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Larkin runs over the history of Halloween, including some fun (and not so fun) LGBTQ+ traditions, the appropriation of the holiday by the Church, and the surprisingly sexy origin story of Jack ‘O’ Lanterns. Sprinkled with a little human sacrifice and capped off with a discussion of racism and sexism, this episode contains all the miserable Now It’s Ruined hits that will have you going, “Oh my god, and but of course.”  CONTENT WARNING: Gun violence References THEM: “The Long History of How Halloween Became a Sacred Queer Holiday” Oliver Haug, Oct. 26, 2023https://www.them.us/story/halloween-gay-christmas-lgbtq-history  Halloween in the Castro: How violence destroyed the best party San Francisco ever had Andrew Chamings,Editor-at-Large Updated Oct 25, 2023https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/halloween-castro-history-violence-san-francisco-15661253.php  Halloween: Origins, Movies and Traditions|HISTORYhttps://www.history.com/articles/history-of-halloween  Britannica Editors. "fili". Encyclopedia Britannica, 21 Feb. 2024, https://www.britannica.com/art/fili-ancient-Gaelic-poets  Britannica Editors. "bard". Encyclopedia Britannica, 11 Mar. 2026, https://www.britannica.com/art/bard  Term: Vateshttps://www.etymonline.com/word/vates  Pagan Federationhttps://www.paganfederation.org/what-is-paganism/  Term: Paganhttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pagan  Empire Versus Tribe: The Roman Empire and the Celtshttps://historynet.com/empire-vs-tribe-the-roman-empire-and-the-celts/  Ancient Festival of Beltanehttps://www.history.com/articles/beltane  Britannica Editors. "Beltane". Encyclopedia Britannica, 2 May. 2026, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Beltane  Irish Folklore: Pucahttps://www.wildernessireland.com/blog/irish-folklore-puca/  BBC - All Hallow’s Evehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/holydays/halloween_1.shtml  Dillon, Myles, Cana, Proinsias Mac. "Celtic religion". Encyclopedia Britannica, 21 Nov. 2025, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Celtic-religion Nangia, Tamanna. "Halloween". Encyclopedia Britannica, 13 Sep. 2026, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Halloween  Preston, Charles. "Samhain". Encyclopedia Britannica, 28 Aug. 2026, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Samhain  CNN Target Apologizes https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/24/business/target-apologizes-halloween-costume-backlash-hnk  “Samhain to Soulmass: The Pagan Origins of Familiar Halloween Rituals” Beverly D’Silva, Oct 31, 2024 https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20241030-samhain-to-soulmass-the-pagan-origins-of-familiar-halloween-rituals  “The True History of Halloween Is Even Darker Than You Imagined: Discover what lurks beneath the candy and costumes” Hadley Mendelsohn, Oct 27, 2025https://www.housebeautiful.com/lifestyle/a69149873/halloween-history-origins-evolution/  “Empire Vs. Tribe: The Roman Empire and the Celts”  O’Brien Browne, Jan 25, 2017https://historynet.com/empire-vs-tribe-the-roman-empire-and-the-celts/  “How British colonialism determined whether your country celebrates Halloween” Max Fisher October 31, 2013https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/31/how-british-colonialism-determined-whether-your-country-celebrates-halloween/  Trick-Or-Treating Originshttps://www.history.com/articles/halloween-trick-or-treating-origins  https://www.boreal.org/2024/11/01/470980/over-80-of-halloween-pumpkins-are-thrown-away-each-year-heres-what-you-can-do-instead  https://www.nusconnect.org.uk/articles/the-scary-facts-about-halloween-waste  Archaeology Magazine Archive “Celtic Sacrifice” https://archive.archaeology.org/0201/etc/celtic.html   If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We’re opening spooky month with a brand new episode about a man who loved to ruin people’s spooky fun! Harry Houdini was not only a talented magician and escape artist, he was also a crusader against fake mediums and spiritualists. He spent huge amounts of time, effort, and money debunking frauds and educating the public on their tricks.  Though we do discuss some of his shortcomings, this episode isn’t a true ruin. But this Halloween marks the hundredth anniversary of Houdini’s famous death, so we decided a discussion of his ruinous streak would be appropriate.  CONTENT WARNING: Attempted Suicide References Follow John Cox/Wild About Harry on Insta and Patreon, and check out his website . https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/houdini-biography/  https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/houdini-houdin/ https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/p/metamorphosis.html https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/houdini-beck/ https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2011/07/houdinis-pets.html  https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2013/04/the-handcuff-kings-blog-death-of-rival.html https://auctions.potterauctions.com/_Bean_Giant_Handcuff__Patented_in_1887___Escape_pr-LOT92251.aspx https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/houdini-slander-trial/ https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2015/03/houdinis-escape-from-murderers-row.html https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/p/the-chinese-water-torture-cell.html https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2013/12/unpublished-houdini-with-his-baby.html  https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2011/08/culliton-papers-houdini-and.html https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jack-London https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jack-london https://jacklondonpark.com/charmian-kittredge-london-biography/ https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2020/07/houdini-on-equality.html  https://www.britannica.com/topic/spiritualism-religion https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/a-very-common-delusion-spiritualism-and-the-fox-sisters-97825064/ https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/dec/04/arthur-conan-doyle-secretly-resented-his-sherlock-holmes-creation-says-historian https://www.britannica.com/biography/Arthur-Conan-Doyle https://arthurconandoyle.co.uk/spiritualist https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/history-you-asked/how-did-sir-arthur-conan-doyle-trick-houdini https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2015/aug/10/houdini-and-conan-doyle-impossible-edinburgh-festival https://cswr.hds.harvard.edu/news/2026/03/18/medium-harvard https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/houdini-margery-pamphlet/ https://www.newspapers.com/article/harrisburg-telegraph-houdini-curse-death/3064669/ https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/p/j-gordon-whitehead.html https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/p/edward-saint.html https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2014/10/halloween-1936-final-houdini-seance.html If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Our last upcycle before we come back in October is all about The Christmas Rebellion, aka the Baptist War, which started in Jamaica on Christmas Day in 1831. Led by enslaved Baptist deacon Samuel Sharpe, The Christmas Rebellion was one of the largest slave rebellions in history, with 60,000 of the island’s 300,000 enslaved people taking part. It contributed heavily to England’s abolition of slavery, a practice that claimed the lives of millions of Africans. This episode has a bit of information overlap with our full-length hammocks episode (which we put out a few months after recording this), but it is its own unique story! References https://jis.gov.jm/information/jamaican-history/  https://www.britannica.com/biography/Christopher-Columbus/The-first-voyage  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/who-were-taino-original-inhabitants-columbus-island-73824867/  https://www.embassyofjamaica.org/about_jamaica/history.htm  https://nlj.gov.jm/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CHRONOLOGY_OF_THE_SLAVE_TRADE.pdf  https://www.njstatelib.org/research_library/new_jersey_resources/highlights/african_american_history_curriculum/unit_2_rise_of_afro-americans/  https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/transatlantic-slave-trade-begins  https://www.discoveringbristol.org.uk/slavery/against-slavery/black-resistance-against-slavery/the-maroons-of-jamaica/  https://www.britannica.com/topic/buccaneer  https://www.history.ox.ac.uk/article/how-england-became-the-sweetshop-of-europe  https://runaways.gla.ac.uk/minecraft/index.php/slaves-work-on-sugar-plantations/  https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/content/103864  https://baptist.ca/about-cboq/what-do-baptists-believe/  https://aaregistry.org/story/samuel-sharpe-abolitionist-born/  https://blackpast.org/global-african-history/baptist-war-1831-1832/  https://wiredja.com/index.php/categories/newsberg/culture/that-kensington-fire-which-started-the-sam-sharpe-war-of-1831-32  If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Our September upcycle kicks off with the tale of a dramatic ongoing battle to prevent the resurgence of a particularly nasty pest in the U.S. If you’d really like to challenge yourself, we recommend putting this on while you cook. If you’re still able to eat after listening to Larkin describe festering wounds, flesh-eating maggots, and blood mixed with rotting meat and eggs, congratulations! You’re as voracious as cochliomya hominivorax, aka the Screw Worm.  Since recording this episode, there have been new sightings of screw worms in the United States, specifically in Texas. Be careful out there! References Kursgesagt In a Nutshell - How Nuclear Flies Protect You from Flesh-Eating Parasites https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxq60I5RSW8   CDC Screwworm https://www.cdc.gov/new-world-screwworm/about/index.html   National Library of Medicine https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6346435/   Zombie Deer and the Scientists Behind the War on the Man Eater Sam Jones, October 24, 2022 https://cals.ncsu.edu/news/zombie-deer-and-the-scientists-behind-the-war-on-the-man-eater/  What to Know About the New World Screwworm D’Lyn Ford, July 30, 2025 https://cals.ncsu.edu/news/what-to-know-about-the-new-world-screwworm/  Lab Identification of New World Screwworm CDC August 23, 2024 https://www.cdc.gov/dpdx/resources/pdf/benchaids/NWS-Bench-Aid-2024-508.pdf  Charles Coquerel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coquerel  U.S. Beef Cattle Industry https://swnydlfc.cce.cornell.edu/submission.php?id=1810&crumb=livestock   Video: The Screwworm, Excerpt 2 https://www.nal.usda.gov/exhibits/speccoll/exhibits/show/stop-screwworms--selections-fr/item/6904  A flesh-eating parasite has almost reached the US border. Should we be worried? BBC Tom Howarth, October 17, 2025 https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/flesh-eating-parasite-us If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On October 22, 1989, a stranger snatched Jacob Wetterling off the street near his home in St. Joseph, Minnesota. For nearly 27 years, nobody knew what happened to him.  The story takes one infuriating turn after another as police missteps kept Jacob from being found for over two decades. Eventually, the full, tragic story was revealed. Kate grew up less than an hour from St. Joseph and has been haunted by Jacob’s case for as long as she can remember. When she realized the anniversary of his disappearance coincided with a bonus episode due date, she decided to dedicate that episode to him.  Content Warning: Child Sexual Abuse, Violence Against Children References In the Dark Podcast, S1: https://features.apmreports.org/in-the-dark/season-one/ https://www.npr.org/2025/07/23/g-s1-78924/etan-patz-missing-kids-children-legacy https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-new-trial-pedro-hernandez-man-convicted/story?id=123933826 https://www.apmreports.org/story/2016/09/07/jacob-wetterling#:~:text=He%20liked%20to%20fish%20with,had%20linked%20to%20the%20case. https://www.fox9.com/news/jacob-wetterling-murder-35-years https://www.apmreports.org/story/2016/12/30/27-years-wetterling-child-abduction#:~:text=As%20they%20biked%20up%20the,been%20that%20rustling%20sound%20earlier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jacob_Wetterling#/media/File:Jacob_Wetterling_map.png https://www.kare11.com/article/news/timeline-wetterling-cold-spring-and-the-paynesville-incidents/89-596597576 https://today.magazine.mnsu.edu/s/1913/bp21-micro/interior.aspx?sid=1913&gid=2&pgid=1033 https://www.missingkids.org/gethelpnow/support/teamhope https://amberadvocate.org/amber-feature/advocacy-highlights-family-survival-guide-parents/ dearjacobbook.com If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We know we said we were going to upcycle, but instead let’s recycle! Kate and Larkin are joined by comedian and former marine biologist Forrest Shaw (CONAN, Netflix Is a Joke), who enlightens them about plastic and recycling. Plastic has gone from a miracle substance that was meant to save the elephants to the bane of the planet’s existence. But this isn’t all doom and gloom! Forrest wants us all to know that recycling does work (though not as well/often as we’d like it to), and we can all make a real difference by reducing the amount of plastic we use.  Forrest is currently touring with his science/standup comedy show, The Ocean Hates You. Visit https://www.forrestshaw.net/ or Forrest’s Linktree for tickets and dates! Follow Forrest on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Follow The Ocean Hates You on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. References Recycling History https://time.com/4568234/history-origins-recycling/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Propaganda Against Recycling https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/plastics-industry-insiders-reveal-the-truth-about-recycling/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Plastic Origins https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/releases/national-museum-american-history-showcases-celluloid-first-plastic?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.wired.com/story/the-world-is-drowning-in-plastic-heres-how-it-all-started/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Plastic Waste Sources https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/global-plastics-outlook_de747aef-en.html   Recycling Can Work (And Does Work) : Need To Build and Invest In Better Facilities https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/improving-markets-for-recycled-plastics_9789264301016-en.html https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/publications/reports/2022/06/global-plastics-outlook_f065ef59/aa1edf33-en.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.epa.gov/smm/us-recycling-infrastructure-assessment-and-state-data-collection-reports?utm_source=chatgpt.com LIFE Magazine - Throwaway Society https://time.com/3879873/throwaway-living-when-tossing-it-all-was-all-the-rage/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Oil Companies Suck (General) https://www.ciel.org/news/fossil-fuel-and-chemical-industry-influence-inc4/ Recycling Stats for PET Bottles https://napcor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Postconsumer-PET-Recycling-Activity-in-2018.pdf Holding Producers Of Plastic Accountable https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adj8275 Plastic Problem Solutions https://www.pew.org/en/trend/archive/winter-2022/our-ocean-is-choking-on-plastic-but-its-a-problem-we-can-solve#:~:text=Some%2011%20million%20metric%20tons,by%202040%20without%20ambitious%20action https://wwfint.awsassets.panda.org/downloads/towards_a_treaty_to_end_plastic_pollution___final_report.pdf If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Do Cornflakes and graham crackers make you want to touch yourself? No? Good, that’s part of the goal. Kate takes Larkin on a journey through the history of sexual repression and how it led to a health food movement focused on avoiding the “sin of self-pleasure.” Proponents of this movement included Sylvester Graham and John Harvey Kellogg, who we have to thank for graham crackers and Cornflakes (though it was John Harvey’s brother, W.K., who invented the latter).  This was a randy one that contains some graphic sexual content, so CONTENT WARNING:: Sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, rape, religious sexual trauma References Masturbation euphemisms https://mashable.com/article/masturbation-slang-euphemisms-list IVF Ruling https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/the-alabama-supreme-courts-ruling-on-frozen-embryos https://www.hfea.gov.uk/about-us/news-and-press-releases/2020/new-figures-show-how-different-people-are-using-ivf/ History of sexual repression, particularly regarding masturbation https://www.jstor.org/stable/27505893?mag=a-brief-history-of-masturbation&seq=1 https://hilo.hawaii.edu/campuscenter/hohonu/volumes/documents/Vol06x17SexualRepressionandMasturbation.pdf https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-sin-of-onan https://hekint.org/2023/11/20/samuel-auguste-andre-david-tissot-1728-1797/ https://archive.org/details/b20442348 https://blog.nationalmuseum.ch/en/2020/06/anti-onanism-doctor/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evil-deeds/201801/who-were-the-alienists Hodges FM. The antimasturbation crusade in antebellum American medicine. J Sex Med. 2005 Sep;2(5):722-31. doi: 10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00133.x. PMID: 16422831. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609515312376 Sylvester Graham https://www.britannica.com/biography/Sylvester-Graham https://scalar.usc.edu/works/maine-vegetarian-history-project/1834-sylvester-graham-riot-in-portland https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cereal https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/essays/sylvester-graham-and-antebellum-diet-reform Circumcision https://www.queensu.ca/gazette/stories/circumcision-does-not-reduce-penile-sensitivity-research-finds The Kelloggs https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Harvey-Kellogg Loignon, Austin Eli, "Cornflakes, God, and Circumcision: John Harvey Kellogg and Transatlantic Health Reform" (2019). History Dissertations - Archive. 76. https://mavmatrix.uta.edu/history_dissertations/76/ https://adventist.org/en/beliefs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_G._White https://www.battlecreekvisitors.org/blog/post/facts-about-battle-creeks-world-famous-health-spa-in-the-1900s/ https://bentley.umich.edu/about/collections-magazine/spring-2018/citizen-grain/ https://sph.umich.edu/pursuit/2022posts/the-impact-of-dr-john-harvey-kelloggs-stand-for-eugenics.html https://disabilityjustice.org/basic-legal-rights/right-to-self-determination-freedom-from-involuntary-sterilization/ https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/buck-v-bell-1927/ https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/blog/unwanted-sterilization-and-eugenics-programs-in-the-united-states/ https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/w-k-kellogg https://www.thefoodhistorian.com/blog/the-real-kellogg-recipe-granula-v-granola https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2025/06/bloomers-and-breakfast-cereal-james-caleb-jackson-and-the-founding-of-a-health-movement/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shredded_wheat https://www.britannica.com/biography/C-W-Post Kinsey and De-stigmatization https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1447862/ https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-nov-15-he-kinsey15-story.html https://www.teenvogue.com/story/national-masturbation-month-history https://www.gonzaga.edu/news-events/stories/the-debate-over-sex-education-and-its-consequences Good Vibes https://www.goodvibes.com/?source=pepperjam&publisherId=21181&clickId=5545181938&utm_source=pjn&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=21181&cvosrc=affiliate.pepperjam.21181 If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Larkin blindsides Kate with a truly upsetting ruin regarding one of the world’s favorite treats. Learn how chocolate went from ritualistic beverage to corporate juggernaut, built on the backs of people who will never have the luxury of tasting it.  Content Warning: Violence, torture, child abuse It’s practically impossible to find ethically sourced cocoa products, but here’s the list Larkin mentions: https://foodispower.org/chocolate-list/ References YouTube Video - Carla Martin: Cocoa Crisis https://youtu.be/_a4si2TCw0U YouTube Video - Carla Martin: “What Makes Chocolate Good?” https://youtu.be/Z3M9Vswd6Js?si=r_jbanxQJhELXlVl NC State University Cooperative Extension “The Cacao Tree: From Ancient Mesoamerica to Global Chocolate”  Gene Fox, April 14, 2025 https://beaufort.ces.ncsu.edu/news/the-cacao-tree-from-ancient-mesoamerica-to-global-chocolate/ Cook, L. Russell. "cacao". Encyclopedia Britannica, 12 Jun. 2026, https://www.britannica.com/plant/cacao Myhrvold, Nathan, Blumberg, Naomi. "chocolate". Encyclopedia Britannica, 22 Apr. 2026, https://www.britannica.com/topic/chocolate NIH National Library of Medicine: Samanta, Sharmistha et al. “Dark chocolate: An overview of its biological activity, processing, and fortification approaches.” Current research in food science vol. 5 1916-1943. 15 Oct. 2022, doi:10.1016/j.crfs.2022.10.017  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9589144/ University of California Botanical Garden at Berkley: “Does Chocolate Grow on Trees?” December 5, 2025 https://botanicalgarden.berkeley.edu/learn/garden-stories/does-chocolate-grow-on-trees/ History.com Article “History of Chocolate” History.com Editors. May 27, 2026 https://www.history.com/articles/history-of-chocolate Yucatan Magazine “The Misunderstood History of the Great Aztec Empire” Carlos Rosado van der GrachtMay 19, 2025 https://yucatanmagazine.com/aztec-history/ Indigenous Mexico “Mexica or Aztec: How the Mexicas Were Renamed”  https://www.indigenousmexico.org/articles/mexica-or-aztec-how-the-mexicas-were-renamed Aztlán (Aslan) Tenochtitlan (Tenochiclan) Huizilopochtili (hoo-ee-chlee-oh-potchli) Cornell University Library: Online Exhibitions “When Money Grew on Trees” https://exhibits.library.cornell.edu/chocolate-food-of-the-gods/feature/when-money-grew-on-trees Cornell Botanic Gardens “For the Love of Chocolate”  Sarah Fiorello February 13, 2024 https://cornellbotanicgardens.org/for-the-love-of-chocolate World History Encyclopedia “Sugar & the Rise of the Plantation System” James Hancock, June 18, 2021 https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1784/sugar--the-rise-of-the-plantation-system/ The Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University “Chocolate History” 2015 https://ansp.org/press-room/press-releases/2014/chocolate-history Lowcountry Digital History Initiative - College of Charleston “Voyage of the Echo: Trials of an Illegal Trans-Atlantic Slave Ship - Historical Context: Abolishing the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade”  https://ldhi.library.cofc.edu/exhibits/show/voyage-of-the-echo-the-trials/historic-context--abolishing-t ResearchGate “The bitter and sweet of chocolate in Europe” Carla D. Martin, January 2015 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/290471791_The_bitter_and_sweet_of_chocolate_in_Europe ResearchGate “From Cocoa Farms to Candy Chutes” Dr. Carla Martin & Kathryn Sampeck. January 8, 2021 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375717625_From_Cocoa_Farms_to_Candy_Chutes The Tufts Daily “Dr. Carla Martin discusses politics of chocolate” Abigail Feldman February 5, 2016 https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2016/02/dr-carla-martin-discusses-politics-chocolate-gives-samples-chocolate Digital Commons: Sackett, Marjie (2008) "Forced Child Labor and Cocoa Production in West Africa," Human Rights & Human Welfare: Vol. 8: Iss. 1, Article 34.  https://digitalcommons.du.edu/hrhw/vol8/iss1/34/ The Washington Post “Cocoa’s child laborers: Mars, Nestlé and Hershey pledged nearly two decades ago to stop using cocoa harvested by children. Yet much of the chocolate you buy still starts with child labor.” Peter Whoriskey & Rachel Siegel, June 5, 2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/business/hershey-nestle-mars-chocolate-child-labor-west-africa/ Bureau of International Labor Affairs - ‘The Department of Labor’ Exposing Exploitation in Global Supply Chains  https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/reports/child-labor/list-of-goods/supply-chains/cocoa Food Empowerment Project “Child Labor and Slavery in the Chocolate Industry”  https://foodispower.org/human-labor-slavery/slavery-in-the-chocolate-industry/ If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. 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In honor of America’s 250th birthday, Kate ruins one of the most consistently idealized figures in American history: George Washington. Content Warning: Violence, gore, slavery, genocide, and rape Support Kate’s Series: https://www.dogoodpoints.com/fund/meat-cute-series Ken Burns documentary, The American Revolution: https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-american-revolution/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23864638707&gbraid=0AAAAAooDyp12zonjrN5VFMNZ7Gpx9qeJ9&gclid=CjwKCAjw0dPRBhAPEiwAE5vTTn5usyE90QRx1DmrrCX8SyT92PBZkYbv64z7M6U_ZKkEtlkFpvil4hoCwREQAvD_BwE Mount Vernon Slavery Database: https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/slavery/slavery-database Complete Reference List If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Online privacy isn’t just about your cookie settings. Corporations like Facebook have filed some truly creepy patents that reveal their ability to track everything from dust on your camera lens to who you talked to the most at a party. Target may even know you’re pregnant before you do… Kate and Larkin are joined by Ben Silver, who made them stutter, hide, and nearly walk away as he reveals all the information companies have about us. Grab your tinfoil hats and prepare to be unsettled.  About Ben Silver: Ben holds an undergraduate degree in Computer Science and Math from the University of Hartford, a master’s degree in Instructional Technology and Media from Columbia University, and is currently at Columbia working on his second master’s in Data, Learning, and Society. His research has focused on technology, education, accessibility, culture, and ethics. As a creator, Ben rides the waves of his unreliable brain chemistry… it’s a fun ride, if you’d like to follow along. He lives in New York City with several dead houseplants, he loves the moon, and he wants you to drink more water. You can follow him on TikTok and Instagram. To take action against the proposed federal rule: Leave a public comment on the proposed rule attempting to erase trans and non-binary people: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/29/2026-10817/regulation-for-federal-financial-assistance Kate’s language, if you want to base your comment off hers: “This proposed rule is an insidious attempt to smuggle anti-trans and non-binary sentiment into government funding. It allows for a politically appointed reviewer to deny funding based on ‘denial by the recipient of the sex binary in humans or the notion that sex is a chosen or mutable characteristic.’ § 200.205(b)(ii).  §200.205(b)(i) also allows for denial of funding if an organization uses ‘Racial preferences or other forms of racial discrimination by the recipient, including activities where race or intentional proxies for race will be used as a selection criterion for employment or program participation.’ This is incredibly broad and is clearly meant to penalize any organization that dares to focus on the issues faced by non-white communities.  Denial of funding based on these parameters is atrocious. It will affect not only the communities it attempts to erase, but anyone who hopes to receive help from hospitals or other organizations that may be denied funding based on these sweeping standards. It is, in a word, fascism. If this rule is to move forward, it should eliminate the portions allowing for witholding of funding based on an organization's acknowledgement of trans and non-binary individuals, and support of non-white communities. As an attorney and as a citizen, I strongly condemn the language in this proposed rule. The attempted erasure of transgender, non-binary, and non-white individuals by this administration is abhorrent and downright un-American.” Erin in the Morning article about the above-mentioned proposed rule: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/fascismnew-federal-rule-would-require References Patent: Inferring relationship statuses of users of a social networking system https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150356180A1/en Patent: Associating cameras with users and objects in a social networking system https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150124107A1/en Patent: Techniques for emotion detection and content delivery https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150242679A1/en Patent: Systems and methods for utilizing wireless communications to suggest connections for a user https://patents.justia.com/patent/10111059 Your phone isn’t secretly listening to you, but the truth is more disturbing https://newatlas.com/computers/smartphone-listening-conversations-ads-facebook/ Here’s the Pitch Deck for ‘Active Listening’ Ad Targeting https://www.404media.co/heres-the-pitch-deck-for-active-listening-ad-targeting How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/?sh=208c9bd76668 How Companies Learn Your Secrets http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html (Archived) https://archive.is/20120910190622/http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html Facebook Now Suggesting Friends Found in Imported Contact Lists? https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/facebook-now-suggesting-friends-found-in-imported-contact-lists/ Social Media Patents & Privacy Data https://www.metaverselaw.com/facebook-patents-and-privacy-new-ways-to-mine-personal-information/ Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens https://gizmodo.com/facebook-knows-how-to-track-you-using-the-dust-on-your-1821030620 Uber State Interference https://www.nelp.org/insights-research/uber-state-interference/ If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. 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Happy Pride! In the spirit of the season, Kate tells the story of Alan Turing. During World War II, Turing designed a machine that could decrypt tens of thousands of Nazi communications per month, likely shortening the war by several years and saving millions of lives.  He was lauded as a hero… until it was revealed he was gay. His conviction for “gross indecency” led to the tragic end of a brilliant visionary who pushed computer science forward by leaps and bounds.  Kate also gives a very high-level overview of the history of computers through the mid-20th century, and discusses the shady Nazi dealings of IBM and its president, Thomas Watson.  Content Warning: Suicide References History of Computers https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/computer https://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/Ancient-Africa/lebombo.html https://afrolegends.com/2019/05/17/the-lebombo-bone-the-oldest-mathematical-artifact-in-the-world/ https://mathigon.org/timeline/ishango https://old.maa.org/press/periodicals/convergence/mathematical-treasure-ishango-bone https://kb.osu.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/5ec33729-835c-5b97-8993-f6ea84bd7617/content https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/computers/ https://www.britannica.com/technology/computer/History-of-computing https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/analog-vs-digital/all https://control.com/textbook/digital-data-acquisition-and-networks/digital-representation-of-numerical-data/ https://www.paleotechnologist.net/?p=5264 https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinknudson/2017/01/21/the-humble-logarithm/ https://www.nps.gov/long/blogs/a-gunter-scale-used-for-navigation-and-mathematics.htm https://web.mit.edu/2.972/www/reports/slide_rule/slide_rule.html https://sites.imsa.edu/hadron/2024/04/02/decoding-the-digital-age-how-binary-code-rules-our-world/ http://scienceandindustrymuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/jacquard-loom https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/charles-babbages-difference-engines-and-science-museum https://www.computerhistory.org/babbage/engines/ https://www.computerhistory.org/babbage/adalovelace/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666389920301598 Thomas Watson and IBM https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/watson_hi.html https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2021/02/carroll-21-and-meirowitz-22-why-is-brown-celebrating-a-nazi-honoree-rename-the-watson-cit https://www.nytimes.com/1940/06/07/archives/1937-hitler-decoration-is-returned-by-watson.html https://chsi.harvard.edu/harvard-ibm-mark-1-about IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America’s Most Powerful Corporation: https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=ICISEAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP8&dq=thomas+j+watson,+Ibm,+and+nazi+germany&ots=dvygruNeA_&sig=pGtz198U3coJnEUA8E6qVvABOzQ#v=onepage&q=thomas%20j%20watson%2C%20Ibm%2C%20and%20nazi%20germany&f=false Alan Turing https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18419691 https://www.bbc.co.uk/teach/articles/zhwp7nb#zbmwcxs 15-year-old Alan: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/976xn/p02ck8fl.jpg.webp https://www.britannica.com/biography/Alan-Turing https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/enigma-codebreaker-alan-turing-two-jewish-refugees/ https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/the-enigma-of-alan-turing/ https://www.mub.eps.manchester.ac.uk/science-engineering/2024/06/18/an-indicted-hero-honouring-alan-turing-as-a-gay-man-failed-by-society-pride-month-2024/ If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kate acts as the Scully to Larkin’s Mulder as Larkin walks her through the evidence (of varying credibility) for Nessie’s existence. And like Scully, Kate winds up being less skeptical than when she started.  We weren't intending to upcycle this week, but we had a guest drop last-minute and didn't have time to put something else together in a thoughtful way. We'll be back all new on the next one with a (sad) story for Pride! References https://www.nature.scot/landscapes-and-habitats/habitat-types/lochs-rivers-and-wetlands/freshwater-lochs ​​https://www.historyhit.com/painted-people-who-were-the-picts/#:~:text=Before%20the%20Romans%20came%20to,which%20later%20evolved%20into%20Scotland. ​​https://www.digitscotland.com/scottish-archaeology-and-the-loch-ness-legend/ https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-14881753 https://www.scotclans.com/pages/the-loch-ness-monster https://www.geolsoc.org.uk/the-library/online-exhibitions/mary-anning-and-the-geological-society/reconstruction-of-life/plesiosaurus-dolichodeirus/ https://www.britannica.com/animal/plesiosaur Images from sonar and imaging study in the 70s: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptozoology/comments/n99p51/photos_from_the_mit_sonar_and_imaging_study_of/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2007/10/15/223418/the-nessie-quest/ If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Extra virgin olive oil is one of the most useful, healthy substances on earth. Eating just two tablespoons a day can help prevent heart problems, cancer, and even Alzheimer’s.  But that’s assuming you have real EVOO, which… you probably don’t. And you might have paid the mafia for the knockoff sitting on your shelf. Kate, now an olive oil obsessive, enlightens Larkin on the incredible history and science behind olive oil, before discussing the issue of oil fraud that plagues the industry. Then, she gives some tips on how to find good oil from Tom Mueller, author of Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil.  Plus, she and Larkin discuss the uncomfortable romanticization of the mafia.  We want to emphasize that we are NOT trying to turn you off olive oil! We just want to help you maximize the benefits by making sure you find the good stuff.  References Tom Mueller, Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil, Atlantic Books, 2012  Tom’s article in the New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/08/13/slippery-business Tom’s Website: https://www.tommueller.co/extravirginigy https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/world/mafia-olive-oil-on-60-minutes/50203 https://www.oliveoilsource.com/info/history-of-the-olive https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/celebrations/article/hanukkah https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/add-antioxidants-to-your-diet/art-20546814 https://health.ucdavis.edu/blog/good-food/olive-oils-health-benefits-and-why-you-should-add-it-to-your-diet/2024/04 https://www.mdanderson.org/cancerwise/what-are-free-radicals-a-dietitian-explains.h00-159699912.html https://history.state.gov/countries/italy https://time.com/4788671/hunger-italy-food-culture/ https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2025/05/08/olive-oil-a-major-target-for-food-fraud/ https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mafia https://people.howstuffworks.com/mafia.htm#pt1 https://kottke.org/07/11/the-mafias-ten-commandments https://theweek.com/crime/italian-mafia-why-is-murder-and-extortion-going-out-of-fashion Toxic Oil Syndrome: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1240833/ Get Gotti on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81712582 Fear City: New York vs. The Mafia on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80218338 If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Happy 4/20! In honor of the informal holiday, we’re giving you this episode two entire days early! If you celebrate, grab your favorite means of ingestion and listen as Larkin talks all things sticky and icky, breaking down the history of how cannabis was used as an excuse for racism and anti-immigrant sentiment, eventually leading to its criminalization. The movement against this hearty “herb” has fueled oppression, fed the prison-industrial complex, and stalled research about the potential benefits. Plus, the formerly social drug is now increasing social isolation among 1 in 15 American adults.  References Kursgesagt - In a Nutshell “You Need to Quit Weed” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brm71uCWr-I TIME Magazine article “420 Day: Why There Are So Many Different Names for Weed” Katy Steinmetz. April 20, 2017 https://time.com/4747501/420-day-weed-marijuana-pot-slang/ PBS Eons - “The Hazy Evolution of Cannabis” https://www.pbs.org/video/the-hazy-evolution-of-cannabis-cyjdln/ Science Advances research article: “Large Scale Whole-Genome resequencing unravels the domestication history of Cannabis sativa” 16 Jul 2021 Vol 7, Issue 29 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abg2286 NPR Codeswitch: The Mysterious History Of 'Marijuana' Matt Thompson July 22, 2013 https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/14/201981025/the-mysterious-history-of-marijuana The MIT Press Reader: ‘Cannabis Through the Ages’ Linda A. Parker  https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/cannabis-through-the-ages/ The MIT Press Reader. ‘A Brief Global History of the War on Cannabis’ Ryan Stoa https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/a-brief-global-history-of-the-war-on-cannabis/ Dictionary definition “Marijuana” https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marijuana The University of Sydney: Lambert Initiative for Cannabinoid Therapeutics “History of Cannabis https://www.sydney.edu.au/lambert/medicinal-cannabis/history-of-cannabis.html HISTORY.com Authors: Marijuana https://www.history.com/articles/history-of-marijuana Lee, Martin A. “Smoke Signals: A Social History of Marijuana – Medical, Recreational and Scientific” Scribner, August 13, 2013 Anslinger Testimony  https://www.hempology.org/ALL%20HISTORY%20ARTICLES.HTML/1937%20ANSLINGER%20TESTIMONY.html ACLU Stats https://www.aclu.org/the-war-on-marijuana-in-black-and-white https://www.aclu.org/the-war-on-marijuana-in-black-and-white Brownie Mary  https://www.sfweekly.com/archives/the-legacy-of-brownie-mary/article_b9ac6c31-dd01-5228-8d63-f0418aed36dd.html Missouri Independent “Why some people believe ‘marijuana’ is a racist word, and why it doesn’t offend me: Latin American History Professor Isaac Campos recently published findings online of his study on the history of cannabis terminology” Rebecca Rivas. May, 2023 https://missouriindependent.com/2023/05/02/why-some-people-believe-marijuana-is-a-racist-word-and-why-it-doesnt-offend-me/ If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kate and Larkin welcome fashion enthusiast and content creator KP Deluxe, who tells us about the predictably racist, patriarchal origins of sizing in fashion. KP outlines our journey from bespoke, customizable pieces to the fast fashion nightmare of today, and how the realities of women’s bodies were repeatedly ignored in favor of mass production.  Follow KP/Styled Over Substance on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube.  Check out Ifemi, the ready-to-wear line for plus-sized women, and sign up to be notified when it drops. References https://fashionhistory.fitnyc.edu/1860-1869/ https://books.google.co.za/books?hl=en&lr=&id=KqSjAgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=the+history+of+sizing&ots=UmW7pq8OC9&sig=AK2KmyOJ6RV91jbPGQRMxLaQPDE&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=the%20history%20of%20sizing&f=false https://time.com/3532014/women-clothing-sizes-history/ https://fashionmagazine.com/style/vanity-sizing/ https://www.bu.style/articles/clothing-sizing https://medium.com/sizolution/a-brief-history-of-sizing-systems-aee6bd066834 https://www.seamwork.com/style-and-wardrobe/the-origins-of-clothing-sizes?srsltid=AfmBOooeAY2Kg18VOTWGOTdHcnrk_AnkpuGgLW854Grs0v8X0cMId2Nl https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0887302X0502300301 https://twyg.co.za/struggle-for-size-inclusivity/ https://www.vogue.com/article/the-vogue-business-spring-summer-2026-size-inclusivity-report https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0891243218756010 https://www.theworldwar.org/learn/women https://fashionhistory.fitnyc.edu/1910-1919/ tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2752/175174109X467512?__cf_chl_tk=LC4e9csNn0vhBSzAq2PuzNuxkRbH.a8azzTyxQOdVUM-1775066032-1.0.1.1-fqS2dfMCXo0s4.d9pjCv43thIg_j5LLPqLa13Jy38tc https://www.illustrationhistory.org/essays/flapper-fashion-illustrating-the-garments-worn-by-the-modern-woman-during-the-jazz-age-1919-1942 https://www.britannica.com/topic/flapper If you know something we can ruin, send the topic and a brief hint at how it's ruined to [email protected]. Let us know if you'd like us to credit you if we choose your topic! Follow us on Patreon for updates, video episodes, and lots of fun bonus content (even for unpaid members). You can also follow us on YouTube and Instagram. You can also follow Kate and Larkin! Kate is on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. Larkin is on TikTok and Instagram. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.