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2025/12/16
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2026/11/02
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Australian politics, minus the spin. Neil Pharaoh and Erin Watson put the week's biggest political stories through the pub test - does it make sense, is it fair, and what does it really mean? New episodes weekly.
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Why One Nation Rejected Albanese’s Offer and What’s Happening in Ukraine
2026/11/02
Why did One Nation reject Anthony Albanese’s offer of an extra staffer for One Nation MP David Farley? The Prime Minister has the power to determine MPs’ additional staffing. How much room does that leave for political influence?
Victorians head to the polls this month to choose their next premier. So why haven’t Ben Carroll and Jess Wilson agreed to a debate and what’s behind the dispute over who should be included?
To close, guest host Misha Zelinsky, a former Australian Financial Review correspondent in Ukraine, joins Erin to discuss the current state of the Russia–Ukraine war.
00:00 Introduction and guest host Misha Zelinsky
09:33 Fast Five
32:26 Pauline Hanson and Albanese’s staff offer
42:25 The state of the Russia–Ukraine war
48:24 How could the war end?
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Misha
https://www.instagram.com/mishazelinsky/
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Links
Albanese’s staff offer to One Nation: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-29/one-nation-mp-turns-down-extra-staffer-from-pm/107325240
The Victorian leaders’ debate: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-11-01/victorian-election-labor-liberal-tough-battle/107331376Misha Zelinsky’s The Sun Will Rise: https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/The-Sun-Will-Rise/Misha-Zelinsky/9781637632956
Democracy in Decline
2026/10/26
Political violence, riots and targeted political attacks are pushing tensions to a boiling point. After the alleged attack on independent MP Helen Haines, Australia is confronting a difficult question: how do we keep MPs safe when more than 1,000 threat reports involving politicians and staff were recorded last financial year, yet not every MP has access to security?
With consequential elections approaching around the world, what does this moment mean for democracy?
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Links and references
Monique Ryan on cleaning up Question Time — ABC Newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-21/helen-haines-attack-live-updates-brendan-nugent-court-hearing/107290276
Monique Ryan on political conduct and the response to Helen Haines’s attack — The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/oct/26/haines-tribute-speeches-to-open-parliament-but-labor-mustnt-overlook-broader-causes-of-boiling-anger-ntwnfb
Threat reports and politicians’ security — The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/oct/20/helen-haines-alleged-attack-response-tightened-security-ntwnfb
Alice Weidel on the AfD’s family policy — The Economisthttps://www.facebook.com/TheEconomist/videos/alice-weidel-on-the-afds-stance-on-non-traditional-families/1149528687733247/
Full Alice Weidel interview — The Economisthttps://shows.acast.com/theintelligencepodcast/episodes/an-interview-with-alice-weidel
V-Dem Democracy Report 2026https://www.v-dem.net/documents/75/V-Dem_Institute_Democracy_Report_2026_lowres.pdf
Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williamshttps://www.panmacmillan.com.au/9781035065967/
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Who Is Teaching Australian Boys What It Means to Be a Man?
2026/10/19
Tarang Chawla joins The Pub Test to discuss what Australian boys are learning about masculinity and how online influencers, algorithms and communities shape that picture.
Watch and read:
https://www.abc.net.au/about/media-centre/publicity-media-room/marc-fennell-confronts-the-manosphere-in-the-state-of-man/107150086
https://www.stan.com.au/watch/revealed-poster-boy-becoming-zyzz-2026
https://www.dvnsw.org.au/reports/ending-violence-in-regional-and-remote-nsw/
https://www.endviolenceagainstwomen.org.uk/new-evaw-x-refuge-report-reveals-shocking-scale-of-online-misogyny-and-abuse/
Tarang Chawla:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tarangchawla/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tarangchawla/
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How Did an OpenAI Agent Break Into an Australian Government Website?
2026/10/12
An OpenAI agent gained unauthorised access to an Australian government website. How did it happen and what does it tell us about the risks of AI advancing faster than we can regulate it?
We also look at One Nation's controversial AI generated election ad, the unintended consequences of Australia's credit card surcharge ban and what's caused protests in India and unrest in France. What do these movements reveal about the future of democracy?
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Why Governments Are Addicted to Stamp Duty
2026/10/05
Stamp duty can add $40,000 to the cost of a $750,000 home in Victoria. If it makes buying harder and discourages people from moving, why is it so difficult for state governments to scrap?
Then, Australia’s high-speed rail debate. Is the proposed $61 billion Sydney to Newcastle connection the right place to start and what will it take to finally get it built?
Finally, more than 30 years after apartheid ended, why does South Africa remain so unequal? We look at how its history still shapes where people live, their opportunities and the country’s politics.
0:00 Setting the Stage for the Pub Test1:07 The Digital Rabbit Holes We Fall Into4:53 The True Cost of Stamp Duty8:01 The Curious History of Property Titles17:45 The Great High-Speed Rail Debate25:29 A Deep Dive Into South Africa33:40 The Stark Reality of Inequality
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Albo's Trump Selfie, Labor Running Third in Victoria & Kazakhstan’s Growing Power
2026/09/28
Kazakhstan is the world's largest uranium producer and is becoming increasingly important to global energy, trade and critical minerals. So why should Australia be paying more attention?
First, we catch Neil up on the week in Australian politics. Labor is polling third in Victoria, raising questions about whether Ben Carroll can turn the party's position around before the election. We also look at Albo's Trump selfie, school funding and our predictions for the 2026 AFL Grand Final.
Then Scott Munn, General Secretary of the Kazakhstan Football Federation, joins us to talk about life in Kazakhstan, the country's growing international profile and how football fits into its national ambitions.
0:00 Setting the Scene for the Pub Test0:49 Life in Mallorca: Beyond the Headlines4:46 Speed Dating Through Politics7:12 Trump vs The Algorithm10:02 The Victorian Political Landscape13:40 The Child Protection Crisis20:05 Regional Holidays and Racing Fever26:28 Inside the Kazakhstan Football Federation
Scott Munn
https://www.instagram.com/scottamunn/
Kazakhstan Football Federation
https://kff.kz/
This episode was supported by Thrive by Five
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Who Wins Victoria, the Broken GST Deal & Why We Forgot Myanmar
2026/09/21
Victoria goes to the polls in November with its third premier since 2022 — and voters picked neither of the last two. Will Labor pay for that? And will the rewritten upper-house rules actually change who wins a seat?
Then, why does Western Australia receive special protection in the distribution of GST revenue and is the current arrangement fair to the rest of the country?
Finally, why have Myanmar’s civil war and the Rohingya refugee crisis largely disappeared from Australian attention?
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Are We Over Diagnosing Kids, The Parenting Crisis & Moldova’s Fight for Democracy
2026/09/14
Are we too focused on fixing children instead of the systems around them?
Dr Caroline Croser-Barlow, CEO of The Front Project, joins us to talk about early childhood, rising diagnosis, the pressure on parents and teachers and why supporting the adults around children may be just as important as diagnosing the child.
Dr Caroline Croser-Barlow is a former senior public servant with extensive experience across early childhood education, disability in education and social policy, including senior roles in South Australia’s Department for Education
Then we head to Moldova, a small democracy caught between Europe and Russia. What can its experience with disinformation, vote buying and foreign interference teach Australia about protecting democracy?
The Front Project
https://www.thefrontproject.org.au/
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Australia's Parenting Problem & Why Ireland Looks So Rich
2026/09/07
What does parenting in Australia really look like and are parents getting enough support?
Rob Ryan, CEO of the Parenting Research Centre, joins us to unpack new national parenting research. Does the way we raise our kids pass the pub test?
Then over to Ireland, a small country with big wealth on paper. But how much of that comes from its low corporate tax rates and how are everyday Irish people being affected by housing, migration and the country’s complicated history? How rich is Ireland really?
Rob Ryan is CEO of the Parenting Research Centre and has more than 30 years of experience across child protection, community services and family support, including 19 years in senior roles with Queensland's Department of Child Safety.
Parenting Research Centre
parentingrc.org.au
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Other resources mentioned
Raising Children Network
https://raisingchildren.net.au/
Parenting Today
https://www.parentingrc.org.au/tools/parenting-today/
This episode was supported by the Minderoo Foundation
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https://www.thrivebyfive.org.au/
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Pakistan’s Growing Power, Australia’s Child Protection Crisis & Alice Springs
2026/08/31
Pakistan is back in the news, with Imran Khan, its relationship with India and its growing role in talks between the US and Iran. So why does Pakistan matter and why should Australia be paying more attention?
Then Catherine Liddle, CEO of SNAICC, joins us to talk about what’s happening in Alice Springs, Australia’s child protection system and why tough-on-crime politics can miss the bigger picture.
SNAICC – National Voice for our Children
https://www.snaicc.org.au/
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/snaicc_/?hl=en
Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/snaicc/
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Australia’s Lobbying Problem, Victoria’s New Premier & The One Nation Test
2026/08/24
We’re back from the winter break with plenty to catch up on. Ben Carroll is Victoria’s new Premier, One Nation is becoming a serious threat to the Coalition and Australia’s political landscape is shifting fast.
Then Saffron Zomer, Executive Director of the Australian Democracy Network, joins us to discuss their new report, The Invisible Hand, which examines lobbying, political influence and transparency in Australia. How much influence happens outside public view and what needs to change to make the system more transparent?
Instagram: @australiandemocracynetwork
LinkedIn: @australian-democracy-network
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61572934507699
#LobbyingActNow
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This episode was supported by the Minderoo Foundation
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Pauline Hanson’s Parental Leave Backflip, Childcare Battlelines & The American Royal Wedding
2026/07/06
On the eve of July 4th, American royalty gets married, but what are the political and pop culture consequences?
Why did Pauline Hanson’s comments on paid parental leave hit such a nerve with Australian parents?
Has childcare choice become the next major political fight?
And is Australia’s early education system built for modern families, or for a world that no longer exists?
Dolly Parton’s Dollywood Foundation
https://imaginationlibrary.com/the-dollywood-foundation/
Jen Fleming is the CEO and co-founder of Childcare Choice, a parent-led advocacy movement pushing for more flexible childcare funding and greater choice for Australian families.
https://childcarechoice.com.au/
Georgie Dent is the CEO of The Parenthood, a lawyer, author and leading advocate for paid parental leave, early education and better policy support for children and families.
https://www.theparenthood.org.au/
This episode was powered by Tanck and Baker & Yorkhttps://tanck.com.au/https://www.bakerandyork.com/https://www.thepubtestpodcast.com/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown
Karl Stefanovic’s Podcast Problem, Are the Teals Uniting & Albania’s Revolution
2026/06/29
This week on The Pub Test, Karl Stefanovic’s controversial podcast moment, the teals’ move to unite under a new political banner, and why Albania has become the centre of a major tourism and development protest.
From One Nation’s media strategy to the future of independent politics and the fight over Albania’s coastline, it’s a sharp look at how politics is playing out locally, nationally and globally.
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00:02:33 — Teals unite under Community Strong Australia
00:09:57 — Karl Stefanovic, One Nation & UK political influence
00:29:38 — Albania’s tourism protest with Dr Ornela Çuçi
Leadership Spills, Lobbying Loopholes & Why Georgia Matters
2026/06/22
Why do Australian parties keep removing their own leaders? Who really has influence inside Parliament? And why does Georgia matter in the struggle between Europe and Russia?
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Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown
00:01:12 — Leadership spills in Australia
00:17:14 — Lobbying, influence and what Neil/Erin do
00:32:01 — Georgia, Russia and democratic pressure
Why Are We Still Talking About the Budget?
2026/06/15
The Budget Is Over. The Fight Isn’t. Four weeks after the 2026 Federal Budget, Australia is still arguing about it.
The Budget was handed down four weeks ago.
So why are we still fighting about it?
This week on The Pub Test, Neil Pharaoh and Dr Erin Watson hear two very different takes on the 2026 Federal Budget.
Joseph Mitchell from the ACTU says it starts shifting the burden from workers to wealth.
Innes Willox from Australian Industry Group says it risks creating uncertainty for business, investment and small employers.
Workers versus wealth. Growth versus fairness. Certainty versus reform.
The Budget may be over — but the argument clearly isn’t.
Find out more
Australian Unions / ACTU
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AustralianUnions/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ausunions/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aus.unions
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AustralianUnions
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/australian-unions/
#AustralianUnions
Australian Industry Group
Website: https://www.australianindustrygroup.com.au/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AustralianIndustryGroup/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/australianindustrygroup/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/australian-industry-group/
#AustralianIndustryGroup #AllForBusiness #ThePubTest #AusPol
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Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown
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