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Joe Carlsmith is a philosopher and writer at Anthropic whose concept of “deep atheism” has changed how I think about religion. In this conversation we explore what it means to trust or distrust the universe, why death brings life into focus, and why it can be hard to be sincere. We discuss Teilhard de Chardin, the problem of evil, Elinor Ostrom, Nick Land, and end on grace as a model for how a whole system can work together. Links: Joe on deep atheism, part of a series on otherness and control in the age of AGI, and on death, sincerity, and “fake thinking” and “real thinking”. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.goodconversationproject.com