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What if the thing standing between you and real change isn't a lack of effort, but the fear that God is still keeping score? On this episode Drew sits down with Steve Brown, founder of Key Life Network, longtime seminary professor, and author of his latest book, God's Not Mad at You. Steve has spent decades telling tired, guilt-ridden Christians the news most of us have a hard time believing: God isn't angry with his children, and he isn't waiting for us to get our act together. We talk about why trying harder so often makes us worse, how sin management became a substitute for the gospel, and why freedom, not fear, is what actually makes people more like Jesus. Steve is honest, funny, and refreshingly unimpressed with religious performance. If you've ever wondered whether God is disappointed in you, this conversation is for you. Find the book here and visit Keylife.org to learn/read more from Steve.

Most of us carry the Law and the Gospel around in the same pocket, mixed together until we can't tell which one is speaking. So we hear "be good" when God is actually saying "you are loved," and we hear grace as one more assignment we're failing to finish. In this episode, I sit down with theologian, priest, and author Justin Holcomb to untangle these two words of God and why getting the distinction right (or wrong) shapes everything about how we relate to Him. Justin has spent decades teaching on grace, abuse and healing, and the historic Christian faith, and he brings both scholarly depth and pastoral gentleness to a conversation that could genuinely change how you hear a sermon, read your Bible, or talk to yourself on a hard day. We talk about what the Law is actually for, why the Gospel offers no commands at all, and the quiet, often overlooked role of the Holy Spirit in making obedience possible instead of just demanded. If you've ever felt like your faith was more performance than rest, this one's for you.

On this episode of Still Becoming we sit down with Sophia Holcomb to talk about grief through the unique lens of C.S Lewis. Sophia is a high school student at The Geneva School, where she is currently studying classics. She was a William George Shuster Grant recipient and has conducted research at the Marion E. Wade Center at Wheaton College. She has appeared on the White Horse Inn podcast to discuss C. S. Lewis and has written for various publications, including Modern Reformation. Read more from Sophia on her Substack: https://substack.com/@sophia490231

On this episode of Still Becoming Ryan and Drew have a candid conversation around ambition; the good, the bad, and the ugly. They reflect on personal experience and building the Kingdom verses building your own empire and where grace meets us in all of it.  Catch up with Drew: www.drewhensley.com & on Instagram @drewchensley Visit KeyLife: www.keylife.org

This week on Still Becoming, Ryan and Drew sit down with pastor and author A.J. Sherrill for an honest conversation about deconstruction, reconstruction, and what it looks like to hold onto faith in a world full of disappointment, doubt, and disillusionment. Together, Ryan, Drew, and AJ explore their own experiences pastoring at Mars Hill in Seattle and AJ's time leading post Rob Bell at Mars Hill Church in Michigan.  During this conversation we unpack why so many people are rethinking what they believe, the difference between tearing faith down and rebuilding it well, and how Jesus meets us in the middle of all of it. Honest, thoughtful, and deeply hopeful. Connect with AJ: ajsherrill.org Connect with Drew: drewhensley.com

In this episode of Still Becoming, Ryan and Drew sit down with author, therapist, and professor Chuck DeGroat for an honest conversation about narcissism, character, and the confusion that often surrounds both. Chuck helps bring clarity to a word that gets thrown around too easily, while also inviting us to look beneath the surface at who we’re actually becoming. Drawing from his upcoming book, Who You're Becoming, this conversation moves beyond labels and into the deeper work of formation—where grace meets truth and real change begins. Catch up with Chuck at www.chuckdegroat.net

What if sexual addiction isn’t just about behavior—but about what’s underneath it? On this episode of Still Becoming, Drew and Ryan have a conversation with Carl Thomas, CEO of Live Free Ministries and xxxchurch and explore why trying harder isn’t enough and what real, lasting change actually looks like. Visit: XXXChurch.com Visit: X3 Pure Rewired Workshop

Faith isn’t something any of us have perfected. In this first episode, Drew and Ryan talk honestly about doubt, tension, and the pressure to pretend we have it all together—and why being secure in God’s love frees us to actually be honest about where we are. They share their own stories about living in between doubt and faith and offer honest encouragement along the way.