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2026/04/07
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2026/10/24
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This podcast is for school leaders who are ready to level up and scale their school improvement journey.
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S2 E8 - How to Prepare Your Team for Screen-Free Teaching
2026/10/24
In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, Jocelyn discusses several Australian education departments announcing limits on classroom device use, and how for many schools this will mean a significant shift in how teaching and learning happen. Jocelyn explores what school leaders can do now to prepare their teams for screen-free learning.
Jocelyn separates the issue of student devices from the screen at the front of the room, then unpacks what the change will mean in practice: more preparation, more paper, new routines for students and added cognitive load for teachers. She shares practical, solution-focused strategies.
If your system now requires screen limits, the change itself isn’t optional, but how it happens can be. This episode offers a starting point for leadership and whole-staff conversations that build teacher capability, voice and engagement.
Get ready for 2027! Explore our expert-led professional learning and development options in literacy strategy and explicit teaching. Visit our website to discover programs tailored for your school, from 12-month partnerships and action-focused teach-along courses to leader programs that promote real classroom impact. Partner with us to empower your team and make lasting changes that connect to everyday teaching.
Boost your students' success. Visit jocelyncemaeducation.com
S2 E7 - What Are We Getting Wrong About Professional Development?
2026/10/17
How many of the dollars and hours spent on professional learning this year actually changed what happens in classrooms?
As schools refresh strategic plans and set budgets for 2027, this episode makes the case for choosing less, treating school improvement as an infinite game, and swapping the “cut flowers” of a pupil-free day for the slow, steady watering that makes learning stick.
Get ready for 2027! Explore our expert-led professional learning and development options in literacy strategy and explicit teaching. Visit our website to discover programs tailored for your school, from 12-month partnerships and action-focused teach-along courses to leader programs that promote real classroom impact. Partner with us to empower your team and make lasting changes that connect to everyday teaching.
Boost your students' success. Visit jocelyncemaeducation.com
S2 E6 - What to Do After You Get Your Phonics Screening Check Results
2026/09/26
When your phonics screening check results make your stomach drop, what do you actually do next?
In this return episode of the Structured Literacy Podcast, Jocelyn treats the check like a blood pressure reading: it tells you whether to look closer, and the score sheets tell you where. She explains how to tell students who know the code but stumbled on the format (special hint: alien names) from those with real gaps, and why accent is never an error. She also covers why whole-class phonics and rigid pacing guides may be quietly holding students back. You'll leave with a practical, step-by-step plan for the weeks after the check, and a reminder that the data is feedback, not a verdict on you as a teacher.
S2 E5 - Why Do Our Good Coaching Questions Fall Flat?
2026/09/19
"Ask more questions, tell less" is coaching gospel - but what if it's setting your least experienced teachers up to fail?
In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, Jocelyn challenges the one-size-fits-all approach to instructional coaching, arguing that asking someone to generate their own solutions only works if they already have the experience to recognise a good one. Using the Responsive Leadership Model and two real classroom examples, Jocelyn shows how the same coaching conversation can play out completely differently depending on where a teacher sits in their development, and offers one simple question leaders can ask themselves before their next coaching conversation to get it right.
S2 E4 - Why Isn't Our Instructional Model Transferring Across the Curriculum?
2026/09/12
Ever wonder why a teacher can run a flawless, tightly-structured literacy block in the morning, then deliver a chaotic, worksheet-heavy science lesson by the afternoon? In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, Jocelyn unpacks the real reason strong instructional practice so often fails to transfer across the curriculum - and it's not inconsistency or a lack of care. Drawing on the difference between tacit, explicit, and theoretical knowledge, Jocelyn explains why "doing the PL" isn't enough, and offers two simple questions school leaders can use to help teachers turn what they already know how to do into knowledge they can talk about, share, and apply anywhere.
S2 E3 - How to Make Your Explicit Teaching Journey Actually Pay Off
2026/09/05
Every school is drowning in a checklist of "evidence-based" boxes to tick (phonics programs, screeners, daily review, engagement norms) and still seeing no movement in student outcomes. Why?
In this episode, Jocelyn unpacks the gap between doing the tasks and achieving the outcome, and why systems end up rewarding the countable stuff (a program exists, a norm is displayed) instead of the thing that actually matters: whether students are learning.
She breaks down three cognitive principles every classroom decision should be tested against, and shows how a small shift in the questions leaders ask can move teachers from compliance to genuine understanding.
If your team is working harder than ever and still not seeing the results, this episode explains why - and what to focus on instead.
S2 E2 - How to Survive System Mandates
2026/08/29
Systems are pushing hard on explicit teaching and the science of reading - but a directive can change what a school looks like without ever touching what happens once the classroom door closes.
In this episode, Jocelyn unpacks the real cost of leading change through compliance and tone alone, and what it actually takes to build teacher capability that lasts. If you've ever felt the tension between what the system demands and what your best teachers already know, this one's for you.
S2 E1 - Why Can't Teachers Let Go of Worksheets?
2026/08/22
This is the season two premiere of the Leading Learning Podcast, hosted by Jocelyn Seamer. The episode opens with a real classroom story: a teacher, new to implementing a spelling program, quietly turned a discussion-based lesson segment into a written worksheet, spending unpaid personal time to do so.
Jocelyn uses this as a springboard to explore why capable, well-intentioned teachers reach for familiar routines (like worksheets) when facing new pedagogy, drawing on her responsive instructional leadership model: four phases of skill development. She argues this behaviour isn't laziness or resistance but a natural response to an experience gap, where unfamiliar practices feel effortful and uncertain, so teachers recreate the "shape" of what they already know.
The episode offers practical leadership guidance, including a "what's the same, what's gone, what looks familiar but does a different job" framework for introducing new programs, and reframes worksheet-making as diagnostic information about a teacher's developmental stage rather than a problem to criticise. Jocelyn closes with a note that the same dynamic applies to over-reliance on PowerPoint slides.
S1 E10 - What Does the Research Actually Say About Grouping Students for Phonics?
2026/07/25
In this episode, Jocelyn looks back at an episode from her other show, the Structured Literacy Podcast.
We challenge the assumption that whole-class phonics with a little extra is the most effective route and explore why targeted Tier 1 grouping often delivers stronger gains. Using cognitive load theory and intervention research, we show how matched content can raise progress without creating waitlists or missed learning elsewhere.
• why many Year 3 students still need foundational code
• what grouping studies actually tested and why that matters
• how targeted, explicit, code-focused teaching drives gains
• early, intensive support over waiting for intervention
• designing Tier 1 to include intervention features
• cognitive load as a lens for matching content
• when to keep whole-class and when to regroup
• practical next steps for data, grouping, and progress checks
S1 E9 - The Real Cost of Creating Our Own Programs
2026/07/18
In this episode, Jocelyn unpacks a question school leaders increasingly face: should we build our own curriculum program instead of buying one?
Using the distinction between price and cost, Jocelyn shows how "free" homegrown programs often carry hidden costs: lost coaching time, leader burnout, and knowledge that vanishes when the person who built it leaves.
Drawing on a real coaching example, Jocelyn argues that no program, bought or built, replaces the core work of growing teachers' skill in reading the room and responding to students. The episode closes with a practical framework - tweak, rewrite, or replace - for deciding when an existing program truly needs to change.
S1 E8 - The Instructional Principle That Can Change Everything
2026/06/20
In this episode, Jocelyn tackles one important question: Do your students have the prerequisite knowledge for this learning? The spread of answers reveals whether a school is focused on delivering content or ensuring students actually learn.
Key points include:
Introducing content does not equal learning it.Overload drives behaviour issues.Reframing the teacher's role, from "deliverer of content" to "engineer of student success."Listening, not blaming.
S1 E7 - We've Done the PL, but Our Team Can't Get Started
2026/06/13
In this episode, Jocelyn explores why new teaching practices often fail to take hold after professional learning sessions, and how giving teachers one clear, concrete starting point - rather than open-ended freedom - better supports beginners in building consistent, effective habits.
S1 E6 - Data, Data Everywhere: But Learning Still Won't Stick
2026/06/06
In this episode, Jocelyn explores how to close the gap between assessment data and classroom instruction. She argues that diagnostic and formative assessment need to be built directly into school-wide systems, not treated as separate from planning, and offers three practical questions and simple tools to help leaders and teachers make data actually drive what happens in classrooms.
S1 E5 - The Real Work Begins Where the Program Runs Out
2026/05/30
Jocelyn reflects on what happens when a well-built instructional program stops providing answers, and what leadership teams must do next. This episode explores the difference between building a minimum viable system and the deeper, more demanding work of continuous improvement, offering practical frameworks for diagnosing why a subset of students isn't progressing and how to design targeted responses grounded in evidence rather than chasing new programs.
S1 E4 - Why Teachers 'Go Rogue'
2026/05/23
In this episode, Jocelyn explores why instructional initiatives lose consistency during implementation, and offers a practical five-step framework to reset and strengthen practice across a school.
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