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Works But Makes Noises

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This podcast has
7 episodes
Language
English
Date created
2025/11/15
Latest episode
2026/01/26
Average duration
64 min.
Release period
24 days

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Two designers on opposite coasts talk their way through creativity, culture, and tech. It’s a podcast about everything except design, that somehow always ends up being about design.

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Special Guest Elizabeth Goodspeed on Design Education, Experimental Branding, Weird References, and Archiving Everything
2026/01/26
How to pay off sleep debt, ancient internships, should designers c*de? design engineers, teaching at RISD and Parsons, experimental branding briefs and constraint-led projects, what design school doesn’t teach, archives versus mood boards, Arena as a second brain, collecting and scanning physical references, folk packaging and diner placemats, obscure illustrators and forgotten ephemera, taste as something you build over time, trend reports and in–out lists, writing as a way of thinking, print, tactility, control, and staying creatively engaged without chasing trends. Elizabeth Goodspeed is an independent designer, art director, and writer specializing in branding, packaging, and book and editorial design. She’s also the US editor-at-large for It’s Nice That and publishes Casual Archivist, a design history focused newsletter. https://elizabethgoodspeed.com/ David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftman is a Los Angeles-based graphic designer. Currently the Design Director at Grilli Type, he has nearly two decades of experience across studios, in-house roles, and his own practice. Also: big surfer. Artwork by Pablo Delcan Music by Mondo Boys Artwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Type www.worksbutmakesnoises.com
The Rise of Home-Cooked Software, Authenticity & Imperfection, and When to Start a Design Studio
2026/01/10
The 52" monitor, home-cooked software, claude code, vibe coding, personal tools, craft, authenticity and imperfection, authorship and taste, designing without scale, having an independent design practice, freelancing vs studios, building a career on your own terms. Tesla Optimus Fail https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1pfzxt0/tesla_optimus/ Dell's Big Boy https://www.engadget.com/computing/dell-unveils-a-massive-52-inch-6k-ultrawide-curved-monitor-at-ces-2026-140024842.html People Building with Claude Code https://x.com/claudeai/status/2009666254815269313?s=20 Ryo Lu's OS  https://os.ryo.lu/ Gabriel Valdivia's Big Calendar https://x.com/gabrielvaldivia/status/2008259086614409438?s=20 David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftman is a Los Angeles-based graphic designer. Currently the Design Director at Grilli Type, he has nearly two decades of experience across studios, in-house roles, and his own practice. Also: big surfer. Artwork by Pablo Delcan Music by Mondo Boys Artwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Type www.worksbutmakesnoises.com
Robot Lamps, Apple’s New Design Era, Utah 2034, Iconic Olympic Brands
2025/12/09
Snowstorms in the Catskills, Jacob’s month on the North Shore, selling the Audi and becoming a full-time Subaru guy, mechanics doing power slides in your car, talking lamps and unhinged home robots, Terminator bots and the sci-fi week online, Apple entering a new design era, Google’s Nano-Banana and AI faking sketchbooks, Bloom and the rise of brand-asset generators, the new CNBC logo mess, Utah 2034 and the puzzle of future-proof Olympic branding, the icons of Olympic identity from Mexico 68 to Munich 72 and Montreal 76, and why mockups are still the secret weapon in design. 🖼️ Visual Show Notes https://worksbutmakesnoises.com/episodes/5 David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftman is a Los Angeles-based graphic designer. Currently the Design Director at Grilli Type, he has nearly two decades of experience across studios, in-house roles, and his own practice. Also: big surfer. Artwork by Pablo Delcan Music by Mondo Boys Artwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Type www.worksbutmakesnoises.com
Zohran’s Campaign Design, Geriatric Millennials, and Ten Foot Skeletons
2025/11/10
Ten foot skeletons, Gen Z nonchalance vs. Millennial effortfulness,  Zohran's campaign design, Al Gore was the worst client. Links mentioned in the show Zohran Mamdani’s Campaign Logo Looked Nothing Like a Campaign Logo https://www.curbed.com/article/zohran-mamdani-campaign-logo-graphic-design.html Fully automated 'private chef' https://x.com/miyuselene/status/1982517846124192011?s=20 NEO home robot https://www.1x.tech/neo David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftman is a Los Angeles-based graphic designer. Currently the Design Director at Grilli Type, he has nearly two decades of experience across studios, in-house roles, and his own practice. Also: big surfer. Artwork by Pablo Delcan Music by Mondo Boys Artwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Type www.worksbutmakesnoises.com
Personal uniforms, electric bikes, and 90's ad agencies.
2025/10/17
Surfing in Mexico, Gap is back, having a personal ‘uniform’, Electric Bikes, NYC Subway design, AI slop (oh no), edible rocks, 90’s ad agency offices, naming things. David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftman is a Los Angeles-based graphic designer. Currently the Design Director at Grilli Type, he has nearly two decades of experience across studios, in-house roles, and his own practice. Also: big surfer. Artwork by Pablo Delcan Music by Mondo Boys Artwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Type www.worksbutmakesnoises.com
Two weddings, one Subaru, and an AI that designs your company
2025/09/26
New Grillitype launches, social battery collapse, Palermo wedding gossip, buying a 2008 Subaru on Facebook Marketplace, DMV purgatory, LL Bean collab trim, new iPhone and AirPods takes, AI brand builders, Jacob hates moodboards, designer existentialism David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftman is a Los Angeles-based graphic designer. Currently the Design Director at Grilli Type, he has nearly two decades of experience across studios, in-house roles, and his own practice. Also: big surfer. Artwork by Pablo Delcan Music by Mondo Boys Artwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Type www.worksbutmakesnoises.com
Art, Aging, and AirPods That Randomly Beep
2025/09/06
Catskills nervous system reset, tiny New York party memories, birthday art pilgrimages, Mass MoCA, basic-taste art confessions, work-life blur, Apple event ambivalence, light-phone fantasies David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftman is a Los Angeles-based graphic designer. Currently the Design Director at Grilli Type, he has nearly two decades of experience across studios, in-house roles, and his own practice. Also: big surfer. Artwork by Pablo Delcan Music by Mondo Boys Artwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Type www.worksbutmakesnoises.com

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5 out of 5
11 reviews
★★★★★
esteekim 2025/12/01
Zenwalking for the brain.
Really enjoy their perspectives. Went through four episodes in one sitting. Relatable, curious, and lively topics of the intentional yet unintentional...
★★★★★
gatorbaby95 2025/11/19
WBMN = Design HIGHBROW
My new favorite design podcast 🤌
★★★★★
FGA1988 2025/11/19
A+
The how long gone of the design world! Happy I discovered this!
★★★★★
corrineweldon 2025/11/19
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
A five-star gem for creatives and the creatively curious!
★★★★★
inmygarage 2025/11/19
A Great Listen
Incredible podcast! Highly recommend
★★★★★
Roscoe Motel 2025/11/18
Authenticity in the am
A kind and critical take on daily life and design; I love their individual lenses and this true conversation amongst true friends
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