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What if many of the economic problems we face aren't inevitable, but the result of deliberate policy choices? And what if changing the economy starts with questioning the assumptions we've been taught about how it works? Marcus Champ is a behavioural scientist, economics student and co-founder of Public Money Public Good, a grassroots economic advocacy group working to challenge mainstream economic thinking and build public understanding of alternative approaches. Drawing on his studies in the Economics of Sustainability at Torrens University, Marcus explores the limitations of mainstream economics and introduces alternative perspectives, including heterodox economics, modern monetary theory and ecological economics. We discuss the role of government spending and public debt, the concentration of corporate power, inequality, privatisation and the economic structures that shape our everyday lives. We also explore why economic literacy is essential for systems change, how Public Money Public Good is working to shift public narratives through education and community workshops, and why creating a more sustainable, just and democratic economy begins with recognising that the rules of our economic system can be changed. Learn more about Public Money Public Good: https://publicmoneypublicgood.net/ Explore their upcoming workshops and events. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

What if the biggest barrier to building a fair, sustainable society isn't capitalism alone—but money itself? For decades, sociologist Terry Leahy has explored one of the most radical ideas in the new economy movement: replacing monetary exchange with a gift economy built on cooperation, voluntary agreements and mutual care. While the idea may sound utopian at first, Terry argues that many of its foundations already exist in community-supported agriculture, cooperative projects and autonomous communities around the world. Our conversation explores why modern economies have become so dependent on endless growth, what everyday life might actually look like in a gift economy, and why Terry believes a post-growth future will require us to fundamentally rethink work, technology, consumption and our relationship with one another. Along the way we discuss anarchism, degrowth, abundance, community governance and the practical pathways that could help societies transition beyond capitalism. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

In this thought-provoking conversation, philosopher and systems thinker Ruth Irwin explores why our economic system has become dependent on perpetual growth, how modern banking quietly fuels that growth, and why technological innovation alone cannot solve our ecological challenges. Ruth also challenges some of our deepest assumptions about progress, time and human society, drawing on Indigenous knowledge, systems thinking and ecological philosophy to imagine an economy built around interconnection rather than endless expansion. Ruth Irwin is a philosopher, systems thinker and researcher whose work explores the intersections of climate change, economics, banking, thermodynamics and social transformation. For more than three decades she has investigated the structural drivers of ecological crises, developing new ideas around entropy economics, post-growth futures and the role of banking in shaping modern economies. Ruth is the author of Economic Futures: Climate Change and Modernity, where she brings together philosophy, economics, Indigenous perspectives and systems thinking to reimagine how societies can thrive within ecological limits. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

How do we feed a world of 10 billion people in the face of climate change, conflict, resource constraints and increasingly complex global supply chains? Saba Sinai, Lecturer in Agriculture at CQUniversity, joins Voices of the New Economy to explore why the future of food security is about much more than simply producing more food. Drawing on his work at the intersection of agriculture and society, Saba examines how affordability, access, food waste, infrastructure, climate change and conflict shape who gets to eat — and why socioeconomic solutions need to sit alongside agricultural and technological ones. We explore the relationship between local and global food systems, why strong communities are essential to food security, how conflict can disrupt agriculture and turn food into a geopolitical issue, and why peace and international cooperation matter to the future of food. We also discuss humanity's relationship with the natural world, the resilience and ingenuity of farmers, and why creating a more secure food future ultimately requires us to think not only about the solutions we pursue, but how we work together to create them. Join Saba at ⁠Newkind Conference⁠ 2026: use the code NENA for 20% off registration. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

Many of us have been taught that success means earning more, buying more and consuming more. But what if the opposite were true? What if living with less could actually lead to greater wellbeing, stronger communities and a more meaningful life? Jon, the creator of Living More with Less, shares how his family has come remarkably close to living a one-planet lifestyle while discovering greater freedom, generosity and connection along the way. Drawing on decades of personal experimentation, engineering, environmental advocacy and effective giving, Jon challenges many of our assumptions about wealth, work and what it means to live well. Our conversation explores the psychology of scarcity and abundance, practical ways to reduce consumption without sacrificing quality of life, the philosophy of effective giving, community resilience, and why individual actions still matter in the face of global challenges. Whether you're curious about simpler living, post-growth economics or creating a life more aligned with your values, this episode offers both inspiration and practical ideas for living well while treading more lightly on the Earth. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

Permaculture educator, designer and community development facilitator Robina McCurdy joins Voices of the New Economy to explore how communities can move beyond food security towards food resilience and food sovereignty. Drawing on more than 35 years of experience across Aotearoa New Zealand and internationally, Robina has worked with communities to develop local food systems, community gardens, food forests, seed-saving initiatives and bioregional food strategies, and established The Localising Food Project in 2012. Together, we explore why the bioregion offers a powerful scale for rethinking food systems, how urban communities can reconnect with surrounding growers and producers, and what permaculture can teach us about designing relationships and economies that work with the living world. At its heart, food resilience isn't only about producing food — it's about rebuilding community, strengthening our relationship with place and creating local economies capable of caring for people and the ecosystems that sustain us. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. Join Robina at ⁠Newkind Conference⁠ 2026: use the code NENA for 20% off registration. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

Why does so much of the technology we use seem to get worse over time? Platforms become crowded with advertising and algorithms, devices become harder to repair, and the digital services we rely on increasingly collect our data and lock us into corporate ecosystems. There’s a word for this process: enshittification. In this episode we explore surveillance capitalism, planned obsolescence, monopolies, generative AI and the right to repair, as well as practical alternatives including Free and Open Source Software, self-hosted services, repair cafés and community-run infrastructure. Veteran software engineer, internationally acclaimed speaker and open source advocate Paul Fenwick joins Voices of the New Economy to explore why technology gets worse when profit and shareholder returns are prioritised over the people who use it. Having worked with organisations including UN OCHA and Valve Software, Paul has spent decades thinking about how technology shapes society — and how society shapes technology. Join Paul at Newkind Conference 2026: use the code NENA for 20% off registration. Useful links: https://pluralistic.net/tag/enshittification/ + https://www.worseonpurpose.com/ Useful open source software alternatives: - https://joinmastodon.org/ - https://krita.org - https://jellyfin.org/ Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

What if one of the biggest barriers to a just and liveable future is not only our systems, but our collective ideas about wealth, success, and what it means to have enough? In this thought-provoking conversation, Diana Colleen explores the bold ideas behind her speculative eco-thriller, including maximum wages, billionaireism as a form of pathological hoarding, and the role of inner transformation in creating wider systems change. Together we unpack why fiction can help expand our sense of what is possible, how psychedelic-assisted therapy might open new pathways for healing and consciousness shift, and why hope is not something we wait for, but something we generate through action. This is a conversation about money, morality, imagination, and the deeper cultural stories that shape the economy we live in. Diana Colleen is a writer whose work sits at the intersection of speculative fiction, social critique, and inner transformation. With a background spanning firefighting, counselling, restaurant work, photography, and insurance, she brings a deeply human and unconventional lens to questions of wealth, inequality, and change. Her debut eco-thriller imagines a world where billionaires are pushed into psychedelic-assisted therapy in the hope of transforming not only themselves, but the systems they uphold. Through her writing, Diana invites readers to rethink what success means, question the cultural stories we tell about billionaires, and imagine more hopeful futures grounded in enoughness, healing, and collective change. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

What would it take to redesign the economy around care, reciprocity, community, and ecological wellbeing? In this conversation, Tiyana speaks with Sally from WEAll Aotearoa about the wellbeing economy movement, the alignment between wellbeing economies and Māori worldviews, and why economic transformation must be grounded in place, long-term thinking, and collective flourishing. Together, they explore the limits of GDP, the role of government and business in systems change, the promise of future generations legislation, and the practical examples already showing us that another economy is possible. Sally is a community builder and wellbeing economy advocate, currently working with WEAll Aotearoa as Knowledge and Engagement Lead. With a background in social policy research, public engagement, and systems change, Sally’s work focuses on redesigning the economy so it serves people and planet rather than endless growth. Through WEAll Aotearoa, she helps advance research, storytelling, policy advocacy, and movement-building for a wellbeing economy grounded in care, reciprocity, place, and Māori economic leadership. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

What if the crises facing humanity are not simply failures of policy or economics, but symptoms of a much deeper civilisational problem? In this conversation, Tiyana speaks with Yin Paradies about modernity, Indigenous ways of knowing, and the possibility of returning to more relational, place-based, and community-centred ways of living. Together they explore the origins of hierarchy, cities, households, and economic systems; the psychological and spiritual impacts of modernity; and what it means to reconnect with country, ancestors, kinship, and Indigenous knowledge systems in an age of ecological and social breakdown. Yin Paradies is an Indigenous scholar, educator, and researcher whose work explores decolonisation, Indigenous knowledges, racism, modernity, and relational ways of living. As Chair in Race Relations, his research spans anti-racism theory and practice, Indigenous knowledge systems, health and social inequality, and critiques of colonial institutions and structures. Drawing on Indigenous philosophies, systems thinking, and decolonial approaches, Yin’s work challenges dominant assumptions about economy, progress, hierarchy, and human society while exploring pathways toward more relational and place-based futures. Check out these resources: https://www.anamcarahomestead.com.au/resources https://events.humanitix.com/decolonial-perspectives-online-study-circle-one-july-dec-2026 Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

Anitra Nelson joins Voices of the New Economy for a powerful conversation about degrowth, ecological economics, nonmonetary futures and the New Economies for Eradicating Poverty initiative. Together, we explore why money is not a neutral tool but a central mechanism of capitalism, how communities can organise work, care and resources beyond monetary exchange, and why poverty cannot be solved through economic growth alone. Anitra also shares insights from her involvement in the NEEP initiative, which proposes a human rights economy beyond growth, grounded in democratic governance, universal basic services, care, economic democracy and ecological limits. This episode invites listeners to question some of the deepest assumptions of the current economy and imagine what it would mean to build societies where everyone’s needs are met within the limits of the Earth. Anitra Nelson is an activist scholar, writer and researcher whose work focuses on degrowth, ecological economics, postcapitalist futures and nonmonetary ways of living. Affiliated with the University of Melbourne’s Informal Urbanism Research Hub and President-Elect of the International Society for Ecological Economics (2026–2027), she has spent decades exploring alternatives to growth-dependent economic systems. Anitra is the author and editor of numerous books, including Beyond Money: A Postcapitalist Strategy and Life Without Money, and recently contributed to the United Nations-backed New Economies for Eradicating Poverty (NEEP) initiative, which is developing pathways towards a human rights economy beyond growth. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

What if the real challenge is not designing a shinier new economy, but learning when to stop? Michael Bayliss, host of the Post Growth Australia podcast, joins Voices of the New Economy to explore what it means to move beyond an economic system that depends on endless expansion on a finite planet. Drawing on years of activism across environmental, post-growth, population, and grassroots community movements, Michael reflects on the philosophical heart of post-growth thinking, why urban planning matters more than many people realise, and what he has learned from years of conversations with thinkers and organisers across the movement. The discussion also touches on intentional living, gardening, music as climate catharsis, and the tension between optimism and collapse in a time when many people can sense that business as usual is no longer viable. Michael Bayliss is an environmental activist, communicator, and host of the Post Growth Australia podcast. Over the past decade he has worked across post-growth, sustainability, and grassroots community movements, including roles with Sustainable Population Australia, urban gardening networks, intentional living projects, and local environmental organising. He is currently Deputy Convenor of the Albany Community Environment Centre and has been a guest presenter on degrowth in Curtin University’s Global Futures and Just Transformations course. Michael’s work brings together ecological limits, urban planning, community resilience, and cultural change, and he also channels environmental themes into music through his Albany-based band, Mobile Zebra. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

A head of lettuce hits $12, supermarket shelves start looking a little thinner, floods cut communities off for weeks — and suddenly “local food” stops being a lifestyle trend and starts looking like common sense. Tianda Williams joins Voices of the New Economy to explore how uForage is helping people re-localise food systems by turning surplus into shared nourishment. uForage is a community-powered food map that connects backyard growers, small producers, foragers and neighbours — making it easier to find local eggs, honey, herbs, seasonal produce, and even wild food growing in plain sight. The conversation moves from lived experience to practical systems change: why food insecurity is often a distribution problem, how community networks become lifelines during climate disruption, what foraging can teach us about abundance and place, and why the “technology that disconnected us” might also help reconnect us — if it’s built with the right values. Tianda Williams is a rural Australian advocate for sustainable, community-driven food systems and the co-founder of uForage, a grassroots platform helping people connect with local growers, backyard abundance, and foraged food. A mother and survivor of domestic violence, Tianda’s work is shaped by lived experience and a deep commitment to making sure no one goes hungry — especially as climate disruption and supply shocks make big food chains feel increasingly fragile. Through uForage, she’s helping communities re-localise food, reduce waste, and rebuild the everyday networks that make resilience possible. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

What does a “new economy” look like when it’s grounded in democracy, agency, and the limits of the living world? Audrey, co-founder of People for Nature, shares how a lifelong connection to insects and the mountains eventually led her from corporate communications and decarbonisation tech into citizen-powered climate and biodiversity work. Together we unpack why information alone doesn’t shift systems, how tools like Climate Fresk and Biodiversity Collage help people see interconnections, and what it takes to turn eco-anxiety into eco-agency. Audrey also reflects on the promises and pitfalls of technocratic solutions, the power of local stewardship (from backyard pesticide choices to koala monitoring), and why meaningful change is built through thousands of “do your part” actions that ripple outward through communities. Audrey Barucchi is the co-founder of People for Nature and a passionate advocate for climate and biodiversity literacy as the foundation for systems change. With a background spanning economics, corporate communications, and decarbonisation technology, she bridges science and storytelling to help people understand complex environmental challenges — and feel empowered to act on them. Originally from France and shaped by a lifelong love of insects and the natural world, Audrey now works to transform eco-anxiety into eco-agency, equipping communities with the tools, confidence, and connection needed to build a more regenerative, nature-aligned future. oices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]

Economics doesn’t need reinventing, Eugene argues — it needs remembering. Fresh from his tenth year at the World Economic Forum in Davos, he shares what it looks like when the world’s most powerful rooms split into two camps: those still polishing strategy on paper, and those ready to tear it up and act. The conversation moves from trillion-dollar talk to street-level reality: why modern systems can “perform exactly as designed” even when they’re failing most of us; how the doctrine of growth collides with the doctrine of significance; and what it means to build an economy that elevates individuals and communities without creating harm elsewhere. Eugene also unpacks the rise of AI and “responsibility diffusion”, offering a grounded challenge for changemakers: stay in critical-thinker mode, keep agency alive, and design for long-term service rather than short-term returns. Eugene is a strategist, storyteller and former photojournalist whose work sits at the crossroads of business, culture and systems change. After starting his career in New York newsrooms in the wake of 9/11, he moved through advertising and corporate strategy in Australia, building a behind-the-scenes view of how organisations shape behaviour, markets and narratives. For the past decade, he’s been immersed in global convenings like the World Economic Forum in Davos — this year marking his tenth time on the ground — translating “ivory tower” conversations into practical insights for founders, creatives and changemakers. He’s the author of Built to Collapse: A Tale of Unlimited Growth When Growth Costs You Everything, a business-fiction critique of the growth machine that calls us back to first principles: service, sustainability, and significance. Voices of the New Economy is a collaborative storytelling project of NENA. The podcast is produced by the Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN), an Anchor Organisation of NENA, as part of its commitment to strengthening economic literacy, amplifying community innovation, and supporting pathways to systemic change. Each episode features researchers, practitioners, organisers, and everyday changemakers working across disciplines and communities to re-imagine how our economies can serve people and planet. LISTEN & EXPLORE FURTHER A full companion article for this episode is available here. Connect with NENA: Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Humanitarian Changemakers Network (HCN): Website, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn Get involved: NENA members and friends are warmly invited to participate in the podcast — as interviewees, storytellers, or contributors to the NENA Storytelling Hub. To get involved, visit the Hub page or email: [email protected]