose themselves while taking care of everyone else. After more than 30 years of marriage, Kimber found herself confronting a question she had spent decades avoiding: Who am I when I'm not taking care of everyone else? Together, Hannah and Kimber unpack the stories women are taught about self-sacrifice, why so many of us confuse being needed with being valued, and how years of putting ourselves last can leave us feeling invisible in our own lives. They also explore one of the most powerful concepts Hannah has discussed on the podcast: the difference between feeling your emotions and feeding them. Because healing doesn't happen by pretending you're fine. It happens when you stop running from what you're feeling long enough to listen to what it's trying to teach you. Whether you're navigating divorce, rebuilding after heartbreak, struggling with your identity, or simply wondering where the woman you used to be went, this conversation is an invitation to stop waiting for "later" and start coming home to yourself. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Meet Kimber Hardick 03:45 – How women lose themselves inside marriage and motherhood 08:20 – The belief that good women sacrifice themselves 13:15 – Feeling invisible while appearing successful 18:40 – Empty nesting, identity, and rediscovering yourself 24:10 – The wake-up call that changed everything 29:50 – What our children learn from our relationships 34:30 – Boundaries, people-pleasing, and proving your worth 40:15 – Why women stay longer than they want to 44:40 – Feeling vs. feeding your emotions 49:30 – The emotions wheel and emotional awareness 53:20 – Avoidance, capacity, and learning to sit with discomfort 56:30 – Why joy won't come until all emotions are welcome 59:00 – Kimber's advice for women rebuilding their lives CONNECT WITH HANNAH ⚖️ Hembree Bell Law Firm Helping women navigate divorce, custody, and life's next chapter. HembreeBell.com 💛 Join the Free Women's Circle A supportive community for women rebuilding after divorce and major life transitions. MyConfidentDivorce.com/Circle ✨ My Confident Divorce Courses, coaching, and resources to help you move through divorce with clarity and confidence. MyConfidentDivorce.com CONNECT WITH KIMBER HARDICK📱 Instagram@KimberLivingLife 📱 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/19EkV6N1od/?mibextid=wwXIfr🌐 WebsiteKimberHardick.comHer Skool Group https://www.skool.com/an-invitation-to-shine-9904/about The Emotions Wheel https://kimberhardick.netlify.app/tools/emotion-wheelThe Workbookhttps://a.co/d/0gy8JkXK📖 BookAn Invitation to ShineIf this episode helped you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend who needs to hear it.

Season 2 Episode 7: The Secret To Making A Blended Family Work Everyone wants the blended family to feel like a family immediately. But that's not how real life works. In this deeply personal episode, Hannah sits down with her husband, Drew Bell, to talk honestly about what happened after the engagement, the wedding, and the excitement wore off. How do you actually blend a family after divorce? What happens when one partner has children and the other doesn't? How do you build trust with kids who have already experienced so much change? And how do you create a family without forcing it? Together, Hannah and Drew share the lessons they learned while building a family of seven, including what worked, what didn't, and why patience may be the most underrated parenting tool in a blended family. If you're dating after divorce, remarried, engaged, or trying to navigate life in a blended family, this episode will remind you that healthy families aren't built overnight. They are built one relationship at a time. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Why blended families take time 02:20 – How Hannah and Drew's story began 06:00 – Moving in together and blending five lives 11:00 – Why easing into a blended family helped 15:00 – When a house starts feeling like a family 20:00 – The role of a stepparent in a child's life 25:00 – Why Hannah never expected instant parenthood 34:00 – Letting relationships develop naturally 41:00 – Building trust with children after divorce 49:00 – The challenge of being a stepparent 57:00 – Why patience matters more than control 01:05:00 – Creating traditions as a family 01:12:00 – Family dinners, gratitude, and connection 01:18:00 – Navigating custody and transitions 01:25:00 – Advice for dating and remarriage after divorce 01:34:00 – What they would do differently 01:45:00 – Stepparents, boundaries, and humility 02:00:00 – Final lessons on building a healthy blended family CONNECT WITH HANNAH ⚖️ Hembree Bell Law FirmHelping women navigate divorce, custody, and life's next chapter.HembreeBell.com 💛 Join the Free Women's CircleA supportive community for women rebuilding after divorce and major life transitions.MyConfidentDivorce.com/Circle ✨ My Confident DivorceCourses, coaching, and resources to help you move through divorce with clarity and confidence.MyConfidentDivorce.com 📱 Connect with HannahInstagram & TikTok: @HannahHembreeBell If this episode helped you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend who needs to hear it.

Season 2 Episode 6 : How to Spot a Narcissist What if the problem wasn’t that you were too sensitive… …but that you were being taught to doubt your own reality? In this episode of Not Saving It For Later, Hannah sits down with retired clinical psychologist Dr. Kerry McAvoy to unpack one of the most misunderstood and overused words in modern relationships: narcissist. Because not every difficult partner is a narcissist. And not every narcissist looks the way you think. This conversation moves beyond social media buzzwords and into the real psychology behind narcissistic behavior, manipulation, power, and emotional control. Dr. Kerry brings both clinical expertise and personal experience to this conversation, helping listeners understand not only what narcissism is — but why smart, capable, loving women so often find themselves trapped inside these relationships. If you have ever felt confused… blamed… emotionally exhausted… or like you were slowly disappearing inside your relationship… this conversation may help you make sense of what you’ve been living. This Conversation Covers: • What narcissism actually means according to the DSM • Why narcissism is often confused with selfishness or being a jerk • The core traits narcissists share • Manipulation, entitlement, and lack of empathy • Why narcissists often see relationships as competition and control • How love bombing and “compliance testing” work • Why smart women still fall into these dynamics • The role of self-betrayal and emotional conditioning • Why narcissists struggle to change • What emotional detachment can look like inside marriage • How manipulation escalates when you begin pulling your power back • Why staying “for the kids” may not protect them the way you hope • Practical ways to begin recognizing patterns and protecting yourself One truth from this episode that hit hard: "The people who benefited from you giving away your power will freak out when you call it back." If this conversation feels painfully familiar, please hear this: You are not crazy. You are not weak. And you are not doomed to stay stuck in dynamics that require you to abandon yourself to survive. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Introduction + Meet Dr. Kerry McAvoy 02:15 – What Narcissism Actually Means 06:30 – Narcissist vs. “Just an A*****e” 11:40 – DSM Criteria + Core Traits Explained 18:15 – Jealousy, Entitlement & Lack of Empathy 24:20 – Are Narcissists Born or Made? 31:10 – Family Patterns + Genetic Components 38:00 – Why Narcissists Feel Superior Yet Empty 45:15 – Power, Control & Competition in Relationships 52:30 – Why Women End Up With Narcissists 58:10 – Love Bombing + The Mask They Wear 1:04:20 – How Compliance Testing Works 1:12:00 – Self-Betrayal, Attachment & People Pleasing 1:19:45 – Pulling Your Power Back 1:27:30 – Why Leaving Is So Hard 1:35:10 – Staying for the Kids + The Cost of Survival Mode 1:43:40 – Emotional Healing + Building Back Better 1:51:15 – Divorce, Labels & Why Caution Matters 1:59:20 – Not Saving It For Later CONNECT WITH DR. KERRY MCAVOY: Website: https://www.kerrymcavoyphd.com/ Instagram: @kerrymcavoyphd Facebook: Dr. Kerry McAvoy CONNECT WITH HANNAH + HEMBREE BELL: Website: www.hembreebell.com Website: HannahHembreebell.com Instagram: @hannahhembreebell Instagram: @hembreebelllaw Facebook: Hannah Hembree Bell TikTok: @hannahhembreebell

Season 2 Episode 5: Are Your Kids Being Used as Weapons in Your Divorce? High Conflict Divorce Explained What happens when divorce stops being about resolution… and starts becoming about control? In this  episode of Not Saving It For Later, Hannah sits down with psychologist Dr. Mary Alvarez to unpack the painful reality of high conflict divorce and custody cases — and the devastating impact conflict can have on children. If communication feels impossible… if you feel like you’re constantly walking on eggshells… if co-parenting feels more like surviving than parenting… this conversation is for you. Dr. Alvarez brings decades of experience working inside high conflict family systems and explains what many parents quietly live through but struggle to put words around. This conversation covers: • What actually qualifies as high conflict divorce • Why conflict is often about power and control—not parenting • Co-parenting vs. parallel parenting • How children become emotional weapons in custody battles • Why tight custody orders matter • How toxic conflict impacts children’s brains and development • The emotional toll on the healthier parent • Self-care, regulation, and surviving without losing yourself • Whether children eventually “figure it out” One truth from this episode that hit hard: "It’s not the divorce that harms children. It’s the ongoing conflict." If you are navigating divorce or custody conflict, we hope this conversation helps you feel less alone — and more equipped. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Introduction + Why This Conversation Matters 02:15 – Meet Dr. Mary Alvarez + Understanding Her Role 07:40 – What High Conflict Divorce Actually Means 14:10 – Why Progress Can Feel Unsafe During Litigation 20:05 – Co-Parenting vs Parallel Parenting 27:35 – Why Tight Custody Orders Matter 34:50 – How High Conflict Personalities Operate 41:15 – When Children Become Weapons 48:20 – Why Moms Often Feel Pressure to Be “Perfect” 54:10 – Trauma, Emotional Regulation & Self-Care 1:01:30 – Mental Health, Therapy & Divorce Stigma 1:08:45 – Learning Emotional Skills During Divorce 1:14:20 – Choosing Which Hills to Die On 1:20:10 – Do Kids Eventually Figure It Out? 1:27:15 – Healing, Hope & Leaving the Door Open CONNECT WITH DR. MARY ALVAREZ: Website: https://drmaryalvarez.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-alvarez-ph-d-4028836b/ CONNECT WITH HANNAH + HEMBREE BELL: Website: www.hembreebell.com Website: HannahHembreebell.com Instagram: @hannahhembreebell Instagram: @hembreebelllaw Facebook: Hannah Hembree Bell TikTok: @hannahhembreebell

Season 2 Episode 4: What If the Good Stuff Scares You Too?You expected divorce to feel hard. What you didn't expect is that the good stuff on the other side might feel scarier.Tah Whitty is back for season two — nurse, healer, men's work guide, and one of Hannah's most trusted people. In their first season conversation he pulled a thread that wouldn't let her go: the part of her, and most women coming through divorce, that learned to keep the bad stuff out by also keeping the good stuff out. The same armor that protected you in the worst of it can quietly block the joy, the new love, the easier flow you've been working so hard to receive.This conversation is about full spectrum humanity — feeling all of it on purpose. They get into why "good" and "bad" are the wrong words, the five-step framework Tah teaches his clients, and why letting it just be is a level up from letting it be good.Tender, layered, and full of permission. Save this one for the days when you can't tell if you're protecting yourself or hiding from your life.Timestamps:- 01:35 — Welcome back, Tah- 03:20 — The thread from season one Hannah couldn't drop- 04:30 — Hannah's mean inner critic and the half-step removed life- 08:00 — Armor that keeps the bad out also keeps the good out- 09:30 — Logan's question: what do you do when you finally get what you wanted- 10:47 — Familiarity is what we protect, even when it hurts- 13:05 — The warrior still standing at the gate after the war is over- 16:12 — Tah's five steps: awareness, intention, strategy, action, accountability- 18:00 — Why "good" and "bad" are the wrong words. Try "different."- 22:25 — The doomsday scenario coming online- 22:44 — Tonga, humpback whales, and getting out of narrative- 23:44 — The four questions that craft your intention- 24:57 — Strategy, action, and the accountability piece people skip- 33:00 — Joy as the mother of all emotions. Capacity built both ways.- 34:30 — Full spectrum humanity, defined- 38:00 — Why women stay for years while every signal is on fire- 41:30 — Find your people: the boutique pack that can hold your honesty- 47:00 — Be messy. The right people love you in your mess.- 53:00 — It's all good. There is no opposite.- 56:00 — Stretching the rubber band: tiny doses of staying in the feeling- 58:50 — Don't rob your future self of the good by avoiding the hard- 59:00 — Trauma responses and why good things trigger the guardian- 1:02:00 — The color question on Tah's intake form- 1:03:25 — Hannah's new mantra: instead of let it be good, just let it be- 1:05:00 — Tah on Not Saving It For Later: save the doomsday scenario for later, not the joy- 1:07:40 — What's been shaking Tah lately- 1:09:30 — The empathetic witness: trauma in the absence of one- 1:11:30 — People throw rocks at things that shine- 1:13:00 — Tah's one piece of advice: 100 trillion cells, 4,000 ancestors, the magic in the mirrorMentioned in this episode:- Kimber Hardick's new book on joy- "Be Your Future Self Now" — Benjamin Hardy- Napoleon Hill — "The Six Ghosts of Fear"Connect With Tah:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tahfree/?hl=en The YOUniverse is where Tah supports people in building emotional fluency and the capacity to navigate what they’re feeling, especially in moments of major life transition like divorce. Click here to join - https://CallTah.com/YOUniverse. Thinking about divorce in Texas? You don't have to figure it out alone.Hembree Bell Law is a Texas family-law-only firm built for high-functioning women who want to end their marriage well — with clarity, integrity, and a real plan for what comes next. Schedule a confidential consultation at (http://HembreeBell.com)Considering divorce but not in Texas or not ready to file? Start here.My Confident Divorce is Hannah's free community for women considering divorce. Access free coaching, private groups, preparation documents and so much more! Head over to (http://MyConfidentDivorce.com)

Season 2 Episode 3: The Invisible Prison Most Married Women Don't See.If you've ever felt vaguely exhausted in your marriage but couldn't quite name why — walking on eggshells, repeating the same arguments, somehow still the one carrying it all — this conversation is going to put words on it.Abby Eckel is one of Hannah's favorite follows online. She talks about domestic labor, the mental load, and the quiet inequities baked into most marriages — and she does it without sugar-coating any of it. She and Hannah dig into why "just leave" is some of the worst advice women get, what it actually looks like to center yourself in small daily ways, and why so many smart, capable women stay in the invisible prison even when the key is in their own pocket.Honest, funny, and full of permission slips. If you needed someone to tell you it's okay to make a dinner you like, take the bath during the football game, and stop being the family cruise ship director — start here.Timestamps:- 01:17 — Meet Abby Eckel: domestic labor and the invisible load- 03:27 — Why Fair Play is a band-aid, not the answer- 04:20 — The root problem: nobody thinks women's labor is valuable- 05:22 — The invisible timeline drilled into girls from birth- 07:18 — Church-boy "submissive" theology and the women it breaks- 10:56 — The invisible prison (and the key in your pocket)- 11:24 — The shift that changes everything: believing you deserve more- 14:03 — You are worthy because you exist. Full stop.- 15:21 — First-generation freedom: credit cards, bank accounts, ancestral trauma- 16:44 — Centering yourself doesn't mean a hobby and a babysitter- 19:01 — Thermostats, default settings, and how men center themselves automatically- 21:40 — Hannah's mantra: that is not my preference- 26:43 — The hot bath during the football game- 27:58 — I am not a cruise ship director- 31:47 — Hold the line. Men respect a boundary.- 34:10 — Permission to take up space and find fulfillment outside the kids- 36:46 — Why "just leave" is unkind, unhelpful, and ignores the system- 39:30 — The recon mission: talking to a divorce lawyer is fact-finding, not the point of no return- 43:21 — A decision has been made: deciding before you act- 49:39 — Surviving the marriage vs. healing from it- 50:21 — Markers that the episode is talking to YOU- 52:23 — Time, place, and manner restrictions on talking to your spouse- 53:16 — Beige malaise: when there's nothing to look forward to anymore- 54:04 — What's been shaking Abby lately- 56:57 — Hannah on 2026: joy, not on layaway- 58:10 — Abby's one piece of advice: think and act like your husbandMentioned in this episode:- "Fair Play" — Eve Rodsky- "Wild Geese" — Mary Oliver- "Be Your Future Self Now" — Benjamin Hardy- Simon Sinek (find your why)Connect With Abby:Instagram: @AbbyEckelFacebook: @TheAbbyEckelWebsite: AbbyEckel.comThinking about divorce in Texas? You don't have to figure it out alone.Hembree Bell Law is a Texas family-law-only firm built for high-functioning women who want to end their marriage well — with clarity, integrity, and a real plan for what comes next. Schedule a confidential consultation at (http://HembreeBell.com)Considering divorce but not in Texas or not ready to file? Start here.My Confident Divorce is Hannah's free community for women considering divorce. Access free coaching, private groups, preparation documents and so much more! Head over to (http://MyConfidentDivorce.com)

Season 2 Episode 2: People Pleasing Is the Highest Form of Lying.If "I'll just do it" is your default — at home, with the kids, at work, in your marriage — this is the conversation that's going to wreck you in the best way.Marla Mattenson is Hannah's longtime coach, friend, and one of the most quietly brilliant people she's ever worked with. Former math teacher, doula, body worker, executive coach, and a meditator with 23 years and 23 ten-day silent retreats under her belt. In this episode, Hannah brings you the Marla Greatest Hits — the small, simple shifts that quietly rewire how you communicate, how you set boundaries, and how you stop bleeding yourself dry trying to keep everyone else comfortable.We get into consent in everyday relationships, the difference between a clean yes and a "mushy yes," why people pleasing is technically lying, and the nervous system regulation tools (red, yellow, green) you can actually use the next time you feel agitated, stuck, or about to snap.This one is layered, tender, and weirdly practical. Stay till the end — Marla's takeaway is the line you're going to want on your fridge.Timestamps:- 01:22 — Meet Marla Mattenson: coach, math teacher, doula, body worker- 04:34 — The gift of consent: stop vomiting your truth on people- 05:41 — Clean yes vs. mushy yes (and why we don't proceed through mushy)- 07:05 — Considering the landing: how is what I'm about to say going to land- 10:24 — Where your consent is being trampled and you didn't know it- 12:01 — Lack of consent is the beginning of resentment building- 12:50 — How to practice consent with your kids (and your teen step-kid)- 14:41 — Consent as a micro tool that softens the whole road ahead- 21:22 — Asking is now a good time at work, on calls, with your husband- 22:30 — Suppressed words show up in your jaw, neck, and headaches- 23:00 — The audio note hack: get it out, send it later, build intimacy anyway- 24:24 — How consent eliminates people pleasing- 25:51 — Marla's most famous line: people pleasing is the highest form of lying- 29:20 — Lying as a spectrum: white lies all the way to malicious deception- 30:32 — Nobody wants to think of themselves as a liar — but here's how to catch yourself- 37:20 — Suppressed yeses become rage: how marriages rupture from the inside- 39:30 — Why divorce can look like a personality break (it's not — it's the volcano)- 42:14 — Nervous system 101: red, yellow, green and fight, flight, freeze, fawn- 45:04 — Feeling safe in red is intimacy. Feeling unsafe in red is collapse.- 52:58 — Marla on Vipashana: 23 years, 23 silent retreats, observing without reacting- 54:59 — Owning your sensations, thoughts, emotions, and behaviors as yours- 1:00:00 — Marla's free nervous system training (linked below)- 1:05:05 — Get into nature, feet in the dirt, cold water on the back of the neck- 1:07:15 — Marla's one thing for the women of divorce land: you're doing it perfectly- 1:09:50 — Even your messy choices and mistakes are working for goodMentioned in this episode:- "Vipashana" silent meditation tradition- The Gottmans (relationship research)Connect With Marla:Free training: ethicalsalesinstitute.com Follow her on Instagram and LinkedInhttps://www.instagram.com/marla.mattenson/linkedin.com/in/marla-mattenson-08613195Thinking about divorce in Texas? You don't have to figure it out alone.Hembree Bell Law is a Texas family-law-only firm built for high-functioning women who want to end their marriage well — with clarity, integrity, and a real plan for what comes next. Schedule a confidential consultation at (http://HembreeBell.com)Considering divorce but not in Texas or not ready to file? Start here.My Confident Divorce is Hannah's free community for women considering divorce. Access free coaching, private groups, preparation documents and so much more! Head over to (http://MyConfidentDivorce.com)

Season 2 Episode 1: I Had to Lose Two Marriages To Learn How To Love Myself If you've ever walked out of one relationship straight into the next and wondered why it started to feel familiar — this conversation is for you. Amy Edwards is the host of "Anything But Mid" and "The Amy Edwards Show", an author, and a musician who looks nothing like the version of "in her 50s" most of us were sold. She's also been divorced twice. In this episode, she's open about all of it — including the parts most women won't say out loud — and we get into pick-me energy, why cheating is rarely about the other person, the mirror practice that changed everything, and how worthiness, respect, and self-trust actually get built. This one is raw, funny, and full of the kind of honesty that makes you sit up a little straighter. If you're somewhere in the middle of a divorce — or somewhere in the middle of trying to figure out who you are again — start here. Timestamps: 00:58 — Meet Amy Edwards: podcaster, author, musician 03:20 — Two divorces, three marriages, and "anything but mid" 04:30 — Why we repeat the same patterns in the next relationship 06:40 — "I'm the common denominator" 08:30 — The dark hole: hope, depression, and getting through it day by day 10:00 — Where was I giving away my power?- 12:30 — Why cheating wasn't about the husbands — it was about validation- 13:15 — *Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It* (Kamal Ravikant) and the mirror practice 15:40 — Pick-me energy: how women get conditioned into it- 16:20 — The self-love test: can you sit alone in the quiet? 18:00— Do your preferences matter? Centering yourself in your own life. 19:40 — Self-love → self-worth → self-respect → self-trust 21:15 — "You are worthy because you exist. Full stop."- 22:00 — Worthy of joy, peace, a calm home, and the life you actually want 23:50 — The four-layer stack: love, worth, respect, trust 25:00 — Building self-trust through small promises kept 28:00 — Untangling it all: the core is self-love 30:30 — How women get kept obedient — and what changes when you stop 31:15 — Learning to date again: "It's not that there are no good men out there" 34:30 — Speaking your truth in new relationships 40:30 — The real mirror work: can you laugh with yourself like a best friend? 48:55 — Amy's #1 piece of advice for women in divorce land- 51:00 — Take yourself on dates. Treat yourself like the love of your life. 54:30 — What "Not Saving It For Later" means to Amy 56:30 — Teaser: the dating episode coming next Mentioned in this episode: "Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It" — Kamal Ravikant - "Anything But Mid" podcast — Amy Edwards - "The Amy Edwards Show" — Amy Edwards Connect With Amy: Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/5SdojmuUpXfksyQD8gbXJm?si=9e3d4fcb157d447e&nd=1&dlsi=f008243d30034a4f Instagram: @RealAnyEdwards Thinking about divorce in Texas? You don't have to figure it out alone.Hembree Bell Law is a Texas family-law-only firm built for high-functioning women who want to end their marriage well — with clarity, integrity, and a real plan for what comes next. Schedule a confidential consultation at HembreeBell.com Considering divorce but not in Texas or not ready to file? Start here.My Confident Divorce is Hannah's free community for women considering divorce. Access free coaching, private groups, preparation documents and so much more! Head over to MyConfidentDivorce.com

Ep. 12 Love After Divorce: Blending Families, Choosing Again, and Not Saving Life for Later (Featuring Drew Bell) In this deeply personal episode, Hannah Hembree Bell sits down with her husband, Drew Bell, for an honest conversation about love after divorce, building a relationship inside a ready-made family, and what it really means to choose each other—again and again—after everything has fallen apart once. This isn’t a fairy-tale “second marriage” story. It’s a real one. Hannah and Drew talk candidly about meeting shortly after Hannah’s divorce, navigating the realities of dating as a mom, stepping into a family that already exists, and the quiet decisions that make a relationship steady instead of dramatic. If you’ve ever wondered: Is it too soon to love again? Can a relationship be calm and still be real? What does it look like when someone chooses your whole life—not just you? This episode is for you. Together, Hannah and Drew unpack what it takes to build something grounded after chaos—and why waiting to live, love, or feel joy “later” is a cost most women don’t realize they’re paying. Episode Timeline 00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later 01:00 – Introducing Drew & why this conversation matters 04:00 – Meeting shortly after divorce: timing, fear, and honesty 08:30 – Dating as a mom & stepping into an existing family system 13:00 – What blending families actually requires (and what it doesn’t) 18:00 – Calm vs. chaos: redefining what “chemistry” means 22:30 – Choosing steadiness over emotional whiplash 27:00 – Respect, patience, and learning your role inside a family 32:00 – What Drew learned about partnership, parenting, and support 38:00 – Love without urgency, pressure, or performance 44:00 – “Not saving joy, peace, or life for later” About Drew Bell Drew Bell is a trial attorney who spends his professional life handling high-stakes litigation—and his personal life building a steady, intentional partnership and family with Hannah. Mentioned in This Episode The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce course → myconfidentdivorce.com/circle Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas) → hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and life beyond it—where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real. This show is for education and inspiration only — not legal or mental health advice.If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Ep 11. What No One Tells You Before Filing For Divorce (featuring Christopher Anderson) In this grounded conversation, Hannah sits down with one of her closest advisors and longtime family law attorney, Christopher Anderson, a man who has spent decades inside the systems most people only encounter on the worst days of their lives. Christopher has prosecuted domestic violence and sex crimes in the Bronx, represented families in high-conflict divorce, built and run law firms across the country, and lived the long-term consequences of a “bad split” as a child of divorce himself. He’s seen what actually protects children, and what quietly destroys them. Together, Hannah and Christopher talk about why divorce doesn’t have to be chaos, why the system so often rewards conflict, and why leadership — in families, firms, and life — requires more honesty, restraint, and intention than most people are willing to practice. If you’re in the middle of divorce…If you’re exhausted by the process…If you feel like you’re carrying the emotional and strategic weight for everyone else… This episode will help you slow down, zoom out, and remember that clarity is kindness. This is not about winning.It’s about building something that lasts. 00:00 – Not Saving It for Later: Why We’re Done Waiting02:30 – Who Christopher Anderson Really Is05:00 – From the Bronx DA’s Office to Family Law08:30 – Prosecuting Domestic Violence & Crimes Against Children12:00 – Why Family Law Became Personal15:30 – Being a Child of Divorce: When “Getting Out” Costs Everything19:00 – Walking Away From Money to Protect Kids23:00 – “There Has to Be a Better Way”27:00 – Why Divorce Turns Chaotic So Fast31:00 – The Hidden Cost of Conflict on Children35:00 – Leadership, Power & Responsibility39:00 – What the Legal System Can’t Fix43:00 – Why Chaos — Not Divorce — Harms Kids47:00 – Testing Everything on Yourself51:00 – Building Firms (and Families) With Intention55:00 – What Actually Protects People Long-Term58:00 – Final Truth: Slow Is Strong Connect With Christopher Anderson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawfirmbusiness/ Christopher Anderson — Family Law Attorney & AdvisorBased in Coloradohttps://www.newleaf.family/ Mentioned In This Episode The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce→ https://myconfidentdivorce.com/circle OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication→ https://ourfamilywizard.com/HHB Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ https://hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok→ @hannahhembreebell This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.If you’re in Texas and need legal guidance, consult a licensed attorney.If you are in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Ep.10 When It’s Not Abuse… But It’s Still Not Right (Featuring Kole Whitty) What if the most dangerous place to stay is the one that looks “fine”? In this episode of Not Saving It for Later, Hannah sits down with Kole Whitty for a conversation about divorce, identity, desire, and the moment a woman realizes she can’t keep betraying herself to keep the peace. This episode is for the woman who isn’t in crisis — but isn’t free either. 00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later03:10 – When Nothing Is Technically Wrong… But Everything Feels Off 07:45 – The Pressure to Just Be Grateful 12:30 – Staying Loyal to a Life That’s Shrinking You 17:20 – When Your Body Starts Keeping the Score 22:40 – The Fear of Wanting More 28:05 – Leaving Without a Villain 33:50 – The Myth of “Blowing Up Your Life” 39:15 – Doing the Work Instead of Jumping to the Next Thing 45:10 – Money, Revenge, and the Cost of Being Right 50:30 – Desire vs. Deserve 55:40 – If You’re Standing at the Edge Right Now 59:00 – Final Reflections: Choosing Yourself Gently The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course👉 https://myconfidentdivorce.com/circle OurFamilyWizard — The co-parenting communication tool Hannah personally uses and recommends👉 https://www.ourfamilywizard.com/HHB Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok👉 @hannahhembreebell Texas family law support - 👉 https://hembreebell.com Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real. This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

Ep. 9 Do You Want Justice… or Do You Want Peace? (Featuring Sam Colletti) Hannah sits down with Austin family law attorney and mediator Sam Colletti, a trusted colleague and longtime friend, for a ground-level conversation about what mediation actually is, what it isn’t, and why so many people misunderstand their options during divorce. This episode pulls back the curtain on the divorce process — especially the emotional traps that keep people stuck chasing “justice,” burning money, and handing control of their future to a system that was never designed to heal them. If you’ve ever said “I don’t want to go to court — I just want mediation,” this conversation is for you. Hannah and Sam break down: why mediation is not the opposite of court (it’s a waypoint), how chasing retribution often costs more than it gives, where real control actually lives in divorce, and how staying curious instead of judgmental can change the outcome of your case — and your life after it. This is a practical, honest, and human episode about ending a marriage well, protecting your future self, and choosing peace without pretending the pain doesn’t exist. 00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later 01:00 – Hannah and Sam’s real-life friendship & why this conversation matters 04:30 – What mediation actually is (and why “mediation vs. court” is the wrong question) 08:00 – Why mediation is a waypoint — not a magic alternative 11:45 – The risks of going to court: bells you can’t un-ring 14:00 – Why attorney choice shapes your entire divorce experience 17:00 – The myth of justice in divorce (and what people are really chasing) 21:00 – “Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?” 24:00 – Control: where you have it in mediation — and where you lose it in court 28:00 – Why high-conflict cases feel existential (and why that matters) 32:00 – Curiosity vs. judgment: the question that changes mediation outcomes 36:00 – Why compromise isn’t weakness — it’s strategy 39:00 – When trial is the right answer (and when it isn’t) 44:00 – Pre-lawsuit mediation & Sam’s “Mediation for Empowered Uncoupling” model 50:00 – Letting go of revenge without abandoning your needs 54:00 – “Peace is an inside job” — what Hannah learned the hard way 57:00 – Not saving joy, healing, or life for later Mediation is not “avoiding court” — it’s a strategic step within the legal process Court offers catharsis, not control — and rarely delivers the justice people expect Most people aren’t fighting for money; they’re fighting for recognition and fairness You cannot outsource peace to a judge, mediator, or legal system Staying curious instead of judgmental keeps you aligned with your long-term future The goal isn’t to win divorce — it’s to end it without burning your next chapter Sam Colletti is a Texas family law attorney and mediator focused on helping families resolve divorce with clarity, dignity, and intention. Connect With Sam Here: https://nmsb-law.com/ Sam's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sam_d_colletti/?__d=1 Mentioned In This EpisodeThe Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circleHembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ hembreebell.comFollow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real. This show is for education and inspiration only — not legal or mental health advice. If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

(featuring Steven Bradley, “The Tech Cowboy”) Hannah sits down with former FBI investigator and certified “Tech Cowboy” Steven Bradley — a digital safety expert who has seen every trick, trap, and tech-enabled manipulation used in divorces and abusive relationships. If you’re anywhere near divorce — contemplating it, in the thick of separation, or rebuilding after — this episode is a wake-up call you cannot skip. Steven exposes the invisible ways technology gets weaponized:tracking, cloning phones, spying through Alexa, manipulating text messages, hijacking your Wi-Fi, pulling your location from your AirPods, and even rewriting the narrative inside co-parenting communication. If you’ve ever had the gut feeling he knows too much… or things just feel off… you’re not crazy. And you’re not helpless. This episode teaches you the digital safety steps every woman should take — with or without conflict — so you can reclaim your privacy, your safety, and your peace. 00:00 – Why Technology Is the New Battlefield in Divorce 02:00 – Steven’s Background in FBI Cyber & Domestic Crimes 03:00 – How Your Passwords, Security Questions & Shared Accounts Put You at Risk 05:40 – What’s at Stake If You Ignore Digital Safety 08:50 – Lock It Down: The First Safety Steps Every Woman Should Take 12:10 – The One Thing Almost Everyone Forgets to Change 14:35 – How to Time Your Security Changes Without Starting a War 17:52 – When You’re in a High-Conflict Situation: Advanced Protection 20:25 – Spyware, Stalkerware & Phone Cloning 23:00 – The First 3–4 Months After Separation: The Most Dangerous Window 29:19 – Car Trackers, AirPods, and “Find My” Manipulation 31:59 – Validation: You’re Not Crazy 34:37 – What Lawyers Don’t Understand (Yet) About Tech Abuse 38:09 – Preventative Tech Boundaries for Healthy Marriages & New Starts 42:54 – The Co-Parenting Tool That Changes Everything: OurFamilyWizard 49:48 – Real Talk: You Don’t Have to Be Techy to Stay Safe 54:32 – Not Saving It for Later: What Steven Learned the Hard Way 56:00 – The Thought That’s Been Circling Steven’s Mind 57:02 – What’s Shaking Him Lately 58:07 – His One Message for Women in Divorceland Connect With Steven: LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bradley-10136022/ OurFamilyWizard → ourfamilywizard.com/HHB(The co-parenting tool used by courts nationwide — and the one Hannah personally swears by.) Mentioned In This Episode The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.If you’re in Texas and need legal support, consult a licensed attorney.If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).