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Hitchhiker's Guide to AI Governance

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This podcast has
27 episodes
Language
English
Publisher
Bruce Mullan
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Date created
2026/04/01
Latest episode
2026/10/21
Average duration
34 min.
Release period
7 days

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This is the Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance, hosted by Bruce Mullan (who is mostly harmless). Don't Panic. The Hitchhiker's Guide to AI Governance is your trusty companion for navigating AI Governance in Australia. In this podcast, of course, we'll discuss life, the universe and everything related to AI Governance. Each episode, we’ll be talking with the people who are actually trying to create, govern and use AI:  - policymakers and regulators wrestling with rapidly changing technology,  - AI vendors disrupting every aspect of our lives to make things easier, - researchers and ethicists asking how to align powerful systems with human values,  - industry leaders navigating safety, competition, and responsibility, and - civil society voices making sure we don’t forget the humans in the loop. Along the way, we’ll collect insights, and maybe a few cautionary tales, from guests on the front lines of AI governance around the galaxy. To watch our podcast on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4KuI2HLCbuORspHUOMBK5g To contact us please visit: https://www.aigovernancepartners.com.au/ To follow us please visit our Linkedin company page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hitchhikers-guide-to-ai-governance So long, and thanks for all the listening.

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#16 Kevin Appleby - The AI-Enabled CFO: From Crunching Numbers to Thinking Strategically
2026/10/21
Don't panic. Finance consultant, coach and GrowCFO podcast host Kevin Appleby, explores how AI could reshape the role of the CFO and the finance function. In this podcast, Kevin talks about the compelling AI opportunity of less time crunching numbers and finding more time for a thinking space. What it means for CFOs is better analysis of the numbers, challenging assumptions, exploring alternatives and contributing to strategic decisions.   KEY TOPICS AI's impact on CFO responsibilities Challenges in finance transformation projects Best practices for AI governance in finance The evolving role of CFOs in AI adoption Using AI for financial modelling and decision-making   EPISODE NAVIGATION 02:13 The meaning of life and AI in the 2020s 07:23 Traditional challenges in finance transformation projects 14:52 How AI comes unstuck when it's trying to work with bad practice 16:03 Accountants risk losing their trusted advisor status 21:02 What does the modern CFO look like? 23:11 How will the AI-enabled CFO change the role of the CFO? 26:14 Why do CFOs feel they are behind with AI adoption? 28:26 Three levels of AI use on the Finance maturity scale 35:22 The future of AI is enabling Finance to do the "basics" well 38:15 CFOs will absolutely love how AI can save the company money 41:15 The Future of AI-enabled Accounting 43:43 What advice would you give to your younger self? 46:11 The famous quote segment    HOW TO FIND KEVIN APPLEBY   LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/kevinappleby Website - https://growcfo.net     HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Your trusty companion to navigating AI Governance in Australia and across the galaxy. Hosted by AI Governance specialist, Bruce Mullan. Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: https://hhgtaig.substack.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.     AI in finance, CFO, finance transformation, AI governance, financial modeling, automation, data quality, CFO role, AI risks, finance innovation
Bonus - AI Ageism: Who's hiring the algorithm? Unpacking the 60 Minutes Job Hunting Crisis story
2026/10/16
What if you lost your next job opportunity because a computer decided you were too old before a human had even read your CV? And what if the employer couldn't explain why? In this bonus podcast episode, Bruce Mullan is joined by career transition expert Pamela Frost. Together they explore the hidden biases, missing guardrails and new career opportunities behind automated recruitment. Most importantly, they unpack the 60 Minutes story on the job hunting crisis - what 60 Minutes DIDN'T cover and what you really need to know about AI hiring, regulation and getting a job in the AI era. The 60 Minutes Australia episode aired on October 11, 2026, and investigated how artificial intelligence and automated recruitment algorithms are creating an employment crisis for middle-aged and older workers.  Link to 60 Minutes episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA_IhG1ZFl4 KEY POINTS Rejected by a machine before a human sees your CV The governance gap nobody mentioned What happens when employers filter out the experience they actually need? Stop applying for jobs. Start solving employers' problems. AI is changing how we get work, not just how we get hired EPISODE NAVIGATION 04:13 No mention of the Privacy Act? 05:10 Highly emotive but age discrimination isn't new 10:59 What is "Botoxing" your resume? 12:11 What's the perfect role for an older person? 14:47 Why you can't just turn it on? 15:59 Why did they bring Workday HR software into it? 17:58 The new Privacy Act is designed specifically for this problem 25:19 What were the crucial things 60 Minutes missed in this story? 30:31 How can you craft your own future? 37:23 Best advice to getting a job? Maybe it's not applying to a job ad. 39:02 Get out there and break the rules! How to find Pamela Frost Linked In: linkedin.com/in/pamelamfrost Adapt and Thrive Website: https://adaptandthrive.ai/ HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Your trusty companion to navigating AI Governance in Australia and across the galaxy. Hosted by AI Governance specialist, Bruce Mullan. Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: https://hhgtaig.substack.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening. AI recruitment, age discrimination, privacy legislation, AI bias, employment law, career transition, HR technology, automated decision-making, AI governance, job search strategies, 60 minutes
#16 Preview: Kevin Appleby - The AI-Enabled CFO: From Crunching Numbers to Thinking Strategically
2026/10/14
Don't panic. In our next episode, Finance consultant, coach and GrowCFO podcast host Kevin Appleby, explores how AI could reshape the role of the CFO and the finance function. In this preview, Kevin talks about the compelling AI opportunity of less time crunching numbers and more time for finding a thinking space. What it means for CFOs is better analysis of the numbers, challenging assumptions, exploring alternatives and contributing to strategic decisions. To get notified when our latest episode drops, make sure you follow the show! AI in finance, CFO, finance transformation, AI governance, financial modeling, automation, data quality, CFO role, AI risks, finance innovation
#15 Michele Barry - AI Can Do the Admin. Can It Handle the Awkward Conversation?
2026/10/07
Don't panic. Michele Barry, a mediation expert and engagement specialist, shares her insights on early employee engagement and navigating workplace conflict that comes with AI driven change. Key topics The role of mediation in organizational conflictHow AI impacts workplace relationships and conflictStrategies for early intervention and conflict preventionThe importance of trust and communication in change managementThe evolving role of middle managers in AI-driven workplacesEthical considerations and governance in AI deploymentPractical tips for leaders to support their teams during changeThe potential and limitations of AI in mediation processes Episode Navigation 03:10 Michele's journey to Mediation expert 07:09 What is Workplace Mediation? 10:51 How does AI contribute to effective Mediation? 13:19 A case study in AI generated workplace conflict 19:51 Michele's advice to successfully navigate potential conflicts 21:55 What can be done to prevent things getting nasty? 24:15 Isolation and changing role of middle managers 29:34 How do you keep up with AI inundation? 32:31 So what are the steps towards a successful mediation? 35:58 Could AI play a role in mediation? 38:19 Not every problem needs an AI solution 42:10 Where is AI being used in the Boardroom? 43:30 What advice would you give to your younger self? 45:42 Michele's Famous Quote  How to find Michele Barry LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-barry/ Website: https://frontis.com.au/ HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Your trusty companion to navigating AI Governance in Australia and across the galaxy. Hosted by AI Governance specialist, Bruce Mullan. Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: https://hhgtaig.substack.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening. AI governance, mediation, conflict resolution, organizational change, leadership, workplace culture, AI in HR, AI ethics, stakeholder engagement, change management
#15 Preview: Michele Barry - AI Can Do the Admin. Can It Handle the Awkward Conversation?
2026/09/30
Don't panic. In our next episode, Michele Barry, a mediation expert and engagement specialist, shares her insights on early employee engagement and navigating workplace conflict that comes with AI driven change. In this preview, Michele reflects on how people can respond when they fear AI or organisational change might threaten their jobs. When fear sets in, leaders need to offer more than reassurance. They need to create the trust and space for honest conversations about what comes next.   To get notified when our latest episode drops, make sure you follow the show! AI governance, mediation, conflict resolution, organizational change, leadership, workplace culture, AI in HR, AI ethics, stakeholder engagement, change management
#14 Sarah Barnbrook - Navigating AI ethics: When unsafe technology and human experience collide
2026/09/23
Don't panic. Sarah Barnbrook, a socio technologist and CEO of Xallarap, discusses the critical issues surrounding AI ethics, and safety. She shares insights on AI risks, discusses tragic cases in unsafe technology use, the importance of proactive regulation, and her innovative assessment tool, ALT-TAB, to help organizations navigate AI deployment responsibly. Sarah is CEO and Founder of Xallarap -  an AI implementation and ethics consultancy helping organisations understand what they actually need from technology, what solutions already exist, and how to implement it safely and effectively.   Sarah also created Alt-TAB a free-to-use pre-deployment AI ethics assessment tool used by organisations globally. EPISODE NAVIGATION 04:56 Reflections on September 11 07:56 When things are never the same again 12:18 Big Tech's Accountability in Social Media 15:34 The Chemisphere and Human Connection 20:58 Darker Aspects of Technology (Content Warning) 21:58 The Dangers of Emotional Manipulation in Technology 25:52 The Influence of Algorithms on Social Behavior 30:54 Government Control and Technology's Ethical Use 35:04 Guidance for Parents on AI and Technology 36:29 Guidance for Adults using AI 37:36 Advice for Governments Regulating AI 38:56 ALT-TAB Ethical Assessment Tool for Tech Development 50:46 A Quote on Perseverance KEY TOPICS The importance of safety assessments in AI deployment Risks of AI in society including harm, bias, and misuse The need for global cooperation and local regulation in AI governance The impact of AI on vulnerable populations and digital safety The concept of the chemisphere and face-to-face human connection The potential for AI to incite violence and societal harm The importance of ethical design and responsible innovation Strategies for parents, adults, organizations, and governments to manage AI risks CONNECTING WITH SARAH BARNBROOK   LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-barnbrook-263323151   Website: https://xallarap.ai/   Email: [email protected]   See Sarah at Cybercon (14-16 October 2026) https://melbourne2026.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/sarah-barnbrook-r4am8 Keywords: AI ethics, AI governance, safety assessment, socio technologist, AltTab, AI risks, digital safety, AI regulation, responsible AI, AI tools HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Hosted by AI Governance specialist, Bruce Mullan. Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: https://hhgtaig.substack.com/   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.
Bonus: Masterclass - Trust Your Guardrails: How AI Governance Enables AI to Scale
2026/09/17
Don't panic. What happens when an organisation spends millions switching on Microsoft Copilot for 9,000 employees without first asking what problem it is solving, what data Copilot can access, how people will use it, or what success looks like? This episode explores a real-world Copilot deployment that demonstrates how quickly an AI initiative can turn from a productivity opportunity into a privacy, cultural and governance problem. Bruce uses the case study to unpack the three levels of AI use: administration, business-process automation and decision-making, and explains why the risks increase as organisations move from supporting humans to allowing AI to influence or make decisions. More importantly, this episode challenges the traditional idea of governance as the Department of “no”. Bruce explains how the Australian AI Governance Standard can instead be used as a practical system for deploying AI safely, confidently and at scale. From validating data and testing for unintended consequences to building workforce capability, monitoring outcomes and establishing feedback loops, the message is simple: governance should be a service, not a blocker. If organisations can trust their own guardrails, they can move faster, capture more value from AI and expand its use with greater confidence. Episode Navigation 00:05 AI Governance Standards and Their Importance 01:53 Case Study: Failed Microsoft Copilot Deployment 07:33 A simple framework for how AI is being used right now 15:06 Australia's AI Governance Standard 18:17 Governance as a performance system, not compliance in isolation 22:32 Applying good governance to a Copilot deployment 30:56 Lessons Learned: What should have happened. 33:43 Governance is the reason to scale AI, not slow it down Key Takeaways on AI Deployment Investing Wisely: Organizations must evaluate the true cost versus benefits of AI tools, ensuring that there is a solid business case for their implementation.Governance is Crucial: Governance should be integrated early in the deployment process to build trust and enable scaling of AI applications effectively.Understanding AI Levels: Bruce outlined three levels of AI use in organizations: administrative tasks, process workflows, and decision-making. Each level requires different levels of scrutiny and governance to manage risks effectively.Real-World Impact: Bruce shared a success story where AI automation significantly improved invoice processing times, showcasing the potential benefits when governance is properly applied. HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: Newsletter   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.
#14 Preview - Sarah Barnbrook on the Chemisphere: Why We Need People, Not Just AI Platforms
2026/09/17
Don't panic. Next week's episode is all about ethical AI with socio-technologist Sarah Barnbrook. In this clip, the conversation touched on the human implications of AI. In an increasingly digital world, Sarah argues that we’re losing something fundamental: the chemistry of face-to-face human connection. She describes the “chemisphere” as the human-to-human interaction and chemical response that happens when we meet, talk, laugh, share good or bad news, and experience genuine belonging. When that connection is missing, people may seek belonging online, where algorithms can shape what they see, believe and feel, sometimes feeding them increasingly extreme or misleading content. Her message is clear: digital connection can’t fully replace human connection, so we should deliberately create more opportunities to be together face-to-face. To get the latest episodes, make sure you follow the show! Email us at [email protected] AI ethics, AI governance, safety assessment, socio technologist, AltTab, AI risks, digital safety, AI regulation, responsible AI, AI tools
#13 Keturah Charlesworth - Unmasking Shadow AI: A Conversation on Its Hidden Influence
2026/09/10
Don't Panic! Today's episode is all about AI and privacy with Keturah Charlesworth, Privacy expert. AI has emerged as a modern-day enigma. As we navigate through its complexities, a striking observation was made: many people are caught between denial and action regarding their use of AI. In this episode, Ketchura Charlesworth shares insights on AI governance, privacy laws, shadow AI, and how organisations can navigate the complex landscape of AI use in health and human services. Topics Shadow AI and organizational riskPrivacy laws and AI compliance in healthcareStrategies for AI governance and securityThe impact of AI on health and human servicesAdmitting and managing AI-related pain and vulnerabilities  Takeaways Shadow AI is used without organizational awareness, posing significant risks.Organizations must understand and comply with Australian Privacy Principles when using AI.Building trust and involving stakeholders is key to effective AI governance.AI can fill skill gaps but also introduces privacy and security vulnerabilities.Proactive AI governance is essential to prevent future data breaches and legal issues. Episode Navigation 03:14 About Keturah Charlesworth 11:09 The Challenges of Shadow AI 20:50 The Dilemma of Admitting to using Shadow AI 29:21 Privacy Concerns with AI Usage 32:19 The Coming AI Data Breach Tsunami 34:36 AI in Health and Human Services 36:30 The Need for AI Governance Right Now 42:13 Navigating Privacy Laws and AI 47:58 The Future of AI Regulation 51:04 Tailoring AI Solutions to Organisational Needs 54:50 The Importance of Human Oversight in AI 01:00:35 Quote of the Day How to reach Keturah Charlesworth Website: www.qualityhq.com.au LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keturah-charlesworth/ HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: Newsletter   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.
#13 Preview - Just like CrowdStrike and Ozempic: What we don’t know about AI can hurt us
2026/09/02
Don't Panic! Next week's episode is all about AI and privacy with Keturah Charlesworth, Privacy expert. In this clip our conversation touched on the broader implications of AI. An analogy was made to CrowdStrike, a vendor that faced a catastrophic software upgrade, bringing down 8.5 million Microsoft computers world-wide due to unforeseen vulnerabilities. Keturah likens AI to Ozempic, the miracle drug. We all excitedly got onboard, until people started to go blind. Both incidents serve as a reminder of the hidden risks associated with AI and what we don’t know can indeed hurt us. To get the latest episodes, make sure you follow the show! Email us at [email protected]
#9 Part 2 Phyllis Elin - Bringing Information Governance into the AI era
2026/08/26
Don’t panic. In this episode, due to popular demand, Phyllis Elin returns to the pod to continue our conversation about AI and information governance. Phyllis Elin shares her extensive expertise in information governance, the impact of AI on data management, and the importance of clean, well-structured data for effective AI deployment. She discusses her recent awards, her insights on records retention, and the challenges and opportunities AI presents in data security and management. Key Topics: Phyllis Elin's awards and recognition in information governanceThe importance of records retention schedules for AIChallenges of unstructured data in AI applicationsData cleaning and destruction for AI readinessSecurity and confidentiality in AI data accessDeveloping effective records retention policiesImpact of AI on traditional data management practicesThe role of microfilm and physical records in digital ageEthical considerations in AI and data governanceFuture trends in AI governance and regulation Episode navigation: 06:34 Records retention schedule as the foundation of data management 09:46 Why clean data is critical for AI accuracy 12:11 Why securing sensitive data is critical for denying AI access 17:04 How messy data in Sharepoint undoes AI accuracy 18:53 Legal risks of retaining outdated or unnecessary records 25:11 Changes in how documents and records are stored 28:23 AI scanning technologies to interpret paper records 30:20 The irony of using old books to train AI models 38:18 Phyllis reflecting on tough times Where's Phyllis? You can find her here: Linked In: linkedin.com/in/phylliselin Website: knowledgepreservation.com HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: Newsletter   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.
Bonus: AI Didn't Wait for IT. Neither Did I. That's why I created AI Governance Partners.
2026/08/20
Don't panic. In this bonus episode, I reflect on my journey of over 30 years in IT, where I have witnessed firsthand the transformative power of technology in businesses. Traditional technology implementations followed a structured process, but the emergence of AI has changed the game. Unlike everything before it, AI tools like ChatGPT can be accessed and used directly by employees without waiting for formal approval or oversight from IT. Looking ahead, I envision a future where AI frees employees from repetitive and mundane tasks, allowing them to focus on high-value decision-making. This shift not only enhances productivity but also empowers employees to bring their critical judgment to the table. If the organisations I work with can identify where AI is being used, understand what could go wrong, have sensible guardrails in place, and give their people the confidence to use AI well, then that's what success looks like for me. HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   Join us. Subscribe to our newsletter for the latest news, articles, events and podcasts about all things AI: Subscribe   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.
#12 Derek Crager - Human First AI: How to Win with AI Without Losing What Makes Us Human
2026/08/13
Don’t panic. In this episode, I picked up Derek Crager.   Derek is a visionary AI Solutions Architect & founder of Practical AI. And he's also a Hoosier (someone from Indiana US). His insights provide a refreshing perspective on how AI can complement human capabilities rather than replace them. Derek emphasizes the importance of a human-first approach to AI. He believes that AI should enhance the workforce rather than jeopardise jobs. "Let's use AI to support the workers that are already here. They're the ones that made the companies great already," he explains. This sentiment resonates in a time when many fear the displacement of jobs due to technology. Derek's perspective on AI serves as a valuable reminder that technology, when integrated thoughtfully, can enhance our capabilities rather than diminish them. As we navigate this evolving landscape, embracing a human-centric approach will be key to unlocking the full potential of AI. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand the intersection of technology, ethics, and human experience. For a deeper exploration of these insights, check out the full episode. Episode navigation: 02:25 Introduction to Derek Crager 07:26 Working at Amazon.com 08:17 Derek 's super power 09:23 Derek's perspective on how AI is unfolding across the US 10:22 Where will AI settle as a normal part of our jobs? 17:55 What is the best way to avoid being displaced by AI? 28:56 What do you see in your crystal ball in 5 years? 35:52 How companies are having AI use forced upon them. 42:57 What is the Pocket Mentor AI device? 56:56 Nostalgic Nerds podcast discussion 01:00:29 Derek's famous quote 01:02:35 How to reach Derek QUOTE: It is advisable that a person know at least three things: Where they areWhere they are goingAnd, what they had best do under the circumstances by John Ruskin a leading English art critic, social thinker, and polymath of the Victorian era. LINKS TO DEREK'S WORK & CONTACT INFO Web: https://www.practicalai.app New Book: https://www.humanfirstai.net (Free Chapter) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amazonleadership/ HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO AI GOVERNANCE   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  Contact us: [email protected] Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   Subscribe to our newsletter: Subscribe   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.
#11 Ambrion AI - You can't put AI in jail. The EU AI Act activations from August 2 2026.
2026/07/31
Don't panic. On August 2, 2026, the EU AI Act activates core transparency duties under Article 50, grants the European AI Office broad enforcement powers over general-purpose models, and adjusts previous high-risk compliance timelines. In this episode, I picked up John Webb-O'Rourke and Shane McCarthy from Ambrion AI, an Irish intelligence company purpose built for the AI era.  John is a recovering lawyer and the Ambrion AI Managing Partner. Shane is a serial builder of AI-native companies and a part founder of Ambrion AI.   Sound familiar? John and Shane joined me in Episode 2. Check that one out too because it's our most downloaded episode in 2026.   John and Shane return to the pod to share their insights on the EU AI Act activations commencing on August 2, 2026. Episode navigation:   02:17 The introduction of the EU AI Act on 2 August 03:10 How seriously are these Regulations being taken? 04:07 How has regulation driven adoption of AI governance? 10:01 Will fines drive meaningful AI governance adoption? 14:55 What are the conditions for a Regulator to take action? 20:09 What are the consequences for a significant AI failure? 27:07 What changes are you seeing at a country level? 34:19 What is the Irish government doing about AI governance? 41:39 What will happen between now and Christmas 2026? 46:36 How should companies be managing their AI risk? 50:37 Shane on failing again, just failing better. 53:16 John on how difficulties strengthen the mind   Shane's quote: "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." from Samuel Beckett   John's quote: "Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labour does the body." from Seneca    Learn more about John and Shane John Webb-O'Rourke on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/john-webb-o-rourke-219b4315 Shane McCarthy on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/shanemcsocial Ambrion AI website:  https://ambrion.ai/ Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  Check out our articles on Substack: https://hhgtaig.substack.com/   Visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   Visit our publications and subscribe to our newsletter: https://hhgtaig.substack.com/   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.
Bonus: Masterclass - How to get ahead of the AI regulation compliance curve with good AI governance.
2026/07/24
Don't panic. This week I share what good AI governance looks like in Australia.To watch this episode as a video visit: https://youtu.be/ygSaj2_yWVg?si=4FXRLMMZqbeYd5DG Episode Navigation 0:00 When AI goes wrong, it goes badly wrong 2:10 Why our Regulators are twitchy 4:43 Examples of AI systems and use cases 6:07 Biggest challenge when deploying AI systems 7:36 Why do we need an AI Governance Standard? 8:52 The new Australian AI Governance Standard 15:38 Where Copilot deployments go wrong 17:25 Quick AI Governance wins 18:12 AI risk exposure will grow 19:33 What does good AI governance look like? ABOUT THIS BONUS EPISODE The Microsoft Copilot mistakeAn ASX listed company excitedly deployed Microsoft Copilot across 9,000 staff. Unfortunately, Copilot AI was given unrestricted access to employee data. Once it was live, staff could ask it for salary information on any person in the company. As a dutiful AI assistant, it gladly obliged. 👌 Anyone's salary was available for instant inspection. Oops. Then came the kill switch, damage control and incident comms. An expensive mistake. Could this AI mistake happen in your company? The consequences of AI mistakes like this are hugePrivacy breaches and OAIC notificationsLegal exposure and compensation to staffWorkplace distrustEndless remediation meetingsOngoing employee retention issues Overlooking Copilot AI data access controls is simply the canary in the coal-mine. A prescient warning that companies now require strengthened AI governance as the capabilities of advanced AI far outpace its ability to keep up ... and the Regulators are coming. Regulation is coming for ungoverned AIFive authoritative Australian bodies* have now issued AI risk warnings aimed at boards and leadership teams across Australia. * OAIC, APRA, ASIC, ASD and Five Eyes. Office of the Australian Information CommissionerRegulation of AI lands on December 10. Companies that use AI to make or substantially assist in making decisions about individuals (affecting rights, interests, or wellbeing) to disclose this in their privacy policies. Learn what good AI Governance looks likeI share you how to get started and turn the AI Governance Standard from a compliance tick-off into practical, operational capabilities. Understand why the Australia's AI Governance Standard exists, who can use it and how you can stay ahead of the compliance curveBecome familiar with the 42 AI technical statements mapped against some real-world AI governance failuresLearn about the most impactful AI governance statements Learn how to transform AI governance standards into practical, operational capabilities. Hitchhiker’s Guide to AI Governance   Hosted by AI Governance partner, Bruce Mullan, who helps companies confidently adopt the 42 Statements of the Australian AI governance standard.  Check out our articles on Substack: https://hhgtaig.substack.com/ To learn more, visit our website: www.aigovernancepartners.com.au   If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to give us a rating, leave a comment and follow us for more episodes. So long and thanks for all the listening.

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